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Film news - Chloé Zhao’s directorial debut Songs My Brothers Taught Me on Mubi. Find out more at UK Film Review. Chloé Zhao’s directorial debut Songs My Brothers Taught Me on Mubi Chris Olson Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:21:58 PM UTC EXCLUSIVELY ON MUBI FROM 9 APRIL 2021 DIRECTED BY CHLOÉ ZHAO MUBI , the global distributor and curated film streaming service has announced that Chloé Zhao’s (dir. Nomadland) directorial debut Songs My Brothers Taught Me will be available exclusively on MUBI from 9 April 2021. Written and directed by Chloé Zhao, Songs My Brothers Taught Me is a touching and tragic coming of age story set against the stark beauty of South Dakota’s Pine Ridge Reservation. The film focuses on teenage Johnny and his younger sister Jashaun, two Lakota Sioux siblings whose bond is tested after the sudden death of their absent cowboy father. With an older brother in jail and living with their distant single mother, the pair spend their days navigating the harsh terrain of their small town where opportunity is scarce and poverty, alcoholism and violence is rife. When the chance of a new life in Los Angeles arises, Johnny is faced with the difficult choice of leaving Jashaun behind forever. Juxtaposing the despair her characters face with a breathtakingly lyrical aesthetic that recalls the work of Terrence Malick, Zhao’s first film is a wistful and delicately observed portrayal of a marginalised community that subtly captures the everyday lives of an underrepresented social milieu. As empathetic as it is naturalistic, it marks the auspicious introduction of a distinctive and undeniable cinematic voice. Songs My Brothers Taught Me premiered at Sundance Film Festival to critical acclaim, before screening at the Cannes Film Festival where Chloé Zhao received a nomination for the Caméra d'Or Award for Best First Feature Film. Zhao recently won Best Director at the 78th annual Golden Globe® Awards and the Critics Choice Awards for Nomadland, which has received numerous nominations and awards worldwide to date. Nomadland also received seven BAFTA Film Award nominations including Best Film and Best Director this week. Whilst living in New York, Chloé Zhao read about the high suicide rate at Pine Ridge and began making trips there and meeting local people. Zhao described Songs My Brothers Taught Me as a contemplation of the time she spent on the Pine Ridge Reservation, during the four years of making the film. Casting young Lakota actors, many of whom were making their film debuts, Zhao presents a compelling and complex portrait of modern life on the Pine Ridge Reservation whilst exploring the strong bond between a brother (John Reddy) and his younger sister (Jashaun St. John). 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Read the film podcast transcript from the episode titled F1 - Jurassic World Rebirth - Superman - UK Film Club Ep 29 on UK Film Club part of the UK Film Review Podcast. < Back F1 - Jurassic World Rebirth - Superman - UK Film Club Ep 29 Listen to This Episode UK Film Club 00:00:00.00 Chris Olson on a bit earlier no ive it's the summer holidays I think the yeah the kids are tired they think well let's go to bed and I'm like okay fine go for it yeah finally it's cooling down a little bit though finally 00:00:00.98 Brian Penn That's alright, you caught me unawares there, wasn't ready for that. We're not in a way this early. Very... 00:00:08.56 Brian Penn Ah, right. 00:00:11.58 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:00:14.16 Brian Penn Yeah, see the hot weather's worn them out bit, hasn't it, eh? Well, it's just as well we don't live in Turkey, isn't it? I mean, I heard they recorded a temperature of 50 Celsius. 50 Celsius. 00:00:26.54 Brian Penn fifty sosers 00:00:26.75 Chris Olson it's just too much that's just too much 00:00:29.26 Brian Penn That's about 123 Fahrenheit. That is crazy, isn't it? 00:00:32.86 Chris Olson yeah 00:00:34.58 Brian Penn Makes you glad we're living in such a damp, usually damp, mild climate, doesn't it, eh? 00:00:39.93 Chris Olson It does. It puts us all in a bad mood, but we're not hot. 00:00:42.73 Brian Penn um no Yeah, I know. We're not wired that way. We're not wired for those sort of temperatures. um You know, i'm nice sunny weather, warm weather, her fine. Bit of a breeze. You know, that's all right. The only the only weather extremes of weather I really dislike, though, is snow. Snow's the worst. 00:00:59.96 Chris Olson Yeah, snow's one of those things that I'm I love it in theory. And then when I see it, I get very quickly of awed by It's oh, wow, that's amazing. But then by day two, you're like, I'm done with this. 00:01:11.37 Chris Olson Please get rid of it. 00:01:11.64 Brian Penn and I know. 00:01:12.41 Chris Olson Don't leave it around here with this slushy mess getting in the way. 00:01:13.42 Brian Penn Yeah. know. Visually, it's lovely. It's lovely to look at but you try going out in it, then if it freezes open, and it gets icy. So I don't think we like extremes of weather, theyre do we, in Britain? Because we don't normally get it. 00:01:28.02 Brian Penn But, you know, ah you got money if you want to paralyze this country, just lob a snowball at us. That works better than anything, really. 00:01:34.12 Chris Olson But then if you've ah if you took away the weather, we'd have nothing to talk about. 00:01:38.10 Brian Penn I know, exactly. 00:01:38.36 Chris Olson Be honest. like We talk about movies all day long, but the weather really is what connects everyone. 00:01:39.76 Brian Penn Yeah. I know. know. I know. It's a staple part of our conversation, isn't it? You know, people live in California never talk about the weather because it doesn't change out there. 00:01:52.00 Brian Penn You know, but we we it's an art form to us, isn't it? Because it's so changeable. 00:01:57.90 Chris Olson you know That's not really been done, has it? like We get lots of films about the... 00:02:00.21 Brian Penn What's that? 00:02:02.31 Chris Olson um crazy weather or like extremes, you know like flooding or hurricanes and that sort of stuff. 00:02:04.57 Brian Penn Hmm. 00:02:07.18 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:02:08.82 Chris Olson But like, just have a film about the monotony of the British weather. Like just, and it's just that how it drives people mad and it's like, you know surrounds everyone's conversations. 00:02:17.26 Brian Penn Yeah. well 00:02:19.44 Chris Olson like I feel like that could be a good film. 00:02:21.39 Brian Penn yeah Well, you know what would make a very good film? There is a play called Pressure, and it's about the the build-ups of the D-Day landings and the meteorologists that were arguing amongst themselves about the best time to go. 00:02:29.49 Chris Olson right. 00:02:33.65 Brian Penn right And I've seen the play on stage. It would make a brilliant film. Excellent film, because you've got the British meteorologist who understands British weather conditions, and the american East American counterparts He said, well, what's the problem? Let's go tomorrow or go the day after. And the British meteorologist is saying, you don't understand, do You've never sat on a British beach in your entire life. But it could be sunny one minute, then it could be driving rain and hailstones the next. 00:02:59.55 Brian Penn So I think we have a great film that are waiting to be made, David. David, Chris, Jack, f Fred. 00:03:03.78 Chris Olson Wait to be made the British weather. 00:03:06.36 Brian Penn Sorry, it's been a long day. 00:03:09.12 Chris Olson So, uh, anyone listening, if you'd like to see our film, uh, about British weather, do send us in your like suggestions for the name. 00:03:14.16 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:03:16.81 Chris Olson I, cause I'm, I bet you there's some good puns out there. I can't think of any off the top of my head. um but I would, I would accept some of the very best. 00:03:21.42 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:03:24.04 Chris Olson Um, and I'll read them out. 00:03:25.71 Brian Penn We need a good title. 00:03:26.12 Chris Olson Um, Yeah, it has to be good title. 00:03:27.23 Brian Penn A good title. 00:03:28.37 Chris Olson And if you want to cast the film as well, I'm open to that. 00:03:28.75 Brian Penn Let's draw us down. 00:03:30.85 Chris Olson I think there's you some... It has to be British actors. I'm sorry, i'm going to pull that card. The reason being is anything else is unacceptable when it comes to the British weather. Like Brian just you intimated, only we know it truly in depth. 00:03:39.94 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:03:42.68 Brian Penn don't know. We get it. We get it, don't we? 00:03:44.75 Chris Olson We get it. 00:03:45.12 Brian Penn We understand. Yes. 00:03:46.72 Chris Olson What we also get is movies, generally. 00:03:48.41 Brian Penn Yes. 00:03:48.85 Chris Olson And this is a UK Film Club. If this is your first time, welcome. And on our show, we review all types of movies. So we review some of the cinema currently. We review something from the indie yeah sorry the streaming platforms and also indie films that get sent to us. 00:04:05.72 Chris Olson And we also finish up with what's called our Nostalgia Pick, which is a film from the past. 00:04:08.98 Brian Penn Yeah, 00:04:11.43 Chris Olson And I'm happy to say again, I've managed to do it where I've linked it to something in the cinema. So there we go. 00:04:16.46 Brian Penn you have. 00:04:17.88 Chris Olson i mean, it shouldn't really be that difficult, but yeah I find things challenging these days. 00:04:18.00 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:04:22.39 Chris Olson um But we found an absolute classic and we won't go yeah we' spoil it just yet, but stay tuned for our nostalgia review. 00:04:22.52 Brian Penn Yeah. Yes. yeah 00:04:29.48 Brian Penn yes 00:04:30.26 Chris Olson You're going to love it. um But first up, we so always start with the films at the cinema. And as it is this summer, ah you kids are off. It's time to hit the cinema. So we're hoping for some absolute you know smash hits here. 00:04:44.78 Chris Olson um So Brian's going to take us through the selection that he's seen recently, starting with F1, the movie. 00:04:50.03 Brian Penn um Oh, yes. F1 the movie. All right, let's bear with me a second. Oh, there we are. Right. Okay, then. 00:04:59.76 Chris Olson That was not a speedy start. you know to to To bring on the whole like idea of Formula 1 and you kind of did a little full start there, it's brilliant. 00:05:01.37 Brian Penn No, it wasn't. I know. I know. ah ah lost I lost my place for a second. 00:05:07.01 Chris Olson You're 00:05:08.62 Brian Penn Right, I'm back now. I'm back in the room. 00:05:09.98 Chris Olson back. 00:05:10.99 Brian Penn Right, okay. So directed by Joseph Kaczynski, starring Brad Pitt, Damson Idris, Kerry Condon, and Javier Bardem. Back in the 90s, Sonny Hayes was Formula One's most promising driver until a near-facial crash ended his career. 00:05:26.86 Brian Penn Since then, he's underliving as a driver for hire. He dreams of the glory that eluded him and now struggles with the gambling habit. But salvation arrives in the shape of former teammate Ruben Cervantes, who now runs a struggling Formula One team. 00:05:41.49 Brian Penn He convinces Sonny to rejoin the big time. Driving alongside him is hotshot British driver Joshua Pearce. But how will they cope as teammates? Now, this is a classic rookie and veteran storyline. 00:05:54.38 Brian Penn You've got the older man who sees something of himself and the new kid on the block. It's everything you want want it to be. Exciting, adrenaline-filled, lots of action. It's co-produced by Jerry Bruckheimer, so you kind of know what you're getting. This is the man who brought us Top Gun, amongst many others. 00:06:11.41 Brian Penn Lewis Hamilton is also a co-producer. So he adds a degree of authenticity, so it seems that much more real. And, you know, Brad Pitt still kicks it as a leading man, Chris. 00:06:23.60 Brian Penn He's 61, 62, going on 62. 00:06:26.67 Chris Olson Is he really? 62? 00:06:27.82 Brian Penn Yeah, know. 00:06:28.23 Chris Olson Wow. 00:06:29.10 Brian Penn It'll be 62 in December, I checked earlier on. 00:06:29.17 Chris Olson He 00:06:31.54 Brian Penn And he's not looking bad on it, is he, really? Can you think about it? 00:06:33.44 Chris Olson he never does. um i I consider myself a heterosexual, but he is always fabulous looking. 00:06:34.80 Brian Penn yeah 00:06:39.85 Chris Olson Always. 00:06:41.29 Brian Penn ah You know, yeah you've got to hand it to him. I mean, in the storyline, his character can't be more than 50. You know, if he was an up-and-coming Formula One driver in the 90s, you wouldn't think he'd be more than 50 now. But, I mean, I suppose that could be where where the credibility of this story shakes a little bit, mumbles little bit, because he'd be 50 now. How many 50-year-olds do you get? 00:07:04.45 Brian Penn in Formula One. I don't think you get that now. But, you know, that's a minor quibble. He still looks the part, Chris, and I think that is so difficult for a leading actor as they get older, where they don't necessarily play those roles and they move into more character-based roles. 00:07:20.01 Brian Penn But he still does it. He still kicks it and it gives all of us hope, doesn't it, really? But, you know, nonetheless for that, you know, when you look at, when you think about summer blockbusters, great films at the movies during the summer, this is right out there. 00:07:34.98 Brian Penn It's a very, very entertaining film. Visually, it's great. It's just so exciting to watch. um So, yeah, I like it. i like it a lot. 00:07:43.15 Chris Olson I mean, racing films as a genre are synonymous with cinema spectacle. 00:07:49.10 Brian Penn Hmm. 00:07:49.36 Chris Olson I think they're always, you don't have to go too much into detail before you realise, yeah, it's a film for the cinema because of you the absolute yeah adrenaline, the the editing, the sound. 00:07:55.71 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:07:59.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:08:00.54 Chris Olson I remember seeing, always talk about this film, but right ah so Rush, I saw Rush 00:08:01.14 Brian Penn Hmm. 00:08:03.87 Brian Penn Oh, Rush is great. Yeah, I love Rush. 00:08:05.06 Chris Olson in the cinema, um I think it was in the Dolby cinema, and it was absolutely amazing, just the feel of that film. It was like a ah sensory overload. 00:08:12.80 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:08:13.00 Chris Olson um But there's been some incredible yeah racing movies. talk about like Ford versus Ferrari, not that old. 00:08:18.80 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:19.52 Chris Olson you've You also reviewed Ferrari not that long ago um on the pod. 00:08:22.41 Brian Penn yeah but 00:08:24.06 Chris Olson And it's it's a it's kind of like boxing. 00:08:24.67 Brian Penn yeah 00:08:26.97 Chris Olson like Boxing has got a load of really good films in that genre, and I think racing does too. 00:08:29.93 Brian Penn yeah but 00:08:31.69 Chris Olson Where does this sort of sit in that list? 00:08:32.14 Brian Penn yeah 00:08:34.56 Brian Penn I would put it fairly high up. You know, some people might look at this and say it's it's very sort kind of brash and loud and doesn't quite match something like Ferrari ah or Ford versus the thing with Christian Bowing. 00:08:53.37 Chris Olson Yeah, Ford versus Ferrari, wasn't it? 00:08:54.60 Brian Penn Ferrari, yeah, that's it. 00:08:54.69 Chris Olson Yeah. 00:08:56.25 Brian Penn ah that I mean, if you go back further than that, you could talk about Grand Prix as well with James Garner, which was a great film. 00:09:01.11 Chris Olson Mm. 00:09:02.77 Brian Penn That was back in the sixty But it I think it it's more towards the top than it is to the middle or the bottom ah of that pecking order, if you like. you know um So, yeah, i think I think it's good. It works. you know But motor racing lends itself very well to the big screen, doesn't it? 00:09:20.95 Chris Olson Mm. 00:09:21.23 Brian Penn You don't have to try very hard to make Formula One look sexy on screen because it just is. right You know, compare it to other sports. I mean, you mentioned boxing. that That's a natural subject for for movie makers. 00:09:34.28 Brian Penn But you look at and ah another mass spectator sport like football, it doesn't work nearly as well. And it's not easy to explain why, but motor racing does have that kind of adrenaline feel, pump action feel to it. 00:09:48.28 Brian Penn And you don't need to do a lot to it. You know, you can almost train a camera on onto a Formula One circuit and you've got it. It's there. You know, the drama's there already. 00:10:00.15 Brian Penn And what they've done with this film is that they've, They've packed a familiar story around around the film itself. Something that you know, you get it, and it's master and it's sorcerer and apprentice, isn't it? 00:10:14.58 Brian Penn You've got the the old hand with the young kid, you know, and how they how they may or may not work together. I'm going to give anything away because you've got to go and see the film to find out. But, um you know, really enjoyed it. 00:10:27.51 Brian Penn It's really, really good fun. um 00:10:29.53 Chris Olson there you go i mean yeah i mean anything like that um always brings people in think it's a good option for people this summer the sound of it um if you see f1 the movie do send us in your reviews or just put a comment on our social posts for this podcast it's always good to see what other people thought of it um 00:10:30.35 Brian Penn yeah 00:10:34.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:10:45.12 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:10:48.35 Chris Olson Yeah, no, it's one of those films I of would always try and look out for. i always find it funny with racing movies, though. There's always this one thing which they always do, or almost always do, which is they'll be going along, and then they're like, you whoever's their competitor will be coming up close behind them. 00:10:59.41 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah. yeah 00:11:03.71 Chris Olson And then they'll suddenly go, all right, well, now I'm going to put the foot down to the floor. And I'm like, why were you not driving with the foot to the floor before? 00:11:07.90 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:11:11.14 Brian Penn yeah 00:11:11.38 Chris Olson Like, what were you why were you sort of half-arsing 00:11:11.91 Brian Penn Yeah. and 00:11:14.21 Chris Olson Just dawdling. 00:11:14.28 Brian Penn Yeah. So you're dawdling, aren't you? You're literally dawdling. 00:11:16.77 Chris Olson Yeah. 00:11:17.13 Brian Penn Now you put the pedals to the metal all of a sudden. Yeah, I know. 00:11:18.96 Chris Olson yes and yeah i Yeah, I'm not, a ah maybe yeah maybe Lewis Hamilton would explain this to us because I don't know why, um but maybe it is a thing. 00:11:24.15 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah 00:11:27.65 Chris Olson But that feels like a cinema thing rather than a racing thing. 00:11:27.79 Brian Penn Yeah. I think so. I think that's for for dramatic effects. And it is almost like a Artistic license, isn't it? It's just something like that they throw in to to give it to add to the tension. 00:11:41.37 Brian Penn But you know you've got all these great machines whizzing around the track. And of course, you watch Formula One for real, or if you was at a Formula One circuit actually there, that's frustrating in itself because you just see a car whizz around, cars whizz around, that's it, they're gone. got to wait for come around again. that's Well, on screen, you know you can you can follow it all the way. um So, and also, of the three films that we're looking at on general release, it's that it's been out the longest out of the three, but it's still going great guns in the cinema. 00:12:10.96 Chris Olson oh 00:12:11.90 Brian Penn You know, which is good to see as well. 00:12:14.05 Chris Olson Doing good business. It's put its foot to the floor. That's what it's done. 00:12:16.51 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:12:17.05 Chris Olson yeah Look what I did there. I brought it back. How nice. 00:12:19.68 Brian Penn I know. 00:12:21.00 Chris Olson If only the whole show was that smooth. 00:12:21.52 Brian Penn I know. 00:12:24.08 Chris Olson um 00:12:24.21 Brian Penn We try, it we try, don't we? 00:12:26.29 Chris Olson Brian, it's meant today that we're reviewing three films, so we're going to move on to the second of the cinema releases. And I won't do the soundtrack, which I like to often do when I'm with friends, um because it is absolutely iconic. But I believe they took the soundtrack off this installment of the franchise. Brian be able to correct me on that. 00:12:44.63 Chris Olson um But we're going to be looking at Jurassic World Rebirth next. 00:12:48.25 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah, they they you're right. They did too they did fiddle with with the ah with the soundtrack, but i don't think you necessarily notice it quite as much. 00:12:57.11 Chris Olson Well, it's just I heard this might be absolute rubbish, but I heard that Spielberg wanted certain things removed from this film or or or wasn't happy for certain things to be included. 00:12:58.49 Brian Penn Strangely. Yep. 00:13:06.43 Chris Olson i don't know if that's true. 00:13:06.81 Brian Penn yeah Yeah, I've heard this heard the same thing, but I think that's probably born out the fact he wants the film to stand by and sta on its own. You know, because even though Spielberg is executive producer, it's still got Spielberg's paw prints all over it you know yeah If you didn't know any different, you'd swear it was a Spielberg film or directed by Spielberg. So I think where that's coming from, I'm speculating here, but I think Spielberg's anxious for it to be to be ah not necessarily a Spielberg film. 00:13:37.35 Brian Penn but a Gareth Edwards film who directed it. ah That's what I think is behind it. As I say, I'm speculating. But yeah, you're right. he what He was tinkering a little bit, um particularly when you know it's the latest installment in the franchise. 00:13:50.62 Brian Penn um Perhaps they're trying to give it more of a standalone film, but there you are. um So it stars Scarlett Johansson, Mahershala Ali, Jonathan Bailey, and Rupert Friend. 00:14:04.82 Brian Penn So as I just mentioned, this is the seventh installment of the Jurassic Park franchise. The story begins in 2009 on a dinosaur research lab on the island of St. Hubert in the Atlantic. 00:14:17.92 Brian Penn The lab creates hybrid dinosaurs in a desperate bid to generate more interest. However, the creatures escape and the island is abandoned. 17 years later, pharmaceutical rep Martin Krebs recruits ex-soldier Zora Bennett. 00:14:32.53 Brian Penn Their mission is to return to the island. and collect blood samples from the three largest surviving dinosaurs. They believe this holds the key to the written to the treatment of heart disease. 00:14:44.23 Brian Penn This is great filmmaking, Chris. 00:14:46.75 Chris Olson Ooh. 00:14:46.86 Brian Penn Really is outstanding. They've reinvigorated the Jurassic brand, which I didn't think was possible. you know If you look back at the sequels that followed the first film, you kind of knew what to to expect, roughly, generally. 00:15:00.80 Brian Penn This type of film relies on its ability to surprise the audience. And they managed to do that in spades. You know, at one point, sitting in my seat in my local multiplex, watching this film, I actually ducked in one scene. 00:15:16.68 Brian Penn and like Oh no, look, look, look out. You know, literally, that's what I was doing. And it's not often a film does that to me, where I get that engrossed in it and that involved in it, that it made me duck. You know, I'm always shouting out, look out, careful. 00:15:31.57 Brian Penn um But that's that's how good it I think it is. um And it's interesting because you look at the the subject matter, the storyline they're developing here is that, you know, they they were experimenting with crossbreeding with dinosaurs. 00:15:51.38 Brian Penn And they came up with what effectively became a mutant that's on this island that nobody ever visited, but they've gone back for a reason to further medical science. And some of the things that are, 00:16:03.51 Brian Penn i've kind of shifted into conventional horror in my opinion now um whereas before I never thought Jurassic Jurassic Park, Jurassic World was ever really a conventional horror movie not in that way but now I think it's done it it's it's kind of it's stepped into the horror genre as well as the adventure action genre um and it's brilliant it's really really good and it's got Scarlett Johansson in it Chris you know and any film Scarlett Johansson is alright by me 00:16:31.71 Chris Olson Yeah, I mean, she's great. And i think it's interesting that she's gone back into a franchise yeah of the after all the Marvel stuff. um 00:16:38.70 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:16:39.93 Chris Olson Whether or not she'll do more, I don't know. But I think this in particular, this franchise was reinvigorated when they did the Chris Pratt one. 00:16:49.70 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:16:49.81 Chris Olson um But I think it started to show diminishing returns again. 00:16:52.45 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:16:52.95 Chris Olson so it's interesting they of rebirth. They bring again. think... 00:16:56.25 Brian Penn Well, yeah. 00:16:57.10 Chris Olson and i think It does have a lot of longevity. It's something that a lot of people enjoy, um the idea of it anyway. 00:17:04.21 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:17:04.52 Chris Olson And often the execution can be really cool. Like you your reaction to it, your visceral reaction in the cinema to it shows that there is something something primeval about it, obviously. 00:17:11.98 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:17:16.08 Chris Olson But also the filmmakers know that they've got us in their palms. We go, all right, let's yeah give them something that's going to really... 00:17:23.26 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:17:23.55 Chris Olson g him up um finally so it's when you mentioned about the fact that you reacted in the cinema you said something out loud reminded me of the funny time um we went as a family as me my brother my mom and dad to watch the dark night uh at the cinema so we're going back quite a few years ago my mom is notorious for doing two things in films one falling asleep and two saying things out loud because she just doesn't really have like much of a filter so something happened in the film i think it's when um 00:17:27.59 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:17:35.82 Brian Penn Alright, okay. Yeah. Yeah. 00:17:45.49 Brian Penn but yeah. 00:17:51.74 Chris Olson ah the yeah the Joker sets fire to all the money. i think that there's a scene where he sets fire to all the money. And my mum just out loud just went, oh, they won't like that. 00:18:02.66 Brian Penn I 00:18:02.70 Chris Olson Just burst out. It was like, no one laughed either. Everyone just was like, oh my God, she's mad. 00:18:06.08 Brian Penn don't know. 00:18:07.14 Chris Olson Like, what why is she saying this? 00:18:07.68 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:18:08.96 Chris Olson But yeah, was just wondering, you know, with you reacting to all these dinosaurs, whether you was there any reaction to you or was everyone else doing it as well? 00:18:09.08 Brian Penn Well, 00:18:13.20 Brian Penn yeah. Well, yeah. home not Yeah, I think other people were as well. yeah you wouldn't necessarily say there was this huge roar that went up, but I did hear other reactions as well. 00:18:24.67 Brian Penn I don't know whether anyone noticed what I was saying or what I was doing, but I think it was quite quite busy. you know i'd i'd say it was the auditorium was maybe 90% full. 00:18:35.83 Brian Penn you know It was quite pretty full up. 00:18:37.81 Chris Olson Good business, we call it. Doing good business. That's we like. 00:18:39.85 Brian Penn Oh, yeah, absolutely. absolutely Yeah, and I can believe that as well, and it deserves to. These are the sort of films that bring us out of the bring us out of our holes, Chris, bring us out of our homes and take us into the cinema. 00:18:51.41 Brian Penn This is what you want to see. You want to see that something that's different. You want the wow factor. So, you know, deeply impressed by it all. and to so 00:18:59.67 Chris Olson Deep impressed. 00:19:01.36 Brian Penn But to call it, and to subtitle it Rebirth, it's really appropriate because the storyline is about rebirth. but it so But it's also about rebranding, resetting the brand. Because, you know... 00:19:14.33 Brian Penn what The great thing about a franchise is that you can serve up the same or similar entertainment knowing it's still going to sell, right? But you've also got that challenge of making it fresh and new because it's easy to fall into a trap of just doing the same thing, you know, over and over again. And you know it works. We know it works. 00:19:34.19 Brian Penn You give people what they want. But you also challenge people as well because you're giving them something slightly different. And know as I said earlier on, I think it's very difficult. to be that original when you've got a franchise because it's too safe to keep to a formula but as I say when you see it and you see what they've done and you see how they've refined and developed the st structurets the traditional structure of Jurassic Park and Jurassic World they've done something really really clever with it and I like ah really like that yeah 00:20:03.94 Chris Olson Well, we're on to some winners already. and And I've got good feelings about this ah this third one as well, because it's doing interesting business. 00:20:11.44 Brian Penn yeah 00:20:11.58 Chris Olson um A new iteration of Superman, directed by James Gunn. on, Brian. Tell us. 00:20:17.13 Brian Penn ah can Okay then. So it stars David Curran Sweat, ah Rachel Brosnahan and Nicholas Holt. So the storyline. We begin with the premise that Superman is the most loved and powerful superhero on Earth. 00:20:31.21 Brian Penn However, his popularity is in jeopardy following his mission to stop the nation of Baravia invading Jahangpur and warns Baravian president Vasil Gokos to leave Yohangor alone. 00:20:47.02 Brian Penn um 00:20:47.93 Chris Olson You're doing well, Brian. Keep going. These names are absolutely kicking your in the bat, aren't they? 00:20:49.33 Brian Penn know, I know, this is, I know, knew I was going to struggle with all of this. Why don't they give us simple titles that we can remember? 00:20:58.38 Chris Olson Just change them. 00:20:58.76 Brian Penn Anyway, I know, I know, no one's going to notice, yeah. 00:20:59.06 Chris Olson I won't know. Just go, it's Bob and Fred. 00:21:02.68 Brian Penn After losing a battle for the first time, Superman is saved by Krypto the Superdog. He later seeks refuge in his fortress of solitude in Antarctica. Solar radiation is used to heal him. 00:21:13.61 Brian Penn However, billionaire Lex Luthor is waiting in the wings and launches a monster on Metropolis as a distraction. But can Superman rise to the challenge? It's a thoroughly enjoyable film. 00:21:27.02 Brian Penn As you'd expect, the visuals are stunning. The set pieces are amazing. I think it's difficult to get Superman wrong, really. It's such a strong story. Superman is deeply ingrained in popular culture. 00:21:38.73 Brian Penn We've grown up with it and has a familiarity that gives us comfort and reassurance. if it has a weak spot and it's not that much of a weak spot, but I feel I need to point it out. Um, it's crypto, the super dog, because it's, it's all CGI based, right? 00:21:54.82 Chris Olson Careful here, Brian. You're going to annoy the dog lovers. Careful. 00:21:57.67 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 00:21:58.25 Chris Olson Oh, 00:21:58.34 Brian Penn ah But, but I'll say why I wouldn't, I'll say why I wouldn't because the dog, it's all CGI based, but the dog almost puts the human characters in the shade. The dog is absolutely brilliant in it. 00:22:09.46 Chris Olson oh okay, cool. You like the dog. 00:22:10.66 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:22:10.89 Chris Olson Phew, because I literally thought we're going to get letters, Brian. 00:22:11.66 Brian Penn The, 00:22:13.22 Chris Olson If you don't like this dog, jeez. 00:22:13.82 Brian Penn well but The dog is fantastic, but it's it's all CGI generated. Now, apparently they used a real dog on set, so they got the actors' reactions right. 00:22:24.70 Brian Penn But pretty much what you see on screen is CGI generated. And it's amazing, Chris, right? And it's getting to a point now where you literally can't tell that it's CGI. 00:22:35.64 Brian Penn You know, certain scenes you think, ah, I can see that CGI. But most of the time it looks real. And it's almost distracting because when the crypto is not on screen, you're thinking to yourself, I want to see crypto again. 00:22:50.43 Brian Penn I want crypto. I want to see crypto. And to me, I find that a bit of a distraction because because it is about Superman. It's about what he can do and what he can achieve and what he overcomes. 00:23:02.12 Brian Penn And this is the beauty of the story that we know so well. And it's good overcoming evil, isn't it? But Crypto the Superdog steals the show. um which could have a detrimental effect. I mean, maybe I'm being too picky, but it it' so it's a very, very good film, very enjoyable. 00:23:20.87 Brian Penn And you know what what else, Chris, about any Superman film? Each one feels like the first one to me. You know, it has that standalone feel. You enjoy it as much. 00:23:31.64 Brian Penn You don't get judgmental about various Superman films. I mean, know I can think of when I first saw Superman with Christopher Reeve in. And I enjoyed that just as much, but it stands on its own. 00:23:43.47 Brian Penn And it's it simply a different version of the same story. So you don't feel when you don't necessarily recognise a franchise and a never-ending list of Superman films. like There must be loads. 00:23:56.37 Brian Penn How many Superman movies have been made? 00:23:58.41 Chris Olson Oh, you need to ask Ian, really, don't you, from the ph Phantom Zone. 00:23:58.55 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 30 or 40? 00:24:01.57 Chris Olson He he loves Superman. and 00:24:03.11 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:03.73 Chris Olson I think they've done an episode. 00:24:03.93 Brian Penn thatsly 00:24:05.55 Chris Olson Well, there was the franchise that we saw recently, wasn't there? trouble he He turns up in some films as well. like in the Yeah, I wouldn't know, but a lot. 00:24:12.14 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:15.74 Chris Olson i 00:24:16.02 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:16.38 Chris Olson More than enough. And especially if you include like animated stuff as well. 00:24:19.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:19.38 Chris Olson He's in all that stuff. 00:24:20.41 Brian Penn yeah I mean, the thing is you also got ah Superman versus Batman, that film as well, which... 00:24:25.65 Chris Olson Yeah, there was a Man of Steel, which then led to that. 00:24:27.25 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:28.27 Chris Olson Then there was, I think he was in the Justice League and all this sort of stuff. 00:24:31.27 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:31.53 Chris Olson But yeah, go listen to Phantom Zone if you love all that. 00:24:32.11 Brian Penn So... Yeah. 00:24:34.64 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:34.77 Chris Olson You know, Chris and Ian and the gang, they love all this. 00:24:37.13 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:24:37.59 Chris Olson sound like I'm 400 old, I, yeah, not, 00:24:37.81 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 00:24:40.85 Brian Penn Well... 00:24:41.75 Chris Olson no 00:24:41.84 Brian Penn i'm you You know, Chris, i'm not I'm not a massive fan of Marvel and DC because of the way they make films. is so It's so calculating, really. And I don't feel it always does justice to the comics because that's where it comes from, right? 00:24:56.02 Brian Penn And the comics are just unsurpassable. The films are never going to going to match up to the comic strips, the original stories. And to me, they don't always take care of the of the legacy, if you like. 00:25:09.33 Brian Penn But I really enjoyed this. I i really did enjoy it. It was great fun to watch. And, you know, which is unusual for me because, i you know, with any Marvel DC film, oh I will pick it apart and say, oh, no, it's the same old, same old. But this was great. I really enjoyed it. 00:25:27.03 Chris Olson Well, this is the awkward bit though, because I normally yeah have a good inkling as to what you're going to pick as your film of the month for the cinema releases. 00:25:33.45 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:25:33.47 Chris Olson And I don't know which way you're going to go. 00:25:35.57 Brian Penn Well, yeah. I mean, usually, 00:25:36.91 Chris Olson what's film of the month, Brian? 00:25:38.27 Brian Penn well Well, I mean, usually one jumps out at me, one's obvious, but this time it's not. I think probably for the first time ever, it's actually not easy to pick one. 00:25:49.52 Brian Penn But of course I've got to, haven't I, really? And that would have to be Jurassic World Rebirth, just about. 00:25:56.92 Chris Olson Oh, wow. 00:25:58.35 Brian Penn Just about. 00:25:59.36 Chris Olson If you'd have told me that before, I'd have said no way. 00:25:59.38 Brian Penn It's very 00:26:02.40 Chris Olson Brian is not a fan of sequels. He wants like you know the original stories. 00:26:05.94 Brian Penn and 00:26:06.76 Chris Olson So, wow, that must have been an impressive film for you. 00:26:06.86 Brian Penn Yeah, exactly, yeah. but But for the reasons I've described, because because it's it's done something new to refresh the brand, the franchise, because it's too, you know, you find a formula that works, you stick to it, don't you? 00:26:22.22 Brian Penn If you're a filmmaker, you think it's making money. People want it. Why not? Why change anything? But they've got to a stage where they think, right, now we're going to try something different. but gonna We're going to throw a curveball at the audience, you know, and so and so see if they like it. Now, I i think this is, 00:26:39.70 Brian Penn just the job when it comes to breaking a mould within a franchise. Carry on with it, but you do something new with it. so And that's why it's Film of the Month. 00:26:48.56 Chris Olson Film of the month. There you go. um Listeners, don't switch off because we've still got way more to go through. 00:26:53.61 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:26:55.07 Chris Olson Some people realise they think we only review films at cinema. No, no, no We review loads of films. 00:26:58.87 Brian Penn No. 00:27:00.05 Chris Olson Don't switch off. 00:27:00.13 Brian Penn Yeah, we do. 00:27:01.36 Chris Olson And the next one is available on Netflix. 00:27:01.39 Brian Penn No. 00:27:04.43 Chris Olson It's our streaming pick of the month. That doesn't mean that we like it. It's just what we've picked. um And this film is a sequel. It's The Old Guard 2 starring Charlize Theron as the central character of Andy, um who we met in the first film. It turns out she's immortal. 00:27:22.80 Chris Olson um But left at the end of that film, she is not. 00:27:23.97 Brian Penn Mm. 00:27:26.31 Chris Olson yeah She's no longer immortal, which was a bit of an interesting twist. 00:27:27.63 Brian Penn No. 00:27:31.35 Chris Olson It gets kind of played about in this second film um where she's back um in with the gang and they are kicking ass whilst living in exile, basically. 00:27:42.36 Chris Olson um But the emergence of a long buried character sets them on a path to threaten the peace that they so much enjoy. Yeah. 00:27:51.37 Brian Penn Mm. 00:27:52.62 Chris Olson Yeah, it's it's a one of these sort of fantasy films that to say too much about it would just spoil it because there's only a few twists and turns in there and it would sort of ruin it, I think, if you haven't seen it. 00:27:58.62 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:28:04.87 Chris Olson I definitely think you need to see the first one. If you haven't seen that, I would watch The Old Guard first. I quite enjoyed that. I thought it was quite good. With The Old Guard 2, going to ask Brian his opinion first before I give mine. 00:28:18.10 Chris Olson Go for it, Brian. 00:28:19.70 Brian Penn Right. Well, look, it's very well done. Again, it's the C word for me. It's competent, right? 00:28:27.15 Chris Olson Oh, not that C word. Right. 00:28:28.00 Brian Penn oh No, no, not that sort of word. 00:28:28.04 Chris Olson A different... Gosh. 00:28:30.18 Brian Penn I've caught you twice now. 00:28:30.35 Chris Olson Whoa. 00:28:31.49 Brian Penn did that you once before, didn't 00:28:31.82 Chris Olson You have, yeah. 00:28:33.51 Brian Penn Yeah, but it's competent, right? And that that could be a ah kind of a negative or a positive thing, right? Insofar that I don't think it's taking any chances of a film like this. I think the first one was better than the second one. 00:28:47.01 Brian Penn um But this kind of goes by the numbers a a little bit, right? um I don't feel the characters are that strong. Apart from Andy, you don't you don't feel the characters stand out quite as much as you think they would. 00:28:59.86 Brian Penn you know that So it could do with with a bit more character building, building the characters up a bit more. um Again, it's look it's a familiar theme, isn't it? you know it It's about keeping humanity safe and ah using that. 00:29:15.78 Brian Penn mean, it's almost like a superpower, isn't it, being a morsel? 00:29:18.77 Chris Olson Yeah, I thought it felt like Netflix is trying to start at like a little franchise, you know trying to create... 00:29:18.86 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:29:24.08 Brian Penn yeah 00:29:25.47 Chris Olson I think it's based on some graphic novels. and 00:29:28.00 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:29:28.90 Chris Olson And considering that, i didn't I felt the same as you. It wasn't fully fleshed out in terms of the characters. 00:29:34.79 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:29:35.45 Chris Olson There's a lot of skimming along. I've just got, okay, this is that person, right, fine. We're just sort of given to accept it. um I think the villains are... 00:29:47.83 Chris Olson and and this is quite typical of this genre, the villains are quite melodramatic. um Like it has kind of like the mummy vibes. 00:29:51.88 Brian Penn yeah and 00:29:55.07 Chris Olson It feels a bit like that, but not as... 00:29:55.33 Brian Penn yeah 00:29:56.94 Chris Olson I love the mummy. The mummy's a great film, but it... 00:29:58.85 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:29:59.52 Chris Olson yeah the The original, by the way, not the one with Tom Cruise. i 00:30:02.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:03.44 Chris Olson But this this has that sort of like, oh, yeah, we're we're jet setting, we're going across the yeah the globe and they're fighting crazy you know things from the past. um 00:30:13.23 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:14.28 Chris Olson But it also has... Almost like a sort of spy thriller-esque to it, le with the sort of beings that are trying to sort stop everything. um 00:30:23.26 Brian Penn yeah 00:30:23.89 Chris Olson It's clunky. I think you can't get away from it being clunky. And they are riding a lot, I think, on Charlize Theron sort of bringing that star power to it. 00:30:34.00 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:34.39 Chris Olson If this was just a group of no ones... 00:30:36.86 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:36.90 Chris Olson ah Sorry, not no ones, but unknowns, I should say. 00:30:38.27 Brian Penn Yeah, no, I'm not student. 00:30:38.85 Chris Olson um It would feel like, do we need to watch this? 00:30:39.67 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:42.17 Chris Olson And I always think Charlie Stone picks some amazing movies. 00:30:42.53 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:46.47 Chris Olson um I don't think this is one of them. 00:30:46.63 Brian Penn Yeah. No. 00:30:48.57 Chris Olson The first one was more watchable. This I found I didn't 00:30:50.74 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:30:54.60 Chris Olson sort of feel it was slow I didn't sort of feel oh gosh oh when will this end I was more like it finished I kind of went okay and just just didn't think about it ever again until right now and I think the um i think that says a lot really 00:30:58.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:01.31 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:04.86 Brian Penn yeah 00:31:07.49 Brian Penn Yeah, you didn't feel any any real pangs, did you, when it ended? You think, oh, okay, that's fine, you know. 00:31:10.63 Chris Olson no i liked the banter between the group i thought that was fun i liked that it did have a sort of fast pace like they were moving around a lot and that kept things moving there's an opening scene where they're sort of in this mansion and everything's kicking off that was really well done there's lots of great stunts but i think you need so much more than that now with audiences like you know you talked earlier about f1 the movie that 00:31:14.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:21.44 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:26.08 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:31.65 Brian Penn yeah 00:31:34.86 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:35.34 Chris Olson We've seen that before. I've seen that being done. 00:31:36.87 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:31:37.10 Chris Olson But when you've got a heartfelt story and something that you can connect to, I don't feel that I really connected to anyone in this. Not even Andy, the main sort of character. 00:31:45.55 Brian Penn Yeah. i mean I mean, it does it does the job. The fact they've they've made a second film, it must have done well enough. you know it's 00:31:52.52 Chris Olson I don't know with Netflix. They seem to cancel the things that are popular and then they they keep the things that no one wants. 00:31:54.13 Brian Penn Well, yeah. Yeah, they're just contrary, aren't they? But I think there's great potential there for this story. 00:32:00.04 Chris Olson Hmm. 00:32:02.15 Brian Penn I mean, The basic premise for the story is that you've got these eternal warriors who who are immortal, who survive through the centuries. So there's all kinds of possibilities there. 00:32:12.94 Brian Penn You could take them back in time and put them, I don't know, and put them ah on the centre of the battlefield at Waterloo, for example, or something. 00:32:19.62 Chris Olson yeah 00:32:20.33 Brian Penn You know, there's so much you could do. So it's a very good idea that hasn't been unpacked properly. You know, they've just sort of gone for the juggler, think, right, this is this is the market we want to hit. 00:32:32.85 Brian Penn Right, so, ah yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:32:34.13 Chris Olson I think you're right as well in that sense because that premise, that concept of like, you've got these warriors that just, know, they could have been anywhere across the timeline. But to stick them in a modern timeline kind of feels a bit like pointless. 00:32:47.50 Brian Penn well, yeah, no, 00:32:47.91 Chris Olson It's like, why are we not given something a little bit more interesting? um'm I suppose there's no threat, I guess, if you know they're going to survive, but you wouldn't know necessarily because these aren't key figures. 00:32:56.72 Brian Penn yeah 00:32:57.22 Chris Olson It's more they're just... 00:32:57.48 Brian Penn um 00:32:58.56 Chris Olson superheroes but yeah The Old Guard 2 felt to me like the type of film that was okay enough as a concept but it's not been executed in a way that's been anything brilliant it's it's fine and it's sturdy but it's not and anything brilliant and I think once you sort of 00:33:13.09 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:33:18.09 Chris Olson settle into the film, you go, okay, right, it's not going to go any further than this. It's just, this is all we're getting. And you kind of thought that because Charlize Theron was in it, that there was going to be something else, but it never gets there. 00:33:29.84 Chris Olson It never gets to the point where you go, oh, that's why she's done it. 00:33:30.46 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah Yeah, I know. 00:33:33.38 Chris Olson and and 00:33:33.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:33:34.07 Chris Olson yeah No, no, it is just just probably for the money. 00:33:37.04 Brian Penn Yeah, that's fair enough, you know. 00:33:37.12 Chris Olson um And that's absolutely fine. Don't okay rob yeah get wrong. Get paid. That's fine. yeah Make your next indie film. 00:33:41.47 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah. 00:33:42.66 Chris Olson Speaking of indie films, we're going on to indie films now. 00:33:44.21 Brian Penn Uh-huh. That's a good link, Chris. 00:33:46.24 Chris Olson i'm That segue, that was brilliant. 00:33:48.14 Brian Penn Yeah, segue, yeah. 00:33:48.43 Chris Olson That so smooth. 00:33:49.77 Brian Penn Oh, 00:33:49.93 Chris Olson um This is a section where we review films that have been actually sent to us specifically. They've said, please review our film. um And I'm very say that for the first film, we have a clip. 00:34:01.35 Chris Olson This is from the indie film called Tiny Little Voices. 00:34:01.74 Brian Penn wow. 00:34:05.50 Chris Olson Here we go. 00:34:32.97 Brian Penn Hello? Hello? 00:35:14.78 Chris Olson So there you go. Sorry, I was getting really into that. was so oh yeah, it's we're watching the film again. 00:35:17.92 Brian Penn And 00:35:18.62 Chris Olson um 00:35:18.72 Brian Penn yeah 00:35:19.60 Chris Olson So Tiny Little Voices, are possibly and one of an early films in what's going to be a new genre, which is post-pandemic films you and stories. 00:35:29.61 Brian Penn and 00:35:30.94 Chris Olson um It is set on the sort of tail end of the pandemic when things are reopening again. And we have two characters who... cross paths, ah both of whom have now got serious issues with germs and touching people and being near people and yeah this whole reopening of society. 00:35:50.87 Chris Olson And they happen to sort um find their way to each other. um And as you heard in that clip... calamity ensues there's lots of ah comedic set pieces going on and essentially it's about how these two people navigate this journey out of lockdown and back into society um and you know trying to sort of re-acclimatize themselves with that um what do you think of tiny little voices brian it's fun isn't it 00:36:18.27 Brian Penn I really liked i think it. was I think it was well acted, great scripts. At times it was very, very funny. you know when The idea that you've got all these inanimate objects speaking to her, and it plugs into Many people's insecurities surrounding COVID that when it ended, when the lockdown finished, they had to come out of that cocoon again, didn't they? And it suited some people to have the protection of being enclosed and being indoors. 00:36:46.38 Brian Penn For someone living on their own, you could see how that behaviour could escalate. But I think the idea that a toothbrush or a tap could be speaking to her and then a friend drags her out into the park, onto Clapham Comet, 00:37:02.99 Brian Penn And, you know, there was a duck that was walking past and it said to her, I want to talk to you about foie gras. I mean, I just think it's so clever. 00:37:09.43 Chris Olson Hmm. 00:37:12.48 Brian Penn It's it's so original to do that. But it it's kind of illustrating what what can happen to someone when they go to extremes and what um and being in clothes for so long can do. 00:37:24.72 Brian Penn Because being made to stay in and not go out changes people's mindsets. I mean, most people cut an itch to get out after COVID finish, could they? 00:37:33.82 Chris Olson Hmm. 00:37:34.00 Brian Penn right But some people became cocooned by it. And this is what the the central character is is really about, isn't it? It's trying to live a normal life again. 00:37:45.00 Brian Penn But at the same time, it weaves in a ah surprising romance, doesn't it, really? A relationship developing between two people that are very similar and have the same fears, haven't they, about COVID. 00:37:55.46 Chris Olson Yeah, I think that yeah that's what sort of cements it for me, um was that there was this strong storyline behind it. Because on the one hand, yes, you have this character that is hearing things, and that could have just been the film, right? It could have been, she's struggling to get past all this, what's going on, and she hears his voices. 00:38:14.64 Chris Olson and But actually... both characters are equally as yeah troubled by what's going on and they both have their own situations. 00:38:22.65 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:38:25.02 Chris Olson um And I think, so I'm not going into too much it, so I don't spoil it by the way. 00:38:29.60 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:38:30.11 Chris Olson umm And I think the film touching on how, impactful the the pandemic was on people across the board. 00:38:36.75 Brian Penn yeah 00:38:37.12 Chris Olson Like said, whether people were desperate to get back, that had an impact, or whether they were desperate to stay back inside. 00:38:42.78 Brian Penn know 00:38:43.02 Chris Olson um I love the quick editing between the voices talking. that 00:38:47.67 Brian Penn yeah 00:38:48.14 Chris Olson It wasn't like, oh, you've just got this like one bar of soap talking, right? It's like, no, there's lots of little things all happening all the time. 00:38:53.52 Brian Penn I know. Well done. 00:38:55.23 Chris Olson And it felt like it was claustrophobic for her. 00:38:55.57 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:38:58.11 Chris Olson It felt like a cacophony of noise. 00:38:58.11 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:00.72 Chris Olson I love that. 00:39:00.79 Brian Penn know. 00:39:01.85 Chris Olson ah The sound design and the music is really great. It's got a lighthearted atmosphere for the audience. The whole feel of the film feels... so uplifting it feels like it's uplifting even though it's actually turning quite a sort of sad story really about how this is impacting people it's done in a way that's fun it's it's bright you're gonna watch it and come away feeling a little bit sort of warmed by it and I think the lead uh she's great she has such a great straight uh you know um Thornton Rice um which plays Anna I I thought she was 00:39:24.19 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:28.48 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah this yeah yeah 00:39:35.37 Chris Olson break She was really great at handling both sides to that role, where she's got this sort of you know more anxiety-riddled person, but also someone that is trying to reacclimate and trying sort of help other people. um I thought it worked really, really well. 00:39:50.52 Chris Olson My only real criticism with it, and this is not going to shock anyone, is I think it's too long. I think it's about two hours. 00:39:57.53 Brian Penn Yeah, and I know. 00:39:58.81 Chris Olson And I just... I think... I'd be very surprised to see a list of films that are hilarious for two hours. 00:40:05.66 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 00:40:05.92 Chris Olson I just don't think it's possible because you run out of steam um unless you're doing something that is just absolutely incredible. 00:40:13.59 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:40:15.04 Chris Olson I think it's baggy at times. 00:40:15.17 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:40:16.60 Chris Olson There's scenes that kind of go on. 00:40:16.78 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:40:17.80 Chris Olson It needed a much, much stronger edit um because it goes off on tangents. and I think, unfortunately, that does. 00:40:25.19 Brian Penn yeah 00:40:25.39 Chris Olson I think some people may come away feeling a little bit like they found it funny and uplifting and great, but they also feel it overstayed its welcome a little bit. 00:40:31.14 Brian Penn Yeah, I agree. 00:40:32.72 Chris Olson like COVID. 00:40:33.11 Brian Penn Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah very good. I hadn't thought of it that way. But yeah, I think you're right. Look, we often talk about the running length of films, don't we? And i think yeah I think it's something that needs to be considered because it's part of the viewing experience, isn't it? 00:40:48.11 Brian Penn So if you're going to sit down for two hours and watch a film, you want the filmmaker to use the time well. This type of film, I think... what't doesn't work as well as it should do because it's too long and it is just ah think it's just a touch under two hours but this could have been a brilliant 90 minute film 00:41:07.42 Chris Olson Yeah, I think it, because I tell you who can do it, and this is something which I wanted to bring up in this review, is Richard Curtis, right? Richard Curtis can do a two-hour comedy film because often his have got enough, his his focus is so much more on the romance aspect 00:41:17.53 Brian Penn yeah yeah yeah 00:41:24.34 Chris Olson and the comedy is just always there that it's like you're you're really swept up in the romance of it and this had Richard Curtis vibes I will give it that you had the yeah the the lovely use of like locations yeah there's a brilliant bit in Borough Market where they sort of get food that's really great and it did have that sort of like 00:41:33.21 Brian Penn Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. 00:41:38.29 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:41:41.17 Brian Penn Yeah. Mm-hmm. 00:41:46.48 Chris Olson quirky characters going through something interesting i think it's a little bit more high concept than maybe that um but the the execution of it like i said it felt like someone doing a good attempt at a richard curtis film it's it's clearly not in the same league but it's the it's in the right direction you're in the right path know if you want to get to that level i think you do need a stronger edit you need to yeah trim that down get it get rid of the baggy stuff 00:41:52.26 Brian Penn Mm-hmm. 00:42:01.54 Brian Penn yeah 00:42:04.44 Brian Penn Yeah. i yeah 00:42:11.46 Chris Olson or put stuff in there that is more meaningful, that is going to sort yeah cope better. 00:42:13.94 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah 00:42:15.67 Chris Olson um 00:42:15.83 Brian Penn and Yeah. 00:42:16.60 Chris Olson But yeah, no, of I love it when I get a film that's a comedy film that actually makes me laugh. This genuinely made me laugh. 00:42:23.48 Brian Penn yeah 00:42:23.94 Chris Olson um I would yeah strongly recommend it. 00:42:26.63 Brian Penn And I've not seen a film that that deals with the subjects in that way where the central character literally can have conversations with inanimate objects. 00:42:38.06 Brian Penn I've not seen it deal with COVID, the issue of COVID dealt with in that way. And it's a new way of approaching it. But they do it, you know, they handle the the kind of the serious aspects of it, the psychological aspects of it. 00:42:50.60 Brian Penn But they also inject moments of humor. And that's what life is, isn't it? It's a series of dramas with moments of light relief. And that's That's the Richard Curtis way, isn't it, of doing it? 00:43:02.55 Brian Penn So if you're to be influenced by anyone, be influenced by the best. And, you know, there are kind of elements, ah chinks of light that you think, oh, yeah, that is a kind of Richard Curtis thing to do, where you're filling the screen with quirky characters who are very likable and quite endearing, but are real at the same time. 00:43:22.69 Brian Penn You know, and that's what Richard Curtis can do. So there's no harm in being influenced by someone who's good. 00:43:26.55 Chris Olson Yeah, and it has it has its own sort of freshness to it as well. 00:43:29.31 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:43:29.61 Chris Olson There was like, you know, it's tapping into LGBTQ plus themes. There are the post-pandemic elements being dealt with really, really well. 00:43:35.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:43:39.81 Chris Olson I don't think it's, you know 00:43:39.91 Brian Penn ye 00:43:41.87 Chris Olson trying to do that solely but it comes across the way actually you know what you've you've been influenced here whether you whether you like it or not and i think it's a good thing the film itself uh tiny little voices is available currently to watch on amazon prime so if you're in the uk and you've got prime you can watch it for free which is great so you can go and watch it let us know if you thought it was too long old video and also yeah anything else yeah there's 00:43:48.49 Brian Penn Yeah. ah yeah 00:44:03.18 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:44:05.45 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:44:06.33 Chris Olson It has an Instagram page at tiny little voices and we've reviewed it on the website. I believe it was James Leroy. Yeah. James Leroy reviewed it. A terrific critic. 00:44:17.53 Chris Olson um He wrote a fabulous review to go read that. 00:44:21.57 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:44:21.69 Chris Olson And on his review is the trailer. So if you're not quite sold on whether you want to watch it, you can also watch the trailer. I don't know. I can do any more plugging for that film. That was, I covered my bases surely pretty much there. 00:44:29.94 Brian Penn No. I think so, yeah. Yeah. 00:44:33.71 Chris Olson Um, 00:44:33.76 Brian Penn That's done it. Yeah. 00:44:35.28 Chris Olson Moving on to a short film, and also reviewed on the website by James Leroy. This is from filmmaker Michael Cook, who writes, directs and stars in the short film Up Down. 00:44:47.07 Chris Olson Sadly, I don't have a clip for this. um It's a fairly short film, and... um It doesn't necessarily need us to play a clip from it. 00:44:55.67 Brian Penn yeah 00:44:55.70 Chris Olson yeah If you have time, definitely go read James' review. He's done a fabulous review on the website. 00:45:01.00 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:45:01.01 Chris Olson um But Up Down sees a character essentially in limbo. 00:45:01.15 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:45:05.66 Chris Olson Something's happened and he finds himself in... the purgatory or somewhere purgatory adjacent. um And we see him go through a sort of very interesting looking ah space. 00:45:19.97 Chris Olson It starts to feel quite ethereal. And then he ends up in a chat with an angel, ah basically where they're going to decide where he goes next. 00:45:26.01 Brian Penn yeah 00:45:29.78 Chris Olson Does he go up or down? 00:45:29.82 Brian Penn Yeah. Mm. 00:45:31.41 Chris Olson Or does he stay where is? 00:45:33.04 Brian Penn Well, yeah. 00:45:33.24 Chris Olson And... and Michael Cook's made some really great short films. um I think this is a fantastic short. It's slick production, has this really like dark and meaty atmosphere that you're in throughout. 00:45:48.12 Chris Olson And obviously playing on a very common theme of yeah what happens to us when we die? yeah Have I been a good person? 00:45:56.43 Brian Penn Mm. 00:45:57.33 Chris Olson yeah How will I be judged? And it's yeah it's pulling that off. Cook himself is actually great in the lead. um And also Hunter Bishop as the angel. But Brian, what do you think of up-down? 00:46:09.71 Chris Olson Do you like it? 00:46:10.07 Brian Penn Oh, this is good. I like this. This is really good. You know, the thing is, straight away, it sets his stall out. very um mean, it's a short film anyway, so it can't hang about. But you know straight away where it's headed, what it's about. 00:46:22.64 Brian Penn You know, you've you've got the guy at the center of this story who's really in a waiting room. He's halfway between heaven and hell, isn't he? Right? He's talking to the angel and he's saying, why am I here? What's happened? 00:46:35.86 Brian Penn What's happened? He said, talk to me, man. Tell me about yourself, man. But why? yeah i it it's ah it's a fascinating sort of exchange and it's done very quickly. But you can see exactly what his anxieties are. 00:46:48.07 Brian Penn And he's it's sort like the angel saying, well, tell me where you think you belong. You know, do you belong down there or up there? You know, I think that is so clever. It's such a kind of ah it's lateral thinking, isn't it? 00:47:01.64 Brian Penn You think, this is this is someone who's caught between two worlds. 00:47:01.75 Chris Olson Mm-hmm. 00:47:07.44 Brian Penn You know, think it's excellent. I think it's, I love the simplicity of it. You know, one word I always use when I describe a film, if it's good, I say, ah love the simplicity of it, right? it's It's presenting you with with a ah simple premise, right? 00:47:23.36 Brian Penn This man, by the look of it, is about to meet his maker, right? But this commanding angel is saying to him, We're not sure where you belong. What have you done in your life? 00:47:34.86 Brian Penn Explain to us. Tell us about your life. Tell us what you've done. And that, I think, is so such a clever way of presenting a story and doing it very quickly as well. 00:47:45.90 Brian Penn So... 00:47:45.99 Chris Olson but i I've seen films as well where they've done this like idea. I think James even mentions a couple of films where you have this sort of idea of meeting your maker or or whatever it is and and being judged. 00:47:58.47 Chris Olson And often they can come down on two sides. I think it can be quite schmaltzy and it's very sort of like... 00:48:03.74 Brian Penn Yeah, 00:48:04.94 Chris Olson yeah almost nostalgic looking back on your life, or it can be very kind of like suspenseful. And I think this falls in the latter camp. 00:48:11.36 Brian Penn I was gonna say, yeah. 00:48:13.09 Chris Olson You know, the sound designs, it gives it sort really thrillery kind of feel. 00:48:14.52 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:48:17.78 Chris Olson It's so pulsating at times. 00:48:19.67 Brian Penn yeah 00:48:19.77 Chris Olson It's very, you know, you're in a state of unease for a lot of this. um And I think, you when you get given John's memories, it's like the emotional core of the film. 00:48:30.25 Brian Penn yeah 00:48:30.52 Chris Olson That really worked well because we connect to that character. The thing I found with it was it felt a little rushed, which was interesting because yeah when it's a short film, there's always that potential. 00:48:40.32 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:48:43.12 Chris Olson But I think here they gave a lot of time for him waiting to see the angel. 00:48:43.38 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:48:48.42 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:48:48.87 Chris Olson ah which was great because it added mysteries. Okay. What's going on here? And it felt, um, you know, that felt kind of arty. 00:48:56.04 Brian Penn yeah 00:48:56.60 Chris Olson And then we get this scene where it's very dialogue driven, um, but it's not that long. 00:48:56.65 Brian Penn yeah 00:48:59.56 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:01.30 Chris Olson And it felt like, Oh, okay. 00:49:01.41 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:02.30 Chris Olson But we just got going. Like you gave us all that waiting time. 00:49:03.68 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:04.78 Chris Olson And then suddenly like that scene was very, very quick. 00:49:06.06 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:07.61 Chris Olson Um, I don't know if that was down to any kind of budgetary reasons or if that's just what they wanted to do. 00:49:12.87 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:49:12.89 Chris Olson Um, but I, I, I suppose it's a good thing, really. I just wanted more of it. um i just thought it did feel a little bit rushed. 00:49:17.95 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:49:20.15 Chris Olson And I think you would likely come away pondering the themes that it's going to bring up. It brings up lots of about religion, beliefs, mythology. 00:49:26.07 Brian Penn Yeah. no 00:49:29.25 Chris Olson So it's got a big, wide appeal. But I think you're going to either come away feeling you're going to ponder about those themes, or you're going to come away feeling a little bit like, oh, was that it? like Was there not more? Like, I wanted more from that. 00:49:39.10 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:39.12 Chris Olson ah 00:49:40.07 Brian Penn yeah 00:49:40.18 Chris Olson So, yeah, depending on which side you land, I think will determine how much you enjoy the film. 00:49:43.00 Brian Penn and um I mean, I i would say ah I came away wanting more. Whenever I see a short film, flat if I finish the film and I think, you know, that feels a bit like a trailer, right? If I think that it feels like a trailer, there's kind of feature-length potential there. And that tells me I want to see more. 00:50:04.12 Brian Penn But with some short films, you think that's it, it's done sort of thing, you know. But that has something more to it. There's there's there's more... it's more It's much meatier because of the way it's been filmed. 00:50:14.71 Brian Penn And I take your point about it being rushed, but I suppose that in a 10-minute time frame, right, they, as I said earlier on, they can't necessarily hang about. 00:50:25.40 Brian Penn But I think that is probably integral to the story they're telling, is that this man at the centre of the story is trying to justify his place in the afterlife. 00:50:37.92 Brian Penn You know, is it going to be down there or is it going to be up there? So, in some ways it is a rush. He wants to justify himself. So I think that's part, that I think that was intentional myself. 00:50:50.13 Chris Olson Yeah, and absolutely. yeah I think you someone like this filmmaker, Michael Cook, he's done enough films now to not yeah rush what he wants. 00:51:00.15 Chris Olson But sometimes it can be you things outside their control, you know, actors had limited days or whatever it is. 00:51:00.36 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:51:05.84 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:51:06.44 Chris Olson um i just All I can say is how I felt like when I left. I was like, oh, okay, that's a shame that that's finished. 00:51:11.33 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:51:12.19 Chris Olson Yeah. 00:51:12.63 Brian Penn No, no. Yeah. 00:51:13.75 Chris Olson But yeah, as I said, I think it's a good thing, really. So the film's called Up Down, and Michael Cook has an Instagram, which is Michael underscore Cook with an E ah underscore official. 00:51:16.70 Brian Penn yeah 00:51:24.88 Chris Olson um You can also probably find him on our socials where we've tagged the film and XYZ. ah Go read ah James's review. He also really enjoyed the film and he had some very eloquent things to say. 00:51:35.96 Chris Olson And yeah, let us know if you get to see it. I think the film we were given was unlisted on YouTube, so it's not available far as I'm aware. But that may change because often when it's on a YouTube link, it might mean they just make it public. So stay tuned. 00:51:50.25 Chris Olson Moving on now to a documentary um from filmmaker Solon Solomon ah called Migrating Fears. And in what I think is possibly a very first, I have a theme tune song for a documentary. 00:52:03.59 Brian Penn Oh, ah okay, yeah. 00:52:05.04 Chris Olson um I'm going to play a bit of it. 00:52:05.88 Brian Penn and 00:52:06.56 Chris Olson i'm not trying to play a bit it. I'll play a bit of it now. 00:53:22.65 Chris Olson It's very rare that we get to play music on the show. I was swaying there a little bit with it. 00:53:25.22 Brian Penn Yeah. and I liked it, actually. 00:53:27.43 Chris Olson Yeah, it's got a bit of tune. 00:53:28.10 Brian Penn i And Solon Solomon, I think he wrote the song as well, didn't he? 00:53:32.11 Chris Olson He did, yeah. so I asked him for a and clip from the film, like I do for everyone, and he said he didn't really have a clip, but he liked the the some of the songs to be played out because, as say, he wrote it ah for the film. 00:53:32.94 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:53:36.45 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:53:42.90 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:53:44.29 Chris Olson It's um very unusual for a documentary to have a song, but hey, it's all gravy. um 00:53:49.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:53:50.65 Chris Olson Migrating Fears is a documentary all about the fear ah in the UK surrounding immigration and... obviously a hot topic right now. 00:54:01.52 Chris Olson it it feels like it's always a hot topic, to be honest. 00:54:03.16 Brian Penn yeah 00:54:03.51 Chris Olson I don't think you'd ever find a year where we went, oh no, no one cared about it that year. 00:54:04.46 Brian Penn yeah aye Yeah, know. 00:54:07.67 Chris Olson um um But yeah, it's ah it' it's a documentary about that and it's got the, it opens with that song and a lot of the film has, well, a lot of the opening of the film has, the filmmaker Solon actually talking about people that he's going to make this documentary, and he interviews people about that. 00:54:26.09 Brian Penn Hmm. 00:54:27.39 Chris Olson And then later on, we get more of a kind of traditional talking head kind of approach to people in the fields, talking about various aspects. 00:54:31.65 Brian Penn Hmm. 00:54:35.81 Chris Olson Lots of things come up, such as Brexit and you so housing and and and all these things. Talking... 00:54:41.81 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:54:43.11 Chris Olson i'm not to I'm not displaying, I think you should watch this film. It's actually very, very interesting. 00:54:46.66 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:54:48.01 Chris Olson I've got a lot it because he's talking not just about what's happening right now. 00:54:48.42 Brian Penn No. 00:54:50.88 Chris Olson It's talking about England's kind of historic attitudes to migration and and how that has changed. And the fact that obviously we're an island, there's always been lots of, fear about yeah people coming over, um but also how important migration has been to the success of the country. um And yeah, it goes through about that. 00:55:12.00 Chris Olson There's some really, really powerful bits, like asylum seekers and refugees giving their kind of powerful stories. What did you think of migrating fears, Brian? 00:55:19.12 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:55:21.12 Chris Olson Yeah. 00:55:21.57 Brian Penn Very interesting. You know, it provides a an excellent posted history of migrations to the UK. And it hits all the right marks because it touches on colonialism, the empire, hugenitis, fleeing persecution, wind rush, Russian Jews, fleeing persecution. You know, it does all of that really well. 00:55:42.08 Brian Penn But for me, it only really gets going about halfway through. 00:55:46.07 Chris Olson Yep. 00:55:46.17 Brian Penn when it becomes more of a conventional talking heads documentary, as you just alluded to um when I start interviewing politicians like Margaret Hodge and Lord Alton and Lord Lilly, then you get, you know, as a viewer, you get more clarity in what the issues are. um Not easy to reach any conclusions where, where ah migration is concerned. 00:56:07.31 Brian Penn Cause as you say, it's, it's always going to be a hot potato. It always has been. It always will be, you know, there are so many moving parts, aren't they, to, to the, the issue. um So i don't think it's easy to tie it up, really, but but it it kind of opens the viewer's mind to what the history is and how important immigration has been to the UK. And in fact, to every country when you think about it, ah but particularly to ourselves. I mean, we're all immigrants, aren't we? 00:56:38.42 Brian Penn You know, i mean, even, you know, the ancient Britons were descended from the Norsemen and the Picts and the Anglo-Saxons. So we're all ultimately immigrants and we're all building blocks as part of one great nationality. 00:56:54.05 Brian Penn That's what I get from it, you know. So i think in that way, it's very interesting. But, you know, the problem with a documentary of this kind is that you can't really draw it any proper any real conclusions because it's still ongoing, if you see what I'm saying, you know. 00:57:11.13 Chris Olson Yeah, I think, you and the best documentaries, they're not there to sort of provide a final answer to anything. 00:57:14.76 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 00:57:16.30 Chris Olson It's more just shining a light. And I 100% agree. Listeners, you won't know this, but me and Brian don't actually confer before we go on the podcast. We just come on here and and say what we think. 00:57:23.47 Brian Penn Yeah. not yeah yeah 00:57:26.53 Chris Olson And I thought he was just nodding along to Brian's movie because like, yeah, felt the exact same way, which was... the first half of the film, or at least the first section, is ah Solomon actually in the film. 00:57:37.68 Chris Olson He's in the film a lot, and they're creating these kind of almost like fictional scenes of him talking about setting up the documentary and what he's going to do and making a film. 00:57:38.53 Brian Penn yeah 00:57:42.10 Brian Penn yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. 00:57:46.07 Chris Olson And you have that song playing as well, which I think isolated the song is fine, but over the top of the documentary, is very heavy-handed. 00:57:48.22 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:57:53.92 Chris Olson and It comes across... 00:57:54.18 Brian Penn yeah 00:57:55.65 Chris Olson like a big punch in the face um to to sort of try and get your attention. And I think that is the biggest misstep of this film, unfortunately. 00:58:03.92 Brian Penn and 00:58:04.43 Chris Olson I think it is that the filmmaker put too much of himself into the movie and didn't let the good stuff which was there just have more breathing room. 00:58:08.13 Brian Penn yeah and 00:58:11.38 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:13.16 Chris Olson Because as Brian said... 00:58:13.41 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:14.27 Chris Olson A lot of the talking head stuff was very fascinating. A lot of the, there was like archive footage. 00:58:17.08 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:58:19.42 Chris Olson There was a bit of animation at one point. 00:58:21.40 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:58:21.44 Chris Olson That stuff worked really well. I think that that was a great movie. 00:58:22.95 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:58:24.64 Chris Olson And I think that yeah the strength of Migrating Fears is the the yeah the history and the evidence and the you know the stuff that we're talking about and raising really sort of potent themes in a way that is quite, 00:58:32.01 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:35.78 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:37.79 Chris Olson disarming I think it's not trying to be volatile or hostile. It's not trying to point loads of fingers everywhere. 00:58:42.17 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:43.77 Chris Olson I think it's sort of raising interesting aspects. I think it is largely a positive story about migration. 00:58:48.97 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:49.37 Chris Olson um I think that's fair to say. 00:58:51.11 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:51.30 Chris Olson But that's when it's at its best, when it's doing that stuff. I think it needs to learn from that and go, OK, right, yeah that works. 00:58:56.65 Brian Penn yeah 00:58:58.05 Chris Olson If you're going to do a story, a film like this again, it needs to be less about the person making it and more about the subject matter. 00:59:04.28 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:59:05.41 Chris Olson and because it seems well-intentioned just at times it's awkward and it's dry and it's like right okay but can we get back to like the stuff about why we're here yeah 00:59:05.46 Brian Penn ah Yeah. yeah 00:59:12.74 Brian Penn yeah Yeah. I mean, the at the beginning, the conversations he had with the yeah the Tasmanian lady at the beginning where they were chatting, That put him in a position where he had to act. 00:59:23.52 Brian Penn And with a great respect, he's not an actor. You know, he's yeah he's a lawyer, he's an academic, he's a lecturer, and he's very well qualified and very good at it, obviously. 00:59:26.04 Chris Olson it was cringe-worthy I have to be honest yeah 00:59:33.29 Brian Penn like But it may it put him in a position where he had to act. And that's you can tell that's not his fault, though. right And it would have been better, I think, to have started off with with a conventional documentary format, which is what they got into a bit later. 00:59:50.14 Brian Penn But even so, nothing wrong with the content. The content's fine. 00:59:54.98 Chris Olson And I think if you're going to inject yourself into a film, yeah if you want to do that, if there's a reason for you to do that, if you're a historian, yeah you want to bring your... 00:59:55.26 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:00:03.52 Chris Olson Maybe you've written a book. yeah whatever Whatever it is, maybe you want to bring attention to it. 01:00:05.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:00:06.80 Chris Olson I think there's other ways of doing it. I don't think you need to do it in that way where it feels like, you say, it's he's clearly not that comfortable even doing it. 01:00:08.37 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:00:14.40 Brian Penn a 01:00:14.56 Chris Olson It felt but how quite awkward. And this is one of the things that I don't like in a lot of films when people are the director and the writer and they're the star, it can be very dangerous. 01:00:16.98 Brian Penn yeah 01:00:22.58 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 01:00:24.90 Chris Olson I mean, unlike ah the Michael Cook film we talked about Up Down, I thought his performance was great. 01:00:25.64 Brian Penn and Yeah. 01:00:30.06 Chris Olson And even though he's the one yeah with the big credits, 01:00:32.89 Brian Penn yeah 01:00:33.37 Chris Olson It's fine. Someone must have said to him, you know, giving him notes, giving him, OK, this needs this, you need that. I think here that didn't happen. I don't think there was any kind of like feedback going on. This is actually quite awkward um because and i what i think it's a big shame. 01:00:48.39 Chris Olson I'm glad we're able to review migrating fears is because a lot of people are probably going to give up after that first section and go, oh what's going on here? 01:00:50.19 Brian Penn yeah 01:00:55.38 Brian Penn yeah 01:00:55.79 Chris Olson it's Obviously, we we're going to watch the whole thing. And the second half is so great. It's really interesting. 01:01:00.52 Brian Penn yeah 01:01:01.35 Chris Olson There's lots of things to come away. Of of all the films, the indie films we reviewed, I wrote more notes about this one than I did about anything else because I was like oh, that's fascinating. 01:01:07.65 Brian Penn yeah yeah no but it it gets it gets its point across eventually but as you say i mean you 01:01:08.39 Chris Olson know That's interesting. you know I think the content there is really, really great. I just think the execution at times was poorly chosen. That's all. 01:01:22.93 Brian Penn the film The film lasts for, what, an hour, one hour, 12 minutes or something like that, isn't it? 01:01:26.89 Chris Olson Something like that, yeah. 01:01:27.76 Brian Penn Yeah. And because of the way it starts, you know, it may not hold people's interest, right? So they should have got into the meat of the the matter a lot sooner. 01:01:42.35 Brian Penn And they could have probably done without that that opening segment. That could have been just a more conventional, you approach to making a documentary and just to set out with just some talking head interviews to begin with as well because that's what it is. It's it's a serious documentary, isn't it? 01:02:02.84 Chris Olson Absolutely. um 01:02:03.86 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:02:04.52 Chris Olson The film Migrating Fears, I believe, is available on Fawesome TV, which is F-A-W-E-S-O-M-E.TV. 01:02:10.89 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:02:13.16 Chris Olson ah Whether or not it stays on there or not, I'm not sure. um I've not heard of that platform really before. 01:02:16.15 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:02:17.93 Chris Olson It was fine to watch this when when I watched it. 01:02:18.39 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:02:20.41 Chris Olson So yeah, if you can go and see it, as said, and it raises loads of interesting things. I think if you're 01:02:26.85 Brian Penn Yeah, 01:02:26.99 Chris Olson someone that has an interest in English history, in politics, yeah obviously see all that stuff. I think there's so much great content there. 01:02:33.98 Brian Penn yeah definitely. Hmm. 01:02:34.42 Chris Olson i'm 01:02:34.45 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:02:35.11 Chris Olson Yeah, and let us know if you do watch it. And also, Jason reviewed it, i think, on the website. Yeah, so go and read Jason's review. He's very positive about it. He he really likes that that sort of stuff. So, yeah, good stuff. 01:02:46.49 Brian Penn and 01:02:46.50 Chris Olson um Also, let me just check if there's any socials. Yeah, I don't think there was actually any social media for this. So, yeah, probably just look at that foursome TV if you do want to find out more. 01:02:56.71 Brian Penn Mmm. 01:02:57.69 Chris Olson Moving on to an indie feature film from Sayun Jiang called Nictophobia. um Chris Buick reviewed this on the on the website if you want to read that. 01:03:08.20 Chris Olson And yeah, it's an experimental feature. um Lots of interesting use of black and white colour here, but it's all primarily about the central character of Liz, who has a ah fear of the dark and her whole attempts to try and get to sleep something I sympathize with massively as the father of two children uh two young children I must say and yeah it has a very kind of dreamlike quality to it um there's sort strange scenes and visuals and like I color like colors popping out sometimes uh what did you think of this Brian? 01:03:28.02 Brian Penn yeah 01:03:42.78 Brian Penn I liked it. I thought it was very good. You know, the you can't argue with the artistic integrity of this film. There's not much in the way of a script, is there, for really honest. So it's all visuals. But they were very arresting sites. And we can all relate to someone, know, 01:03:58.49 Brian Penn I'll be honest with you, Chris. I never knew that nyctophobia was a fear of darkness. I know about a fear of darkness, but I never knew it was called nyctophobia. 01:04:07.01 Chris Olson There you go 01:04:07.22 Brian Penn I never knew that. God, I'm ignorant, aren't I? But there you go. Anyway, so I've learned something I've learned, right? um But the sequencing with was excellent. Now, we were talking about the length of tiny little voices, weren't we, that it was two hours long and a little bit too long. 01:04:23.33 Brian Penn And this is 90 minutes. And The first thing I thought was, how are they going to sustain visuals for 90 minutes and keep you interested? But they do. I think they it it keeps you engaged, which I think is quite an achievement because the imagery is quite powerful. And I love the different sections. you know i mean, you imagine that these are, you know she's trying to fall off. She's trying to get to sleep. 01:04:47.53 Brian Penn And the metronome, she's trying all kinds of techniques to get her off to sleep with the metronome and all the rest of it. right But this is her. I think, trying to focus and concentrate and relax and finally fall off to sleep. 01:05:01.82 Brian Penn But there were some quite interesting images there. a love the disco section as well. 01:05:05.36 Chris Olson Yeah, 01:05:05.53 Brian Penn and That was really well done. I like that. But other parts of it were quite alarming, particularly with with the clowns as well. 01:05:14.34 Chris Olson yeah I think it's playing on some of the sort of like classic themes of like nightmares and horror, right? 01:05:21.49 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:05:21.88 Chris Olson So it's like that whole idea of yeah clowns. I've got a place that everyone hates, right? and And I think it's that sort of... 01:05:28.49 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 01:05:30.45 Chris Olson um yeah's going through the idea of like how people try and get to sleep and some of the reasons why they maybe they can't. 01:05:37.49 Brian Penn yeah 01:05:37.63 Chris Olson um I think it's got that kind of universal appeal because it is a bit of a of an art piece. 01:05:41.09 Brian Penn and Yeah. 01:05:43.27 Chris Olson And it's quite, let's say the visuals are so arresting and and so is everything to it. 01:05:47.69 Brian Penn Oh, really? um 01:05:48.83 Chris Olson Like the score and the sound, it's got a very chilling kind of atmosphere throughout. 01:05:49.21 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:05:53.71 Chris Olson And I think people are going to connect with that on a level of, okay, this is something based that everyone has to go through. The idea that you're being tormented almost, you you can't sleep. um I think there's certain scenes which go on a bit longer than they need to. 01:06:09.03 Chris Olson There's a scene where she sings, i think there's a song, idea. 01:06:09.44 Brian Penn e 01:06:13.39 Brian Penn Yeah, that jazz thing, wasn't it? 01:06:13.46 Chris Olson ah 01:06:15.15 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. yes 01:06:16.06 Chris Olson i think they sort of... and then Actually, you mentioned the disco scene, but I i thought that actually was great, but it again, went on too long. as ah We need to move on now. 01:06:22.47 Brian Penn yeah 01:06:24.28 Chris Olson i umm 01:06:24.37 Brian Penn yeah 01:06:25.32 Chris Olson Because... there there was a lot of potency to the scenes and it felt like oh, wow, that's really interesting. But I think by moving on a bit quicker, you keep that going, you keep that intrigue going. 01:06:35.92 Chris Olson Whereas I think once it started to labour a bit longer, there was a sense of, like okay, yeah now I actually feel like I am getting in that. 01:06:36.33 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:06:43.19 Chris Olson And I think it's probably done purposefully like to try and elicit, okay, yeah, I've got a reaction from you because... 01:06:47.08 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:06:50.57 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:06:50.75 Chris Olson you know you're meant to find that maybe a bit tedious or you're meant to find that frustrating, you know like the character does. 01:06:54.60 Brian Penn But. Yeah. 01:06:57.04 Chris Olson But from a viewing point of view, I don't think it's necessarily going to be i'm as thrilling. 01:06:59.18 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:07:01.30 Chris Olson I think it loses momentum ah because of that. 01:07:03.31 Brian Penn yeah 01:07:04.12 Chris Olson But fans of horror and experimental cinema, you're going to love this. 01:07:05.45 Brian Penn Yeah. um Yeah. 01:07:07.77 Chris Olson It's got like this nightmarish chaos to it that is going to be enthralling. 01:07:08.16 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah 01:07:13.81 Brian Penn No, it is. Look, it's very well put together. it's for You know, all the in the indies that we've reviewed on this particular show, like all the shows we do, you know, are all very good. They're very well put together. 01:07:25.39 Brian Penn Bearing in mind they have a limited budget and they almost they're they're indie films that don't seem to have an indie budget. then you know, they look like They've had more money to spend than they've really got. And that's a skill in itself, isn't it? 01:07:37.84 Brian Penn It's to make it look like it's a big budget film when it's not. um But it with regard to the timing of of different scenes, and they go on for a bit too long, you're right, they do. 01:07:49.58 Brian Penn I think they do go on for too long. But this is where you have time available. You think, if you're a filmmaker, if you're director, you think, how do I fill that time? How do I fill that space? I mean, am I filling that space for the sake of it? 01:08:02.13 Brian Penn and making a scene longer than it should be? Or am I putting something integral in there that gives more meaning to the story? It's all about the narrative. And if it's not doing anything for the story, then it shouldn't be in there. 01:08:14.11 Brian Penn Again, it's down to editing, isn't it? 01:08:16.60 Chris Olson And I think there's definitely, yeah, definitely. edit seen this is is We've mentioned it, I think, for most of the films tonight. 01:08:22.10 Brian Penn Oh, yeah. 01:08:22.69 Chris Olson It is a sense of, often with indie films, they're more susceptible to this because there are less people involved. And it's often, know, it's a balance, right? Because some of the big studio films, 01:08:34.83 Chris Olson yeah the execs come in and they do their tampering and and tinkering and they cut and they spoil just as you much as the opposite happens. 01:08:39.59 Brian Penn Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. 01:08:43.25 Chris Olson But think with indie films, often because they are sometimes the products completely of the filmmaker, yeah whoever wrote the story or directed it, if they're that ah one person thing, they're going to leave it as like untouched as possible because that's their vision for it And that's absolutely fine. 01:08:59.75 Chris Olson I think sometimes the reason why film works really well is because it's a collaborative effort, because there are often, you know, many, many ah people there. 01:09:04.56 Brian Penn and 01:09:07.40 Chris Olson And the editing is such an unsung hero of filmmaking because that's the shaping of the story, right? 01:09:11.32 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:09:15.22 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:09:15.28 Chris Olson That's the, okay, but how do we get from the beginning to the end in the best possible journey that's going to get the best possible reaction for the most amount of people? 01:09:21.41 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah 01:09:23.47 Chris Olson um If that is your ambition, it might not be. And I think with experimental cinema, there is definitely a case that sometimes filmmakers are just doing something to make a point or they're doing something to see, you know, test endurance or whatever it is. 01:09:35.41 Brian Penn yeah 01:09:36.37 Chris Olson ah ah And that's absolutely fine too. and Because like I said here, they are playing on things which people ah going to connect to in a sort of cliche way of like, okay, so we've got clowns, we mentioned you exams, I think one point she's just sitting in exam, they're singing in public. 01:09:44.70 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 01:09:49.57 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah, that 01:09:52.81 Chris Olson These things yeah that are playing on the human condition, yeah these things which are typically worrying. 01:09:56.29 Brian Penn was and 01:09:59.71 Chris Olson I think that there's a strong possibility that there's a reason why these films, these scenes are a bit longer. Um, I just want to also mention there's a really cool scene where she's playing Tetris in the air and that was brilliant. 01:10:11.69 Chris Olson I really enjoyed that scene. 01:10:12.09 Brian Penn yeah yeah that was 01:10:13.35 Chris Olson Um, it was so smart and was so clever. 01:10:16.08 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:10:16.19 Chris Olson um it's just, it's little things like that, which show me this filmmaker has a lot of promise. And I think I'm right in saying their debut. 01:10:21.60 Brian Penn Yeah, definitely. um Absolutely. 01:10:24.88 Chris Olson So say you and John, um, Yeah, massive congratulations. 01:10:29.16 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:10:29.58 Chris Olson I think it's it's got... 01:10:29.83 Brian Penn Yeah, that's 01:10:31.65 Chris Olson Actually, might not be a debut, but if it's if it is either way, it's very impressive. 01:10:34.29 Brian Penn good. 01:10:37.74 Chris Olson I don't think it's for everyone. 01:10:38.57 Brian Penn And 01:10:39.18 Chris Olson This is absolutely a Marmite type of film. I don't think everyone's going watch and go, oh yeah, i loved it. But I think for those who enjoy a bit more of a challenging piece of cinema, it's there. 01:10:49.38 Chris Olson But it would also have a connection for a lot of people in terms of you know tapping into your fears and sleepless nights and things like that. 01:10:55.39 Brian Penn and think we can all relate to it. I mean, you know, we've all had issues with sleep over the years, haven't we, for one reason or another. 01:11:04.79 Chris Olson I've had an issue with clowns and not to mention my mother twice in one episode, but I'm going to, is that she in our house when were growing up had this artwork on the wall, which was clowns. 01:11:14.31 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:11:15.05 Chris Olson These they were clowns, right? 01:11:16.82 Brian Penn yeah 01:11:17.32 Chris Olson i And it was meant to be like arty, but they were terrifying, honestly. And one night i remember my brother saying, oh should should we see if we can get them removed from your room? I was like, ah yes, please. 01:11:27.67 Chris Olson Like, I don't know why they're there. 01:11:28.04 Brian Penn hu 01:11:29.35 Chris Olson Why are they here? There's no connection. and they were like, oh i didn't think you'd find that scary. It's like, It's terrifying. Why would you put clowns on the wall? 01:11:34.33 Brian Penn and I wonder why that is, though, that clowns can be quite scary. 01:11:36.35 Chris Olson Mad. 01:11:40.03 Brian Penn I mean, they they should be happy characters, shouldn't they? They make people smile. 01:11:44.82 Chris Olson Yeah, Stephen King ruined it all, really, didn't he? 01:11:47.80 Brian Penn it's got thought It's got a lot to answer for, hasn't it? 01:11:49.24 Chris Olson He's got a lot to answer. for And not just that. 01:11:51.46 Brian Penn I know. 01:11:51.62 Chris Olson and But don't get me started. 01:11:51.72 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:11:52.91 Chris Olson No, I love Stephen King. So Nyctophobia is available on Plex TV, um which is where we watched it. ah It's a free platform. So absolutely yeah hats off to filmmakers putting their films there. 01:12:05.95 Chris Olson One thing that viewers will have to be aware of is you will have to put up with quite a lot of adverts. 01:12:06.30 Brian Penn ye 01:12:10.88 Brian Penn Oh, yeah. 01:12:10.94 Chris Olson They kick in like every 10 minutes. 01:12:11.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:12.90 Chris Olson it's like, oh, here we go 01:12:13.13 Brian Penn I know. I meant some internet earlier on yeah 01:12:14.85 Chris Olson And they tell you that it says like six adverts or something. like, all right, go make cup of tea then. 01:12:17.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:19.29 Chris Olson Come back. 01:12:19.57 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:20.53 Chris Olson And i think I think with a film like this, it totally disturbed the momentum. 01:12:20.59 Brian Penn You can't fast forward it either, can you? You can't. 01:12:25.44 Chris Olson And I know why filmmakers do. 01:12:25.71 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:27.00 Chris Olson i'm not absolutely I'm not having a go at them at all. I know what they have to do to survive. 01:12:28.98 Brian Penn No. 01:12:30.56 Chris Olson It's just absolutely... 01:12:30.87 Brian Penn That's the commercial reality, isn't it, really? 01:12:32.12 Chris Olson It is. It really is. 01:12:32.47 Brian Penn like 01:12:33.50 Chris Olson But if this was available on like YouTube or something without ads, I would say go there. 01:12:36.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:37.48 Chris Olson But it's... yeah 01:12:38.08 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:12:38.63 Chris Olson go Go watch this and you support the film because they'll hopefully get a bit of money from it. and 01:12:42.22 Brian Penn yeah 01:12:42.85 Chris Olson But yeah, just be aware there's ads. The film also has an Instagram profile, which is film underscore nyctophobia. And you can read our review, which was done by Chris Buick on the website ah by going there. 01:12:55.27 Chris Olson And yeah, why not do it? Unless you're scared of clowns. 01:12:59.35 Brian Penn ah Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. 01:13:02.12 Chris Olson ah Which most people are. 01:13:04.22 Brian Penn Nice people are, yeah, and I know. 01:13:05.05 Chris Olson Most people aren't, Mum. God. 01:13:06.67 Brian Penn Universal, isn't it, really? 01:13:07.64 Chris Olson yeah 01:13:08.52 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:13:08.93 Chris Olson um Other things that are universal are our love of dinosaur films, which is if you're wondering what our nostalgia pick is. 01:13:13.57 Brian Penn Oh, yes. Yeah. 01:13:16.98 Chris Olson and da a um I'm not to do any more than that case we get sued. 01:13:19.50 Brian Penn yeah 01:13:22.56 Chris Olson um 01:13:22.63 Brian Penn yeah Yeah, you never know, do 01:13:23.87 Chris Olson You never know. they haven't got enough money, have they, these people? 01:13:26.82 Brian Penn No, of course not. 01:13:27.34 Chris Olson um 01:13:27.56 Brian Penn don't know how they get by, do you? 01:13:29.37 Chris Olson Yeah, very difficult. 01:13:30.24 Brian Penn do they manage? 01:13:31.56 Chris Olson and Jurassic Park, a classic film from 1993, currently available to watch on ITV. 01:13:34.72 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:13:36.94 Chris Olson i'm not sure if it's still available there. um We are not affiliated with any of these platforms, by the way. and We just give them a shout out. um If you don't know what Jurassic Park is about, And that I, before I would be kind of sort of, how could you not? 01:13:50.97 Chris Olson Um, but actually I realized that is a long time ago, isn't it? 01:13:53.83 Brian Penn Oh, it nice to see it. 01:13:54.39 Chris Olson That's a very long time ago. um 01:13:56.09 Brian Penn I didn't think it was long ago actually, to be honest. 01:13:58.04 Chris Olson Yeah, it's a Steven Spielberg film, and it's about ah this creation of an island park where they have been able to bring back cloned versions of dinosaurs and using it mosquitoes in magma, I think. 01:14:15.43 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah, inamba, what's that? 01:14:16.23 Chris Olson Yeah, the blood. So yeah that was it yeah so they suck the blood of dinosaurs. 01:14:18.57 Brian Penn Inamba, yeah. 01:14:20.54 Chris Olson They're preserved in the magma. 01:14:20.78 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:14:21.78 Chris Olson They were able to bring them back. 01:14:22.77 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:14:23.13 Chris Olson And basically they have to bring in um a few experts in the field to sign off on the safety of the park because the investors are getting a bit skittish after someone is grisly eaten near the beginning of the film. 01:14:28.74 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:14:36.31 Brian Penn a yeah 01:14:38.02 Chris Olson um Sam Neill and Laura Dern star as two of those people coming, as well as... the absolute classic legend that is Jeff Goldblum rocking up in what is, this is for me definitive Jeff Goldblum because this was, I think the first film I saw him in and became aware of him. 01:14:46.91 Brian Penn He 01:14:51.70 Brian Penn was great, wasn't he? 01:14:55.33 Chris Olson And then it was independence day. I think later that I saw him in, but it's got incredible class. 01:14:57.50 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 01:14:59.83 Chris Olson You've got Richard Attenborough, who's the park owner. um 01:15:02.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:15:03.99 Chris Olson Even Samuel Jackson is in this film. 01:15:05.40 Brian Penn yeah he turns like He's in the control centre, isn't he, Samuel Jasmin? 01:15:07.70 Chris Olson he's i mean When I saw him, was like, oh my gosh, how did you not get a bigger role in this? 01:15:09.66 Brian Penn Yeah. and I know. 01:15:12.09 Chris Olson Yeah. 01:15:12.95 Brian Penn But, I mean, 01:15:13.05 Chris Olson um yeah 01:15:14.08 Brian Penn You can't imagine him not being a star, can you, Samuel Jackson? 01:15:16.33 Chris Olson No. 01:15:16.64 Brian Penn You can't imagine him just being a a support, which is all he was in this film at the time. 01:15:21.69 Chris Olson Yeah. 01:15:22.43 Brian Penn You know, and he he was it was kind of on the fringes for so long, wasn't he? He was like Denzel Washington. You know, you catch him on the fringes and there'd be films here and there. But I think soon after this, he broke really big, didn't he? 01:15:35.63 Chris Olson Well, interesting, something like Sam Neill, right? 01:15:35.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:15:37.56 Chris Olson He was this big person in this film, right? But I don't think he became such a big star after this. 01:15:41.03 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:15:43.93 Brian Penn No, not really. 01:15:44.08 Chris Olson i don't yeah I've seen him in a few things, but nothing kind of major. 01:15:46.37 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:15:47.76 Chris Olson um Obviously, they brought him back for the when they rebooted it, but... 01:15:50.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:15:51.21 Chris Olson um Yeah, matt incredible cast. But I think one thing about Jurassic Park, which is why I would be surprised if not at least seen or heard something, simply because of the magnitude of merchandise that's available. 01:16:04.53 Brian Penn Oh, yeah, I know. 01:16:04.59 Chris Olson Jurassic Park is on T-shirts, on everything. 01:16:06.59 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:06.82 Chris Olson um You know, that that classic red and black logo and with the words across mouth. 01:16:10.56 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:12.10 Chris Olson It is just everywhere. And one thing I think back to with this film... 01:16:13.80 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:17.20 Chris Olson is this was probably the first cinematic experience I had where I was absolutely changed by it because I was quite young when this came out and I went to see it with my family and I remember being utterly, utterly terrified. 01:16:28.43 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:32.79 Chris Olson Like you were saying about the your your reaction to the new one. 01:16:32.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:35.70 Brian Penn know. 01:16:35.88 Chris Olson you and you're You're an older man. 01:16:36.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:37.84 Chris Olson It's like, you're not yeah i I must have been about... 01:16:38.28 Brian Penn I know. 01:16:40.80 Chris Olson seven I think or something when this came out and or not even that and I was utter I mean I was way too young to see this to be honest but it absolutely terrified me and I watching it back and you you talked about this a bit earlier about whether ah yeah the new film broke us into that horror genre but for me this absolutely was a horror film because of just the age I saw it but also when you watch it does there's a lot of scenes that are scary you know yeah the trembling cup of water and 01:16:41.60 Brian Penn yeah i 01:16:47.80 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:51.04 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:54.87 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:16:57.39 Brian Penn know. know. Yeah. 01:17:00.71 Brian Penn yeah 01:17:05.72 Brian Penn sad 01:17:09.31 Brian Penn ah no 01:17:09.75 Chris Olson um all this stuff. 01:17:10.02 Brian Penn and i 01:17:10.93 Chris Olson It is just brilliant. And I think it's one of those films, it's pure cinema. like you You go to see this in a cinema, it's it's it's exactly what you want to see. 01:17:22.33 Chris Olson The big spectacle, great characters, it's funny, it's scary, it's heartwarming. 01:17:22.35 Brian Penn Yeah. i mean 01:17:27.60 Chris Olson Even though you've got these two kids that they end up having to look after, it creates that heart, that moment of peril. 01:17:28.00 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:17:31.08 Brian Penn Yeah. Well, yeah. 01:17:33.29 Chris Olson you they they They're suddenly thrust into this role of guardians, looking after these kids amongst all these incredible... 01:17:37.95 Brian Penn I know. and yeah um 01:17:39.74 Chris Olson ah yeah And practical effects, right? And loads of practical effects. 01:17:43.31 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:17:43.46 Chris Olson It's just brilliant. It's jaw-droppingly brilliant still. 01:17:44.81 Brian Penn I know. It's a classic for me. It's a modern classic and it changed all the rules, you know, It shifted the goalposts. showed filmmakers what's possible, what you can achieve because there'd been nothing like it before Jurassic Park. 01:18:01.12 Brian Penn And I've related this story before on the podcast, but I want to mention it again because when I 01:18:13.55 Chris Olson All right, you cut off there, mate. 01:18:16.60 Brian Penn yeah, so I have to relate this ah story that I've that I've told before on the podcast about when I first saw Jurassic Park when it came out in 93. It was one of only two occasions when I was part of a cinema audience that was a sellout. 01:18:30.66 Brian Penn Every single seat was taken. Every single one. And it's a rare thing, particularly when you've got multiplexes, because there are so many times you can go now. But it was a full house. And the the effects were so jaw-dropping that people were screaming in the audience. 01:18:46.35 Brian Penn People were shouting and screaming at the screen. Just ah in a similar to how I described earlier on when I when i said I darts, this was more magnified than everyone was doing it because people had never seen anything like it before. you know It was so different and so exciting to watch. and this is When Spielberg talks about popcorn movies, a great popcorn movie, this this is this is it. This is the bomb, isn't it? 01:19:13.67 Brian Penn This is what you're looking for. It's something that's jaw-droppingly good. And One thing that struck me, when I watched it again for for this review we're doing here, um I am why and never realised how good the script was. you know Because you're looking at the visuals, and you know the script is really clever. It's very smart. 01:19:33.92 Brian Penn Because ah Jeff Goldblum's character, I think it's Ian Malcolm, he's having an argument with Hammond, the character played by Richard Attenborough, the guy who set it all up. 01:19:45.70 Brian Penn And he's saying, look, What you're doing here takes no discipline. You're standing on the shoulders of giants. You're so impressed by what you've done, you haven't stopped to think about whether you should. you know And Hammond says, well, if I created an island of condors, you'd have nothing to say. 01:20:02.27 Brian Penn And that raises important questions about nature and the ecosystem. you know With the technology available, is it right that we manipulate nature in this way? So it was raising lots of interesting questions about nature about the environment and what we're able to do. 01:20:19.41 Brian Penn But that kind of got lost for me anyway. But so you've got a very intelligent script that's been written there, but you don't necessarily notice it. 01:20:27.23 Chris Olson I think that's the thing with this film. like Having watched it in very different parts of my life, like going from one of my earliest, possibly, no, probably wasn't the first film I saw at the cinema, but definitely one of the earliest ones, i certainly that i remember, to now watching it you know as yeah ah podcast host in my late 30s is like, 01:20:33.75 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:20:38.84 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:20:45.71 Chris Olson is like 01:20:45.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:20:47.15 Chris Olson It's such an incredible film. It's so layered and there's so many aspects that you can enjoy. that i must have It must have been one of those films that you know when parents go to the cinema with their kids, like, oh God, that was a brilliant film to watch. 01:20:56.19 Brian Penn Yeah. i 01:20:57.89 Chris Olson it you actually read yeah Everyone thoroughly enjoyed it because there's so much here. 01:20:59.85 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:21:01.41 Chris Olson And you take different things from it. you and yeah It's pinning on lots of themes because of our environmental impact, right? Not just yeah good and bad, yeah we science and what we do and all those things. 01:21:10.89 Brian Penn yeah 01:21:15.17 Chris Olson But it's also that primeval link that we have to these ancestors who used to be the dominant force. 01:21:19.38 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:21:21.46 Chris Olson It's got so much relevance. Like it's always got relevance. I think that's why it spawns so many more films because it's a story that can just keep being told and and slightly tweaked. to make it more relevant to a modern an audience. 01:21:32.64 Chris Olson But I think the spectacle of it, the film it gives me most kind of connection to is probably Jaws. 01:21:32.95 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:21:39.63 Chris Olson Cause obviously similar for a lot of obvious reasons, but it, yeah, in terms of the actual, 01:21:39.81 Brian Penn Hmm. 01:21:44.03 Brian Penn Some of the vibe, isn't it? Yeah. 01:21:48.63 Chris Olson ah physical predators that we're seeing in the film and the way that they're delivered elicits such a stark reaction from audiences. It creates that whoa moment and that is magic. 01:21:59.13 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 01:22:03.90 Chris Olson That is cinema magic and I think that, like you said, that's why the filmmakers look up to this sort of film. 01:22:07.68 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:22:08.88 Chris Olson Their score helps. I mean, that score is absolutely incredible. 01:22:10.49 Brian Penn who 01:22:12.75 Chris Olson um The cast is brilliant. talked about that. I think It's a film that is like, if you're going to do the, when people hold up the scoreboards at like a recital, it's like 10, 10, 10, like everything is just on the money here. 01:22:25.10 Brian Penn yeah i'm like and i 01:22:27.53 Chris Olson Yeah, it's absolutely perfect. 01:22:29.07 Brian Penn It's an amazing film and its power doesn't diminish at all. Even though we've seen six Jurassic films since then, it's powerful. It still carries that punch. Even though I would imagine that how many people have seen that film at some point in the last 32 years, it's still got that punch. It still doesn't diminish in its impacts. 01:22:53.74 Brian Penn And you realise what a genius, I mean, genius Steven Spielberg is. Really incredible. You know, and I mean, going back to one of your earlier points, though, that, you know, it's quite endearing, quite heartwarming. You know, the characters played by Sam Neill and Laura Dern. 01:23:10.73 Brian Penn They're a married couple. And yeah you notice how they kept on getting trapped with these two kids and she wants to have kids and he doesn't. 01:23:17.25 Chris Olson Yeah. 01:23:17.87 Brian Penn They're being put in a position where he has to look after kids and he he and he starts to de develop up kind of a parental instinct then because he thinks, oh, well maybe, yeah. So that's... It's got a human side as well. 01:23:30.08 Brian Penn you know the And that's quite endearing. And it's clever to mix it in with all the action. Because you you could just look upon it as an action movie. So it's it's as you say, it's multi-layered. It's got so much going on there. 01:23:41.19 Brian Penn And the seeing it once, you don't always catch all the nuances. and Which is why I picked up on the the ecological debate in the script, which you wouldn't necessarily get first time around. 01:23:53.83 Chris Olson Absolutely. And that's why we revisit these films, um these nostalgia picks. 01:23:57.33 Brian Penn Exactly. Yeah. 01:23:59.79 Chris Olson And yeah, that was a really good one. and and I thoroughly enjoyed going back to that. and And after you giving the new one, Film of the Month, that has really, really made me want to go see that. um 01:24:09.37 Brian Penn you love it. 01:24:10.11 Chris Olson Rebirth. 01:24:10.18 Brian Penn You will love it. You will love it. 01:24:12.43 Chris Olson So, yeah, that's been our episode ah for this month. Thoroughly entertaining and very varied. yeah We've reviewed films across the spectrum. I hope you enjoyed them. And big thank you to the filmmakers who send us their movies, as always. 01:24:26.36 Chris Olson Big thank you to Brian for going to the cinema, braving the outdoor world in this post-pandemic life that we have. 01:24:31.43 Brian Penn Yeah, know, yeah. Yeah, I'm a brave little soldier, aren't I, really? 01:24:33.45 Chris Olson um You know... You are really. 01:24:36.32 Brian Penn Yeah. 01:24:36.44 Chris Olson um But I don't like to sort of brag about it really for you too much. I don't want you getting a big head. I don't want you feeling that, you know, because otherwise, you know, the demands will start, you know, nightmare. 01:24:45.56 Brian Penn I've got to keep my feet on the ground, I, really? Yeah. 01:24:47.82 Chris Olson um Thank you to everyone um for listening. If you've made it this far, congratulations. You've stuck with us. You know, we talked earlier about running times, but, you know often we run our mouths way too long. 01:24:56.85 Brian Penn Yeah. ah Yeah. 01:24:59.19 Chris Olson um So, yeah, if you made it this far, thank you. And we'll see you again in August. 01:25:04.59 Brian Penn Bye for now. Previous Next

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Available entirely online, Visability Film Festival's inaugural edition includes two concurrent short film programmes - Side A: 'Tooth' and Side B: 'Claw' - as well as additional stand alone Shorts, Features, and an Industry Talks section, for only £5. Available Feb 13th-Feb 28th. Celebrating daring styles & unique voices, our Official Selection features Animation, Documentary, Experimental, Cabaret, Comedy, and much more, catering to seasoned cinephiles and Sunday sofa streamers alike. Our Industry Talks section features: Primetime Emmy and BAFTA winning Sound Editor, Paul Conway, It's A Sin and Small Axe actor, Steve Toussaint, and Scriptwriter and MacFarlane Chard Literary Agent's Assistant, Magdalene Bird. And remember, 50% of profits will be donated to DASH - a disabled led visual arts charity, supporting disability arts practise. Sponsored by Rationale Arts and Frame Light TV Visability Film Festival Available entirely online, Visability Film Festival's inaugural edition includes two concurrent short film programmes - Side A: 'Tooth' and Side B: 'Claw' - as well as additional stand alone Shorts, Features, and an Industry Talks section, for only £5. Available Feb 13th-Feb 28th. Celebrating daring styles & unique voices, our Official Selection features Animation, Documentary, Experimental, Cabaret, Comedy, and much more, catering to seasoned cinephiles and Sunday sofa streamers alike. Our Industry Talks section features: Primetime Emmy and BAFTA winning Sound Editor, Paul Conway, It's A Sin and Small Axe actor, Steve Toussaint, and Scriptwriter and MacFarlane Chard Literary Agent's Assistant, Magdalene Bird. And remember, 50% of profits will be donated to DASH - a disabled led visual arts charity, supporting disability arts practise. Sponsored by Rationale Arts and Frame Light TV SEE MORE FILM FESTIVALS

Read the film podcast transcript from the episode titled Lee - Beetlejuice Beetlejuice - Blink Twice - Alien Romulus - UK Film Club - Ep 19 on UK Film Club part of the UK Film Review Podcast. < Back Lee - Beetlejuice Beetlejuice - Blink Twice - Alien Romulus - UK Film Club - Ep 19 Listen to This Episode UK Film Club 00:00.00 Brian Penn ah you online and um yeah it was very strange but we're there now it's the important thing but then again though I mean how many how many of these shows go without some sort of technical hitch you know a oh okay all right okay 00:12.66 ukfilmreview Well, also tonight I'm actually, I'm quite far behind. like I'm normally well ready, and but tonight i've I've literally jumped on and I'm still loading up the IMDB pages and stuff. So yeah, but no, I'm all good. I'm all good. It was more just my um ah youngest wouldn't go to sleep. She was like, 00:32.26 Brian Penn Something considerate. 00:32.35 ukfilmreview yeah 00:34.65 Brian Penn Did she know that you had to be online? 00:34.93 ukfilmreview yeah yeah she said that she said daddy i know you want to go do your podcast but what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna sit here and i'm gonna just swirl around my bed like a whirlwind um yeah yeah um and she doesn't even listen to the show so you know not a fan not a fan no she's she said you guys waffle on way too much you know 00:36.76 Brian Penn Yeah. 00:40.66 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah 00:45.68 Brian Penn um yeah Joy's a parenthood, eh? Oh, you're joking, really? You can't even rely on your own children to be fans of your own show. What is it coming to? 01:01.94 Brian Penn Well, that is true. We do. probably 01:03.25 ukfilmreview Yeah, you don't get to the films in the first 60 seconds, so I switch off and that's actually quite indicative of a lot of the listeners. 01:07.53 Brian Penn here so Short span of attention, really. I mean, that's what being a child is, but what excuse do the adults have for me? 01:13.62 ukfilmreview and 01:17.10 ukfilmreview exactly and if you are one of the ones who has made it past the first 60 seconds well done um and love to have you here. 01:17.98 Brian Penn yeah 01:24.12 ukfilmreview ah This is UK Film Club with me and Brian um who is chief film critic ah for our theatrical releases and 01:32.25 Brian Penn um 01:36.07 ukfilmreview On our show, and we normally review ah theatrical releases, so that's films that are at the cinema, streaming pic, indie films, and then nostalgia pic. 01:46.53 ukfilmreview In this show, we won't be reviewing any indie films because we already did an absolute jam-packed episode earlier in the month. 01:52.73 Brian Penn Yeah, whoa, it's supposed to be that, yeah. 01:54.24 ukfilmreview it There were six indie films in that episode, so go and listen to that and after this one. 01:56.02 Brian Penn Hmm. Hmm. 02:00.55 ukfilmreview and yeah So in this show, it's all films that are not independent, they are more your blockbuster studio type films. 02:09.14 Brian Penn Yeah. Hmm. 02:09.97 ukfilmreview um And got a good crop here, Brian, quite a good crop, interesting film, some interesting movies here, some original ah stories, and also some 02:14.77 Brian Penn Oh, yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. 02:20.90 ukfilmreview franchise continuations and our ah nostalgia pic so that's a film that we look back on is an absolute favorite of mine I must say um although I do actually prefer the second one which we're not reviewing um 02:23.02 Brian Penn Yeah. 02:26.25 Brian Penn Hmm. 02:33.68 Brian Penn Hmm controversial. 02:39.18 ukfilmreview Yeah, I mean, yeah, we'll get to it. 02:39.65 Brian Penn man 02:41.22 ukfilmreview But it is, um I was talking to my wife, she said, Oh, no, I like the first one. I was like, no No, the second one is where it's at. 02:45.83 Brian Penn Yeah. 02:46.62 ukfilmreview But and I know you're not a big fan, are you of second films? 02:46.90 Brian Penn Yeah. 02:49.67 ukfilmreview Normally, Brian, you normally say it gets worse, right? 02:50.32 Brian Penn No, not normally. Yeah. I know. I know my default position with sequels generally is that they're never is quite as good, but you know, there's the rule can always be broken in my own mind, but it's just that. 03:01.91 Brian Penn You don't have the, um, the impacts of seeing something for the first time, but I mean, we're going to go on to talk about, um, we've got one or two sequels to look at here, haven't we? So, you know, we can examine that in a bit more detail, can't we? 03:11.15 ukfilmreview We have, yeah. 03:15.13 ukfilmreview Not first though, because first, actually, ironically, the film was called Blink Twice. 03:16.77 Brian Penn Um, Oh no. 03:21.16 Brian Penn Oh yeah. 03:22.17 ukfilmreview and So we're gonna we're gonna review that, um and this is from Zoe Kravitz. So Blink Twice, over to you, Brian. 03:26.94 Brian Penn Hmm. Okay then, so this stars Channing Tatum, Naomi Aki, Alia Shawkat, and a host of really nice cameos to look out for here. um So we have Frida and Jess. They are waitresses looking for a break. They meet reach rich tech billionaire, Slater King, at a fundraising gala. Slater invites both women to join him on his private island. They think they fit the jackpot. A free holiday in an island paradise, rubbing shoulders with Slater's showbiz friends. 03:59.43 Brian Penn but not everything is what it seems. Their mobile phones are confiscated when they enter the island, but luxurious meals and mysterious cocktails are a temporary distraction. Soon they experience memory loss and are troubled by workers with the same snake tattoo, and they seem to recognize Frieda and cause her red rabbit. But what exactly is happening here? That's all I dare tell you. You could easily reveal too much of the plot in this film, and I don't want to do that. You need to appreciate the full impact and I have to say it's good, it's very good. 04:32.13 ukfilmreview Is it? It sounds really good. It sounds like a really good idea. 04:38.83 Brian Penn Yeah, absolutely. um Some reviewers have compared it ah to get out the Jordan Peele film with Daniel Kaluuya. I don't think it's quite as good as that. It's certainly in the same ballpark, but it represents a new generation of horror movies, which, let's be honest, used to be a fairly blunt instrument. You know, you knew what you were getting with a horror movie, but um And so they were pretty pretty obvious. 05:01.72 Brian Penn This is more of a psychological thriller. Maybe we should call it psych horror. um But do you know like that? 05:07.16 ukfilmreview Nice, love it. 05:09.19 Brian Penn Do you like that? 05:09.66 ukfilmreview I do. 05:09.71 Brian Penn I was i was thinking about that way and I thought, yeah, sub genre maybe. Anyway, ah there's a disclaimer at the beginning of the film warning people with mental health issues. And I think it's always worth pointing out when you were reviewing a film like this, where they go to the the extent that they put a disclaimer at the beginning. 05:26.30 Brian Penn So yeah, it does have that element to it. but it But it is a very good film, and it's well worth seeing. 05:33.13 ukfilmreview Cause Zuri Kravitz has kind of been quite popular in the last, I'd say last five, 10 years as a as a star, you know, she's been as a cast member. 05:38.39 Brian Penn Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. 05:42.66 ukfilmreview So is this her first film, do you know? Is this, or is this, I'm just gonna have a quick look. 05:45.61 Brian Penn I think it's a first feature, isn't it? I'm not sure. 05:50.18 ukfilmreview Cause I've always been very impressed by her in terms of her acting abilities, but I never knew that she had a kind of a penchant for, direct yeah, director of only one film. 05:52.70 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 05:59.71 Brian Penn Yeah, course was a plusful yeah, 05:59.89 ukfilmreview um And yeah, obviously it's an original idea. it's a It's not a safe bet, is it? You're trying to tell a story like this. 06:07.17 Brian Penn no 06:08.62 ukfilmreview And and I think, you know, after you seem quite positive about it in terms of your review, I think I've seen some good reviews for Blink twice. So yeah, it it seems that one of those films that's, it'll probably go under the radar, do you think? 06:20.51 Brian Penn yeah I think that's probably the danger for a film like this is that it's not going to get the attention it really deserves. You know, you ah I mean, Channing Tatum is a, is a kind of a, he's a star. 06:32.39 ukfilmreview He's a draw, yeah, I think people will ah see him and go, okay, well, what's that film? 06:34.13 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's got that going for it, but you know, the, you know, it's in terms of getting attention and getting space, it's got limited opportunities. 06:46.09 Brian Penn I think Naomi Aki's very good in the role as well as Frida, you know, it all works. It all fits together really well. And Channing Tatum really i i argue it's these best parts so far that You know, you look at films that he normally makes, that he doesn't make anything mildly challenging, really, that this kind of operates on a different level. 07:05.62 Brian Penn And it it's a departure for him, in my opinion. So that makes people even more curious what he should do. 07:11.95 ukfilmreview He's very um been penned into the comedy circuit for a while, hasn't it he? 07:16.07 Brian Penn Yeah. 07:16.19 ukfilmreview He'd been kind of that sort of light relief. 07:18.32 Brian Penn Yeah. 07:19.98 ukfilmreview I know he did things like Magic Mike and stuff like that, but yeah, largely he kind of comes in as a sort of a funny guy and he is very good at it. 07:25.23 Brian Penn Yeah. 07:26.07 ukfilmreview I must say he's good at the comedy, but it's interesting you're saying that actually something like this where he's playing a more of a mysterious kind of dark character, it works. 07:26.36 Brian Penn yeah and 07:30.81 Brian Penn yeah yes i mean like Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, Slater King is, ah is a complex character, and he gets under the skin that character really well. And when you see the film, you realize that there are, it's multi layered. And Channing Tatum, I think has done himself a favor by proving that he can act. You know, but I'm not saying that he can't act at all. But some actors will pick roles that are good for the careers that make money. They don't take chances, do they? And I would argue that much of what Channing takes him done so far is froth, really. You know, but this is kind of proper acting, in my opinion. So, yeah, it's very good. I liked it a lot. I was surprised myself how much I liked it. You know, because you go into a film, you think to yourself, well, you know, it's going to be a bit in there for me, but it was really good and it surprised me. So it's well worth giving giving it a whirl. 08:26.63 ukfilmreview there you go blink twice currently in cinemas if you're listening to this as of it coming out um but yeah let us know what you think i we didn't have any listener reviews of this so I won't be reading any of those out but yeah if you have seen it 08:38.68 Brian Penn Mm hmm. 08:43.49 ukfilmreview get in touch. We are moving on to a franchise, one of the biggest franchises of all time and we're staying in that kind of dark genre. 08:45.66 Brian Penn Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 08:54.46 ukfilmreview and This is going to be a review by Brian of Alien Romulus. 09:00.32 Brian Penn Okay, then. So this is directed by Fiddy Alvarez starring Callie Sweeney. David Johnson and Archie Renaud. So we find ourselves in deeper space where a Wayland-Yutani space probe finds the wreckage of Nostromo, 09:18.59 Brian Penn which you may remember was the ship from the original Alien movie. A group of young space colonists led by Raine and her brother Andy decide to investigate the abandoned craft. They find organic material which they take back to their own vessel. They begin to examine the material which sets off a terrifying chain of events. 09:38.50 Brian Penn Again, like Blinks Weiss, I won't say anymore, because I don't like to be too much of a spoiler here, but this is all very well done. But it inevitably lifts a lot of ideas from earlier alien movies that grapple with the reality of a perfect organism, which is really treading the past. But to be fair, where else would it go? ah There are some nice touches that remind us of the story's origins. I always felt there was a 50-50 split between sci-fi and horror. 10:05.16 Brian Penn But this seems to me at least to have crossed over to the latter that it is pure horror now. Again, no bad thing necessarily. But I liked the original split between horror and sci-fi. But it seems to have jettisoned the aspects of sci-fi more in favor of shocking the viewer, which it does do incredibly well. But I wouldn't say it's breaking new ground necessarily. It will please fans, I think. 10:32.36 Brian Penn um anyone new to the to the franchise will enjoy it. But again, there's no real substitute again, we touched on it earlier, didn't we about sequels and how they match up to the original. They're never going to be as good as the first idea because you don't have the impact of seeing it for the first time. But having said all that, it is very good. It's very efficient. clinical is a word that I I'm tempted to use on a film like this, because it it is well done. But I don't think it has the ah the impacts and the energy of earlier alien films, that's all. But it will certainly do very well at the box office. It will run for some time. And fair play to them. They've done the job and done it well. 11:21.32 ukfilmreview Yeah, it's interesting with the Alien movies, isn't it? Because I've seen most of them. I think there's a couple maybe I didn't sort of catch. But i we reviewed the first Alien last month on Film Club and it stands out still as ah as in it's a tremendous film. 11:32.64 Brian Penn Yeah. 11:38.31 ukfilmreview It's still tremendous. 11:38.42 Brian Penn Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 11:39.78 ukfilmreview And when I spoke to other people, most, I would say actually everyone says either that's their favorite or the second one is their favorite. um And that's it. 11:47.84 Brian Penn yeah 11:49.00 ukfilmreview There's no other, like no other film comes into chat. 11:50.74 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 11:52.11 ukfilmreview I remember watching Prometheus and I remember just being incredibly confused. um I think 11:56.69 Brian Penn Yeah. 11:57.80 ukfilmreview can't really remember three. I remember not liking it that much um and I think it's this kind of dwindling return that we're getting from these movies. 12:00.16 Brian Penn Yeah. but 12:04.09 Brian Penn Yeah. 12:05.94 ukfilmreview With something like this it doesn't stand out as a film that I'll probably make time for. I know that sounds a bit bad but I think it's a franchise that I because I haven't seen it lift off at any point since the first couple of films. 12:12.69 Brian Penn that and Yeah. Yeah. 12:18.77 ukfilmreview I just don't feel that bothered by it. 12:21.22 Brian Penn Yeah. But I think it says a lot, a lot there, though, Chris, where you say, right, the first and second films were great. I'd agree with you there. But then you kind of tail off a little bit when you say you talk about the third one and fourth one, you don't really remember it. 12:32.78 Brian Penn Doesn't that really say a lot though about the the impacts of sequels when when they they're just redoing what you've already seen? And even when you do watch it, nothing really stands out for it because you've already seen it and they're using up their best ideas in the earlier films. And that doesn't mean to say that it's not gonna be commercially successful, but is it gonna be critically successful? Maybe that doesn't matter. so you know But I think you when you look at what you get from it, 13:01.85 Brian Penn as you say the lower diminishing returns, you're you're getting less from it. And it's probably of more benefit to a new audience who are just getting into alien the first time. But what we always direct them back to the first or second film? like 13:14.72 ukfilmreview Yeah, that always makes me wonder with like modern audiences, whether the gap in quality would be a problem. Because obviously from our point of view, we still have the storytelling and we have no problem. 13:27.68 ukfilmreview yeah And actually the film that's on The Stylotropic actually suffers a lot from this in terms of the look and feel of it. that If you weren't around when those films came out, you would think, what is this? 13:34.22 Brian Penn Yeah. 13:38.54 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 13:38.61 ukfilmreview ah But I still think with 13:39.10 Brian Penn Yeah. 13:41.83 ukfilmreview these absolute legendary movies like Alien um that it is kind of like it's still so good that I still think modern audiences will watch this and go wow that's brilliant and because it's not necessarily about the look and feel it is about the storytelling and how well it's been done and with the first Alien film 13:57.28 Brian Penn Yeah. 14:03.72 ukfilmreview And second one, it's like how it made me feel like when I left the movie, I was just absolutely like, yeah, oh my God, I've been transported, whereas with the other ones, I didn't feel that at all, I didn't connect. 14:06.20 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 14:09.91 Brian Penn and Yeah. know no Yeah. 14:12.75 ukfilmreview So it would be interesting if anyone's listening that has come to the Alien franchise fresh, which does happen quite a lot now, because obviously we're quite old and but other people are not so old, um they come and and watch these movies and and then they go and explore the back catalogue. 14:18.72 Brian Penn Yeah, of course. Yeah. oh yeah 14:25.72 Brian Penn Yeah. 14:28.51 Brian Penn Yeah. 14:28.59 ukfilmreview But um yeah, this feels like that sort of movie. 14:30.47 Brian Penn But. Well, you see, I would recommend anyone news to the genre too. to start with with the first film, but I think it's a tendency to just to see get into what you see in front of you first, then you go back. 14:44.37 Brian Penn And really, you should do it the other way around. You should treat it like a box set, shouldn't you, really? 14:48.84 ukfilmreview Hmm. 14:49.41 Brian Penn I don't Yeah. 14:50.03 ukfilmreview I also, there's a lot of things as well in these sort of movies where they are, they're already confusing, right? Cause it's sci-fi and everything, but then they're making callbacks often to other things that have happened in previous movies and they're referencing characters or or stuff that I think, yeah, definitely watching them in order is the, is the best way to go, if you can make time for it. 14:55.88 Brian Penn yeah 15:02.17 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 15:08.57 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, and that there I think we know that even though sequels can be standalone films, and they often are, but there is a recurring theme, there's a common thread running through every, every sequel, every sequel that's made, you know, even with, with um even with Fast and Furious, there's still a, there's still the vaguest of threads still running through every single one of those 10 films. 15:28.63 ukfilmreview Hmm. 15:33.57 Brian Penn And it still makes even though you can see them individually. it would make sense to watch them from the start, then you appreciate how the storyline such as it is, you know, as developed site, there isn't much of a storyline in past theories. 15:47.24 Brian Penn But you know, I'm getting out though, you know, in principle, there's a common thread there that you should appreciate and you can kind only do that if you watch it from the beginning. 15:48.27 ukfilmreview Oh yeah, yeah. 15:54.59 Brian Penn So yeah, they're still good. look It's very good. This is very solid, good filmmaking, there's nothing wrong with it. But you know, um we we must point these these things out, mustn't we? 16:06.71 Brian Penn As we say, 16:06.76 ukfilmreview Yeah, and if you watch Alien Romulus, I know we've read a review out on a previous episode, but if you've seen it, do still send in your reviews, that's absolutely fine. 16:15.47 Brian Penn Hmm. 16:16.21 ukfilmreview Let us know what you thought of it. Carrying on with ah franchises and, well, we no one thought this was gonna be a franchise, but maybe it will become one. 16:19.57 Brian Penn Hmm. 16:25.01 Brian Penn no 16:26.55 ukfilmreview um Tim Burton's Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. 16:30.65 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah. 16:32.16 ukfilmreview I mean, now we really are throwing back to the old school. Go on, Brian. 16:35.15 Brian Penn Yeah, nice 96 the the original was my. I made a point of actually watching the first film before I saw the new one, just to sort of refresh my memory, because I hadn't seen it for many, many years. But you know, we, ah so we've got who original stars that come back, or most of them anyway, Michael Keaton, Winona Reiner, Catherine O'Hara, plus Justin Theroux, and some more really good cameos as well to look out for. So the story picks up with Lydia Deets hosting a supernatural chat show 17:07.36 Brian Penn During filming, she has visions of Beetlejuice in the audience. Her father, Charles, later dies on the way to her funeral. Sliming TV producer Rory proposes to Lydia. She accepts, which enrages daughter Astrid, who seeks comfort with Jeremy, a ghost with a murky past. He convinces Astrid that she can see her father again, her late father again, if his life can be restored, that Astrid is in danger and Lydia will have to call on Beetlejuice once again. 17:38.29 Brian Penn Now I really like this film, I really like it. Like I was trying to say, I prefer it to the original. Now I'm not saying that it's better, that's another conversation entirely. But there's just a more dynamic storyline, the visuals are a lot stronger. I really liked it, it was more challenging on a sort of a cerebral level. What I thought was interesting, when I came out, I was coming out of the cinema, I overheard some people talking and seeing it with me at the same show. 18:05.96 Brian Penn They said, oh, the storyline's too complicated. I thought, what's wrong with that, really? What's wrong with being challenged a little bit? 18:10.71 ukfilmreview Nothing. 18:13.36 Brian Penn You know, I think with a film like Beaslejuice is that, you know, you just assume the visuals are going to do all the hard work for you, but there is a more, compared to the first film, there is a more involved storyline here and it's more, there's a lot more to get to grips with, but I enjoyed it more because of that. 18:30.72 Brian Penn But, you know, a very good film. I'm not sure why he's waited so long. so to remake the film or not remake it but to make a sequel and it is a proper sequel because the story's moved on you know Lydia's grown up you know um so you know it there is a continuum there so it's it's not a remake it's a it's a sequel but I enjoyed it and I to be fair the that long gap 18:42.04 ukfilmreview Yeah. 19:01.58 Brian Penn allows them to take account of technological advances in filmmaking where the special effects are bound to be better. And you realize how basic special effects are on the first film, but I don't think it relies on it quite as much, but a very enjoyable film. 19:14.87 Brian Penn I liked it. 19:15.83 ukfilmreview Hmm, we have a couple of listener reviews, so let's see what you make of these, Brian. So Oliver Guild gives the film three stars. and'm I'm just taking a snippet from his really talking about Michael Keaton. He says, the juice is exactly what you'd expect this time around. If not a little perfunctory, he's as wacky and mischievous as ever. And it's a joy to watch Keaton have fun in a role he clearly loves. But he is a little uneven at times, oscillating between full throttle cartoon clown and somber, charmless Joker. 19:46.99 Brian Penn Hmm. 19:47.34 ukfilmreview Helming all the craziness is Tim Burton, and luckily he's in his element here. Nothing else looks or feels like a Tim Burton film except a Tim Burton film. And there is a genuine thrill in watching a master director at work. 20:00.53 ukfilmreview I mean, it I mean, that bit is sort of an interesting couple of aspects of the movie. So one is Keaton's performance as Beetlejuice. How did you find that, Brian? 20:10.99 Brian Penn Yeah, look, I mean, he yeah obviously knows the part very well. I think that was a good review, by the way. 20:16.31 ukfilmreview Mm. 20:16.39 Brian Penn um Michael King knows the part very well, and he's having a ball with it. You know, when you know an actor, he's just loving what they're doing. um I mean, the reviewer there mentioned the ah the extremes, you know, about one minute, it's very earnest and dull, and the next minute, he's almost comic strip. 20:34.49 Brian Penn There are elements sort of Beetlejuice That is a feels like a comic strip. That's the, that's the intention, but it still hits the mark though. And it can still be very funny at times. And, um, that's, that's fair enough. That's what you expect. Um, I think the, um, that it is a typical Tim Burton film. Yeah, of course it is. And it adds that mark of quality about it. So yeah, I do. I'd they agree with the that review. Um, it's all good. It all works. You know, they, they, he's updated the story. 21:06.78 Brian Penn And he's worked a lot harder updating it. 21:06.96 ukfilmreview a 21:09.19 Brian Penn You know, you see some sequels, they don't, they make less of an effort with some sequels to update the story and to appreciate the fact that it's, it's moved forward what 36 years or yeah, it's 36 years, isn't it? 21:16.06 ukfilmreview Mmm. Right here. 21:23.22 Brian Penn Um, so he's done that really well. So yeah, I, I taken board all of those points and and broadly agree, but the the comic strip elements of Beetlejuice are ah deliberate and they're meant to be there. 21:35.50 Brian Penn So I think that those kind of, where the characters go into extremes is it's intended, that it's deliberate. 21:41.88 ukfilmreview Yeah, I think you and in Oliver's review he mentioned it being a timber and film and yeah, you can't get away from the aesthetic that that man has created for himself in terms of filmmaking. 21:50.56 Brian Penn Yeah. 21:52.61 ukfilmreview um This movie absolutely resonates on that level. um We had another review, Alexa Day also gives the film three stars. 21:58.04 Brian Penn Hmm. Hmm. 21:59.89 ukfilmreview um This film could be summed up in a sentence. It did not need to be made. It was ah yeah it was fun. 22:05.60 Brian Penn well yeah 22:07.90 ukfilmreview The visuals and the cinematography were fantastic. Burton really nailed that aspect. He encapsulated the same feel of the afterlife from the original expanding universe while still keeping all his signature style atypical and creepy. 22:20.03 ukfilmreview However, the writing and the storytelling storytelling sorry seriously failed to keep up with what made the original film so enjoyable. with many subplots they added in all falling flat with no real depth or dimension added throughout. 22:28.15 Brian Penn um 22:31.78 Brian Penn well 22:34.84 Brian Penn Well, yeah, I mean, um, I wouldn't totally agree with that. Obviously. Um, I liked the, um, the subplots and I'm not sure they felt totally flat to be honest, but, but I mean, that was their view of it. 22:46.41 Brian Penn And that's fair. Fair enough. Um, when they say that it shouldn't have been made, well, there's an argument to be made for every sequel. You could say the same thing about every sequel, couldn't you? 22:54.35 ukfilmreview and 22:56.32 Brian Penn It shouldn't have been made because in an ideal ideal world, there would only be one version of every film. You know, we've always had sequels. There have always been franchises in the movies. You know, James Bond is a franchise that started very early on, you know, um which is fair enough. But the bottom line is that they're there to make money, and they all almost always do. Otherwise, they wouldn't keep on making sequels. and But very rarely to do they break new ground, but they still they're still valid. I mean, how would real fans of Beetlejuice 23:33.85 Brian Penn take it. You know, I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan. ah but I find both films very enjoyable for what they are. I find it difficult to be too critical, ah because it's not a genre that I'm particularly into because I'm a mainstream film fan and I watch everything. 23:50.62 Brian Penn So I tend not to get into niches, but you see some people that understand it better will have a more critical way. 23:58.25 ukfilmreview Hmm. 23:59.00 Brian Penn You know, so I mean, I, to be honest, I mean, I would have given it a four actually. paul um It would have been between a three and a four for me. But you know, it depends what your expectations are when you see a film like this. 24:12.53 Brian Penn And how much of a fan you are to begin with, you know. 24:12.77 ukfilmreview Yeah. Yeah. 24:15.79 ukfilmreview Yeah, I think there's definitely an element of what you're going into this film with in terms of your ah expectation of a movie that is coming out so far after the original because, you know, there will be a, there'll be there people that will say, you know, it is a cash grab and it is a almost a bit desperate, but you're bringing back these actors to just, you know, reprieve a role that, you know, why are we not hearing a new story? 24:19.62 Brian Penn Yeah. 24:26.21 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 24:38.89 ukfilmreview but then there's also that element of, okay, yeah, but maybe there's something here that's still relevant or something new that they're actually using these characters to explore because they were very good characters and it works well. 24:48.76 Brian Penn Hmm. 24:49.95 ukfilmreview um But also, you know, Alexa Day, thank you for the review. all opinions are valid. you We're very happy to have all opinions here. 24:59.24 Brian Penn Absolutely. Yeah. 25:00.15 ukfilmreview um And this is what's great about Film Club. 25:00.70 Brian Penn Yeah. 25:02.03 ukfilmreview It's great that it's starting to turn into this where we're getting these ah you these reviews. 25:04.03 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 25:05.76 ukfilmreview And also, yeah um and Alexis's review goes on to talk about lots of other aspects of the movie. I only picked out the very first section of the review. um Talk about the first film. 25:14.56 Brian Penn Hmm. 25:15.35 ukfilmreview We did have a listener review of that, which I think is obviously interesting. 25:17.86 Brian Penn Oh. 25:19.30 ukfilmreview um Their name is Saturn, apparently. 25:19.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 25:21.94 ukfilmreview I'm not sure whether, ah what gender or any gender that you might be. 25:22.22 Brian Penn Oh, okay. 25:25.66 Brian Penn Yeah. 25:26.18 ukfilmreview um This is from 1988 Speed Tool Juice, ah which they gave five stars. 25:31.48 Brian Penn Hmm. 25:32.03 ukfilmreview I'm not sure I'd give the original five. I was scared. I was scared by it as a child, quite a lot. 25:36.18 Brian Penn Yeah. Well, you were just young. 25:37.89 ukfilmreview It's still, i that's the year I was born. 25:38.62 Brian Penn So when you at the time, oh, there you go. 25:40.64 ukfilmreview I was still, yeah, I was, 25:42.00 Brian Penn You could get much younger than that. Could you really? 25:43.80 ukfilmreview yeah i watched it in the womb um but yeah interesting to see obviously a five star review of the original beta 2 so i won't read the the full review out because it's It's quite long, but then so yeah talking about Burton's style again. 26:01.90 ukfilmreview Burton's signature style, a mix of whimsical and the creepy, makes the film an oddly satisfying ride from start to finish. Oh, and let's not forget the music. Danny Elfman's score is iconic as ever, but it's the use of Harry Belafonte's deal during the dinner scene. 26:11.04 Brian Penn and oh sir Yeah, yeah no that's a great scene though, isn't it? 26:17.10 ukfilmreview yeah Yeah, that takes the cake. 26:17.76 Brian Penn That is a great scene. 26:18.91 ukfilmreview I mean, because I think even the trailer they used it, the the first trailer, they put it on there. 26:19.34 Brian Penn yeah 26:23.79 ukfilmreview And that's the stuff that sticks out to me. 26:24.70 Brian Penn yeah 26:26.52 ukfilmreview When I remember the film, there's that scene. 26:26.98 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 26:28.82 ukfilmreview ah And there's yeah a bit where he's are in the waiting room and stuff. But yeah, there's there are certain parts of Beatrice that are absolutely iconic and I can see why they've decided to sort of bring it back because they've got a built-in audience who already want to see what they're going to do with it and then they've got a new audience who are like oh what's all this like yeah what's going on so yeah I do get it um 26:36.49 Brian Penn Yeah. 26:42.59 Brian Penn Yeah. 26:45.92 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. 26:49.62 ukfilmreview But yeah, let us know anyone else if you've watched Beatlejuice, Beatlejuice. 26:51.53 Brian Penn Yeah. 26:54.67 ukfilmreview I know our critic didn't like it. He saw it at the um Venice Film Festival and gave it one star. So I think he you know what it's like at these festivals. 27:02.98 Brian Penn and That's a bit harsh, really. Just a bit harsh. 27:07.59 ukfilmreview like Sometimes you've been there, you've been curing that for two hours, then you get in and you're like, oh, God. 27:11.78 Brian Penn Yeah. 27:13.30 ukfilmreview yeah So maybe he was having a bad day. 27:15.40 Brian Penn Yeah. 27:16.27 ukfilmreview ah 27:16.35 Brian Penn Yeah, could be, could be. 27:17.73 ukfilmreview yeah I will be talking to you actually Jack soon about his Venice trip and some of the films he saw I think are also going to be at the BFI so that'll be interesting to catch up with him. 27:25.65 Brian Penn and Excellent. Yeah. 27:28.65 ukfilmreview But yeah, just moving on now to a film starring Kate Winslet called Lee. I had not heard anything about this until you told me Brian. 27:37.67 Brian Penn a 27:38.50 ukfilmreview So over to you on Lee. 27:38.92 Brian Penn Well, yeah, let me be a bit of a trailblazer then. Right. Okay. So Lee, directed by Alan Keiras, starring Kate Winslet, Andy Sandberg, Peter Skarsgard, Andrea Reisborough, and Josh O'Connor. The narrative picks up in 1938 as Hitler tightens his grip on mainland Europe. Lee Miller is a former model carving out a new career for herself as a photographer. Vogue magazine in London are sufficiently impressed to offer her a commission. 28:07.56 Brian Penn and it's her Audrey Rook with us. It's supportive, but doubts that Miller's style will be appreciated by the readers. The film periodically flips forward to an older Miller in conversation with her son, Anthony. When war breaks out, she is determined to reach the battlefront. Her lover, Richard Penrose, pleads with her not to go. But she enlists in the US forces and meets fellow photographer, David E. Sherman. They are kindred spirits and together witness the final months of the conflict. 28:35.67 Brian Penn Now this, Chris, is proper filmmaking, in my opinion. 28:39.26 ukfilmreview of 28:40.41 Brian Penn A true story when you when you where you invest in the characters, a compelling storyline that engages you if you let it engage you. know It seems to me so far out of place when it's compared to other films currently being made. 28:55.46 Brian Penn It's very old-fashioned. I'm thrilled that films like this are still being made and are still going on theatrical release. you know um It's a marvelous film. you know it's it the You have this great panoramic view sort of the conflict and what it does. And Lee Miller's story is largely unknown to the masses, I would say. It's only in the last few years that her story's been told. And I think great stories like this are there waiting to be discovered and waiting to be made into a film like this. This is great filmmaking. this is why 29:35.10 Brian Penn to quote a cliche, this is why we go to the cinema, to watch a film like this. But I just wonder how it sits with the current mix of films that we have and what people expect about the movies. But it's a great film. 29:51.84 ukfilmreview Hmm, is it film of the month? 29:55.45 Brian Penn It's Film of the Month. 29:56.76 ukfilmreview I had a feeling the way you were talking about is always in love. 29:57.99 Brian Penn I know. 29:59.76 ukfilmreview He's in love here, so... 30:00.72 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. I know. This is it. This is it. I kind of give the game away. I've got to try and be a bit more neutral and keep you guessing with film. 30:05.87 ukfilmreview oh Well, um um sometimes it's happened and it's the first film we review on the show and it's kind of like, oh, people might just think, oh, I'll just go watch that then. 30:10.26 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Forget the rest. Yeah. But no, this is film in a month without a shot of a doubt for me because of the strength of storytelling. um It's real people, real lives. No, it's not in places. It's not a pleasant watch because it is about war. And this is about a woman who was on the front line. 30:30.67 Brian Penn with nothing more than a camera, don't yeah putting herself in danger so that the world could see well what's going what's happening. you know And that's a bright that's brave in itself, really. So a great film. It's got to be seen. It's got to be seen. 30:48.93 ukfilmreview ah be saying i mean um Like I said, I hadn't really heard about it and this definitely feels like I'm going to start calling them a Brian special because 30:56.45 Brian Penn Oh, OK. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that'll do. 30:58.24 ukfilmreview you have this ability to find these films that are going to probably go under the radar and that it's often about an original story, about characters, and actually more, well, probably about half-time, it's about a real person here, a story from someone here that we've, in history, and then I was having a story. 30:58.75 Brian Penn yeah 31:01.56 Brian Penn yeah and i went 31:07.08 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah Yeah. 31:16.36 ukfilmreview And this is that sort of film where it's kind of like, I'm so glad that we get to talk about it and tell people about it and hopefully people will sort of seek it out because 31:21.07 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 31:25.43 ukfilmreview I would not have heard about Lee in this sort of film. All right, it's got ah Kate Winslet in. So I'm like, oh, yeah, because I know she's very good. I do like Kate Winslet. I think she's a fabulous actor. 31:34.05 Brian Penn Yeah, she's great in this role. 31:35.62 ukfilmreview But sometimes yeah and with my life, the chaos that it is, I don't always have time to seek these films out. 31:38.20 Brian Penn Yeah, cool. 31:40.46 ukfilmreview So yeah, it's definitely going on my must watch list. 31:40.83 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah but absolutely. 31:43.54 ukfilmreview And current I mean, war films typically are worthy, but um is this a worthy of a cinema trip? 31:51.96 Brian Penn I think it is. Yeah, I would say it is very much so. You know, the you you know, you you don't see a lot of on conflict, but what you do see needs to be seen on the big screen. So But you you could say aside from that, it works on the small screen as well. 32:07.28 Brian Penn But the impact is going to be there if you sit if you sit at the cinema. 32:07.42 ukfilmreview Hmm No, I can imagine it's not going to get the bums on seats that it needs to stick around 32:10.96 Brian Penn So I think it's worth a cinema trip and it won't be on for long. It won't be on for very long. 32:17.80 Brian Penn and No, no, but which is why why I ah look upon it as ah an old fashioned movie, that this is the sort of film that would be made 40 50 years ago and would pack cinemas out. 32:30.54 Brian Penn but I think the typical movie-going audience today has become used to a different diet of films, a different type of film. And it's reassuring they're still being made, that there's still a bit going on general release. 32:42.75 Brian Penn But a film like this, if it's going to survive at all, would be on the small screen. So I think it's great to see this type of film at the cinema. And please go and watch it. 32:53.39 Brian Penn Give it a chance, I would say. 32:55.64 ukfilmreview I mean, we don't often beg, but yeah, please go watch it. 32:57.45 Brian Penn Yeah, give give it give it a chance. You never know. 33:01.08 ukfilmreview So that's Lee, and that's the final review of the theatrical releases. So all of those should be currently available at cinemas near you if you are in the UK. 33:09.51 Brian Penn Yep. 33:11.30 ukfilmreview If you're not in the UK, if you're one of our listeners around the globe, hello. um 33:14.82 Brian Penn Yeah. Where have you been? 33:16.45 ukfilmreview Where have you been? Yeah, or how have you been? and And I hope always well, wherever you are. 33:18.31 Brian Penn Yeah. 33:21.32 ukfilmreview um We are moving on now to our streaming pick. So this is a film that is available on a streaming service now. I would also caveat that that streaming service in the UK. 33:33.58 Brian Penn um 33:33.84 ukfilmreview We have heard from some people that said there they can't watch it because maybe the provider is different where you are. 33:36.65 Brian Penn Uh, hmm. 33:39.49 ukfilmreview um The movie that we're reviewing on this episode is available on Disney Plus and it stars Daisy Ridley. 33:44.37 Brian Penn Hmm. 33:46.43 ukfilmreview It's called Young Woman and the Sea. Now, I'm going to say that again because 33:48.91 Brian Penn Hmm. 33:52.86 ukfilmreview i've read it Every time I've told someone I've watched this film, I've said the film title wrong. 33:55.31 Brian Penn Hmm. 33:57.63 Brian Penn Yeah. 33:57.75 ukfilmreview um i've said like I've called it like the young woman in the sea. 33:59.03 Brian Penn Yeah. 34:01.72 Brian Penn but yeah 34:03.17 ukfilmreview I've called it woman in the sea. 34:03.40 Brian Penn and 34:04.79 ukfilmreview ah yeah A woman in the sea, I said at one point. 34:07.28 Brian Penn Yeah, that's true as well. 34:08.31 ukfilmreview um So just just to reiterate, young woman and the sea is is the title that we're going with. 34:09.28 Brian Penn That's right. 34:14.36 ukfilmreview As I said, it stars Daisy Ridley. And again, a film about a real person 34:16.19 Brian Penn and 34:19.76 ukfilmreview um And this was set in 1926, so that sort of era, at a time when women, and in particular with regards to sport, were not seen at all as equals, and that's still obviously an issue even today. um And it's the story of a competitive swimmer called Gertrude Edderley. 34:44.31 ukfilmreview um And I thought this was absolutely brilliant. I really enjoyed this. 34:49.97 Brian Penn Yeah. 34:50.80 ukfilmreview It is on the nose a little bit with the because it's a Disney film. I think they are sort of, you know, the script is fairly kind of non-combative, shall we say. It's it's not, you know, it's not really getting too gritty with the the the characters and stuff. 35:01.30 Brian Penn Yeah. 35:03.74 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 35:05.40 ukfilmreview But I really liked the storyline because she's got a sister, Meg, and the two of them, very they overcome a lot of challenges to become swimmers at a time when yeah Women weren't even allowed to sort of show too much skin on the on the beaches and things like that. 35:20.17 Brian Penn Yeah. Hmm. 35:21.57 ukfilmreview And there was no female clubs for them to join. And they had to kind of basically pave the way yeah for themselves to get yeah into the pool. 35:24.32 Brian Penn Yeah. 35:32.10 ukfilmreview With the help of their mother, who is absolutely ferocious. She is so good. 35:37.17 Brian Penn Yeah, 35:38.14 ukfilmreview She absolutely steals every scene that she's in. 35:40.50 Brian Penn yeah she's good. 35:41.39 ukfilmreview this this formidable woman that just kind of keeps kicking ass and taking your names um and ah yeah her relationship with the dad is brilliant because the dad is just kind of like put trying to put his foot down but realizes he's never going to win he's never going to win um but yeah I thought it was a really great story and it is a very contemporary idea it's a lot of 35:45.67 Brian Penn Yeah. um 35:51.08 Brian Penn I know. Yeah. I know. No, aye that's right. Hmm. 36:02.54 ukfilmreview talk in the media and the news about the disparaging kind of elements between men's sports and women's sports and and pay and access and all this stuff. 36:10.94 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 36:15.16 ukfilmreview So it's great when these sort of stories are brought up and they do have that kind of modern relevance to an audience. 36:17.36 Brian Penn Hmm. 36:20.84 ukfilmreview But what did you think of Young Woman and the Sea? 36:24.03 Brian Penn yeah i love this film for the same reasons that i loved the film lee it's a real story about real people i'll say it again overcoming adversity and sexism you know in the 1920s as well you know the like yeah it does feel obviously like a walk disney film because it's very very safe as you say the scripts is quite bland and quite safe it doesn't take any chances but um you just gotta love all all the characters in this film so much you root for them you know, that t truly overcame measles as a child. She was partially deaf and swimming probably wasn't the healthiest thing for us to do, but she did. And as you say, her mother um really pushed her forward and she became a championship swimmer. She ah competed at the Olympics and two years later in 1926, she, as you say, she swam the English channel and and she did it um two hours 37:24.33 Brian Penn quicker than the fastest man had done it at that time. So, you know, it makes the mark there for the the right of women to compete in sport. And this, this happened a long time ago, you know, it's not a recent equality is not a recent phenomenon, is it really, you know, but there were people around years ago, and back in the 1920s, 100 years ago, who were breaking that glass ceiling. And it's, it's nothing new. And then you realize that progress is being made. 37:52.59 Brian Penn in increments and it's very slow. But this film shows you ah what a force of character she was, what a force of character her mother was as well. So push her forward in this way. My only qualm with the with the film itself is that they seem to play down her achievements at the Olympics i because she won a gold medal in the relay, one of the relays, and see bronzes in the individual events. 38:09.03 ukfilmreview Yeah. 38:14.80 Brian Penn But they seem to sort of ignore it, overlook it, they made it look like she she was a failure. To me, this is the way I interpreted it, is that they made it look like a failure at the Olympics, probably more because they wanted to concentrate on her swimming the channel, because that was the that's the the focal point of the story, is her swimming the channel. 38:35.41 ukfilmreview Yeah, because there's this element throughout the film about the people who have a reason for her to fail, right? There's these like people that have got their hands in certain pies, shall we say, that have got yeah a reason to see her not succeed. 38:42.62 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 38:50.35 ukfilmreview And there's a bit where she's sort yeah she doesn't do very well at the Olympics because they don't really let her train. and 38:56.24 Brian Penn yeah yeah yeah no Yeah. 38:57.11 ukfilmreview she'd say she she does okay, she didn't like lose everything and and then she comes back and then she basically just gives up swimming because she's like oh it's it's not going to happen now but then ah yeah that's like kind of like underdog story where we know all right yeah that's not the end though right you're still going to go because I think what happens is she sees how much of an inspiration that she is to young girls coming up to her and being like oh my god you went to the Olympics for that 39:04.27 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 39:08.62 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 39:17.55 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 39:19.91 ukfilmreview um 39:20.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 39:20.92 ukfilmreview the That's an interesting aspect of the movie that they I think they they wanted to tell that part of the story as well about these men that were trying to keep her down. 39:26.62 Brian Penn Yeah. 39:29.64 Brian Penn Yeah. 39:30.58 ukfilmreview um like you know There's a bit later on, sorry it's a bit of a spoiler, but later on there's a ah guy that kind of hampers her attempt to cross the channel and yeah there's other things like that. 39:34.02 Brian Penn Yeah. 39:41.47 ukfilmreview um I love the bit. 39:42.37 Brian Penn yeah 39:43.28 ukfilmreview Sorry, just because the script is very safe. But there was a couple of lines that were funny, which one was about it was about that. 39:45.32 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 39:50.44 ukfilmreview So when they're on the way to the Olympics, and they tell you, they're so concerned, are they just with them not being around the men? Because they don't be around the men, because they're not going to control themselves, basically. 39:56.97 Brian Penn Yeah, yeah. 40:00.22 ukfilmreview And they have like a book. And it says, he said something like, oh, yeah, read the book, especially chapter two, what to do if you meet a Frenchman. 40:08.62 Brian Penn Yeah, I know. 40:10.29 ukfilmreview I didn't find that out, so it's very cool. 40:12.28 Brian Penn But yeah. 40:12.42 ukfilmreview But yeah, that not there's only a few of those lines, but I think it's very warm. 40:13.71 Brian Penn and Yeah, no, it is. 40:16.61 ukfilmreview It's a very warm kind of film and easy, you know. 40:20.16 Brian Penn Yeah, it is. But as I say, it's a bit, it's a bit like Lee, film Lee, you know, that It's, it's a real story. This actually happened. You know, the, you know, they, they've not stuck strictly to what happened because they don't want focal points in the story to stand out. Well, that's fair enough, but you're never going to tell the absolute truth. Um, but it just shows though, when you look at what she did at the Olympics, it heightens her success and what she achieved. Yeah. A time when women were only grudgingly being allowed to compete, you know, they, 40:54.92 Brian Penn the nice things when things say they still felt women weren't strong enough to compete in in sport you know and they didn't properly enter the ah olympics track and field events until 1928 and it's shocking really but i mean they're pioneers they're the trailblazers you know that the you know what what we have today is the result of what people like trudy eddie did back then you know so they're inspirational characters which makes the film even stronger for me 41:24.97 ukfilmreview Absolutely. It definitely cap captured that element because it wasn't just Trudy as well. There was like the mum going out of her way to get things done like the like um the husband wouldn't give her the money. 41:32.86 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 41:37.43 Brian Penn Hmm. 41:39.38 ukfilmreview So he's she said all right or she goes around him and just start selling like some shoes or something that she made. 41:42.84 Brian Penn Yeah. I know. 41:45.22 ukfilmreview and And then she goes to the radio station and all these things that's just like she had to do that. 41:45.26 Brian Penn Yeah. 41:49.93 ukfilmreview They had to break the doors down because otherwise it wouldn't happen. 41:51.64 Brian Penn Yeah. 41:53.35 ukfilmreview And I think also because in the film Stephen Graham's in the movie he's one of the men who's from the channel and he's a bit of an oddball character but i yeah I felt he was a bit underused I said oh yeah Stephen Graham like you really want him but then I also thought actually that would kind of make the wrong point if we're like over reliant on the male star of the film which he's not really he's only actually a sort of side character um it really is Daisy Ridley's kind of movie um and her sister and the mum 41:58.54 Brian Penn Yeah. 42:01.70 Brian Penn Bill Burgess, good character, I'd say. Oh, 42:16.44 Brian Penn that's right. Yeah. 42:21.66 Brian Penn Hmm. 42:24.85 ukfilmreview I think it's one of those movies as well that people could easily miss because it's gone straight to Disney Plus as far as I'm aware. 42:24.95 Brian Penn Yeah. 42:31.65 Brian Penn Yeah. 42:32.58 ukfilmreview It's not a cinematic release. 42:32.81 Brian Penn Yeah. 42:34.17 ukfilmreview And if it sort of doesn't catch you straight away in terms of, you oh, it's a woman's from in the channel that I think people will miss out on it. And it's it's it's an easy watch. 42:44.17 Brian Penn Hmm. 42:44.67 ukfilmreview This for me is that Sunday afternoon film. It's an easy watch. You can put it on. 42:48.89 Brian Penn Yeah. 42:49.44 ukfilmreview whole family can pretty much watch it. um It's there's only mild peril in it to be honest. 42:53.07 Brian Penn Hmm. 42:54.64 ukfilmreview And um yeah, it's its I think also they recreated the era really well. I'm always conscious of that when they do these movies and it's a 1920s kind of aesthetic. 43:01.59 Brian Penn Yeah. 43:03.82 ukfilmreview I thought they did really well. I thought it actually looked really good. um 43:07.04 Brian Penn Well, yeah, you can believe it's the night since Wednesdays. But it's it's something you kind of expect now that, you know, period dramas, you know, needs to be right. Because I think we've got an audience that are probably more picky now than they used to be. 43:22.20 Brian Penn And, you know, the fact that we're, we're film critics, I mean, we're, we're gonna alight on that. But I think they've got better on it you know, about observing period detail and making sure the continuity is right and all that type of thing. 43:34.40 Brian Penn All the period details spot on, you know, and I'm a bit surprised this didn't go on theatrical release. It does surprise me. 43:40.67 ukfilmreview It feels like a big cinema film, isn't it? 43:42.48 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 43:43.74 ukfilmreview Especially over the summer holidays, that would have been a good movie. like Get the families in. 43:46.22 Brian Penn Well, yeah, but because it has walked this thing and it's, I'm going to use the term clean, but you know what I mean when I say it's clean it, any, any, any one could watch it. 43:53.46 ukfilmreview Oh yeah. 43:56.40 Brian Penn You know, you could take your kids to see a film like this. You know, and so it's a, it's a classic Walt Disney film in that way. So, you know, it has broad appeal, but obviously the money men knew what they were doing, presumably when they sent it straight to stream. 44:11.56 ukfilmreview Yeah, well, let us know if you see it, Young Woman in the Sea. ah If you have struggle yeah remembering the title, just listen to my review on this podcast, because I've had to say it several times. 44:20.68 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah yeah 44:23.32 ukfilmreview um And yeah, moving on now to our nostalgia pick, an absolute, I mean, you don't get really much more cinematic than this. 44:34.62 ukfilmreview I mean, if you think about, if someone says you list the five most yeah popular films of all time, 44:37.34 Brian Penn Hmm. Hmm. 44:40.84 ukfilmreview I think this will probably turn up in them or at least the first or second one because I prefer the second one. 44:41.09 Brian Penn Hmm. 44:46.77 ukfilmreview If you don't know what I'm talking about, fair enough, um not many people keep up with me these days. 44:52.78 Brian Penn and 44:53.17 ukfilmreview I'm in a world of my own but we are talking about of course Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator and the reason why this came up was very thankfully to some of our listeners who sent me reviews because it's the Terminator's 40th anniversary. 45:11.39 ukfilmreview 40 years, Brian. 45:12.61 Brian Penn No, don't remind me. 45:13.77 ukfilmreview 40 years. 45:13.85 Brian Penn I remember going out to see it when it first came out. 45:14.78 ukfilmreview Four decades have happened. um 45:21.09 ukfilmreview I mean, it and it is an absolute juggernaut of a movie um in terms of how it's affected popular culture, how it's affected cinema. 45:22.20 Brian Penn yeah 45:26.49 Brian Penn Yeah. 45:31.65 ukfilmreview um But what was really funny he was watching this, how little of it I remembered, because as a kid, I religiously watched the second one. 45:38.44 Brian Penn Hmm. 45:42.08 ukfilmreview um 45:42.34 Brian Penn Right. 45:42.97 ukfilmreview It was in the era, not many people listening this probably know this era, which is when we used to videotape things off the TV. 45:43.58 Brian Penn Hmm. 45:46.78 Brian Penn Hmm. Oh, that, that whole thing. 45:50.38 ukfilmreview You know, you remember that. 45:50.85 Brian Penn Yeah. 45:51.84 ukfilmreview and 45:51.94 Brian Penn I'll be still. Yeah. 45:52.87 ukfilmreview my My brother had this, the second one on video and we used to watch it just on repeat. We would just get to the end and rewind it. 46:00.48 Brian Penn Hmm. 46:01.09 ukfilmreview um And I had seen the first one, but I wasn't that drawn to it. The second one was the one I absolutely loved. 46:08.54 Brian Penn Yeah. 46:08.58 ukfilmreview But this first one, having rewatched it recently with my wife, I was like, this is great. I'm so glad because this is like so many of the references in the second one are actually big parts of the first film. 46:16.00 Brian Penn Yeah, 46:18.81 ukfilmreview um Yeah, it's I mean, Just before you went back to rewatch this, Brian, how were you a fan of the Terminator films? 46:27.84 Brian Penn yeah I was. oh I am still am, you know, which is surprising for me because, you know, I think it's probably well documented that I'm not a big fan ah of horror. 46:29.37 ukfilmreview It's done. 46:38.05 Brian Penn Not a huge fan of sci-fi, generally speaking, but that's what was all the more remarkable for how much I enjoyed it when it came out, because it always stuck in my mind. And it was one of the films of the aces. Probably one of the films in movie history that stand out as well, because it was so different compared to what we've seen previously. You know, this idea that you've got a cyborg that's a machine that comes from the ah future to hunt down ah a woman who will have a son that would threaten their future dominance, this evil force that's in power in 40 years. 47:17.13 Brian Penn So what's interesting about it is that it starts out in AD 2029, which is like five years away. But that was like 45 years in the future. 47:25.58 ukfilmreview Haha. 47:25.98 Brian Penn And it's so so weird. And when I was watching it, what struck me was that how good it still is, you know, I've often said to you on this podcast, and when we look at our filming the nostalgia slot and we're looking at something from the A6 that how some of them don't age particularly well that they can't creek a bit. I don't think this does. I don't think it does at all. It still it feels so fresh to me. The um special effects you would think would suffer over the passage of 40 years but they still hold up surprisingly well. And the fact that you had Stan Winston in charge of the special effects. It was one of the all time great special effects men. 48:05.42 Brian Penn who works on Alien and Batman and Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones. So they had people that knew what they were doing back then. ah ah you know It's the cyber form that you almost think to yourself, well, they don't need to do a lot of acting. you know Arnie's doing what he does, right? Yeah, he does it really well. And Linda Hamilton's good. She does what she needs to do. them And Michael Bayan and Paul Winfield's in it. But they don't have to do much because The story is so powerful, the way it's told and the visuals are so powerful. It's all about the director, the story and the special effects. They're all working perfect, perfect sort of perfect time together. And it's still effective. It still works. And I don't think many films that are 40 years old that are based on a sci-fi concept that relies so much on special effects that are still good after 40 years. And that's, that's a rare thing. 49:04.46 ukfilmreview Yeah, I found this, I had dated to maybe a little bit more, say like an alien. 49:08.91 Brian Penn and Yeah. 49:09.64 ukfilmreview Like when we watched Alien, I was like, wow, this still really works. I think because it's it's so much more limited in scope yeah with Alien, theyre it's all on the ship and it's all physically filmed there. 49:12.45 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:15.97 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:18.40 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:20.26 ukfilmreview So like with this, there was bits where they had like, 49:20.43 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:23.73 ukfilmreview flying things and they had lasers and stuff. And I was like, okay, I looked a little i could imagine a modern audience looking at this going, oh, it doesn't look like a alien Romulus, right? 49:29.88 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:32.52 ukfilmreview yeah It's gonna look a bit dated. 49:32.60 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:34.71 ukfilmreview But what I found with it was that because it still had that practical effect element to it, 49:41.34 Brian Penn Yeah. 49:41.90 ukfilmreview like with the special effects makeup and things like that that that is something which is really interesting with filmmaking because it often doesn't date as badly as special effects that have been done with the computer do because computer generation you you can tell right all right yeah computers are so much better but with special effects makeup it's like lord of the rings like you watch all of the rings and you go 49:55.58 Brian Penn Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 50:04.30 Brian Penn Yeah. 50:04.33 ukfilmreview Oh, the first three films looked great because they didn't really use computers for a lot of it. 50:09.11 Brian Penn yeah 50:09.18 ukfilmreview um They had the all that special stuff, all that makeup done. And when you watch the newer ones, you you just watch it five years later and you go, oh, okay, well, I look dated now. 50:19.55 Brian Penn Yeah. 50:19.55 ukfilmreview I think we're terminated. There was some bits that were computer generated or at least done in a way that has dated, but the vast majority the vast majority of it is a thriller film. 50:25.92 Brian Penn Yeah. 50:30.39 ukfilmreview you know It's just him like chasing them and you know there's stunts and it's just off the wall, most of it. 50:32.72 Brian Penn Yeah. yeah yeah 50:37.49 ukfilmreview um and If you, yeah obviously, even if you've not seen Terminator, you probably know that the general gist of the story because it's just become so you synonymous with popular culture. 50:45.77 Brian Penn Yeah. 50:48.24 Brian Penn ingrain isn't not really Yeah. 50:48.68 ukfilmreview Yeah, everyone everyone's up heard about it. 50:50.01 Brian Penn Yeah. 50:50.94 ukfilmreview And yeah, like you say, someone like Schwarzenegger, he's not really putting in any kind of amazing performance, um but it worked well for the role that he's got. 50:57.55 Brian Penn no 51:01.21 ukfilmreview Whereas you in the second film, um I did find he he upped his game a little bit. I think he was more, because it made him more human, right? 51:07.58 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 51:09.86 ukfilmreview and and And I still think Judgment Day is a better movie. um 51:16.27 Brian Penn Oh, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. I mean, they're both very close in that way. Um, but I don't know. I kind of, um, more, more towards the first one, just a little bit. 51:25.78 ukfilmreview I think for me, it was ah yeah Robert Patrick playing that T-1000 in the second film. 51:32.23 Brian Penn Oh, right. 51:33.35 ukfilmreview He was just so terrifying. 51:33.62 Brian Penn Yeah. ah I know. 51:35.86 ukfilmreview so He was absolutely terrifying. 51:37.09 Brian Penn Yeah. 51:38.23 ukfilmreview And yeah, no, I think, but they are both very good films. 51:38.86 Brian Penn Yeah. 51:41.38 ukfilmreview It's like Alien, right? 51:41.71 Brian Penn Yeah. 51:41.98 ukfilmreview I think if you're like Alien or you're like Aliens, it's fine. 51:42.81 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. and 51:45.28 ukfilmreview They're both great. And with Terminators, I think they're both great. The rest of the franchise has often disappointed, to be honest. So when I've watched three, I didn't like four was okay, the one with Christian Bale. 51:55.34 Brian Penn and 51:58.92 Brian Penn Yeah. 51:59.24 ukfilmreview And then there was Genesis, I think after I'm not sure. 52:02.57 Brian Penn Yeah. 52:03.40 ukfilmreview After that, it just it just goes off the rails a little bit. And it's a shame because I do think it's a, you know, it's a storyline that would work well, it could there's lots more stories there. 52:13.76 ukfilmreview But that first and second film, I think they just work really well. 52:17.25 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 52:17.50 ukfilmreview They're really good. 52:18.45 Brian Penn Yeah. Again, first and second films, it's like a recurring theme, isn't it? But we say the first and second ones. Yeah. after that, you know, but no, it's what really surprised me. I mean, when I watched it for this podcast, I hadn't watched it in years, years and years, you know, I lost, I don't know when I last watched it, but it still feels good. You know, and you think with the passage of 40 years, you you think the um special effects are going to be rubbish or going to look rubbish, but they don't, you know, it's, it's obviously going to bear its age in some places. 52:55.87 Brian Penn You could say that as to its appeal in some ways, but it kind of still works. And I wouldn't have expected it to still hold up like that as well as it does. You know, and you think, what if they were making some of it at once a day with all the um bells and whistles they've got available, you know, and how would it look now? 53:14.87 Brian Penn But of course, if they did that, it just wouldn't be the same. And you still probably prefer the first one, you know, 53:21.51 ukfilmreview yeah Yeah, that's an interesting idea, isn't it? like weather read because Let's be honest, the amount of remakes we've had, I can't really name you many where I've gone, oh yeah, the remake's better. 53:33.87 ukfilmreview like In terms of in the last 10 years, I know there's remakes that came out in like the 80s and stuff that were different, but like um ah they redid Point Break. 53:39.07 Brian Penn Yeah. 53:42.78 ukfilmreview And I was like, the first one was perfect. Why would you remake Point Break? It's such a good film. 53:47.28 Brian Penn And love point. I haven't seen the remakes to be honest, but okay. 53:49.11 ukfilmreview ah Don't, don't even bother. 53:52.56 Brian Penn All right. i I won't go there. Right. Okay. 53:54.06 ukfilmreview It will upset you. 53:54.26 Brian Penn like Yeah. 53:55.14 ukfilmreview Because that film is, again, I use the word, but it's iconic. you this There's so many parts, and this, you know, Terminator is absolutely iconic. 53:59.40 Brian Penn Yes. 54:02.33 ukfilmreview I don't i don't think you I can be ah ignorant and think that they won't remake it. I'm sure they will. But if they do, they need to find a way to do it where actually you're but making it better. 54:10.09 Brian Penn Yeah, I think they will. and 54:15.58 ukfilmreview But I don't know how you would with this sort of film. 54:17.17 Brian Penn Well, yeah, you sit me see, I'd be fascinated to see if they did remake the first one, just to see what what modern technology film technology could do with it. 54:27.35 ukfilmreview Mm. 54:27.76 Brian Penn right But I still have this strange feeling I'll prefer the first one. And maybe that's just sentiment on my part. that And it's just, in my own mind, things were better back then than they are now. 54:38.84 Brian Penn you know yeah I think it just depends on so many things, doesn't it? But the fact that it's already been done and you think maybe just leave it where it is, why, how can you improve on it? A bit like you were saying, it just had that point break. 54:50.23 Brian Penn You know, what's the point in remaking that film? Really? All right. They're trying to make money again. That's, that's the ah primary, uh, driver, isn't it? To make it, I didn't remake any film, introduce it to a new audience, but why not just re-release the original film? 55:00.05 ukfilmreview Hmm. 55:04.72 ukfilmreview Yeah, put it back at the cinemas. 55:05.69 Brian Penn And yeah, but why not? Why not just do that? And they do sometimes do that, but that's not going to make us much money. But you know, all those, uh, you're right. Point break is iconic, just in the same way that it's someone I want is, but those brilliant scenes in point break where you you've got, uh, I mean, what was Keanu Reeves character called Johnny Idaho? 55:25.60 Brian Penn I think wasn't it, you know, where Johnny you saw, I knew it was an American state. 55:27.92 ukfilmreview Utah, Johnny Utah, yeah. You're close. You were very close. 55:31.05 Brian Penn I was close, wasn't that I? Yeah. Um, but when they jumped out of the plane and he's going after Patrick Swayze's character and They're grappling and they say, you pulled a parachute, now you pull it. 55:41.61 Brian Penn And you think, no, you can't do that again. 55:44.08 ukfilmreview Do you know what? 55:44.71 Brian Penn It's just, it's pointless really. Um, it was, it was in the remake then. um I never realized that. 55:52.06 ukfilmreview I can't even remember. um 55:53.24 Brian Penn so Yeah. See, it's that that's how forgettable it is, isn't it? 55:55.96 ukfilmreview because I was just looking at some film remakes. I was like, actually, yeah, I will hold my hand that there are some remakes that have been worthwhile, but Point Break is not one of them. 56:04.69 Brian Penn Yeah. 56:04.76 ukfilmreview you know ah Well, I'll tell you who is in it, it's Ray Winstone. so 56:08.10 Brian Penn Oh, you're kidding, really? 56:09.12 ukfilmreview Yeah, he's in it. But Luke Bracey plays the Utah character. I've never heard of him. Edgar Ramirez plays Bodhi. But yeah, it was one of those films it just, they didn't even try. 56:20.33 ukfilmreview They just sort of like for like, but not as good. 56:20.88 Brian Penn Slow. Yeah. 56:23.57 ukfilmreview And yeah, but like, I'm looking at these remake lists, I was like, okay, because they remade the Planet of the Apes films. 56:24.97 Brian Penn Slow. but Yeah. 56:30.56 ukfilmreview And I was like actually that's worthwhile. yeah Those original films came out in the 60s and I like them. 56:34.54 Brian Penn yeah 56:35.56 ukfilmreview I think there's a place for them but the remix actually were good and it was like done in a way that felt different but, you know, very cinematic. 56:36.65 Brian Penn um um Yeah. 56:42.34 Brian Penn Yeah. Yeah. 56:44.53 ukfilmreview So I'll hold my hands up and say there are ones that are all good. 56:47.35 Brian Penn Well, the, the, the part of the excellent that came out this year was really good. I was really impressed with it. 56:50.74 ukfilmreview and 56:52.20 Brian Penn So they they can sometimes work, but it depends what you do with them and and how you, you progress the story as well. You know, um, and they don't always work, but they, again, they do their job, don't they? 57:07.61 Brian Penn They introduce that. the the brands to a new audience. And it's it's a license to make more, isn't it? 57:15.01 ukfilmreview Yeah, I think sometimes it is just a purely economical situation where they go, well, we know this won't might won't lose money. So they do it. um But in terms of it being any kind of value to an audience is different. 57:23.20 Brian Penn yeah 57:27.93 ukfilmreview um But yeah, if you're listening and you want to tell us your favorite remix or your least favorite remix, you have to do feel free. um But other than that, That's it for your show. um Obviously we say we've got the other episode out with the indie film reviews, but this has been a jam-packed episode of cinematic releases and other films. um Brian, just to reiterate again, Film with a Month. 57:52.79 Brian Penn Film of the Month, Lee, starring Kate Winslet. 57:54.27 ukfilmreview na Yeah, go see it. Let us know what you thought of it. um But other than that, thank you for being with us. If you've got to the end, well done. um More than my daughters do. 58:03.50 Brian Penn but Yeah. 58:05.43 ukfilmreview yeah I mean, they are six and three. So just to let them know. 58:07.64 Brian Penn yeah you go Give them a, give them a bit of latitude just for now. 58:10.82 ukfilmreview Well, also, they they haven't really got that much going on in their life. So you know whatson what's an hour listening to daddy you talk about films? 58:14.19 Brian Penn Even more reasons to listen in then. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. 58:19.56 ukfilmreview you know But anyway, um thank you anyway if you're listening and we'll see you again next time. 58:20.60 Brian Penn hello and Bye for now. Previous Next

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