UK Film Club 009 - Killers Of The Flower Moon - The Great Escaper - The Conference - The Omen

00:00.00
ukfilmreview
Excellent, but generally Brian how have you have you found the last month you know the whole worlds go to pot. Are you? okay.

00:00.00
Brian Penn
So good.

00:07.37
Brian Penn
Well I tend to be an interested blindstander. Really Chris you know I I like to watch and listen and you know there chaos all around us isn't it. However, you look at it and we we see some of that chaos unfolding on the big screen. Don't we. Because you know films are a reflection of the era that we live in you know and in years to come. They'll be watching films that are made today that give that will give future generations a window into the way people lived years ago but you know I ah, um, of course I'm concerned for the things that are going on in the world. We all are we all want the world to be a safe and happy place. Don't we but there's so much trouble everywhere you look isn't that but I'd I'd say I try not to be too affected by it. You know I don't I'm watching less news now than I used to watch I used to watch the news religiously you know, but now.

00:58.82
ukfilmreview
Um.

01:00.65
Brian Penn
Maybe I I'll just skip this episode this you know because there's so much bad stuff going on. So I tend to ration what I watch and what I read now in terms of news but you see it's so difficult to avoid now isn't it. We got 24 and rolling news everywhere you look. So it's impossible to avoid isn't it really.

01:18.70
ukfilmreview
It It is and obviously technology has made it incredibly accessible and it's made it almost um, allowed it to poke at you? Yeah, you like say before you could choose whether or not to put the news on or to pick up a newspaper but now like my phone will tell me like.

01:24.87
Brian Penn
Thanks.

01:32.87
Brian Penn
Yeah I know yeah I know I know it's all it's almost unsolicited isn't it really where you see all the and artist just don't know you wonder whether it's a good thing or not I suppose it is you know knowledge is power information is power and all that sort of thing. But.

01:33.78
ukfilmreview
Oh this has happened you know I didn't even I didn't even ask like why are you telling me that.

01:51.46
Brian Penn
Do we really need to know this much you know Well I.

01:52.38
ukfilmreview
Oh so someone once told me because obviously the idea of being informed I think that's 1 thing but then there's this other like I think much bigger part of the news which is. Can you actually do anything about this like physically is yeah, is it even within your realm of possibility to have any influence on what is what you're seeing what's going on and I think when you ask yourself that question like because it does yeah drum all these.

02:12.18
Brian Penn
Yeah.

02:19.42
Brian Penn
You.

02:20.62
ukfilmreview
Fears and anxieties within people and it makes it compulsive. It makes you want to go back and really get into more of it and I don't think that's healthy. You know I think I same as you I generally have cut down loads on what I assume especially when you do start to see history repeating itself like I've lived long enough now.

02:31.68
Brian Penn
The.

02:38.98
Brian Penn
Ah, me.

02:39.46
ukfilmreview
To kind of see things I'm like oh okay, they're doing that. That's the way they're presenting that and that's the way they presented this other thing ten years ago that was about the same thing and you kind of are like yeah that they're shaping a narrative that obviously they know works. It's a formula and and everything and I think you do get a bit cynical to it.

02:41.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, there the night there.

02:51.73
Brian Penn
The the yeah I and it probably works the opposite way because I mean news is there to inform us and make us wiser and helps us understand the way the world works but when you give.

02:57.32
ukfilmreview
Ah feel. Well.

03:09.45
Brian Penn
People too much information. They almost fret and they panic and they worry when years ago they probably wouldn't have done quite as much when when they rationed the news they controlled what people saw and heard now it's a free for isn't it really? you can't control what people see what people hear now because it's all online.

03:28.54
ukfilmreview
And you're right about the you know the way that Cinema reflects the time and yeah, it would be interesting to see this period and it's also interesting. Um and actually this comes up in one of the films we're going to review tonight about.

03:28.77
Brian Penn
No, he.

03:41.78
ukfilmreview
The way in which technology has affected storytelling in a very literal in a very kind of literal sense because the devices and by which I mean the sort of techniques that filmmakers and storytellers would have used. They now have if they want to make a film or tell a story in the modern age they have to obviously.

03:47.90
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

03:54.74
Brian Penn
News.

04:01.84
ukfilmreview
Incorporate technology which throws up loads of obstacles because it's like yeah for example, we're we're going to be doing a couple of horror films in this in this episode that horror is one of those things where everyone watching it just goes Oh well I would just do this.

04:03.44
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yeah.

04:17.23
ukfilmreview
And if you've got like a mobile phone you kind of go. Oh yeah, you you kind of would have got away out out of that trouble situation quite easily. Yeah.

04:17.29
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and I and know and I and I it's a being almost being 2 wise though isn't it. You know it's I mean as critics where where there ah to sort of. Analyze things a bit a bit more closely and think right? How well does that hold together. But it can go to another extreme Though. Can't it as Well. You know and that's what's interesting about it. But you know I've always been very um, ambivalent about new technology and the way films are made. Because special effects are there to enhance the story but not dominate it and that's always been my my bugbear about but about effects and and technology in films.

05:03.35
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it's interest in the way that that is it also ah really impacting the industry that we're seeing because funny enough that the quality of the films that we're watching and revering tonight, especially the short has really gone up like because I've been doing this now for.

05:13.63
Brian Penn
Now.

05:21.33
ukfilmreview
10 years in terms of doing the indie film reviews and the standard is so high now of short films and the slickness of the production and yeah before you really could tell if someone was an amateur filmmaker like now I'm like.

05:22.51
Brian Penn
Now.

05:30.84
Brian Penn
Is.

05:37.40
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

05:39.70
ukfilmreview
This looks like it was made by like you know Scorsese or something. Oh.

05:40.26
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I where you see see the thing is now they they don't look like indie films anymore you know we will. We will have an understanding of what we mean by indie by an indie band or an indie film that it's very rough and ready. It's Basic. It's raw but it's got something going for it. But there even. What we would call indie films now are becoming very polished I think which is you know? Yeah yeah.

06:01.39
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think that's that it's becoming difficult to know isn't it. Yeah, like when you see something so polished that you're like well the the reason why they weren't polished before is because they were independent of the studios who had all the money who were making them look slick.

06:12.22
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh right.

06:16.95
ukfilmreview
But now anyone can make a film look pretty slick if they've got access to the internet and um, yeah, but funny enough I mentioned Scorsese and he is where we're going to kick off the episode in just a second. But if this is your first time to UKFilm club just want to say quick hello and welcome. Um.

06:31.59
Brian Penn
Hello.

06:35.70
ukfilmreview
If you are new to the format the way it works is Brian my lovely assistant um is ah going to ah be reviewing the films at the cinema um, then we're going to do a streaming pick so that's ah, a film that is on a streaming platform followed by that will be. Our reviews of some indie films and these are films that people have specifically sent us to review. They've actually asked us to review these ones. Um, and then we finish up with a film called the nostalgia pic now and the nostalgia pick is one where it's from. We're not recing a firm rule but it has to be at least say.

07:12.72
Brian Penn
Is.

07:13.89
ukfilmreview
1015 years old or more. Um, um as this is our October episode we are going to be doing a horror film and well but.

07:20.55
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

07:25.48
ukfilmreview
But before that and we're going to get to Scorsese's latest film and I'm gonna read the imdb title on this because as Brian knows I keep getting the title of this completely wrong? Um, it's not killer flowers ah of the moon. Um, or yeah or flower moons of the killers.

07:35.91
Brian Penn
Ah, easy done easy done.

07:41.57
Brian Penn
Ah, close. That's the one that's the chapy yeah, okay then so this is the much anticipated new film directed by Marci Corese starring Leonardo Dicaprio

07:44.70
ukfilmreview
Is killers of the flower moon over to you right.

07:57.67
Brian Penn
Robert De Niro and Lillly Gladstone so what's the story well it's about ernest burkehart returns home from the first world war and joins his uncle William King Hale his uncle assumes the role of benefactor to a native red indian tribe known as e sargi. Ingratiates himself and learns to speak their language but has a secret agenda to gain control of the end of the tribe's wealth how encourages ernest to get friendly with Molly Kyle and asagey whose family owns most of the old land rights a romance eventually develops and they are married. So. It's a good film. A very good film. It's scorelacey. It's the near eye. It's the caprio that might be all, you need to know. But I'm not sure why it's won so many plaudits the length of this film just drains the energy. Um. It's three and a half hours long to watch his film at the cinema you need to block out the best part of the day you do I mean you you include the trailers you're talking about 4 hours sitting still right now. It's interesting because some slots offer you a 15 minute break in between I didn't go for that because I thought I don't want to. Be there for another 15 minutes even if I do get the chart the chance to stretch my legs but I think it is a major issue. Um, the film's beautiful to look at scorsese puts poetry on screen just like couple of adult the storyline's fairly predictable. You know what's happening and why but honestly.

09:33.19
Brian Penn
I can think of at least 5 school safetyy movies that are better than this but it is very good because it's got that brand. It's got that market quality that we always refer to don't we that that reference point is Schorsace Coppolapiillelberg and I think we need to add crystal and owes to that list now that have that market quality. You know it's going to be good, but not 1 of these best in my opinion.

10:02.80
ukfilmreview
Wow I mean because I've been hearing a lot of hyperbole when it comes to this film. A lot of sort of big big quotes. Um, but when I sort of watch the trade and stuff. Okay, get it. Yeah, it looks like a scese film. Um, but the.

10:06.80
Brian Penn
E.

10:15.44
Brian Penn
M.

10:19.97
ukfilmreview
Plot of it felt it was riffing on some films that have been done before um, and yeah, the length did concern me what was the film he did with the aging thing we aged Robert De Niro the irish room.

10:22.26
Brian Penn
Yeah here.

10:33.85
Brian Penn
Oh oh the Irishman Yeah yeah, yeah.

10:39.40
ukfilmreview
I've been watching that I did that in one go I say one go I did it with pauses I did I as in I didn't do my over a couple of nights I had to pause a couple of times but I did do it all in 1 sitting if it were um and I did yeah he is a very very good filmmaker like he just yeah is.

10:48.41
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

10:55.94
Brian Penn
Ari who says no question.

10:57.94
ukfilmreview
It's it's pure Cinema and but I do find it funny with these films that are coming out of late that do seem to be pushing this very very long timeframes to go almost as a what was almost to sort of compete with the Marvel films. The films that he is so against when he does his promos.

11:12.68
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:17.32
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah, it's almost to go look. You know we can make cinema long if that's what you want. It's like well that isn't really what people want with the superhero stuff. It's just it just happens to be long I think because they're often trying to do a whole comic book which is like a long story into 1 film whereas if you're making a story specifically for film. You can make it.

11:23.85
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:36.95
ukfilmreview
Ah, 2 hours like thus you can tell it in 2 hours do you feel this film could have been told in 2 hours

11:40.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, easily easily no question you could you could lop over an hour off this film easily without a shn of a doubt you know if you've been a bit more ruthless with the editing it could have been an even better film. You know as. As to say not one of these best look this to give you a comparison you compare it to good fellow us that was that now that that was on Saturday night I came in quite light I came there been on for about 20 minutes and I sat there and watched the whole thing again for the 200 time.

12:04.97
ukfilmreview
You.

12:16.95
Brian Penn
But that's only two and a quarters Chris and it shows you can tell a very complex engrossing story in in literature fraction of the time and it's just you just don't need it. You really don't you know the what I think was interesting is when the ah the irish ones was released.

12:18.14
ukfilmreview
E so.

12:36.70
Brian Penn
Interviews were very careful about racing the subject with deirro but he softened up and he said okay, yeah, it's all right? if you want to sort of leave the film for half an hour to stop it then go back to it. Thatso. You didn't mind but it took a long while to sort of even bring the lights to school sa in it. De niro writes. The idea that maybe this is a little bit too long and maybe borders on self-indulgence but you yes is it I know? yeah.

12:57.28
ukfilmreview
I saw it so like you don't want it to become an endurance test of like yeah, can you can you put up with the film for that long because not being funny I have needs I have I have toilet needs that you know I have to go and I've had this before I've been in films before where I've needed a toilet and all that's happened is I've not.

13:13.41
Brian Penn
Yeah.

13:16.78
Brian Penn
No yeah and I I a.

13:16.81
ukfilmreview
Focused anything on the film I'm just thinking about how can I get out of here. How can I go to the loo oh my god oh my god I'm in so much pain and you don't want to? yeah and I think you know that's important for for people to know, especially um. Filmmakers that are doing this regularly like I understand if maybe you've got that one film where you just let you know what it just wasn't possible to cut it down but he's doing this on the reg now and you've got it when you find because we you mentioned Nolan and with Oppenheimer that was another long 1 right? Oppenheimer was ah.

13:36.61
Brian Penn
Yeah I know it's. Yeah, that was only 3 hours I'm only 3 hours mind you be fair.

13:50.10
ukfilmreview
Only did you did you feel that that could have lost an hour as well.

13:55.11
Brian Penn
Strategy enough now I think maybe half an hour for oppenheimer I mean I still think with Oppenheimer they like they kind of they kind of condense two separate stories there and I still think that but I think they that probably that was probably two and a half hours you know

14:08.76
ukfilmreview
Um, like.

14:14.76
Brian Penn
Because they're trying to cra so much in you see killers of the flower moon doesn't justify that amount of screen time right? It's not necessary to commit that much screen sign. Ah you need to justify justify it explain why it needs that amount of sight air time. It's just not necessary. And it and it harms the film because it is a lovely film to look at I mean the the storyline in killers of the family isn't particularly involving or challenging in any way. It's not constantly It's not constantly going off at tangents that keeps you awake it doesn't. You know what? the story is within ten or fifteen minutes you know exactly what's going to happen. You know what what's driving the main characters. What their motivation is so you don't need need any further explanation but you know it's still a good film but it's just so annoying because. You can't concentrate for that amount of time really most some people can but most people can't know. Yeah, definitely.

15:18.41
ukfilmreview
Wrong there. We go find out anyone that seen it do let us know what you thought? um I know obviously we've focused quite a lot on the runtime but I do think as I said you know when scoreset he's making a film. Everyone's got to watch it because it's just he knows what he's doing. Um.

15:29.24
Brian Penn
Yeah now Kus does absolutely well. One of the old time. Great directors and and he's still he still good. It's not like he's kind of lost interest and he's going through the motions you can see how much care and attention goes into every single frame which is the sign of a great.

15:35.66
ukfilmreview
Oh hundred percent

15:47.88
ukfilmreview
There we go. Um, so that's killers of the flower moon. Um I just had to double check that I set that right again.

15:49.83
Brian Penn
Yeah I know you were careful you you were so very carefully sort of killers of the flower moon. Yeah, well bow done. Yeah.

16:00.16
ukfilmreview
Ah, it's um and onto a film that's half the length of that which is um, the great escaper starring Michael Caine

16:03.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll right I okay, so directed by Oliver Parker starring Michael Kane and Glenda Jackson based on a true story d-day ve and Bernie Jordan lives in a retirement home with his wife Rey the Seventieth anniversary of the normandy landings is fast approaching annoyingly Bernie leaves it too late to register for the official tour party and thirdd he decides to make his own way over cares staff smell a rat but reie playfully covers for their errant resident. Walking frame in hand he balls across full border ferry and he's befriended by Arthur an exraf pilot they discover common ground as demons from the war continued to haunt them Bernie and Arthur were introduced to german veterans with whom they share memories of dday. The realization soon dawns that language is all that separates them. The grand ceremony is about to begin and Arthur has secured front row seats. However, Bernie's pilgrimage is not yet complete this. This is a beautiful film. It's a wonderful film. Payne and Jackson are outstanding in their respective roles and make a convincing couple in their sunset years. There's real truth and the portrayal to people who've lived a happy and fulfilling life but like so many of their generation are trapped by memories of a lost youth.

17:32.58
Brian Penn
Vivid flashbacks to the war are brilliantly captured with super sharp editing William Ivory's excellent script crackles with pathos and gentle humor. What remains is a thoughtful account of how the elderly can be marginalized when they should be embraced for their knowledge and wisdom. It's a film. We should all cherish and admire I gave this film 5 stars Chris just to put that rating in some context I've written nearly 200 film reviews now and I've awarded 5 stars on only 7 occasions so that's about 3%. That's how highly I write this film. Yeah.

18:08.59
ukfilmreview
That is incredible I mean what I just to put it. It's a immediate perspective. What would you give this horse ai film so they go I mean that is because I've watched the the trader for this one and I thought oh this looks like up on my street I like.

18:17.47
Brian Penn
I've given it it for I would give it it for yeah.

18:25.25
Brian Penn
Yeah.

18:27.20
ukfilmreview
Sort of films. Um, but to hear yeah and i' known 5 stars. It made me think this is a must see. It doesn't feel like a must see when you kind of look at it on from the out outside you can oh okay, it's a yeah tweak kind of thing coming along but actually for it to be a must see I love it.

18:31.49
Brian Penn
Yeah, no, No yeah, yeah, yeah, it's It's very understated the the publicity that that's that drove the the release of the film wasn't quite as. Well, it's never going to be anything approaching oppenheimer or killers of the flower Moon or Mission Impossible. It's not that kind of film but it deserves the same kind of attention because you gain so much from it and is such sense. It. Let's take so much care over what the subject they're dealing with because.

19:00.55
ukfilmreview
Um.

19:08.84
Brian Penn
It's not just dealing with the war. It's dealing with the way we see the elderly the way they can be neglected overlooks you know it. It was almost sad watching Michael Kaine and Glenda Jackson on screen they were well into their eighty s when the film was made they looked so frail and vulnerable. But that's the curse of actors who've had long careers. You see them aging on screen and of course Glenda Jackson died shortly after the film was finished but that there's something beautiful about it the way it's written the way it's acted very sensitively done. But it is a fantastic film and one of the films of the year for me, it's great.

19:48.41
ukfilmreview
Wow That is huge is is cain finished them acting now he's is stopped to thing.

19:55.21
Brian Penn
Well now that then yeah, there's a question because he said at one point no um, I've not finished acting yet. He was was apparently working on a new film about Charles Darwin but then later reports confirmed that he'd retired. I think the issue he's got is at the age of 90 there are probably fewer roles that would suit him now. He's not I mean the great escaper is probably the the last leading role. He would get even if he chose to carry on acting but after a hundred and sixty films what is the left to do really in that way.

20:22.80
ukfilmreview
So.

20:31.14
Brian Penn
But I'd like him to carry on but you know because I used to think there were no rules in acting that you could carry on ah for as long as you want to? well maybe it just doesn't want to anymore. It must be difficult and at that age so to master a script. Um.

20:44.42
ukfilmreview
Um.

20:48.68
Brian Penn
Do all the promotional work. It must be grueling even for someone half his age but you know you know I I think Michael Kaine's one of the greatest actctors ever anyway. So maybe I'm a bit biased when I talk about Michael K but yeah

20:58.63
ukfilmreview
Oh no, he is an absolute legend and I think you know for this to be out in the cinemas If you're listening to this right now. Um, that people should go see it because I say it wasn't overly promoted. Not many people probably even knew about it and.

21:13.58
Brian Penn
No, no, no yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah, but you know yeah I mean eastba good a true, a true story as well And the.

21:16.28
ukfilmreview
For it to have the title. The great escaper is probably going to be confusing to some people Anyway, um yeah, playing on the the classic film.

21:31.15
Brian Penn
Title for the for the film actually came from a news report I think ah a local reporter called it the great escaper but in a way It's a good cycle for the film because it it. It gives some familiarity. It's a trigger for people isn't it. You know, but it's a film about war. But it's not a war film necessarily so you know it's.

21:34.93
ukfilmreview
There 1

21:44.80
ukfilmreview
Yeah, um.

21:49.73
Brian Penn
But yeah I I can't offer a greater recommendation then please go and see it you know and it's still on. It's still I mean at the time of us recording this episode. It's it's still running. Yeah hi Hello yeah.

21:55.34
ukfilmreview
There we go.

22:02.53
ukfilmreview
And if you're in the future hi again. So always nice talking to you people in the future and do check out wherever you can find it because it's probably available somewhere um unless something terrible has happened in which case try and send us a message if you can let us know what happens because I'm not watching the news anymore.

22:08.62
Brian Penn
See.

22:15.58
Brian Penn
Yeah I know. Yeah yeah, you're given up um no wise sensible.

22:20.18
ukfilmreview
Um, I've given up. Um, we're moving on from the cinema films now because we have got a lot of indies to get through but before we get there as it is the scariest month of the year although I think I think January should be the scariest to be honest, um.

22:26.52
Brian Penn
Yeah, we have.

22:36.64
Brian Penn
So januaryurized expensive month of the year that's when you got up high for Christmas isn't it on. Ah yeah.

22:40.70
ukfilmreview
Got pay for everything and you got to face that horrible weather. But now October is where we get our scary movies in and for this month's streaming pick. We decided to go with a fairly ah probably unknown, um horror film which landed on Netflix.

22:54.17
Brian Penn
Is.

22:59.49
ukfilmreview
Can you guess what date Friday the thirteenth of of October wow yeah, you have to didn't you um, it's a swedish horror film from Patrick Ecklin called well.

23:01.46
Brian Penn
Ah, could it be any other time though. Really I mean? Yeah yeah.

23:12.53
ukfilmreview
It's called conference sen which is the swedish name but it's called the conference if you're looking for it on Netflix they've gone with the english title there. Um, you've seen this Brian yes now I often get to pick these films I'm the one that chooses them and I was quite happy to find something that was.

23:12.82
Brian Penn
In.

23:22.99
Brian Penn
I've seen it. Yes.

23:32.70
ukfilmreview
Bordering in the horror comedy genre. Um, as what it is funny. Um, and I think you have to give the setup. First off, you've got this ah company of people who are going on a teen building conference these sort of cabins in the woods and it becomes.

23:35.55
Brian Penn
It's quite funny places. Yeah.

23:50.18
Brian Penn
Um, he.

23:51.67
ukfilmreview
Quite clear that their plans to open this shopping mall in the area are surrounded by Drama and some obviously negativity from some people and positivity from others. There's also a few riffs within the group because.

23:54.44
Brian Penn
On.

24:06.64
Brian Penn
Yes.

24:09.32
ukfilmreview
It looks as if there's some corruption going on and x y said um, but once they get to the the cabin they start doing some of the tilt team building activities but all hell breaks loose because someone has turned up and is going to start picking them off 1 by 1 Um and this.

24:21.26
Brian Penn
Ah, he.

24:27.36
ukfilmreview
Just leads slightly back into what I was saying earlier about filmmakers having to contrive reasons for why people don't have their phones and this one worked quite well because a team building thing they are quite keen on like look you know what? you can't have your phone because we're all we're all here to connect.

24:33.46
Brian Penn
yeah I know yeah yeah I know that was put yeah, that's right? Yeah, but you know that's that's good I like films that kind of fill in the obvious gaps credibilityibility gaps if you like and they do that here. You know I think that's really important because I should I don't think as as a movie audience. We shouldn't have to suspend our disbelief all the time we should be able to say well that wouldn't have happened but you see what I think is good about this film Chris is that um, it's ah it's something that we. Kind of understand people on a team building exercise or on on away day or whatever you want to call it. We've all been on those sort of days haven't we when we're with people we don't necessarily want to be with doing things. We don't really feel like didn't but know where we have to It's a corporate thing and I like that kind of approach because.

25:22.10
ukfilmreview
Um.

25:31.90
Brian Penn
Assumes that there'll be some understanding in the from the audience that they they know what this setup is like but of course what comes next is something totally different. But I think it was great I really enjoyed it. You know I'm not a huge fan of horror. But this one I think was bang on the money. I Think it was really good.

25:49.60
ukfilmreview
That I think for me the crucial element with horror is first off yet would is it believable because quite a lot of the time this just isn't and secondly is ah is it taking itself too seriously because that I think sometimes if it's not fun like there's a lot of horror films where they are just going for the gore.

25:53.90
Brian Penn
2

26:02.15
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I know that's right? Yeah yeah.

26:07.52
ukfilmreview
Ah, like you're like it's fine, but no, 1 ne's enjoying themselves here like yeah, fair enough you you come up with all this horrible violence. But who's going to come away and want to watch that again whereas with the conference. The. Setup was believe what I totally understood why they were there. Why they've because often that's yeah, a problem like why would you shut yourself off from the world. But with this, it's like kind of part of the point is that you you need to be and then like say they take their phones away because they don't want people chatting and then that box of phones gets taken um and also.

26:23.58
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ah.

26:33.18
Brian Penn
O.

26:40.37
ukfilmreview
The kills in this are very creative. They're really really like even at times I was good I was wincing but I was also laughing at the same di ah there was 1 involving a hot tub which I won't spoil but that was just I was like oh my god um.

26:45.35
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yeah, and I and I and I and I Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:59.76
ukfilmreview
But yeah, no, it was really really clever. Lots of lots of great ways of um, making it feel threatening. There's lots of Peril You do genuinely sort of care. Oh yeah, because it's also you've got a completely mixed bag of characters. It's not like you know oh it's all the teens at the cabin in the woods. It's like no, there's there's like.

27:05.64
Brian Penn
Are.

27:11.75
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:19.25
ukfilmreview
People of all ages. Um, they're all part of this group and some are kind of quite cynical and some are like these like money hungry yuckies kind of people and yeah, you've got lots going on. There's lots of things to root for. There's lots of things to sort of Condemn I thought it was brilliant.

27:20.45
Brian Penn
He yeah.

27:31.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, strong characters a strong storyline as well I like the narrative because with horror movies. They often don't They're not overly concerned with the plot are they really, but it's a strong narrative. Um, you know there's that kind of environmental.

27:36.27
ukfilmreview
So.

27:49.70
Brian Penn
Dimension because they're building this shopping mall aren't they and they're they're plowing through the local the local environment property rights are being affected so you know they're making enemies by what they're doing. It's a corporate thing but they're making enemies because of their their work because of what they're doing so they become.

27:53.25
ukfilmreview
Yep.

28:09.10
Brian Penn
Vulnerable being where they are because there is this this person whos seeking revenge and there's a very good backstory there that gradually ah unfolds oh I'd say I also like it bounce it is that they make you white. You know it's like half an hour before anything really happens but you get into know the characters a little bit but they don't sort of you know what's coming. You know what' to expect but they make you wait for a little while they build up the tension. You know there's a scene very early in the film where the chef goes off on a drive in the woods doesn't he.

28:42.42
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

28:44.50
Brian Penn
And it gets out of this kind of straight why you think oh this is where it's gonna stop but it doesn't then it switches back to the main the main sort of storyline the backs of the camp and I like that because it's not kind of being too obvious and it's keeping you on your toes as a viewer you know and. Yeah,, there's some nice comedic touchches there as well. A like I like it when I like it when the um when the manager of the the camp said to the the caretaker go and fix the wi-fi and he goes off and he pulls the wi-fi out of the root the plug out the route and plugs it back in again. Yeah, that's fixed the wi-fi yeah but.

29:15.84
ukfilmreview
Ah.

29:20.76
Brian Penn
Yeah, lots the nice touches like that. But I could honestly see this becoming for horror fans. It will appear in horror fans top 10 movies I think it is that good I really do it's good stuff.

29:31.80
ukfilmreview
Oh they go and I said I think even though it came out on Friday thirteenth I struggled to see it on my Netflix so I had to look for it specifically. So if you have yeah if you can't see it. Um, the conference is worth checking out and I think it is a a Netflix like a rage original like they.

29:45.26
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

29:50.67
ukfilmreview
There are certainly the people behind it so it should be on there for quite a while after yeah, so if you're listening to this in in 2029 then yeah hopefully it's still on there. Um, and if so I hope I'm still around that'd be great. Um.

29:50.85
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's a cut. It's a co-production I think isn't it. Now Yeah, the life song. Yeah, let let? Yeah,. Let's be positive. Yeah, ah ah.

30:07.46
ukfilmreview
Yeah, let me know to send me a message to say Chris you're still around if I'm not then maybe leave it. Um, so that was the conference and that was our streaming pick of the month um hope you enjoyed that now we're moving on to our indies and we have got a record breaking 6 to review is that right.

30:14.64
Brian Penn
E.

30:23.28
Brian Penn
The end 6 Yeah nice see.

30:25.98
ukfilmreview
1 2 3 boy yeah, 6 through of it. Um, and we're going to start with a documentary from Alex Perry called angle and now this is about the wrestler cur angle did you know k angle before you came to this documentary so this will be interesting because.

30:31.83
Brian Penn
I. No I've never heard of him. Yeah I Oh really? Yeah yeah.

30:45.64
ukfilmreview
I was a massive wrestling fan at the time of when he was popular or so of job just before really when the the rock and the undertaker and people like that he came kind of slightly after it. But yeah I very much he was in the thick of it when I was watching wrestling so I did know and when I saw.

30:57.82
Brian Penn
I'm I write? yeah.

31:03.30
ukfilmreview
Review go up I oh angle what's that then and I looked and I thought that's Curt Engel and I thought oh hold on. We've got a documentary about someone I genuinely know because um he was I don't mean Sco into the territory of the the film. Um, he was actually an olympic wrestler to begin with and and then he went into the.

31:09.59
Brian Penn
Wow right.

31:18.17
Brian Penn
Yeah yep W w Yeah yeah.

31:21.90
ukfilmreview
The main kind of WWwe stuff um and that was his whole thing was about being this olympic rester so when I heard this this document show. So actually I bet that's a fascinating story. So I I'll kick off because obviously you you didn't know who he was Brian all right? Yeah, um.

31:29.97
Brian Penn
No no I'm I'm a sports fan right? I'm be honest time you watch wrestling when it's in the olympics but I still hadn't heard of him even though he was a Olympic old member. So you know yeah.

31:44.61
ukfilmreview
Yeah, back in the the light was that so the if a cur angle in the the documentary follows him pretty much through his whole life up to up to now and he we we find out about his home life. 1 of 3 brothers I think and he other sister.

31:54.49
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:01.51
Brian Penn
No.

32:04.14
ukfilmreview
Um, he talks about his father being an alcoholic but who would hide it quite well and who would sort of not drink from the kids. Um, he dies his his father dies in a tragic accident at work and then we during all this time. He's also training to be ah.

32:13.61
Brian Penn
E.

32:22.67
ukfilmreview
Ah, wrestler olympicres. He's very good at sports. All the brothers are um but he shows a particular a pochant for wrestling and ends up going very far with it as we've as we've mentioned he becomes the Olympic champion. Not after you know a small amount of.

32:24.20
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

32:32.23
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

32:40.35
Brian Penn
Yeah, honestly, yeah, but personal problems. Well I know yeah honestly Chris I couldn't believe how many times he broke his neck and carried on wrestling.

32:40.68
ukfilmreview
Amazing work. He he goes through loads of stuff loads of injuries. Lots of things that he yeah he break he breaks his neck and he ends up still wrestling like numerous times and it's like what.

32:59.49
ukfilmreview
I thought a broken neck was a 1 time thing I thought that was okay well you're dead on you and but no not for angle. He just keeps wrestling. Ah yeah.

33:00.35
Brian Penn
Ah.

33:03.25
Brian Penn
well well I mean I yeah I found this absolutely fascinating. You know, but I probably enjoyed the the first part of the film more than the second part because the first part of the film was building up to the Olympics and you know the. Trials and tribulations he had and he lost a very close friend and me and his father died but in the olympic trials he he fell awkwardly on on his on his net and this wasn't wwe Wwe this is really strict amateur interesting where they they adhere to sort of very strict role. Don't they.

33:24.18
ukfilmreview
Me.

33:41.40
Brian Penn
And he landed on his neck and broke 4 Vertebrae ah which were pressing into his spinal cord now one more blow 1 more heavy blow to the neck could have killed him could have paralyzed him and he emitted date in the film didn't he that he said 1 more hit. It could. Could have been the end that to me just shows that elite athletes are are a different animal so to the rest of us they think in a completely different way. This is a competitive edge coming out and that's beyond my comprehension I don't know about you I mean. Just to understand what drives somebody like that you know? yeah.

34:18.53
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think that was quite a powerful part of the the film is because often when you see biopics about sports people that sometimes they're not involved right? They're not actually even in the the film but Kurt Angleel is very much in this like he's narrating a lot of it so you are getting.

34:32.30
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:36.62
ukfilmreview
Directly from him in terms of what he did and what happened um and like talking about one of the training things was he would put someone on his back and run up a hill numerous times and I just.

34:45.76
Brian Penn
I Know it's just yeah I know yeah I know and it's It's just unreal like I say.

34:50.10
ukfilmreview
I Thought just listening to you say that makes me tired I was like I'm I've yeah sat there lying on the sofa sipping a diet Coke and I'm thinking. Yeah, this guy's carrying people uphills.

35:03.37
Brian Penn
Truly, you know true athletes have to be competitive and have to be so single-minded that they they ignore the obvious risks to achieve the ultimate goal. Whatever it is I mean I'm not entirely sure what was driving him when he went into Wwe Wwe because that sensetainment isn't it. That's show. Bos you know what drives an athlete to win an olympic gold medal is different to what drives you when you're in a completely different field. You know I mean that W Wwe is great fun great entertainment but it's not sport. It's not. Competitive sport in the same way as it was in the olympics. So there's a difference there.

35:39.67
ukfilmreview
I Think that's part of the big the story there though is that he dedicates the first part of his life So much to this winning the gold like that he was so driven.

35:51.91
Brian Penn
Yeah.

35:56.22
ukfilmreview
That when he achieved it. He just didn't know what to do it was like well where do I go from here like what and 1 of the one of the famer says like you know it's not really worth anything. You know you've got a gold medow in your hand. But yeah, she says you've got something else in your other hand I'll leave it up to the listeners to decide well that is but she was is very true. He said well.

35:57.48
Brian Penn
Now and I.

36:07.59
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, ah.

36:14.98
ukfilmreview
It doesn't it's not like oh okay, well now you've got you know a million pounds a year for life. It don't give you a salary from that like you and I think the whole training side of it and it was kind of it felt like um.

36:17.38
Brian Penn
The yeah.

36:25.10
Brian Penn
Is.

36:30.86
ukfilmreview
You know, full metal jacket. It felt like oh it's like the training session in that first part of the film was really grueling and then it goes into this other start start of the story which you're like oh okay, well now it's this which is totally different to what we've just seen um, also they go to Fox Catcher have you seen Fox catcher the film i.

36:32.63
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

36:40.54
Brian Penn
Yeah, the name. No I haven't actually yeah.

36:50.67
ukfilmreview
Strongly recommend that film. Um Steve Carell and you you hear about it in this because Kurt angle was one of the actual athletes that went there. Um, but the yeah the film because when they said Fox catch I thought is that that's the same place. It must be and.

36:57.76
Brian Penn
Right? trying that? yeah.

37:07.20
ukfilmreview
Yeah, the the film obviously because we find out um I won't go into that because actually you should obviously you already know, kind of what happens I guess because you've seen this but um, yeah, fabulous film and also gives you an idea about what we're talking about when we're talking about these these.

37:08.31
Brian Penn
Ah.

37:13.79
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:22.69
ukfilmreview
Athletes going to such levels of training regime exhaust training you call only like trying to basically just outlast their opponent. They go? Yeah well if I'd never get tired then I'll win because eventually the other one's just going to give up.

37:29.44
Brian Penn
That yeah, what? what? I think actually comes through here though is that is the determination dedication to be the best at something. But then as you just mentioned that kind of deflation once you have got there. See old analogy about astronauts that go to the moon or somebody that climbs Mount Everest sad you top it you you've got to the top What do you do? then? do you just stay there. Do you just hold or what do you do? where do you go after that and I suppose really to have a ah. Gold meowwin olympic wrestling doesn't have the same cudos as a gold medal in track and field would have for example so it doesn't kind of you can't build on that necessarily and that's what led him in into Wwe Wwe but I really like cur angle you know. He interviews? Well, he's very downsworth, honest, very candid about his life and that's what makes it even more riveting and really I think this film helps to promote wrestling as a spool because frankly I I'd never heard a cartangle.

38:39.84
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it's funny because I look say I was very much into it for a phase. Yeah when I was a kid and he was in that phase and I think seeing it again was was really nostalgic for me as but oh this is like.

38:44.26
Brian Penn
Yeah.

38:54.94
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and some of the interviewees like um terraine Johnson is on there and um Steve Austin who play who stone calls to Austin yeah with his beer cans I'm going to start doing that at the beginning of shows I'm just going to sma my beer cans together. Um, but yeah I thought that you know that was really.

38:55.82
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stun call Steve Austin ah why not what else? yeah.

39:13.66
ukfilmreview
Powerful to have them in it. It gave a bigger edge because this could have just been like a home movies type sort of thing. But when you also get through to the part of the film where he's dealing with spoilers if you don't want to know this but he's is dealing with painkiller addiction. Um, that.

39:17.33
Brian Penn
The.

39:28.83
Brian Penn
Is.

39:32.90
ukfilmreview
Their input on that in terms of what they're saying to him how they're helping me through it that that was really powerful to me and I really enjoyed that part I felt because like you say angle's great at interviews and he does give you some quite good emotion when he's talking about these things and what he was doing and how many he was taking and oh I was just really.

39:35.42
Brian Penn
You.

39:44.66
Brian Penn
Yes. Anyway, yeah, and I he wasn't over him emotional was he I mean when he was genuinely moved when he was recounting something that happened in his life. He didn't he wasn't bursting into tears. Every 5 minutes was he now again, but you can see when he was showing real emotion. What makes this a very.

39:52.71
ukfilmreview
Terrifying.

39:57.40
ukfilmreview
Yeah, no, no.

40:09.17
Brian Penn
I mean I like ah documentary films I think they're great and I think they're they're um, often underrated within that kind of genre of films generally and they do rank alongside action movies and historical epi. Whatever right? Documentary films have their place and. This is particularly good I put this at the top end of really good documentary films because it tells a story of the rise full and recovery of someone and you don't always get that kind of positive end. You know these sorts of documentary films are often. Leave you on a downer this one doesn't.

40:52.94
ukfilmreview
I oop sorry my ah my Mike yeah, my mic went out there sorry hold on let me just make a note of that hold on 40 minutes for I minutes that 40 minutes right up 41 actually ah that's fine. We'll catch it.

40:53.42
Brian Penn
Yeah, Okay, okay.

41:06.33
Brian Penn
In.

41:09.51
ukfilmreview
But I'm gonna leave a bit of a gap now and I'll be able to come back in.

41:10.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, okay.

41:14.60
ukfilmreview
Yeah, so I think yeah, we're both agreed very powerful documentary. My only I got a small criticism which I don't really need to mention but only I would say is just I think the music and the score.

41:18.98
Brian Penn
Absolutely.

41:31.22
ukfilmreview
Was being quite melodramatic at times like it felt a bit too Well up and down and up and down like trying to like take you on this journey which I don't think it needed to do I Felt like the the content was good enough like it was really compelling. They didn't need to kind of create this artificial. Ah environment for it to feel.

41:32.20
Brian Penn
He.

41:40.97
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, ah.

41:47.14
Brian Penn
Yeah, ah yeah yeah I mean it's yeah, you're right I think he's almost like a prompt isn't it with with the scoring the sounds right? some so some films don't new I don't think it I don't think the film needed.

41:49.72
ukfilmreview
Like oh this is where you should be sad and this is where you should feel that it's It's tense like we kind of knew it was tense like it was clever enough.

42:04.64
ukfilmreview
Not.

42:06.45
Brian Penn
Music. That's all you know some other some films do. But I think you really need to think about whether it's going to enhance the film and a documentary doesn't really need that because you've got you've got the drama there already because of the story that we're hearing. Yeah, he.

42:25.84
ukfilmreview
You go? Um, so the documentary is called angle and you can read the review I think Jason reviewed it on the website. So do go and check it out because um, yeah, see what he made of it and and obviously see whether you align with what what we've said.

42:32.11
Brian Penn
A.

42:38.39
Brian Penn
A.

42:43.41
ukfilmreview
Um, in terms of the film itself I'm just going to see if I can see anything in terms of what they said about release. Um, not that I could see so.

42:57.95
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and I think yeah we had a password protected link. There's no information currently over than an imdb page from what I can see. So yeah, one of those ones where you probably have to check back? Um, but yeah I'm sure if you're following. Um.

42:59.53
Brian Penn
Is.

43:05.52
Brian Penn
And.

43:15.67
ukfilmreview
Any of like maybe even kt engel himself and if not Alex Perry the filmmaker or just drop us a line if you're interested in seeing it. We can always try and coke some more information out of the filmmakers to to get that to you? Um, okay, moving on to a short film now.

43:16.82
Brian Penn
All right? yeah.

43:25.42
Brian Penn
He.

43:33.78
ukfilmreview
Called Gus should get the go. Um, this was again reviewed by Jason on the website um ran and directed by Joseph Rach and stars Marcel Ra who I'm getting related. Um I think that's probably.

43:35.90
Brian Penn
Right.

43:51.20
Brian Penn
Safe bet isn' not really safe bet. Yeah well you you you would give you a relative a part film if he was making it one. Ah no, really.

43:51.81
ukfilmreview
Safe bet I put money on that. Um, along with oh I wouldn't my brother knows that you know I wouldn't put him in a film. No no, he's done too many horrible things to me in the past you know? Yeah, he really teased me as ah as a kid. Um I was that wrestling you know, putting me in in Headlocks and stuff.

44:04.82
Brian Penn
All right? Okay, fair enough. Ah, after enough.

44:11.70
ukfilmreview
Um, but yeah, so the film stars Marcel Rich ah Kayla Kelly and Joey Lundorm and essentially is about ah a young lad ah top teenager sitting in a diner and he is prepping for a big date. He has a date with a girl um later on.

44:26.55
Brian Penn
Oh yeah.

44:31.20
ukfilmreview
And he plans to meet his friend Tim to talk about? Yeah the strategies of you know, wooing women. Um, and yeah, yeah, and it's um, his yeah, he's playing through what he's going to like well yeah, how he's going to come across in the date.

44:37.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, we'll been there when we've all been there. Yeah.

44:49.13
ukfilmreview
And but instead of his friends opening up his friend's mum turns up and our protagonist sees it as an opportunity to just test some of his methods and strategies to see whether they how they go down on his friends. Um, what do you think of this 1 Ryan.

44:50.68
Brian Penn
So he cliff.

45:01.72
Brian Penn
Yeah I really enjoyed it I think it's it was really good. Fun. It's sweet, endearing funny and a fair reflection of the angst. We all go through in adolescence. You know one seems to be cool and grown up impressing a girl. But the awkwardness and fear of failure. It's all in there and I like I like the the the setup whereby he's got the cuuee cards doesn't he trying rehearsing his lines and then this mature attractive woman turns up not instead, but before it all kind of starts and that's Tim's mom I thought right? I'll try I'll try it and I love that I love that I love the simplicity of it and the fact that it isla because we've all been through that and it's it reminds you how awkward and painful it was when we all went through it you know and it's life is learning process. But. Really good, fun. Really enjoyable. Nice, nice and light and speaks a lot of truth and you know films that work the best are the ones that we can see something of ourselves in.

46:10.79
ukfilmreview
Yeah I thought it was one of those films that ah on 1 hand it kind of felt like maybe it was a um project. You know like a school film project that sort of thing that they of okay, we're gonna make a make a thing in the local diamond kind of it was.

46:18.93
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:27.82
ukfilmreview
It felt fairly basic in terms of the set. But then when I started to unpick my feelings on the film. So actually this is quite a rich film here. There's actually quite a lot going on here. It plays on a lot of classic themes and coming of age feelings and Storylines and you've got.

46:38.71
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

46:45.33
ukfilmreview
I think quite a good central performance in particular the mum I think the mum when she comes lends quite a good amount of credence to the performances and I think she also coax is quite a good one out of our our lead Marcel I think that you needed that with a film like this because had it been just you.

46:50.43
Brian Penn
Now E. Is.

47:04.30
ukfilmreview
Young characters I don't know if the the caliber of the acting would have been there but as it is it actually works quite well and some of the camera work is a bit jolting. That's one of my notes I've got it was I was kind of feeling that it was a bit all over the place where they didn't really need to be um, you know.

47:06.97
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:16.40
Brian Penn
Yeah, that Yeah, this fills I mean we're talking earlier about what we understood by the term indie film This feels more like a traditional indie film Really, it doesn't have that that kind of poise and polish. But you know. Doesn't mean it say that it's any less effective but you can see that it that they've got a more limited budget compared to some of the other films that we've reviewed here tonight but it's still it still works but you know as just say say kind of films more like a traditional indie film What you would expect to see in an indie film. You know.

47:54.38
ukfilmreview
Um.

47:54.85
Brian Penn
But I think you're right about the about the mother though she's ah she's a pivotal character in that story right? because straight away. He's kind of uping his game not just in the acting sts. But the character is is kind of going up a notch where this hot day is.

48:13.74
Brian Penn
Around the same age as in that there you've got ah a grown up adult mature woman who's who's kind of teaching him in her own way. You know so I like that too. It's a it's a nice court was sort of spin on a story that we've seen many signs before but it's a question of how you execute it isn't it. You know.

48:29.40
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and yeah, it's it's um, available actually to to watch if people can watch Gush should get the girl on Youtube just search for it I'm sure it will come up. Um, and obviously yeah, again, go to the website to read Jason's review because he was very positive about it too.

48:32.55
Brian Penn
So.

48:38.26
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

48:48.25
ukfilmreview
There's a trailer there. Yeah, if you want to watch the tradeer just just see you get a feel for the film and because like we say the indie films often now are coming out with such a good quality. You'd be good to hear what people think of this one and because we are able to sort of show. It people are able to see it.

48:50.59
Brian Penn
And.

48:58.54
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:07.10
ukfilmreview
Um, so yeah, that's gush should get the girl moving on to an indie feature now from ben a a Cellis a chels shelves the chels a tools. Um, this is a again comedy horror.

49:16.25
Brian Penn
I Chose I chose I choose.

49:24.57
ukfilmreview
Got another comedy horror here. It's what it's labeled as anyway on Imdb um, well ah when I remember this film this I don't remember it I suppose it is yeah ah it be an evil moon is the film and funny. Yeah because there are definitely elements of of comedy. But I i.

49:28.13
Brian Penn
Um, you don't stand convinced there.

49:35.26
Brian Penn
Know.

49:42.58
ukfilmreview
Yeah I suppose it's probably more comedy than horror. Do you want to do the sal. Yeah, what's what's the film about.

49:44.79
Brian Penn
Yeah, okay, then. So yeah, directed by benetil starring Richard Allen in Ray White rod glenn and Gordon Joseph Miller so yeah so we're in keeping with the theme of this episode. Freddy Freddy is a former scientist who now ekes out a living. As a mini-cab driver and also supplies the local gangs with drugs but he has ah a side hustle Freddy is developing a formula to cure hair loss being follically challenged himself. He dreams of the day when he finally cracks the case.

50:18.55
Brian Penn
Has an elderly mother who is bed-bound but prone to the occasional wonder he tries the new formula on his own paint awaking the next morning is her sweet a suit her sweet um with a full beard. Historian know Thy bounds. But what forces there's he unleashed. That's the question isn't it. Um I I think the film generally works very well. It's an interesting new take on on the on the genre. Um, all always say about it.

50:36.76
ukfilmreview
50

50:49.96
Brian Penn
Is that the story seems to tail off a little bit towards the end and doesn't really offer the viewer a satisfactory conclusion I was kind of expecting a bit more now people listening might watch it and think oh no, it's fine but I was I was wanting a bit more but the setup's great. And like the ah the the angle with the the drug data as well because there's all kinds of directions. This storyline could have gone in so it surprises you in that way. But no I thought I thought it was pretty decent.

51:21.30
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think you're right in terms of the ah the plotting I found it similar. Um I thought what it didn't go satisfactory by the end for me I'd enjoyed the bulk of it Actually I thought it was a really good mix.

51:31.40
Brian Penn
So.

51:37.92
ukfilmreview
Because obviously stories about werewolves and and things like that have been done in the past and you're you're you're entering into quite a hallow genre. Really um, that to do a film like this you it needs to be worthy at least to have a good story and I liked it I like the setup the.

51:41.24
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

51:45.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

51:55.90
ukfilmreview
And the latter part of the film funny enough was actually where I thought it was really getting into gear I was so oh here we go like yeah and this is where especially with the landscape the beautiful landscape that they were in and he gets to that cabin. Did you recognize the guy in the cabin. Um, yeah, so.

51:58.46
Brian Penn
E.

52:05.92
Brian Penn
And I and I yeah he looked familiar. Um, ah yeah.

52:14.28
ukfilmreview
Gordon Joseph Miller he was in a film that we reviewed at last year's festival. Um, it was the film set in a pub where he played um but baroness was what it was called. Yeah yeah, and and.

52:18.85
Brian Penn
Right? Okay I yeah I remember yeah we couldn't work out what it was called Baroness that was it wasn't it. Yeah, that one? yeah.

52:34.27
ukfilmreview
He fun of he turned up to the event that I did Ro all the filmmakers there and it really yeah, it was great to see him in this I thought his scene with his partner was probably the best. It was such a great um part. That's the clip that we'll play is's actually him with her talking about the the the story of it being an evil mood and.

52:35.95
Brian Penn
Right. Yeah.

52:45.48
Brian Penn
Yeah.

52:54.90
ukfilmreview
I Thought that was where the film was was should have been more yeah focused on whereas. Actually we got a lot to begin with and it took a long time to get to the bits that were actually a bit more kind of exciting I guess.

52:54.15
Brian Penn
Ah.

52:57.35
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think I think you're right The those conversation tools towards the end were very cleverly put together and. This is where where I think we agreed on this that it kind of tailed off a little bit that it didn't reach that proper conclusion because it was setting something up which it appeared to not necessarily do ah but yeah, it was. It was good. There. There was a lot to enjoy there a lot to enjoy and and lots of. To take in. But yeah, it's It's all Good. Um.

53:36.70
ukfilmreview
And I think like the film that we were going back to the genres like comedy horror. There is this sort of so mix of sinister and silly which does work quite well the funniest bit for me was this bloke that sits out of the back of his house in a deck chair and he just throws a beer can every time he sees him. He just throws a beer can at him.

53:44.89
Brian Penn
Yeah.

53:52.52
Brian Penn
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice go to the yeah.

53:56.10
ukfilmreview
And I thought that is just hilarious I What why he do it. Why is he there? Um, and also there's a bit where someone gets attacked with cgi seagulls that was just that was really funny. Um, so I think yeah, he's got this of zany fun element to it and it's got like this sort of.

54:05.20
Brian Penn
Yeah, that yeah.

54:15.47
ukfilmreview
Ah, interesting premise with the horror story I think where the film slightly lets itself down is it doesn't lean more into that story and give us a bit more because it is actually I don't think it was that long from I remember that I thought so it could have maybe given us a little bit more but that being said, yeah, it's.

54:24.32
Brian Penn
Um, ours for our 21 minutes think yeah yeah.

54:33.66
ukfilmreview
Ah, really worthy interesting. Ah yeah, film people should seek out. Let me just see if we've got any information about a release. Ah there is a Facebook where it says people. But if you search Facebook for it be an evil moon or Twitter ah it be an evil moon on instagram it's Medusa media production. So yeah, there's information out there. There's trailers and things the film you viewing link was a Youtube link I don't know if it was public or not let me check that as well. I don't think it is yeah so it might not be out just yet.

55:03.66
Brian Penn
And.

55:11.87
ukfilmreview
But I've given you some links there in terms of where you can find out more because these films are really hard. Yeah to make a feature film is difficult and to make one that is doing so much as what this is that? yeah hats off to the filmmakers because I think they've done a fabricous job. We just wanted more of it I think.

55:19.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, no yeah, that's right? Yeah I mean all the ingredients there is. It was a great effort but you know like ah like I say it's um.

55:36.70
Brian Penn
Sort of about what you get from it yourself. You know I think we more or less drew the same conclusions to last didn't we a bit about the film itself. But you know someone else can look at it and think and you know, but that's the beauty here of filmmaking ah and watching films like this is that we all get something slightly different from it. But this this is a fine effort and.

55:44.28
ukfilmreview
Um.

55:56.50
Brian Penn
It's all there. But it's a question of how you how you present it and where you go with it. It's got great potential. It's a word I Often come back to with films like this because you think it's all there. It's all in in place but you just got to shape it and develop it. But it's good time. Good stuff.

56:13.40
ukfilmreview
Go it be an evil moon. Um, next up, we're heading to a short film written and directed by Brandon Haynes it's a film called 2 truths and a lie and Chris Buick reviewed this on the website and gave it I think 5 stars and I was like oh.

56:25.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, no Bob Slightman I yeah

56:30.69
ukfilmreview
Um, that's that is a bold statement and having seen the film I can see why it's called 5 stars I love the set for this film. So essentially it's about 3 people from different career backgrounds who all struggle to lie. Um and they are going through a um.

56:38.67
Brian Penn
Ah.

56:50.60
ukfilmreview
Counseling session with a slightly unorthodox counselor who is going to try and get them to be able to lie more comfortably because it affects these people quite seriously So one's like a professional poker player. So off the East Toardo lie and blaff. Um, there's like a social media personality who you can't.

56:52.21
Brian Penn
He he.

57:02.13
Brian Penn
Yeah yet. Well yeah, yeah.

57:10.37
ukfilmreview
Sort get by. But yeah, kind of what the other person was was it a lawyer might be which if it was then that's playing on the whole liar liar um film which you which we've we've seen before? Yeah I think you're right actually? So the the film.

57:12.65
Brian Penn
It's a lawyer isn' it sit a lawyer. It's a lawyer a thing. Why? Well yeah yeah.

57:26.77
ukfilmreview
Works really? well even just with those 3 personalities but I actually agree with Chris's review which he says that this chose st really is the therapist. Um, she is absolutely balmy and she she does things to sort of elicit these responses from them to try and get them to to lie.

57:27.81
Brian Penn
And. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:44.94
ukfilmreview
And it is hilarious. Um, really really funny but also a little bit disturbing if it feels a little bit like on the sort of thriller side at the same time. Did you get that feeling.

57:51.96
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, now of course I think it. It's kind of a it's a mix of all kinds of sort of stars and approaches that yeah it does have elements of thriller strike chiller strike comedy. It's got element all those elements ah mixed in. I think it's good. It's very good. It's such a great premise again, we we talk about the premise don't with the setup. What? What's the basic plot. How does it work and this is brilliant I love the idea of a support group for those who can't help but tell the truth. And the first thing I thought was this is far too big. An idea for a short film. You know we often talk about um the potential that short films have to be something more than than a short film and this could work as a feature film or even a Tv series. You know they've got ah a lawyer poker player.

58:32.15
ukfilmreview
Yeah, yeah.

58:46.97
Brian Penn
And influencer. Yeah, just think of the clients that Melissa could get just imagine people in professions where the need to tell the truth might cause a bit of a problem for them and that needs curing so it's got dynamic potential and you think you give this to a top comedy writer or a top thriller writer.

58:51.32
ukfilmreview
Um.

59:05.77
Brian Penn
This is this is gold. This is pure gold and I completely endorse Chris Buick giving it 5 stars because in context to do what they've done in the space of what twenty twenty minutes fifteen 20 minutes whatever it was that is hell of an effort.

59:24.77
ukfilmreview
I Think so too um and like so I agree I think yeah Web series or film or or show because there's so much I did feel this was one much like the previous film it finished and I was like no no, no, there should be more here more here more here. Please? um.

59:24.87
Brian Penn
Really impressed with it. Yeah.

59:38.58
Brian Penn
Yeah, more more. Yeah, we more? yeah.

59:44.21
ukfilmreview
And I think they only gave you a few different things which she does in terms of like the methods to get them to lie I was like oh that every so more there could have been so many more things to really bring this out. Um.

59:50.47
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

59:58.28
ukfilmreview
Obviously maybe that's the sign of a good film is wanting you to sort of you. You leave you wanting more so I can't always be too so hard on them for that. But yeah, as a as a proof of concept. There's something big here that you could certainly be made further.

01:00:02.38
Brian Penn
Yeah, no, yeah, well well Chris I'll be very surprised if this doesn't go somewhere. You know that that yes, it's a short film. They're working within alysis timeframe. You know that they've got their um you know the the pace to sequencing ah the logical sequence of storie so they have to get into a limited timeframe. They've got all that words out but I would be amaze ifistic didn and go somewhere else. Ah, can't believe that you wouldn't do something more with it with a short film like this but we shall see you never know we might be reviewing a facial length version in a year or so I hope you know because it's an intriguing prospects and you give it I mean it looks to me like it had a pretty decent budget anyway. But.

01:00:51.57
ukfilmreview
50 Ah.

01:00:59.42
Brian Penn
You give it any ah a proper pudgy give it to Netflix give it to you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:03.30
ukfilmreview
Yeah I could really see that because you had a kind of almost black mirror sort of feel to it like not not in terms of total vibe. But in terms of the look and feel of it I was like yeah I could see this working brilliantly as ah in a binge worthy series that someone would watch. Um.

01:01:18.56
Brian Penn
Absolutely.

01:01:19.50
ukfilmreview
Obviously if it does get that far Brandon you do owe us some money because we've big it up to that point. Okay, yeah um yeah I think yeah, we don't want a lot of the pie just some of the pie. Please no. But if you want to find out more about 2 truths and a lie they are on socials.

01:01:24.12
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, what more could I ask for. We can't say fair and that can we really? yeah and I but not greaty are we Chris really.

01:01:38.82
ukfilmreview
So they are using the number 2 so 2 truths a lie. All 1 word on Instagram and Twitter and and it's also they have a website for the main company called gorillawolf.com so yeah

01:01:42.72
Brian Penn
What.

01:01:53.17
ukfilmreview
No reason why you can't find more on that I don't think it is out because we got a password protected link for that one? Um, but yeah, 2 truths in the lie 5 stars. Definitely go see it if you can I think it's fabulous. We are sticking with the short films. Um, going now to.

01:01:58.24
Brian Penn
Ah, ah.

01:02:12.52
ukfilmreview
Elena Vi Clover's short film intern which Joe Beck gave 4 stars on the website and I think yeah, it's 4 or 5 for me I thought this was fantastic I really enjoyed it. Um, so the setup is isaac j plays a intern at this. But basically in the basement I think and there's a group of people there all trying to vie for a position at a company and the internship is about to come to an end for our main characters for career so he's trying his best to. In front of the Ceo and to show him this report that he's made to try and yeah, get his job. Yeah, this, he's he's putting out all the stops. Unfortunately, it doesn't go very well for him he that through calamity and also through people that work there so keeping him out. Um.

01:02:50.52
Brian Penn
Um, I mean.

01:02:56.20
Brian Penn
He's yeah.

01:03:06.64
Brian Penn
Hey Ah, ah.

01:03:07.77
ukfilmreview
Even get stuck in their lift at one point. Um, it doesn't really go too Well then it does sort of change slightly towards the end. Um I thought not only was this a really interesting story and there's lots of great themes about capitalism and and greed and how we perceive employment but also just looked great. It had this strange like.

01:03:18.30
Brian Penn
He. No no.

01:03:27.51
ukfilmreview
Hue to it like a ah greeny kind of hue that made it feel like you're watching something from like the 70 s but felt very modern at the same time. Um, what did you think of intern Brian.

01:03:32.71
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah I Really liked it I think it's very Clever. It's very clever, very insurgent perceptive filmmaking again within a very limited time frame. This is what I find very impressive about the ability to make a short film is that. You give it an enswin fill and you get ah you get a lot of detail there a bit like gus should get the goal. Ah, it's very reliable. It starts off with a concept that we can all understand right? You know there's all we've all been for a job that we really Want. We're all competing.

01:04:11.87
Brian Penn
To be accepted to prove that we're worthy of someone's attention in the work environment and I think the character is called Seth Isn'tney the the main character like it's Seth isn't that um the fact that he's he's trying to pull out the stops and do everything possible. To get this job to nail it but still being asked to jump through numerous hurdles. You know trying to overcome various obstacles obstacles and that is something we can all understand we can all relate to. But yeah, you're right? it's got um visually it's it's good the script's good and it it works because it's it's something that we all get we all get what the the psyche of that character is that he's determined to make all the right noises and get that job. And we can all understand that can't we.

01:05:06.16
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and I think they they matched it with this sort of like his energy like his passion for for trying to the filmmaking kind of has that as well like it feels like it's keeping up them and it feels at times like kind of quirky or frantic or yeah, it's going. It's keeping the.

01:05:16.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. E le.

01:05:26.11
ukfilmreview
Viewer on their toes quite well I found and I think like you say people can relate to this. They can see that it may be in themselves or maybe they've done that at times or even felt that way about something that the central performance is really great I thought I think he does fabulously with the with the role.

01:05:30.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:05:43.60
ukfilmreview
Ah, like the supporting characters this one guy where they they pull the he pull his newspaper down and he just looks totally annoyed that he's been interrupted I Thought yeah, that's just great and that there's always someone at work. That's like that right is always that cynical guy that doesn't say anything. Um.

01:05:49.79
Brian Penn
Yeah, on our kuso is yeah yeah.

01:05:59.40
ukfilmreview
I think they capture that really well they capture this element even though it is kind of a bit of a odd bull strange premise that actually there's a lot of familiarity there as well. There's lots of things that you're going to go? Oh yeah, that feels relatable.

01:06:06.68
Brian Penn
Well well. Also Chris that you know you can make a point by exaggerating you know and you can do that you can you can sort of create a situation that looks. Extreme or far fetcht. But you're making a value point at the same time so you can make a point by exaggerating and that's in some ways. That's what what what? they've done here is to take something to an extreme but still enable the audience to understand what they're getting at which is again, it's very clever though. The word I keep my coming back to with theer. It's clever. Smart smart filmmaking.

01:06:46.79
ukfilmreview
God mean can't say fair on that um inter ah short film is not out as far as I'm aware I might be wrong on that but you can find them on Instagram so act intern film or 1 word and. The review as well. Do go check out Chris beock's very glowing review I think really does delve into the film and and what he liked about it. Let us know if you are able to ever see it. Let uss know what you think um, it's always nice to to hear from our listeners now this next.

01:07:13.14
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:07:23.80
ukfilmreview
Short film was one I reviewed on the website. Um and another five stuff film. Um, yeah, ah so it's called the 1 note man and I feel like because I reviewed it I'm gonna let you do the synopsis on this because.

01:07:25.19
Brian Penn
I Know so I say so I say I deserve is well deserved. It's very well deserved.

01:07:41.00
Brian Penn
Okay, oh that you might gush too much shall I be a bit harder on it na can't can I can't really I thought I might give a bit of a contrast but I don't think I can really well. Okay, then so directed by George Suga Shoe gas

01:07:43.80
ukfilmreview
I might I might I might gush too much you? Yeah yeah.

01:07:56.28
ukfilmreview
So sugas. Yeah, happy that. So.

01:08:00.39
Brian Penn
Starring Jason Watkins ah it's a simple but lovable tale about a musician who plays the obo in an orchestra and his only contributions to the piece is 1 solitary note the musician leads a hum drumm existence but is secretly in love with a lady that plays the Violin in the same orchestra crippled by shyness. He tries. And his own way to impress her. He stealthily builds up his part much to the annoyance of the conductor but will the pretty violinist respond to his delicate advances I absolutely love this I think it's fantastic. Um, as you pointed out in your review Chris there are shades of groundhog day here

01:08:37.47
ukfilmreview
Are.

01:08:39.78
Brian Penn
Ah, is packed with symbolism isn't it really? Ah, a gray life represented by this 1 note and an obsession with minor say you know with loose strands on his jacket and a toothbrush always pointing upwards I guess the moral we're hear is that love will eventually set him free. Um, it benefits hugely from Jason Watkins and the title royal very familiar a we seen him ah on on film and Cb and he makes a lot of short films doesn't he you know I think we reviewed a short film of piece last year if I remember right? Yeah and um.

01:09:10.39
ukfilmreview
Yeah I've remember seeing me in a few things here.

01:09:16.68
Brian Penn
That's that's a big plus some good cameos there poor barber trigger for moni falls and horsess't it. Um, so that that's again, another strength but the biggest strength of this film in my opinion Chris in my humble opinion is that there are there is no scripts. You know.

01:09:22.43
ukfilmreview
Yep.

01:09:34.95
Brian Penn
You know I Love words I Love words I'm fascinated by the power of words. But here words aren't necessary. You don't need a script that means that without any dialogue there are no language barriers. It has universal appeal. You could.

01:09:40.96
ukfilmreview
In.

01:09:52.30
Brian Penn
Plays at any audience in any country in the world. Any culture whoever you whoever you take it to they will understand this will they'll get it because there are no language Barriers. No need for subtitles only for dubbing nothing but they see a very human story unfolding here I think it's beautiful. Um, see beautiful.

01:10:13.72
ukfilmreview
Well I'm glad I actually get my review in before you came and yeah, made it even you made me look silly Brian but in ah how yeah how profound you've done in your review and I looked like a little five year old with my review. But yeah now i.

01:10:17.88
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, well I was only trying to and enhance it Chris myself you know.

01:10:28.10
Brian Penn
No, but yeah I'm so yeah nine that so ah 9 No no, that's where we're agreed on that absolute.

01:10:29.16
ukfilmreview
Yeah, I'm glad that we are on the same page with this one because yeah, it's always yeah when you love a film you kind of think oh am I going to be on my own here I would have absolutely fought my corner but I'm glad that you are on the same page. Um, it is one of those films like you say is it's universal. Anyone can enjoy this film. Um. And watkins is amazing. He's so good in this film because he's got that kind of like Mr Bean kind of feel not not in terms of like that silliness but in terms of the physical performance. It really is sort of that slight embellishment and slight kind of exaggeration to just.

01:10:49.79
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's great. Great answer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

01:11:07.87
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:11:08.38
ukfilmreview
Really bring the audience in because otherwise you could just be oh why do I care? Um, and there's all these little moments. There's so many moments in my review I picked out ah crystal you who plays the um conductor giving him the eve Why when he sort of ends up causing a bit of a ruckus that.

01:11:18.20
Brian Penn
Can that. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:26.10
ukfilmreview
It's those things they're small things but actually it made it feel quite British It made it feel like this is our sense of humor. Yeah, we we really enjoy these sort of stories and this filmmaking I thought it was just excellent. The the class that is is great I liked though.

01:11:29.17
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's very yeah, yeah, absolutely.

01:11:43.78
ukfilmreview
The way that it also does play with the audience quite a bit because there is a first you're watching. Okay, he just yeah, go for his humdrum life and there's like a almost like a slapstick field to him just going in and out of the same route then there's a quite a like almost like a.

01:11:47.56
Brian Penn
E.

01:11:58.13
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:12:01.63
ukfilmreview
Sad kind of feeling to it of you know him actually his experience then you get this love story and the meat cute because like he hadn't really noticed this other violinist and then it becomes a love story so you get a lot in this really short spacetime. This wouldn't work as any longer. It is exactly as long as it needs to be um.

01:12:04.72
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I know and I no I get.

01:12:20.14
ukfilmreview
Because it's perfectly you in tune to ah pay on palm there. It's perfect in tuned with what what the odd what the audience is gonna want and expect from a film like this and every part of it is needed. Every single bit was like that is.

01:12:23.25
Brian Penn
Yeah, Oh yeah, very good. Yeah. Yeah, it's I part it is like padding is a no yeah.

01:12:36.54
ukfilmreview
Just perfect. Yeah, there's no padding. There's nothing in there. You can't think well okay, well you could have cut that down a bit. Um and for a film that doesn't rely on dialogue that's huge and it's not I wouldn't say it's even that sure I can't remember how long it was I'm thinking about 20 minutes was it so some of that that it's not like it was like a 3 minute

01:12:50.54
Brian Penn
It's about yeah 20 minutes probably yeah yeah.

01:12:56.17
ukfilmreview
Music video. You know it was like yeah that's a long film for some short films. They fit a whole feature length in that that time and but to to do this without any dialogue I think is really ambitious to do it with this cast as well like you've got to be pretty confident about the film. You're going to make if you've got no dialogue and you're hiring these people to be in it.

01:12:56.98
Brian Penn
Um, nice. Yeah yeah.

01:13:07.37
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, no yeah I I reckon for an answer. That's a very difficult part to play if you've got no scripts the the major tool that you have as an answer.

01:13:16.60
ukfilmreview
You know me I.

01:13:26.25
Brian Penn
Is a scripts isn't that all right, you get an outline with with what is basically this you could call it a silent movie because there's no dialogue but they get an outline but that they don't get a script so you've taken some a vital tour away from an actor so it becomes a much more difficult part to play. You know what what I was thinking when I was watching it. You know it's almost Charlie Chaplin -esque in its approach is that and that's ah, that's a strength really, you know you you kind of realize how great charlie chaplin was and that charlie chaplalin was around today.

01:13:51.48
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah I thought that yeah.

01:14:02.52
Brian Penn
I'm sure he would totally approve and you know to me to me. That's the greatest compliment you could paint a film like this because that's the the benchmark That's the standard of an approach to making a film but absolutely brilliant. Absolutely brilliant really is.

01:14:19.98
ukfilmreview
And just to also note Ian Mccallum does a bit of narration that is someone one of the only bits of dialogue that you do get? Um, yeah so I mean if there was anything you could add on. Yeah, it's kind of.

01:14:21.53
Brian Penn
Yeah, you don't yeah yeah, right at beginning beginning and the end wasn't it.

01:14:36.55
ukfilmreview
Like what ingredient you're going to stick on to just improve something that's already perfect. It's goingnna be the voice of Ian Mckellen yeah it's gonna be okay, yeah now it's done now. It's finished it doesn't there's yeah, it's only going to make it better. Only gonna make it better. Um, yeah, amazing. really really good

01:14:41.17
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah to get that caliber of actors involved I mean Jason Watkins Ear Mckellen Sit I Mckellen and also. You know Joanna Klein who played the the violinist you know, very well-known one and actually who you would instantly recognize and also Paul barber plays the florist doesn't they you know is to get all those touches nice touches and get these people involved it shows how good it is.

01:15:17.38
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

01:15:17.69
Brian Penn
Yeah, how much it's racing when you get that calibre of a involved So that's another great Great plus.

01:15:24.17
ukfilmreview
So that was the 1 note man um, do go read my review. Um, if you've got lovely things to say about my writing send them to me if you've got not so nice things to say ah send them somewhere else. Um, the.

01:15:27.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, absolutely.

01:15:38.74
ukfilmreview
The film if you want to find out more. They have a websites so called cusp films so that's CUSPF ILMSDot code at UK so that's their website and they are on social media so Twitter be at Cust Films instagram it's at cusp underscore films. So and I'm pretty sure the film is not out yet.

01:15:44.11
Brian Penn
Ah.

01:15:56.32
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:15:57.35
ukfilmreview
Um, I'm pretty sure it is doing the festival run because I follow them on socials and they are talking a lot about festivals at the moment. However, it's the kind of film I could see it being released. Um, um, and people will will be able to watch on something like Om letter or something like that. Um.

01:16:03.18
Brian Penn
Ah.

01:16:10.18
Brian Penn
Should be shouldn't it really? Yeah, Ah yeah.

01:16:16.16
ukfilmreview
So that's the one that man and that's the end of our indie films leaving us only the nostalgia pick for this month um as we say it's a horror month. Um, so we are obviously going to head to disney you know that's where we're going Disney plus obviously um.

01:16:26.97
Brian Penn
Nice. Ah.

01:16:29.32
Brian Penn
Now. Yeah, obviously obviously obviously where else.

01:16:34.57
ukfilmreview
I I picked I wanted something from Disney price because I felt that yeah we we've done Netflix for the streaming pick and this this head to Disney ive I had never seen the omen now I put it? No so I put it as the nostalgia p because this is partly what the nostalgia pick is for which is.

01:16:43.60
Brian Penn
Really.

01:16:53.90
ukfilmreview
Those films which you kind of should have seen that you filled out. Maybe it gives you a reason to watch them. Um, and I thought I'd send the omen reference so many times like in pop culture do know always comes to mind. He's only fools and horses because of like Damien and like yeah um that I was like ah you not.

01:16:53.85
Brian Penn
5

01:17:00.89
Brian Penn
Yes.

01:17:07.88
Brian Penn
Of Damien yeah, ah ah absolutely I had a long time ago though you know these I it came out in 9076 I never realized it was that old actually I thought it was a bit more recent.

01:17:11.56
ukfilmreview
I'm gonna this is it. This is a good reason to watch it Um, had you seen it before. Okay.

01:17:25.56
Brian Penn
Ah, may have been thinking of the 2 sequels that they made but the original film came out in something 6 I would have seen it the first time possibly 10 years after because of that time films would take four or five years to appear on on the small screen so it probably would have been.

01:17:28.62
ukfilmreview
Um.

01:17:43.75
Brian Penn
The midacs when I first saw it. But I've not seen it for a very long time. So this for me would is a bit you know we will say don't we that if you've not seen the film for years. You can see it with a fresh pair of eyes. So yeah I have seen it above.

01:18:00.19
ukfilmreview
Um, it's also quite good with this nostalgia pick because you get that chance to go is it how I remember and you go back and watch your film and go Okay, yeah, actually and that is as good like we we did fight Club I'd sent so many times when I was younger I watched it again I was like yeah night still holds up still great. Um.

01:18:00.89
Brian Penn
Sent previously Byarian Islam other.

01:18:06.40
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah out Costa.

01:18:17.89
ukfilmreview
With ah with this um I hadn't seen it but it has a lot of similarities to films of that era of films I have seen you know 70 s horrors and things like that. Um it is one of the films as well that it has a place in horror legacy in terms of like.

01:18:25.81
Brian Penn
Yeah I.

01:18:34.76
Brian Penn
Is yeah.

01:18:37.35
ukfilmreview
What it's done and and things are um so the story centers around Gregory Peck's character. He's an ambassador called Robert Thorne who very very early on in the film. They lose their child um in the hospital and in order to.

01:18:50.00
Brian Penn
No.

01:18:56.61
ukfilmreview
Not cause his wife any distress or pardon any distress someone offers him the chance of having another child that sadly lost their mother childbirth So kind of a well you know take this one instead situation. Um as you do and.

01:19:09.50
Brian Penn
I Should do yeah I should do yeah.

01:19:15.86
ukfilmreview
Years go by and he sort of his life kind of becomes he comes quite successful in his career but the child starts to seem a bit odd to be honest bit weird um bit sinister and it all comes to a head when.

01:19:24.80
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:19:32.77
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's the it's anani isn't it the na he.

01:19:33.80
ukfilmreview
Someone dies at there a picnic. Um, she is that the first that's for some entry where she goes out the window right? Yeah yeah, the nanny um and from there only gets weirder and also the a priest or something just kind of keeps trying to track. Gregory Preck's character down and warns him of this warns that actually this child presents more evil than he may be prepared for and it all links into the church so they must stop him at first obviously he doesn't really believe him but then more more things start to happen and chaos and violence ensue.

01:19:53.74
Brian Penn
Um.

01:20:00.66
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, not he can yeah.

01:20:11.43
ukfilmreview
It escalates into horror territory. Um, what did you think watching this again Brian how did you feel like watching this seventy s horror film in 2023

01:20:22.00
Brian Penn
I think it's still it still works. It still definitely works alongside the wicker man now we've mentioned the wicker man before haven't we but alongside the wicker man this film is the benchmark for all horror movies. They get the basics right? You know great directs through Richard donnna. Great car sc Gregory Peck a genuine film legend Lee Remick Billy Whitelaw David Warner Patrick Trouston who plays the priest you know they all excellent actors know what they're doing so they got all the basics right? You know and a very strong story that's telling. Ah. Quite as kind of an explicit tale really you know a bit about the the kind of the mirror image of Jesus isn't it really? you know the the son of the devil and ties in with with Bludgeon and religious symbolism. It's it's still shocking.

01:21:12.45
ukfilmreview
Um.

01:21:20.60
Brian Penn
still feels shocking it still works you know there are certain scenes in the film that still make me shocking. You know I don't often get affected in that way by a horror movie but some films do it to me and this is one of them. You know one you can pick out all kinds of scenes that that will shock you and. Linger in the memory but the where where um Lee Remicks Remis characters of the mother is on the stairs trying to fix the light and the kid comes along on it on his bike or when he's tricycle that is a generally shocking scene. It really is and it does make you make you.

01:21:45.92
ukfilmreview
So yeah.

01:21:57.82
Brian Penn
Jump out you see for it Momentarily big. Yeah yeah, and that's very true. Yeah, that's that's obviously where where they got it from then wasn't it that you know in some ways all all films are derivative aren't I of something else of something you've seen.

01:21:57.85
ukfilmreview
It did remind me a lot of the shining. So I was like that felt very akin right? The bike.

01:22:16.65
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

01:22:17.10
Brian Penn
Previously you know and that's why I think the the omen is so influential that they get lots of they draw on lots of ideas that they that they put down in a film like um omen but it works you know it does what it's supposed to do and it. Even though it is what 47 years old. You know it still manages to be thought provoking disturbing scary with it with very few special effects with pretty basic. Um. Effects that you know they represent this the 70 s in some ways where there was nothing I don't know you film you filmed the omens today right? You imagine what you could do with all the techniques and tricks and wizardry you got at your disposal now. But I don't think they could make that film any better now than they did then if you see what I'm getting at yeah.

01:23:16.48
ukfilmreview
Now I think that oh hundred percent when it comes to horror like if you've got practical effects. They still work way better than ah yeah cgi and I think it's the kind of film where they're doing.

01:23:22.54
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:23:30.58
ukfilmreview
A lot of supernatural big stuff like they've got the hell hounds. They've got the there's a storm at 1 point that kind of goes crazy that it's like they had to do all that like that those were real dogs. You know that was a real um storm that they had to recreate like using effects. It's like that.

01:23:32.93
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:23:43.68
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:23:48.88
ukfilmreview
That has to be applauded. You have to so and that's why it stands up I think because it's like well you did it. You made it whereas I think with um, anything cgi even 105 years you'll you'll notice because technologies change and the way that they've done that is very different but it's still in the same ballpark. But with this.

01:23:50.57
Brian Penn
A.

01:24:00.21
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:24:06.27
ukfilmreview
It is just you've made it happen. Um I did find I like the film I like that there was a lot of heritage here in terms of horror filmmaking I've so so many beats like oh they've they've referenced that in this film. They've referenced that in this film. So I like that Obviously this is kind of like ah an Og story.

01:24:06.40
Brian Penn
Thing.

01:24:21.12
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:25.20
ukfilmreview
I did feel that it it was on my house I was taking itself quite seriously which I found hard because I say with me in horror I don't I think if everyone's taking really seriously I get a bit bored if I doesn't feel that fun I wouldn't say it was that fun of a film Um, with.

01:24:32.81
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's very serious isn't it. Yeah, no yeah.

01:24:43.48
ukfilmreview
Yeah, with the conference earlier that this is perfectly my at my street Yo it's It's funny. It's fun, but it's also got some scares and it's a bit terrifying with this. It was just trying to be scary but also playing very heavily into the religious side of things which I just found. Okay, yeah, like that's that's fine. Um, that.

01:24:54.95
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:25:02.76
ukfilmreview
And also some of the some of the effects were a bit overbearing like the the music and the lighting that you're watching just going. Okay, okay, all right? Yep calm it down calm but that is obviously you're talking about a film made decades ago that it's the style has changed and you know.

01:25:09.16
Brian Penn
Yeah I know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:18.60
ukfilmreview
Imagine seeing this in a cinema at time but it was like oh my god like experience whereas watching it on Disney Blas and toy fake free is a bit like I can yeah calm it down. Um, but I do I also I think a sign of a good film is if there is more films that you want to watch and I finish this and thought you know what I'm going to try and check out.

01:25:24.87
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I yeah.

01:25:35.26
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, it still the character that they're developing isn't it because if you sorry Chris come.

01:25:36.26
ukfilmreview
Omen too like I feel like I want to know because it's it's the same character isn't it like later on yeah well I just thinking we probably should have put a spoiler in there but do we need to put spoilers for films that are over 4 years old guess. Ah, now we'll get letters but I just.

01:25:49.28
Brian Penn
Oh what? then I would you reckon ah delete the less this Yeah okay from yeah yeah, Okay, yeah, yeah, that kind of got.

01:25:54.13
ukfilmreview
Delete them? Yeah by which I mean burn them. Yeah.

01:26:02.81
Brian Penn
Is in keeping with with the horror theme isn't it really is Yeah yeah, oh yeah, it's very good. But yeah so I think you're right? They um the the music is a bit heavy handed that was more about the style the approach to filmmaking in in the S simtics though.

01:26:03.39
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it's very practical way of getting rid of stuff. Yeah.

01:26:22.44
Brian Penn
That's one of the one of the sort of triggers that that could date you think oh that's definitely the seventys but you know I ah suppose I could look upon that and say right? That's that's what makes it what it is that it's it' the time capsule you know and it's. <unk>s great to see london because he was a diplomat wasn't he that got posted to london so it's it's great to see london in in the sim sea. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:49.31
ukfilmreview
That does. Yeah I thought that too I thought I looked great and after they're out and about filming in real locations. So yeah, no, that was good. Um there's a lot to the aim and that I enjoyed I just felt that there will definitely be ah, an audience of people who are used to the sort of ah possession style. Um, films. Yeah, like hereditary and the witch that they'll watch this and go oh okay, like it does feel dated in some ways but I also do feel that as a pregressor to a lot of those films and also some of the stuff. Um, that Edgar Wright has done if you watch some of Edgar Wright's films. There's a bit.

01:27:07.30
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah.

01:27:13.45
Brian Penn
Game that.

01:27:20.68
Brian Penn
Yeah, oh absolutely? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I know yeah.

01:27:25.17
ukfilmreview
In this where something falls off the roof of the church and it impales someone I was like that is literally from hot fires like they they hot fuzz is obviously reference and I think that a lot of these filmmakers that are making modern horrors or modern films like that will have used this as a.

01:27:39.94
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's the it's the big daddy in somebody. It's the big daddio of horror movies because you know they'll they'll look at that and they think right because there are only so many ways you can do something and a visual trick a storyline.

01:27:42.00
ukfilmreview
Touch point. And yeah I think that's good. It's a big duddy.

01:27:59.61
Brian Penn
It's got to be done the first time right? It's done the first time then other filmmakers will refine. It. They'll adapt. It. They'll update it and someone like egar right? will will pay tribute will will name check those films if you look closely and it's very solid. You know some directors are very good at it. Um, they'll they'll put a subtle nod in to ah a film that was maybe maybe forty or fifty years ago you know the likes oforses Coppolom Spillberg have made careers out out of drawing on classic movies from the 50 s and sixty s so you know everything is derivative. You know you. You really need to look hard to find the originals the the source of the films that we see today. But that's the that's the way of the world. That's how you do it, you know and that's that you know we've got the fun part of it haven't we we got the we can watch and pick it all up.

01:28:54.70
ukfilmreview
And pick it all apart which is what we do? Um so that's the omen and as I said earlier available on Disney plus if you want to watch it I believe the next one's on there. So that's where I'll be watching that.

01:28:55.30
Brian Penn
I'm pick it all apart as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:04.72
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, I'll have to do that as well see you might as well finish yeah carry on Yes, only right.

01:29:07.11
ukfilmreview
Um, other thought yeah when you kind of think well actually. Ah yeah I've started now. So I'm mean as well carry on as I finished. Um, so if you have any scary films. Do you want to let us know that you've watched and ah great to send in your reviews. We'll happily play them on this show.

01:29:20.33
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:29:26.88
ukfilmreview
Um, but that is it for this quite bumper pack episode. We've gone through a lot 6 indie films there um as well as the 2 cinema films the streaming release and a nostalgia pick I mean you get all this free in your ears. So you know or more could you ask for luxury. Um, next month.

01:29:30.74
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

01:29:38.88
Brian Penn
What more could you ask for? really luxury.

01:29:46.66
ukfilmreview
Will be our November episode going into December so it may be we get a bit festive. We might get a festive the next episode you know? Yeah yep, so if you want us? Yeah, send us your your recommendations for the best Christmas film and maybe that will be our nostalgia pick.

01:29:52.90
Brian Penn
Why not yet? Yeah yeah, it's a bit of a season thereres you' you're soment in them Aren you it season them. Yeah, yeah.

01:30:05.86
ukfilmreview
We also have a couple of films already submitted from indie filmmakers for that episode 2 So this has been uk film club part of the Uk film of your podcast I have been your host Chris Horson and Brian pen as always has been my my lovely assistant I'll say lovely assistant not just assistant.

01:30:13.86
Brian Penn
Oh yes.

01:30:22.38
Brian Penn
Thank thank you very much that one. Ah yeah I've got a drawline somewhere Honestly I really have pleasure pleasure as always.

01:30:23.75
ukfilmreview
My lovely assistant Paige doesn't wear the costumes that I buy him. So.

01:30:32.47
ukfilmreview
Ah, Pushers Always thank you for joining us and thank you if you have stuck all the way to the end. You are a real trooper but that's it for now.

01:30:40.21
Brian Penn
Bye for now.