UK Film Club - 10a: Indie & Short Film Special

00:00.00
ukfilmreview
Hey Bri I'm good. Thank you? Yeah, we're here we're here it has it feels it has poignant. It feels. We've made it through I mean this is episode 10 a but.

00:00.24
Brian Penn
I Chris are you do we're here this spread light has come on for the final sign in the sheer isn't it now I know. Right? Okay, yeah, it's a bit It's a bonus isn't it. Well yeah, we've done all right haven't we we're done all right for sops. But.

00:19.78
ukfilmreview
Technically this episode 12 because we've done this is like another indie special. Um, it's a bonus episode. But yeah 12 episodes in a year not bad. not bad

00:32.95
Brian Penn
You know I'm really pleased with the way it's develops and the way it's working out. You know it was. It was a great idea of yours Chris I mean you you were the the brain shell behind all of this I mean I merely joined in for the ride and one good idea. Let's make the most of it though and so so.

00:36.28
ukfilmreview
I Think so too would be.

00:45.77
ukfilmreview
I get 1 good idea every five years that's why I've worked out. Yeah yeah.

00:52.64
Brian Penn
So we've we've just got to wait for the next really good ideas to come through then we're really laughing aren't we because yeah, well have a good idea. Yeah I mean I might come up with a half decent idea in 5 years you never know.

00:54.84
ukfilmreview
Yeah I mean who knows what it'll be but it could be a big and or it could be a certain flavor of crisp you know I just have a good idea 5 years in you know. Are you trying enough Brian do you sit and write your ideas down because I bet you have loads.

01:11.27
Brian Penn
Write your ideas down. Yeah course I do I mean I have a hundred ideas a day but I mean how many of them are actually half decent how many of those are half usable. They might be 4 or 5 but you see I suppose whilst you're showing those ideas throwing those ideas around. And that you've got all this fantastic input from what we do here from the films who watched Tv that we watch newspapers that we read the magazines that we read. You know you're getting these ideas you're getting this stimulation from so many different sources now and it it can spark off ideas you know. That's what's really exciting about it.

01:49.52
ukfilmreview
Yeah, know we have to do now is just say yeah and turn that into an app. You know if you got a great idea someone will just turn it into an app for you I don't know where you go is there is there a a shop. Yeah, where they do that little elve somewhere making apps for us.

01:54.52
Brian Penn
Be Yeah yeah, yeah that there must be mustn't there surely? yeah with there isn't There should be that someones and someone has to spotster the gap in the market. That's for sure.

02:07.27
ukfilmreview
Chip it exactly. Ah.

02:12.33
Brian Penn
We either that or we or we do a J K rolling and we write ah an international best. So oh yeah.

02:17.34
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, there's always that I always have that as my backup if I need to I'll write an international bestseller and just to get me through you if is there ever a tough time. Um, no.

02:19.64
Brian Penn
3 it's not so difficult you know Chris it really isn't you just hit on the right idea you capture the public's imagination. You're laughing happening.

02:33.14
ukfilmreview
There you go and there are anyone listening if you're wondering. Yeah, what can I do to you know, just have that you safety net just just write a best seller and just sit and write one what you're doing sitting here listening to us. Ah.

02:38.41
Brian Penn
Yeah, see the you know plenty of rainy days out there. You know that's what you do when when it's raining you write a bests selling novel. Yeah yeah I like that that's yeah so I heard it. Yeah I heard it brilliant. Yeah.

02:51.94
ukfilmreview
Do you see that put into no drums for you. Did you did you hear that? Ah, ah.

02:58.58
Brian Penn
Ah, it even sort of showed up on this on the tremor the tremor line you know where we yeah I know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it.

03:00.69
ukfilmreview
Oh you got a little vibration on the sound waves. Yeah well they put it in for me and I thought you're not going to use it every time I think something sort of you know, actually not even I don't want I think funny I want it to be kind of standing out as maybe something innocuous and I just hit the drums. You know it's good.

03:15.43
Brian Penn
Like yeah I know you're go to get carried away with this thing aren y'all can sell yeah already there? Yeah, but is your first.

03:20.21
ukfilmreview
I am there I am already looking at think I should probably delete that but it's fine. It's fine for now. Um, if this is your first time to Uk Film Club Welcome and my name is Chris Olson I am your host along with Brian Penn say hello Brian.

03:28.62
Brian Penn
Film My name ised I am your host hello by Hello hello.

03:36.99
ukfilmreview
And um and we are film critics at Uk Film review and we have a podcast where we review all types of film now if you listen to our normal episodes that get released. We go through a cinema pick. We go through a streaming pick. We do a bunch of indie films and then we do a nostalgia pick now.

03:43.61
Brian Penn
Oh dog of left.

03:56.14
ukfilmreview
When we have a little bit of an influx of indie films to review you get what this is which is a in the only special episode So we're just covering indie films in this episode and we've got some absolute cauckers. Um, there's shorts. There's features. There's even a web series. So.

03:58.12
Brian Penn
All details. Yeah. In the only Spec just covering in the.

04:08.51
Brian Penn
4 but hi being.

04:15.21
ukfilmreview
We do have a lot to cover and but yes, thank you all for being here and if you've been with us for the whole time If you've listened to every single episode I would say do question what you're doing with your life. But also thank you. Thank you for being with us we we do appreciate it. Um, we have listeners all over the world and it makes us very very happy.

04:28.78
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, thank you? Yeah yeah.

04:35.15
ukfilmreview
Um, yes, but tonight is just about indie films because we have so many only people wanted us to look at their films and that is a true honor and we got some great ones here. Just I mean as an overview Brian the caliber that we were reviewing tonight. What did you think.

04:40.13
Brian Penn
Is so many that the yeah has an overview by yeah, Story high. You know if you if you look at um, our own personal history where we had the festival that reviewed independent features now through through film club. The standard is incredibly high and I can't quite work Out. What's making the standard Improve. Why is it getting better.

04:54.65
ukfilmreview
Um.

05:13.56
Brian Penn
Because I don't think they have bigger budgets. They're still operating on a shoestring but the standard is incredibly high and it's such a mixed bag What we're looking at here as well. But there's real stand out says real potential there. So very impressed.

05:17.57
ukfilmreview
E.

05:27.42
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think you're right? Yeah, the the standard just generally of filmmaking because obviously we both write for the site but largely yeah you you write sort of the for the film Cinema but you do do the odd sort of Indian short and I'll I'll chip him sort of when things get a little bit heavy. But when I do chip in. Um.

05:35.60
Brian Penn
Don Cinema ah you do the old. Yeah I don't know how you from present. Do.

05:45.20
ukfilmreview
Wow yeah, these yeah going from what filmmakers were doing say five six years ago to now I don't know if it was covid maybe that whole pandemic just gave a lot of artistic people time to hone their craft and really think about their stories because that's another thing the storytelling has become very strong like.

05:48.68
Brian Penn
Five years ago now yeah after I need to yeah ne cro yeah, really think about the storie yeah story telling is um, very strong. Yeah in intoville ruby today.

06:02.94
ukfilmreview
In some of the terms of review today. It's it's going to be impressive in terms of what they've managed to do like you say with a shoesetring budget. It's it's incredible.

06:07.10
Brian Penn
What they manage to do yeah well ah suppose what you'd have to say about any independent feature that it's all about this story isn't it. They don't have the money to spend on visuals. Do they at so so they can't have Mastercar chases or you know the visuals just aren't there. They can't afford them.

06:15.30
ukfilmreview
Me.

06:26.79
Brian Penn
You know so they have to put all their energies into the strength of the story which really is what all films should be about what's the story. What's the the standard of storytelling light that comes through or it should come through a lot more strongly in independent features.

06:41.60
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think so too. So what we're Goingnna do is we're goingnna get started. That's what we're gonna do. We're going to start with a short film directed and written and starring Steve Sorentino amends of the father. So.

06:44.72
Brian Penn
Then sorry. All right? So I.

06:57.40
Brian Penn
Menu. Yeah, so.

07:00.83
ukfilmreview
Ah, drama. Um, so drama come comedy come thriller I guess bit of everything this one. You've got a musician in the 80 s um, played by Stephen Ferentino who is looking to have a resurgence in his.

07:07.70
Brian Penn
It's a bit of everything isn't it. It's a sp of everything thrown in there.

07:19.60
Brian Penn
Career. Okay.

07:19.76
ukfilmreview
Popular music career. He plays a character called Tony Kay who was a bit of a hit a in the 80 s and kind of had a but this is all fictional. He had a um career ah full of what would you call sex drugs in rock and roll I guess was the phrase.

07:34.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

07:38.45
ukfilmreview
Um, lots of you know, infamous notorious behavior going on. Um and is now looking to make a comeback through kind of any means necessary. He seems very very set on.

07:41.29
Brian Penn
This is a going one and.

07:49.30
Brian Penn
Any means necessary so you very set. Being famous really I mean 1 of the big things goes on. Yeah.

07:54.43
ukfilmreview
Being famous Really I think that's one of the big themes that goes on in the film. Um, first he visits one of his former bandmates I think in a bar that tries to convince him to yeah, get on board with his comeback and then he decides to visit his son who.

08:05.31
Brian Penn
Um.

08:10.50
Brian Penn
Is his own right? Very successful. Definitely not gonna give away the end. No no, no absolutely not ending.

08:12.71
ukfilmreview
Is in his own right? A very successful pop Star I'm definitely not going to give away the ending on this one because ah my God I did not see that coming but I think the ah ending is really worth it. But yeah, it's her of his journey. He's He's also going to. Substance abuse support groups or or you certainly help groups to sort of try and deal with his issues. Busy Anger management maybe and is then trying to go through those steps. Yeah,, there's the the steps of sobriety and all those sort of things. Um.

08:34.51
Brian Penn
Manage the baby. Yeah I.

08:40.11
Brian Penn
Go through this? Yeah yeah, yeah I really enjoyed it. It's following a familiar storyline about a pop star who was once that it got to be the next big thing then wasn't.

08:45.12
ukfilmreview
What did you think of amend's of the father Brian it's good. Wasn't it here.

08:58.66
Brian Penn
And that familiar spiral of drugs drink dependency addiction that downward spiral now he's trying to make a comeback but you have the added dimension of this relationship that he has or lack of a relationship that he has with his son who's now. All the things that he dreamed of being in a lot of ways where he's ah he's son Brandon is ah he's a grammy winning pop star who's got it all everything that he wish she had or that he could have had had fate and circumstances been slightly different.

09:26.66
ukfilmreview
In.

09:34.99
Brian Penn
This film is only 40 so 46 minutes long but I I was glued to it. You know when you're watching something online. You can pause it go away. Come back again. But I was glued to my pc for for 46 minutes but it's very easy to leave it. It's very easy to push hit the pause button. Leave it for a little bit. Do something else, get a drink. Whatever make a cup of tea. But this you know keeps everything in focus. It makes sure that you watch him as a carrots. So a very compelling Carat. So someone that you you immediately invest in that you're curious about. And also the songs are really good as well. You know that there's a there's a there was a song on the intro called baby blue which I thought was excellent, really good and I think I'm writing saying that Steven Soencino wrote the songs as well. Yeah, yeah, so.

10:11.76
ukfilmreview
Yeah, there were some hits there.

10:23.30
ukfilmreview
I Think so yeah, so it's one of those films that it comes up and his name is just kind of in a lot of the places.

10:30.90
Brian Penn
You got you got to be impressed by that that he's done more or less everything himself. That's one thing I've noticed in the films that we're looking at sonoying is that people have taken the reins on every level that a lot of it is written produced directed edited by 1 person. Again, it plugs into the idea of a truly independent film that you don't have the budget to get lots of people involved but here you know it. It can often lose focus when you've got 1 person having too much control. We've spoken about this before haven't we that where one person's involved in so much.

11:04.67
ukfilmreview
Um, mean.

11:08.24
Brian Penn
It loses focus but this doesn't and as you say there there is a a finale a climax that I never I never saw coming so and it makes it an even stronger effort because it doesn't End. It's not predictable because when you watch like like like like you and me. We watched lots of films and in our own Minds. We can predict what the end is going to be or have a good stab at anyway I wouldn't have thought that at so and it's it makes it even more gripping because you don't know it's coming.

11:40.42
ukfilmreview
Yeah, there's is quite a sense of that unpredictability to this and it goes into a bit what you were saying about the character. He is very compelling. You do you can't really sort of take your eyes off him. The.

11:44.70
Brian Penn
<unk> and it goes into a bit What you're saying our character is breaking how they huge. Take your eyes up there.

11:55.56
ukfilmreview
The voices and things that he seems to hear that so seems to be getting him enraged and you know, bubbling up inside of him I think one of the things that's a danger when you get a writer director directing themselves in the starring role is this sense of ego. Yeah, but in this.

11:58.19
Brian Penn
Really great. Yeah somebody size it and 1 of the things.

12:06.48
Brian Penn
To direct direct. So R A is this sense of yeah yeah, the situation it works yeah dealing with a is yeah higher opinion. So yeah, saying the the for is no yeah.

12:13.77
ukfilmreview
Situation. It works really to their favor because you you're dealing with a character is very egotistical and does have a high opinion of themselves not saying that Stephen Torentino is but just in terms of the way the character has been written that it works because there's lots of scenes where it's like ah.

12:26.38
Brian Penn
That is.

12:31.95
ukfilmreview
But he's very much in the frame and it's such intimate on his face and we're seeing his reactions to things and it's very kind of gratuitous on him. But I think that's really key to get across that This drama is all about how he views himself what he wants for himself. The fame that he searches for the.

12:33.64
Brian Penn
Season his face his reaction. Yeah, and its right really gets lost draw.

12:47.17
Brian Penn
Sell what you want yourself vain that you search is for the floor that you've got there's something really powerful about.

12:51.75
ukfilmreview
Flaws that he's got and I think there's something really powerful about that and it talks a lot about you know, modern celebrity and what's happened. Um, he carries around a boombox. Ah yeah with the Cd player. There's this sort of like nostalgic joke about that that yeah he is ah almost like an artifact from another time and yet.

12:57.34
Brian Penn
Celebrity guys around the room box. Yeah you that? yeah like I would go. Yeah, he is a yeah yeah.

13:11.53
ukfilmreview
Slips into this modern day society that we have full of social media and yeah immediate fame and things like that that it works really Well I think oh.

13:13.68
Brian Penn
Design media he said? Yeah yeah, he's desperate to be current this need to to actually be be the story Once again. I do particularly like a nice touchhi's where there is a focus on this bottle of scotch isn't there where it's kind of speaking to him periodically and which I think homes in on the idea of addiction alkas and that that must be what it films like for someone who has that dependency is still there.

13:35.56
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

13:47.77
Brian Penn
Even though he was constantly sort of screaming that I've been clean for six months or a year or whatever it was but then it cuts to this this bottle of booze that's speaking to him and that that's very clever cleverly done and it gets the point across as well about addiction in general.

13:52.13
ukfilmreview
In.

14:06.65
Brian Penn
It It must give you some insight into what it feels like for someone who who's going through it.

14:09.97
ukfilmreview
Absolutely I did think the funniest scene was there in the barn that it has that he says to the bartender about him being a box or something he takes his shirt off and every every so of the the bar owner is good but put your shirt on love that.

14:17.89
Brian Penn
And being oh yeah, yeah, put your shirt on just put your shirt on and yeah I know so that there's always sort of sort of chinks of light that you see because you know it's not I suppose in some ways. It's not the most. Positive or pleasant of stories because it's about someone's downfall isn't it and it's like yeah yeah, like yeah yeah.

14:38.59
ukfilmreview
And quite an unlikable protagonist I Think yeah if you look at him and his behavior and what he does. He's not particularly likable that it's yeah you, you're not watching the film hook because.

14:52.78
Brian Penn
See that on je yeah saying sorry.

14:52.82
ukfilmreview
At times he's very apologetic and he's like sort of you saying sorry for what he's done Obviously the film' called amends of the father but often it doesn't end up that way. He's not it doesn't come out and like he's like a he's had that development and character Arc It's almost like he's still the same way that he was and there's something quite tragic about that.

14:57.24
Brian Penn
Film school mental part of it. Yeah often it doesn't end up. No, it didn't way. But like still using a waving life. Yeah is something like I know is watching? Yeah yeah, absolutely So. Definitely a thumbs up for me on that one.

15:11.10
ukfilmreview
But he is a character that you can't stop watching because you just want to see what he's going to do next.

15:19.97
ukfilmreview
Fantastic. So that's amend of the father. Um I believe we had a password protected link for that one. So yes, but Stephen sorentino. Ah.

15:25.66
Brian Penn
Oh.

15:32.88
Brian Penn
Yeah, grab amends me. Yeah.

15:32.98
ukfilmreview
Think is on socials and things there is an Instagram page. It's called amends movie or 1 word so you can search that on on Instagram and find out I'm sure they'll have lots of information as to where you can watch the film. Um, okay so. We're going from one short to another short and another one where we've got yeah someone who wrote and directed the film. Although I'm not sure if John Clark is in this one? No, he's not so John Clarke wrote and directed a short film called a snapshot a character called ian.

16:00.12
Brian Penn
So.

16:09.90
ukfilmreview
Ah, Brian you want to give us the um synopsis on this one.

16:10.94
Brian Penn
Yes, so it's semi-autobiographical it tells the story of an autistic young man called Ian who is striving to find the job. So the premise for the film is fairly straightforward but he has a talent for for photography. And sees his life through through a lens it jumps back and forth in time as he struggles with interviews are vividly captured and it's brilliantly shot brilliantly edited I feel John Clarke is ah is a real talent in wasting it's the visuals that are are amazing. Incredible. It's just the way they capture images and he's feelings expressions and emotions that are carried more on visuals than on the scripts itself and he's searching for a degree of acceptance understanding and it shows how he gradually. Gets there but of course communication is always the issue for him but he's trying to make himself understood. He's trying to get across to people and it's so you know it's it's beautiful to watch but it's painful as well because you you want him to succeed and all that is wraps up it in a fairly short sign frame. And I think it was beautifully done beautifully put together. Yeah.

17:28.33
ukfilmreview
So yeah, really powerful film. Um, we've reviewed some of John Clark's films on the site previously. Um, he did two films kind of shorts called I have Asperger's so what and I have Asperger's so what now. So yeah, go check those out on the on the website. But.

17:33.52
Brian Penn
On the site is a future.

17:40.48
Brian Penn
Yeah.

17:45.30
ukfilmreview
Yeah, a powerful filmmaker I think you know they were saying write what you know and I think that is crucial here because to try and portray autism and things like that. It's it's going to be risky in the hands of someone that doesn't know it. Yeah, here's or inside out.

17:47.65
Brian Penn
Like you know? Yeah yeah.

17:59.38
Brian Penn
Someone doesn't know yet or inside out this.

18:04.55
ukfilmreview
And I think you know, ah there's so much more information now about it and so much more so more characters I think that have been presented but with this, you really felt not just because of the character but because there's a filmmaking style that you were being plunged into this experience of the character. You're really meant to.

18:15.57
Brian Penn
Film 1 into this experience character invent to feel what he feel and I felt the ups and downs of all that. Yeah, just.

18:22.73
ukfilmreview
Feel what Ian feels and I felt the ups and downs of all that the the struggle that when he's trying to do these interview questions and they're sort of bombarding him and he's picking up noises and scrunching his like I think he's got like a some kind of toy or a die or something in his hand that it was really.

18:34.51
Brian Penn
Like yeah for diet. Yeah, yeah, really.

18:41.51
ukfilmreview
Full of pathos and you're watching Oh my God like it just hit you and that's what I feel sometimes when you get a good short film like this. That's what it does is it gives you not because you you couldn't do justice to this story if you tried to drag it out whereas instead what this is is like a taste.

18:48.52
Brian Penn
Thought film I said that's what it does.

18:55.44
Brian Penn
Story like you drag out now. But this is like a yeah, you finally go these my yeah so here, go.

19:00.22
ukfilmreview
Of a character you kind of go This is this moment in time for this character So here it is and and you grapple with it as you as you will and I found it really powerful. Um, yeah, really good there. Also there's this like lack of empathy and understanding.

19:06.56
Brian Penn
Yeah, need child. Yeah, definitely yeah, yeah, same.

19:17.36
Brian Penn
Understanding.

19:18.97
ukfilmreview
In society you know, but a winsor ward and you hear someone sort of snly say oh it's because he's autistic and yeah, just to be up against that kind of ah prejudice already like to to yeah to have done something and then to just have someone Rob you of it immediately that.

19:24.29
Brian Penn
Say always pretty yeah, just write like you done something bit. Yeah yeah, that would really car. Yeah, that was one of the.

19:37.13
ukfilmreview
That was really powerful that yeah that was just one of the things that this character has to carry with them and yeah that for me was really impressive. Impressive.

19:41.30
Brian Penn
Are you? Yeah, it's beautifully observed because you know he's struggling to do something so fundamental and so basically should come easily to the rest of us. It's just that ability to communicate but he has you know he has a very high level of insurencet. So. He he understands deeply the condition that that he has so it it kind of is heightened because of that and it's heartbreaking your heart goes out to him to anyone who has a condition like that because ah to have that level of awareness and know how much they're they're being hindered by it. And tried to get over one hurdle after another it comes through so clearly and I think the fact that it is done in a limitedmpsa timeframe is say 16 minutes it's more effective because I think if it went on for longer this particular film. It would be probably. Repetitionious slightly. So so keeping it keeping it fairly lean and within that 16 minute line frame. It's even more effective and it explains explains the impacts of the condition even better.

20:44.51
ukfilmreview
Yeah I mean because I wouldn't say that it couldn't be a feature but I think yeah, the the story elements would have to be very different for it to kind of work that way. Um, and yeah, you'd need some kind of.

20:51.55
Brian Penn
Right? Yeah, and.

20:59.00
Brian Penn
Yeah, guys so was a journey. Yeah media. Yeah.

20:59.94
ukfilmreview
Journey I guess whereas this felt more you did there was a journey there but I think it was more immediate. Um I thought the the lead actor was fabulous. Ah Josh Ward I don't know much about Josh because so he doesn't really have much information. But yeah, really really could performance like it was just absolutely astonishing.

21:07.63
Brian Penn
Just So yeah, no yeah. Really good sort. Yeah yeah, yeah polish it? Yeah, do that kind of the trial as the say of your bedtime. It can completely completely be en Gros if your.

21:19.43
ukfilmreview
To to do that kind of Portraal and as I say a short period of time you're completely engrossed. There's not ah ah, there's not a bit of that film where you really get to feel calm like you're you're completely charged through the whole film and obviously there's the storytelling. There's the the writing which is great.

21:31.32
Brian Penn
Get Ah yeah, you're on edge on you on edge when you're watching it.

21:38.12
ukfilmreview
But that performance really does cement it I think because although it it really it makes and breaks it if if that performance isn't up to the standard then it's not going to work. But yeah, great casting. Um, really good performance. No or.

21:40.94
Brian Penn
Cement The I think yeah yeah.

21:50.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, not an easy part to play either for any answer because you have to show a level of understanding of the condition I mean for example, it going off at a bit of a tangent. But if you look at a film like Rainman with some crews and Dustin Hoffman um

22:07.20
ukfilmreview
Um.

22:08.50
Brian Penn
Those 2 roles were really challenging to play for both actors because they're they're reacting to to a ah condition that they' both not aware of so that they're trying to get some measure of how the condition it impacts on other people. And that's not easy to do so. There's a real skill there. That's.

22:25.28
ukfilmreview
But I don't know. Yeah for all I know Josha has autism. Yeah I don't actually know but what I would say is if he doesn't then what amazing performance if he does what an amazing performance. Yeah, there's no way around it. Yeah.

22:29.75
Brian Penn
I No don't yeah yeah I was gonna say Yeah yeah, it's an amazing performance either the way but it's It's very it's a difficult role play generally now.

22:43.94
ukfilmreview
I Think it's the sort of film that when you get we were talking earlier about you the caliber a film that we we're being presented with now that not only is that you know it's It's an engrossing emotional story but the filmmaking is on a really good level like you don't have to question that side of it.

22:50.55
Brian Penn
Go together about kind. Yeah.

22:59.40
Brian Penn
9 a.

23:03.26
ukfilmreview
Um, there's no part of the film that feels like it's been left in for the sake of it Sometimes we get that because I should't know if a short filmmaker has gone out and made a film. They kind of go Oh we spent all day doing this one scene but it's not right for the story they put it in any way just because they don't want to sort of cut it. But here there's no fat at all. It's like the whole thing.

23:13.39
Brian Penn
Like this story. Yeah put in any way. Yeah, yeah, no leave Yeah know yeah and you'd think though that.

23:23.20
ukfilmreview
Is so lean that you you can't escape any scene Really, it's it's amazing.

23:32.86
Brian Penn
How could you possibly have padding in a short film but we know we've seen films that have padding in that there's there's no need for it to be there even in a short film so it calls on a director's editing skills doesn't it really to decide what needs to be and what's fundamental to the story and that you can.

23:34.38
ukfilmreview
E.

23:51.22
Brian Penn
Theoretically even with a short film half padding have something in there. That's not really needed and it's another discipline that you need you need to you need to carry with you when you're making a short film.

24:00.90
ukfilmreview
Absolutely um I want to give a shout out to the supporting cast as well because I thought and Ross Marshall would plays one of the characters sort of a bit of a I don't know a bonehead kind of character I think um and then you've also got Aie Myon who plays the magazine editor who sort of offers to.

24:09.54
Brian Penn
Head cutter. Yeah, and by this.

24:17.51
Brian Penn
Yeah.

24:18.46
ukfilmreview
Give him ah a bit of a chance I think it's one of those films where you don't need a lot of people but you need good people to sort of support. What's going on I've seen that happen too where you get a short film and I know because yeah, they have a limited budget. They're often calling in favors and you know they just want to get someone to come in for a day to do a bit and they don't know this.

24:24.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and if I did they're often calling in favor. Yeah, coming for day do bit and I don't know the.

24:37.84
ukfilmreview
The material or I don't know they just don't get the tone right? but that doesn't happen here and I feel also that is indicative of John Clarke's direction to be able to direct these people so well. Um, is is really impressive. It's it's one of those films that.

24:39.69
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

24:45.69
Brian Penn
So far correct maybe threat so well a reduce one. So.

24:55.18
ukfilmreview
Stood out immediately if we were doing the festival this year it would have been a definite pick. It would have been like yes we we must show that film. But ah, we decided to ah to curb the.

24:56.25
Brian Penn
If you do Yeah yeah of course yeah I do that.

25:05.85
ukfilmreview
Festival in favor of just talking about films on this podcast instead and to be honest, It's so much more enjoyable for me. Personally, there was a lot of admin with the festival.

25:11.74
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and of course really, you're trying to cover such a wide area with the festival as well. There are so many films there but here we can we can We can look at we can look in more detail at at films and talk about them in more detail which I think is.

25:16.93
ukfilmreview
Oh.

25:28.15
Brian Penn
Ah, more useful exercise isn't it really.

25:30.29
ukfilmreview
Absolutely and it also allows us sorry that was snapshot before I move on to the next piece. Um I had an email from Mr. Clarke who said the film isn't quite currently.

25:33.20
Brian Penn
Before I.

25:38.55
Brian Penn
Ah, no, okay so.

25:44.50
ukfilmreview
Available now. Obviously this is a time of record so it may that all may change. Um, but it is sort of open to screenings and probably going to be festivals and things. But if you go to Twitter um, there is a handle at a snapshot short snapshot short. Oh my goodness that's hard to say.

25:44.54
Brian Penn
Obviously time before that will make things. Yeah.

26:00.26
Brian Penn
Yeah, anyway.

26:02.22
ukfilmreview
Um, all 1 word. All 1 word and yet you'll be able to keep up to date with what's going on there I think you obviously anyone that loves great short films. Go and follow them anyone. That's very interested in stories of autistic characters. This is a must yeah, you have to see this as incredible. Um.

26:10.29
Brian Penn
Enough racism for them very different.

26:15.78
Brian Penn
Sure is yeah.

26:20.80
ukfilmreview
So yeah, hats off to everyone on a snapshot. It was terrific and what I was going to say it was a really nice segue. But I I fumbled it um, was that the next piece we're going to review. We couldn't have done in the festival because it is rather long. It's a web series. It's 6 hours of ah um.

26:27.66
Brian Penn
By oh damn, the.

26:36.23
Brian Penn
Rather know that Oh yeah, something with.

26:40.63
ukfilmreview
Episodes 8 episodes. It's not something we would have covered in the festival but we are able to cover it in our podcast. So we've opened up a whole new door here which is terrific. Um, we're gonna review the first series of incompleteness. Um, which.

26:44.54
Brian Penn
Yeah. So.

26:57.23
ukfilmreview
Ah, Jason reviewed he originally reviewed I think an episode or 2 of it then they came back and said the whole um whole series is now available to review so we reviewed it again? Um yeah, it. So this follows several characters. Um or group's characters. They're all connected. Ah so there's a director.

27:02.47
Brian Penn
Here is yeah yeah.

27:10.60
Brian Penn
Only.

27:17.16
ukfilmreview
Um, who's filming and has his writer and his cast. So that's kind of the main setup to begin with and then he's what branches out from there. We meet the director's wife um the writer meets. Ah.

27:22.96
Brian Penn
Then me correct without that. Why.

27:29.89
ukfilmreview
A woman in the coffee shop and they strike up a relationship and the two actors start dating and they have their kind of relationship I think those are the main threads correct me if I'm three couples. Yeah 3 couples. Yeah, and so the director is so this is in the film by the way not of those the yeah, it's going to be confusing. Ah.

27:30.49
Brian Penn
Got the least price the 2 act as.

27:36.35
Brian Penn
The main 3 couples aren't they the 3 couples. Yeah.

27:44.86
Brian Penn
In the film Probably don't feel. Yeah, it's go be computer. Yeah, we.

27:49.29
ukfilmreview
So um, the director has a terminal illness. Um and decides to quit his job and go full-time so wants to make his film because his partner is pregnant with their child and he wants to kind of leave something of himself behind and it's that.

28:03.50
Brian Penn
And yeah, yeah, was like gonna say that's yeah, it's probably enough isn't it really.

28:07.26
ukfilmreview
I mean that in itself is enough for a whole Tv show right? Um, and then you have the writer of the film who is also a very talented scientist. Oh a mathematician I mean mathematician mathal genius.

28:21.62
Brian Penn
Math. Yeah, mathematical Genius I would say yeah.

28:26.83
ukfilmreview
Who has not only written this film but has ah come up with a way to change genomes in our Dna that would potentially allow people to stave off illnesses and live forever I mean again.

28:34.49
Brian Penn
You know and to be allowes and yeah, yeah, 8 doesn't in there does it and this more. Yeah.

28:42.61
ukfilmreview
Way more than enough for its own series. Um, and so he yes he meets a musician slash barista who they then start to have a raceship and then yet then the two actors that are in the film are also having a race ship who kind of struggle with intimacy and certain.

28:51.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, used any been thought how to race.

29:01.21
Brian Penn
1

29:02.34
ukfilmreview
Times. But then also one wants to go off to live in L a and and run her career whilst the other ones sort a bit more um, attached to it where they live currently and again you know that kind of have its own thread tying it all together I think is a lot of.

29:18.98
Brian Penn
Like both kind of like like yeahly. But yeah, how.

29:19.93
ukfilmreview
Questions about well kind of science fiction themes like time and relativity. And yeah, how we all are connected maybe at the same time and whether or not fate is a thing or if it's just everything was meant to be but.

29:32.55
Brian Penn
Is a thing. Yeah, everything is meant to be yeah, might library.

29:37.25
ukfilmreview
In a scientific way. The way they kind of explore it I must say I watched this film this series. Sorry and I thought I wish I was smarter I Really wish I was smart because they're going through some massive themes and I'm struggling to keep ahead. How did you feel with that.

29:44.26
Brian Penn
Yeah, ah yeah I I thought I was absolutely engrossed in it I thought it was fascinating I said to you at 1 point didn't I though I wasn't sure I could see all 8 episodes before we got.

29:56.93
ukfilmreview
E.

30:03.59
Brian Penn
Ah, made this podcast but I managed it. It drew me in because it's that good that you think right? I've got to make time to see all of these episytes. It's absolutely fascinating. But I'm altogether certain I understood all of it but sickly when they're talking about the the.

30:04.92
ukfilmreview
Um, there.

30:10.81
ukfilmreview
Now.

30:21.49
Brian Penn
Ah, theory of incompleteness. The fact that nothing can be proven that all moments are in the future. We have no control over our destiny and we are subject to forces of nature that we are not forces of nature by ourselves. But that's heavy staff that's heavy duty thinking there that. I struggle to keep up with and in some ways that's ah, a strength for the the series and it's also a weakness because you do struggle to keep up with it. The fact that all 3 couples were having the same conversations at some points I'm not sure I understood that I'm not absolutely sure why why? that was there. Why what? it was what it was telling us but you know the idea that the ah the screenwriter kind of Paul I think the screenwriter was called Paul and the director was called Alex the screenwriter paul manages to come manages to come up with an algorithm that unlocks the secret.

31:08.58
ukfilmreview
Poll. Yeah yeah.

31:21.11
Brian Penn
Or the key to immortality and that you've got this sinister organization that's chasing him that wants control of his work. So it's kind of like you know it's based on 3 key relationships. But it's also like ah it's almost like a conspiracy type thriller as well.

31:39.20
ukfilmreview
Yeah, definitely yeah, there was that sense of um, ah, mystery and tension as to like what was going to happen and also they start to reveal some of the characters backgrounds and they're really like dark and sinister the bit where he goes to visit his mom and I was like.

31:39.20
Brian Penn
So The yeah. Yeah, like what's gonna happen.

31:48.97
Brian Penn
Some of the questions. Yeah, really like yeah yeah, this where because it is not yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so much here. So great organization but like it's always exactly.

31:56.75
ukfilmreview
That was yeah it was terrifying I think there's so much here so rich and there's 8 episodes. But like you said I was exactly the same but because you know what it's like sometimes when we get asked to review something you look to see how log it is you go? How lovely is it and then when I saw it was 6 hours or okay, right I got make time for this. Um and then ah when I started watching it I was like.

32:05.56
Brian Penn
Sometimes after review. Yeah, love yeah I know yeah was yeah I'll make five days I know and I and they know what I watching? Yeah, but yeah, this is why I'll work for yeah.

32:16.58
ukfilmreview
Yeah, no, this is fine I'll watch more of this this is up to but especially Paul's scenes I must say I found him riveting because he has this kind of like nihilistic approach to what he's talking about and he he seems quite dangerous because he doesn't because of what he's been able to unlock. It's almost like he's lost his sense of value.

32:24.48
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

32:33.77
Brian Penn
Yeah, in life.

32:36.12
ukfilmreview
In life and he you can't quite see the beauty in things anymore that he's talking about things in really sort of dark severe tie that phrases. So yeah, it was really interesting.

32:39.40
Brian Penn
<unk> you think? yeah, you might be yeah dark. Yeah, so yeah, it. Yeah paul paul problem I mean they're all strong characters really in their own way. Um, because they all have their own sort of space within the series because they they do focus on certain characters at certain zones but paul it paul comes across as the ultimate scientist doesn't he that he has that degree of detachment and can so can so speak almost dispassionly about himself I mean. There were some really interesting exchanges between him and his girlfriend where he tries to explain the way he feels and his the relationship with his mother. It's almost like he's talking about somebody else. You know that is ah the true scientist who can be completely unemotional. The the idea that you can talk without emotion and not not have any kind of ah what he say it's it's difficult to put into work words of unsullable but he's very different. You know, ease in contrast to alex who's a very human characters a very. Emotional because of what he's going through. He's he's the emotional one and paul is the is the cold one slightly and but the what I think's interesting there though is that this is a film about a film being made isn't it and the the um.

34:03.78
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

34:06.74
Brian Penn
That relationship between the director and the writer between ax and Paul does give you some idea of what the friction must be between director and writer on a film where they don't always share the same vision. They don't always have the same ideas. The director is rewriting everything that the the writer does that does give you some insight. Into what what the dynamics are between the creators on the film as well. So there's that side of it. It's multilayered multilayered very Hyperin intelligent and it's only real weaknesses that it could lose a lot of people because of that. Yeah.

34:39.00
ukfilmreview
Yeah, because one of the things that I was struggling with certainly by the sort of latter episodes was when you've got the dialogue overlapping is in so there's scenes and the Dialogue's happening and it's happened maybe in the film or it's happened in another scene.

34:52.96
Brian Penn
Into the bottle. Maybe the billboard. Yeah yeah I was then and I and I yeah yeah sent.

34:58.40
ukfilmreview
I was then having to current aware where where were they talking about that before but I and then you kind of want to be able to go back and and check that. But I think that is also really part of it. It's like this sense of in the universe is it that all we are are just these sort of playthings for.

35:14.33
Brian Penn
These little ba things. Whatever ask going on. Yeah and.

35:16.83
ukfilmreview
Whatever is actually going on and um, it's it like going to suddenly reveal itself or not and yeah, there's ah, there's a lot of scientific depth here to an already kind of ah thick storyline. There's always there's already plenty here to play with.

35:27.54
Brian Penn
And. Story like ready. Yeah.

35:36.28
ukfilmreview
You because you remind me of watching like a christopher Noblelin Film I was like there's I I need to get a yeah Ph D to to understand some of this but not in a way that was offpuing. It was more that I kind of wished I knew a bit more that was all you know.

35:38.72
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and I and I no I yeah it it makes you curious. It does what any good film.

35:53.23
ukfilmreview
M.

35:56.25
Brian Penn
Tv series should do is make you curious and draw you in and want to see more and the fact that all 8 episodes were there were available. You could you could binge watch it. You could watch it like a box set and that makes you even more determined to get into it and not be beaten by. It is challenging. Is challenging. But as I say some people might find that off pussy. You need to have an open mind and it might it might be worth doing some research into Godel who who pioneer the theory of incompleteness. Um, but. You've really got to you've really got to be ready for that I started to read up on it a bit. oh oh god no but you know, but it's there and it as the same I think we that films and Tv dramas are there to challenge us, you know and and incompleteness stuns that. And does it very well.

36:51.19
ukfilmreview
Yeah, so the series itself was written and directed by David Ash um so if you're looking up, you'll see I want to put his name in but it is absolutely ripping. It's a sort of thing that you you'd watch on say like Amazon prime or something and just.

36:54.19
Brian Penn
Data.

37:00.72
Brian Penn
You.

37:06.50
Brian Penn
Yeah.

37:06.80
ukfilmreview
You would watch the whole thing. Yeah, if you if you got time. Um I I found it to be also one of those things I don't have because we were watching it I I watched it probably over ah 2 or 3 nights I think that I was I was thinking about it a lot I was thinking I was out because 1 bit I so I I dropped my.

37:19.84
Brian Penn
Thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I.

37:26.24
ukfilmreview
Phone on the bedroom floor and I couldn't pick it up. Okay, you know and you go pick something and then it kind of slips out of your hand again. It happened 2 or 3 times and I was questioning I was great is this fate is this his fate am I not meant to pick my phone up right now because I had really done a number on me I thought is I don't know what's real anymore is this is this real like yeah or you just.

37:37.57
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, it Yeah, it's thought provoking isn't it and who's to say that it that it's wrong. You know we we we we try to make sense of life. Don't we and why things happen in the way they do.

37:44.66
ukfilmreview
Pawns.

37:56.67
Brian Penn
And who's to say the theory that's being set out. There is wrong could be right? It could be wrong. It could be in the middle. It could be half right and half wrong who knows but that's the beauty of it isn't it. That's the beauty of life that life is a mystery and this is just one way of making sense of it of everything.

38:05.92
ukfilmreview
Ccc. Absolutely. So yeah, that's incompleteness again. We watch that with a password protected link. So it's not as far as I aware available I'm just going to see if my little chat with. Even it's saying anything. Um, no let me just double check that. But I do recommend the obviously's seeking them out and see if you can get hold of anything because yeah, really really powerful. Um, let's just check.

38:32.98
Brian Penn
Do some videos? yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

38:44.50
ukfilmreview
So yeah, this one Vimeo there's a trailer if you go read the review on our website. There's a trailer. Ah, there's a website incompleteness. The series dot com and there is also a Facebook page incompleteness. The series is the all 1 word. Um, so yeah, you can certainly find out more.

38:49.74
Brian Penn
Oh.

38:57.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.

39:01.39
ukfilmreview
About it. I recommend trying the website first because that's normally the best place to start? Um, so that was incompleteness and we're going to move on now to a feature length film. Um comedy horrorra thriller drama bits potential I thought sci-fi I think I was wrong. Um. Feature film called lady governess directed by Tito Wiley and starring Lucia Goya bets ah you want to take the synopsis on this one right.

39:22.18
Brian Penn
Jumping it. Oh right? yeah.

39:33.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, okay, then so yeah, so it stars lucia gorebets who's the sister of the director Tito Wiley plays says it's a two character film. She plays both characters. Um.

39:47.33
Brian Penn
1 is the lady of the house. She's not identified any further and her newly appointed housekeeper Karen who who wears a a ginger wick throughout the throughout the film just a distinguisher from from the lady of the house. Obviously um, both it. It's. So. It's it's multilaided in in many ways because you can read a lot a lot in into it. They both appear to be hiding secrets of some description but they become strangely dependent on each other and it follows their relationship developing where she where Karen becomes not only a housekeeper. But her guiding light her lady governess which is where the title of the film comes from and it gets to a point where they become so dependent on each other that the the lady of the house feels that she has to break free. But of course the Karen follows her to another another home that she has. And the plot gradually. Ah unravels and we learn more about both characters. But it's to me what I got from it. It's it's very suggestive of um also egos being at play in some ways. That's the way you could read it.

41:01.84
ukfilmreview
Um.

41:02.91
Brian Penn
But then it could be that someone has got themselves into a relationship that's abusive, but there are things about the lady of the house that are revealed that affect their relationship and affects Karen and the way way she behaves with her so there's all kinds of strands going on there. Potentially. If you read it in a certain way. But really what I found most impressive about this is that the director Tito Wiley is only sixteen years old um what an outstanding achievement for a sixteen year old with no budget. He directed edited and co-write the scripts. Is pretty down good going really when you look at what's there you could pick it apart and say there are things wrong with it. But of course there would be It's not going to be perfect. But I really enjoy it again. Very challenging, very challenging piece just like incompleteness because it is suggesting a lot of things going on there. But you could in your own mind. You could argue against it and find something else going on. But.

42:01.99
ukfilmreview
Yeah, because when I read I think Joe Beck reviewed it on the website. Um I read Joe's room he said about being a young director and then when I we watched the film. There's a little note from the director about his age and the fact there was his sister they filmed it kind of like.

42:12.10
Brian Penn
Then where we watch from is a little note. Yeah of yeah one why you can of.

42:22.20
ukfilmreview
Um, at the home and then on holiday. So right away you're kind of going okay like this is going to be. It's not going to be a fully polished piece. Yeah, the the the 3 we've already reviewed actually a very high that production values. This didn't have.

42:29.58
Brian Penn
The other body 9

42:34.90
Brian Penn
Very yeah, but yeah, not like but we go.

42:39.51
ukfilmreview
High production value so you can immediately sort of dis disregard that but in terms of what you get, there's a lot of story here. There's a lot of fascinating character work between the 2 very well drawn characters. It's also a film. Yeah, we talk a lot about um the limitations.

42:45.49
Brian Penn
Yeah, there's a lot of story there. There's a lot of fascinating.

42:52.60
Brian Penn
Right is always Character. So. Yeah, yeah, really? yeah I think.

42:58.92
ukfilmreview
Ah, filmmakers. Yeah, it's it's been very ambitious with what it's got and not getting too far off the Mark. There's some scenes here that are genuinely disturbing genuinely sort of you. You watch me. Wow. And then there's other bits which are genuinely funny the bit where she hands her the drawing I I was killing myself laughing that was so funny. Um you at first I'll hold my hands up I didn't realize that it was the same actress paying both characters that i.

43:16.49
Brian Penn
The the I'm.

43:26.50
Brian Penn
Oh really? yeah.

43:30.71
ukfilmreview
Ah, for a few minutes for a few minutes I was sorry. Okay so got too cut then I realize but I don't think I was quite sort of switched on enough but what but her performance or or performance is are very good I think the the the wig and the costume I guess could could have been a bit better. Um, but.

43:39.70
Brian Penn
What we did Oh very good I think.

43:45.90
Brian Penn
Well yeah I wanted to.

43:48.67
ukfilmreview
I think they obviously wanted to do that kind of drastically different appearance and obviously didn't have a massive budget for it. Um, but I think Joe talks to us in the review about the way that they filmed it was very cleverly done that you you know lots of these angles where your ones on one side once or the other but they're talking as if they're talking in real time and it was brilliant. It was.

43:52.16
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. But they still very yeah yeah yeah.

44:08.57
ukfilmreview
It was really engaging I did I think of all the films there that we're talking about it probably did have the most pacing issues. There's some pacing issues in it I don't know if that's because of the limitations of the filmmaking or if it is but maybe the story is not quite as.

44:17.28
Brian Penn
Most Pasty is yeah known if.

44:26.17
Brian Penn
Story Yeah I'm wondering.

44:28.20
ukfilmreview
Long enough I'm wondering if this was more of a 40 minute or 30 minute short what did you think about the the length.

44:31.36
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and I I mean I think you you could see what they were trying to do and you can see obviously what the limitations are but the um lengthwise it probably would have been best if it was a little bit shorter but the editing generally I thought was excellent. Particularly where you got 1 a playing both roles and as you just touched on where they had to spend ah they would have to spend a lot of time working out the angles because the shots of Karen from behind you could tell it was somebody ah a lot taller than than a.

44:51.63
ukfilmreview
E are.

45:05.34
ukfilmreview
50

45:09.32
Brian Penn
The lady of the house and you thought well that's probably him isn't it playing the um playing the the but the back of Karen but that's what you need to do that's what you have to do.

45:15.89
ukfilmreview
Yeah, yeah, and that if anything as well that obviously there's the creative elements That's like fair play you get the shot. However, you go get a shot but there's also the sense with this film because it is a little bit weird. It is a little bit odd that those things almost kind of.

45:23.20
Brian Penn
But like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah, it does.

45:34.10
ukfilmreview
Enhance it. It makes it a little bit more unhinged. Um, and there is a sense of mystery going on and like you say I think there is a lot of layers to this about what we're being presented with what are these 2 characters or are there even 2 characters there. Yeah I think there is a lot of questions. Um I thought yeah there was a chance.

45:45.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:53.63
ukfilmreview
Could this person be from another world because of the way that she acts the way that she kind of presents herself or even yeah, the voice now she turns up and all that stuff that it was giving you a lot of mystery around what was actually being shown. Um I think there's also.

45:54.32
Brian Penn
The yeah the the voice. Yeah yeah, the voice. Yeah yeah.

46:06.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

46:12.38
ukfilmreview
I Found the to the lady of the house I'm guessing the title character lady Lady Governess I'm not sure but her ah kind of sorrow because she's a widow and that she kind of had lost her place in the world and needed. She was kind of betting on this person to sort of.

46:16.29
Brian Penn
Yeah.

46:25.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, kind of second.

46:31.18
ukfilmreview
Bring her back. You know whether or not she could sort of trust people again that I thought that was actually quite powerful is that this is really like emotional they've they've done well to create something here that is charged that is engaging. Yeah I thought I you explore these ideas of like suicide because she's got a gun and stuff. So yeah, that.

46:31.46
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, create some. Engaging. Yeah yeah, Yeahp Yeah,, there's so there's a hell of a lot of depth there and like like most independent films that we look at you have to appreciate the context as well because you.

46:51.26
ukfilmreview
There's a lot there.

47:00.14
Brian Penn
When you when we Chris seek an independent film. We don't do it in the same way as we would with a hollywood block buttbuster because of the economies. The scale that they have the money they have to spend. They don't have that anything comparable in independent filmmaking. That's part of its appeal the edginess the rawness that you get. That comes across in this film particularly gives it that kind of add equality as well. But no, you've got to be impressed by that you know taking everything into account that it was just this sixteen year old kid and his older sister away in a holiday thinking. How much. We don't know how much preparation went into the film. How long you've been working on the scripts or they co-write the scripts I think together didn't they but you know that is good going and you you look back to the the best directors Scorsese Spielberg they all started out making a film something like this didn't they you know in their in ah in the garage or in the study or the basment or somewhere they make a film that was the the very beginning of what they were doing and teta wiley you know that is a pretty good start.

47:56.31
ukfilmreview
In.

48:12.89
Brian Penn
It's not a bad first entry you cv is it really? but.

48:13.77
ukfilmreview
No at all I mean if you were to take out the the scenes that were really terrified. That's a great show real already. You've already got a fantastic sort of examples of your work. Um, as I say as it is as a feature I did feel it was. It is a little bit stretched and I think also the.

48:19.48
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

48:29.54
Brian Penn
There? yeah.

48:33.66
ukfilmreview
When you're watching something that isn't high value production values that there is always that sense of view. The enjoyment starts to sort of waver um a bit but that being said it was still gripping. Got very creepy, especially when she sort of catches up to her her like she they they.

48:40.11
Brian Penn
Stuff. Yeah, we said it was the very right? yeah.

48:50.89
Brian Penn
Stay That's right? Yeah yeah, and she ran all the way run all the waycycl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's an audience.

48:51.16
ukfilmreview
The the lady goes to stay somewhere else and then she catches up with it was really really creepy. Yeah, how did you get a I ran ah that that was it was starting to get really creepy and and there's often a an audience for this sort of film low budget Horror. There's an audience for that. And I think this would you I can imagine it Um, having a home on something like shudder the the horror platform you know because also people there are quite forgiving of production values and they are also more interested in unique voices. That's what you get a lot with this this part of our show that we get a lot of unique voices that haven't been.

49:10.37
Brian Penn
You could. Yeah, yeah, Absolutely yeah.

49:21.46
Brian Penn
<unk> unique voices. Yeah, get a lot. Yeah, ah yeah lot.

49:30.24
ukfilmreview
Diluted or corrupted by any other voice. It's just the people that come to make the film. It's not like exacts going. Oh yeah, but the audience are going to want a bit of flesh. Let's do this. It's like no they they just want to tell their story and I think they're often as well picking out themes that are really.

49:30.60
Brian Penn
It over if I up. Yeah, yeah, bit of yeah,, let's do this.. It's like.

49:48.10
ukfilmreview
Heavy hitting and exploring them really really well and I think lady the lady governess does that expertly really good.

49:48.70
Brian Penn
Heavy. Yeah yeah, no does Yeah I enjoyed it. I was quietly impressed with it. You know I think you make it make a good point because you know with a bigger budget when more money's thrown it whoever is financing ah any film will. Rub the edges off of a story won't they they'll polish it more and that's what you get here. You get that kind of degree of rawness which is what will put it into cult slices for horror fans because it is it leans more source horror than thriller or anything else. Really, you know.

50:17.79
ukfilmreview
E.

50:25.65
Brian Penn
So that's probably where where it lies but I mean it's It's a good start for info.

50:30.97
ukfilmreview
If they do raise any money for for ah another version I would say at least buy maybe a different week I'm not sure it is so it was pinky ready kind of color wasn't it here.

50:35.62
Brian Penn
I know it was that ginger or pink or I couldn't quite work it out really yeah, know? Yeah but but that look there you go you know it's kind of like it's make do am men doesn't it I it's what it seems to me. They grab the very first thing that resembles a wig and like. Like put that on kind of thing you know, go with it and go with it. Yeah, no good for them.

50:57.12
ukfilmreview
And go with it. You know, get it done. That's what I so and if you are gonna get it done. Um, you can see more about Tito Wiley and his films on Instagram he's tito underscore Wiley and also a Youtube channel at Tito Wiley movies

51:09.42
Brian Penn
A.

51:13.27
ukfilmreview
6 1 3 6 I don't know who all the other six odd Thousand Tito Wilis are but please move over here come on. We've got an aspiring filmmaker coming on through here. Um, so that was lady governess and a feature we're going to go to another short now.

51:17.32
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, and I Yeah yeah.

51:31.28
ukfilmreview
Um, and this one is directed by Jeremy Stewart it's called dipsomaniac and written by Danny Zlk I think I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that right who also plays one of the central characters called how who is having a birthday event on a.

51:35.46
Brian Penn
And.

51:44.24
Brian Penn
Is having a yeah yeah.

51:50.71
ukfilmreview
I'm guessing. It's called a party bus ah party bus in the day with his friend played by Ben Rosenthal who is called Tim and it becomes evident that there's a lot of issues going on in Howe's life right now. Um, and yes this this.

52:06.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, you by traffic? Yeah yeah, and the female.

52:08.89
ukfilmreview
Day event with 2 people on a party bus might be a little bit more tragic than we thought and at one point some strippers turn up and there's a male and a female one which I found was quite funny and it gets a bit bit strange then a whole load of um.

52:24.50
Brian Penn
Audio.

52:25.35
ukfilmreview
Random as come onto the bus and kind of have a bit a party with them but throughout this we start to realize that Howe was a bit more of a damaged character and um, there could be more to it than meets the eye. We see a bit of substance abuse and.

52:34.14
Brian Penn
A damage. Yeah, the I see yeah, dont want say anymore. No no got I guys.

52:44.86
ukfilmreview
Yeah, clearly some mental health issues as well. Don't want to say anymore and with the request to the plot is better kind by the way guys apologies if there's been any spoilers tonight. It's It's very difficult with shorts in particular to not say something that's in the film. Um, but yeah, what did you think of dipsomaniac.

52:54.65
Brian Penn
Take? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it worked for me, you know I think once you get past the yeah I mean the 2 kept main characters how and ah light chalk and cheese aren't they they're supposed to be best friends, but.

53:03.48
ukfilmreview
And.

53:12.43
ukfilmreview
Um.

53:13.63
Brian Penn
How is this loud heonistic guy who wants to live life sort of full but Sim is this terribly sensible doll. Earnest man who's just turned up for his his mate's birthday past here and it's just the turbines to begin with. But I think underneath that kind of initial sort of froth and contrasting Cures. There's a lot going on there I mean it's dealing with a lot of a lot of major themes. It's dealing with with addiction and mental health and also I think the um.

53:48.53
Brian Penn
The the goal that was driving the bus I think she's an interesting character that rain that's it. Yeah, she's an interesting character that you you get to know better as sign words and I would like to have heard more from her because there was you get the feeling. There was more lurking underneath. Um, obviously it's so.

53:50.24
ukfilmreview
There are rain. Is it rain? Yeah yeah.

54:07.60
Brian Penn
It does turn slightly sinister towards the end but you know that's the edge it has but I think it's an interesting piece and does the job. It does the job. Well it it does what it? What it it it achieves what it sets out to do and that's the. Tell the story of 2 contrasting characters. 1 is very dysfunctional and the other one is try is trying to be normal but living this very boost fueled evening together.

54:40.90
ukfilmreview
And I think the the way that the characters are presented is quite sort of visceral. You've got this glitching that keeps happening and it's slightly sort of shakiness to to them the way they're being presented and it it kind of a nerves you as a view you're watching it thinking.

54:45.55
Brian Penn
Just happening like think you? yeah.

54:59.61
ukfilmreview
Because if you were to the surface level of this. It could feel like a kind of um, simple comedy sketch. You know it's all oh it's just like 2 blokes on a party bus and all havocreaks but you get this sense that there's more going on here that it makes you kind of question what you're being presented with and it makes you question what's going on.

55:00.62
Brian Penn
What success that been like hundred again. Yeah people let.

55:11.72
Brian Penn
Since it is more going on here. They yeah presenting to questions going on.

55:17.88
ukfilmreview
And I think you really get ah hooked into in particular how this character the carring of what is what is what his yeah was his problem I guess and but in a way that was not too heavy. It wasn't like a sense of eyes really going to throw into that.

55:22.67
Brian Penn
Character What was croright I guess.

55:36.80
ukfilmreview
There were bits that were funny and there were bits I mean this is a few of the films we reviewed Actually that's kind of separated into chapters I think the previous one was as well. Um, that that also gave you a sense of something is unraveling here because why would you? yeah do that? Why would you segment it and I think that was kind of important. Obviously we don't want to give anything away but it was important.

55:36.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:49.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, like not should be for that Probably state award.

55:55.97
ukfilmreview
That that was there and I'm always in all filmmakers that are just so intelligent. They've kind of made something that there's so many levels to this I couldn't I couldn't write anything like that I couldn't certainly see it through to a piece that's been made. Um that with dipsomaniac I felt that.

56:03.47
Brian Penn
There's so many levels to it right? end of that reality. See it through no.

56:13.87
ukfilmreview
You're in very good hands. The filmmakers know what they're doing they they keep you on this ride and as you said even a character like rain. Um, that's on a ah side character you do feel Oh I'm want to know more about you. This was one of those films where actually ah.

56:14.49
Brian Penn
Because they want to do? Yeah why and I think that.

56:23.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

56:28.79
ukfilmreview
I Felt maybe you could have done with it slightly longer almost to give you a bit more of of what's happened and how did they get here and what's going on. But even as it is. It's very potent, very powerful. You come away definitely affected by it. Um, we have without you can't go into why but there there's this.

56:30.36
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, light. Yeah yeah look I on.

56:47.00
ukfilmreview
There's a lot there for viewers in ah in a short space of time I don't think it was that long. Um, so yeah, dipsomaniac um, very very good effective film. Let's just check see if you can't see it ah Donny Z so

56:50.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, no, so yeah, yeah, very very effective.

57:06.25
ukfilmreview
Yeah, there's 9 db page is an Instagram page a dipso maniac underscore film. Um, yeah I I check that if you can and hello to Jeremy Stewart who recommended us. Um, he's a fan which is always nice, always nice to be yeah.

57:14.32
Brian Penn
That good journey do report. Good stuff and.

57:25.14
ukfilmreview
Um, obviously that's the director. So ah, Danny was the one who submitted who wrote it and stars in it. So yeah, it's just nice to have you guys part of the Uk film review experience and um, yeah, thank you here. Thank you for sharing your your terrific film with us. Um, also with this sort of film with dipsmania I feel that.

57:27.38
Brian Penn
Method Smith I yeah like to yeah, nice experience. Paul the family. Yeah.

57:44.60
ukfilmreview
It would not surprise me if next year we get an email say hey guys we're we're crowdfunding for a feature for that film. Yeah, we're going to make it into a feature like and I will be all totally on board. But yeah, that sounds great.

57:51.22
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, well the potentials there I mean with some some shorts that we look at you know that that's it. It's self-contained. It's finished. It's done but we know we've seen some short features that you know have got potential that this almost feels like an ahe of cf like it kind of a starter. For the main course it does it does sets up a feature length movie quite well it does it really? Well so I wouldn't be surprised either. Yeah.

58:21.80
ukfilmreview
They go ah dipsomaniac. Ah, they also go read Jason's review on the website and on there you'll be able to see the trailer. It's only a thirty second trailer so it's worth having a look at that and see if it's your cup of tea. Um.

58:25.78
Brian Penn
Strength interview on the on there. You're gonna see right? yeah.

58:36.52
ukfilmreview
Moving on to our last film of the episode potentially the last film review of the year last film review of turning on when you're listening to this. Um we are going to review short film flight into darkness.

58:39.73
Brian Penn
Lost you? Yeah um, yeah.

58:50.21
ukfilmreview
Ah, directed by Alexander Ratta who I interviewed very recently actually on the website. Yeah I did a very interesting conversation. Um, so yeah, go check that out on the website. Um, but yeah flight into darkness you review distant you on the site.

58:53.42
Brian Penn
Oh ditching. Um good one good stuff? Yeah yeah.

59:02.97
Brian Penn
I did review this? Yeah okie do then? So it's starring martinina g griiner and Vojo Van bruva I hope I pronounced his name correctly I do apologize if I haven't but yes, so okay, what we got here.

59:05.82
ukfilmreview
Bryants. Well I think you must go over to you for the synopsis.

59:22.22
Brian Penn
Ah, Maria is a troubled soul who contemplates a new life in buenos airre far away from our old existence in Vienna however, her controlling older brother Daniel has something of a hold over her as a doctor he would have some insight into Maria's physical and mental health but how well does Daniel Noah and how much emotional baggage is buried below the surface. The past is never far behind as Maria recalls a highly charged encounter an evening of heavy drinking with an old friend gives her food for th thought now Maria and Daniel are complex characters with many moving parts. We can draw inferences from the dialogue that occasionally feels fragmented. There is a sense that Maria only has an illusion of choice and her path in life seems predetermined and cannot be altered and this is a bit like ah incompleteness actually now I'll think of it. Um.

01:00:12.39
ukfilmreview
Sit it.

01:00:15.31
Brian Penn
Her relationship with Daniel is pivotal to the overall narrative and can also beured in a number of ways although ridddled with ambiguousity. There is no denying the visual power of the piece. It's underpinned by occasional voiceovers that give the film an episodic film. There is a heavily stylized intro where Maria sits on a pier as the voiceover waxes lyrical. It can almost be a 1960 s tv advert for Christian Deorr there is an overriding thing. The story is too big for a short film format which is probably the only drawback but. Fair play to all concerned. This is a solid piece of filmmaking that deserves due credit.

01:00:54.78
ukfilmreview
So yeah, obviouslyryan, that's ah part for the review I think and also you do go read the interview where I talk to Alex he goes into sort of the background of the film. It was originally planned as a stage piece. Um, yeah, and it I think it would work. But.

01:01:06.17
Brian Penn
I Could see that yeah I think.

01:01:11.83
ukfilmreview
As it is I think it is a very potent powerful short film. Um I really felt immersed in the yeah Maria's plight and was absolutely kind of captivated by Daniel's like presence and the way he was controlling her that.

01:01:18.21
Brian Penn
Like yeah city.

01:01:26.32
Brian Penn
Presence And yeah, yeah, yeah I think so yeah, definitely yeah yeah.

01:01:30.10
ukfilmreview
Gaslighting going on there I think and you know questioning her mental health and there's a little bit where yeah she talks about the letter ahpologies If then this is sort of breing the sport spoil the territory but there's a letter that she's given him that basically kind of hands over her control of her.

01:01:48.14
Brian Penn
You was a ba band. Yeah Yeahs you.

01:01:48.65
ukfilmreview
So for future but she wants it back and he kind of says oh I got rid of it and he sort of looks a bit shifty at that time and I think there's a lot there that you sort of feel. There's so much mystery between these 2 characters and what's happened. There's a bit of as you say ah in your review that they're playing I think with the sort.

01:01:58.48
Brian Penn
Yeah, what happened.

01:02:06.38
ukfilmreview
Timelines of when things have happened and what came before when and what's going to happen afterwards that you feel almost as lost as Maria like you feel that you're in her struggle because you're trying to sort of get to grips of exactly what's going on. It's only those bits like you say when she's on the rooftop that you feel almost sort of tranquil and.

01:02:07.22
Brian Penn
Wendynding. Yeah, what Land yeah is not yeah, you'll be doing. Yeah yeah, what's going on. It's only.

01:02:23.00
Brian Penn
Still with yeah if you came into.

01:02:25.57
ukfilmreview
Ah, bit of yeah, she's able to Rise above all of the noise and cacophony of goings on that you get a bit clarity. But yeah, it's It's a really intense watch.

01:02:29.40
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. It's a good way of describing it. It's the word. It's intense. You know the I've not read them I've not read the novella by our Arthur schnitzler. But I think it is it. The fact that you said it was contemplated as stage playing that really makes sense to me because it could really unfold on stage really well and be ah, an excellent play potentially but you just feel that it's too big for a short film format. That's what what comes through all the time you think there's so much more here.

01:02:56.57
ukfilmreview
Me.

01:03:07.54
Brian Penn
It's just bubbling below the surface but there isn't the science to expand on it so you have ah the character is basically being fleshed out and it it's very effective and in the way it's done. You know it's very good a lot The Visuals a love the way it looks I Love the look at the film. It's very you know it's very constantal isn't it.

01:03:25.17
ukfilmreview
E.

01:03:27.40
Brian Penn
You know it's got that kind of European edge that I Love you know it's very styish and I do like that a lot. But again, there's so much more there that they just couldn't They couldn't tell you but it's kind of it's Inferring. It's hintting at what could light lie beneath the surface. What's behind these characters. What's their motivation. That's what we always say isn't it for all currents portrayed on Screen. What's their motivation. Why are they doing it. Why are they behaving in the way as they are you know and that's what you got here is that it kind ofnacks at you You think God There's so much more here but needs to come out but you don't necessarily see it.

01:04:03.67
ukfilmreview
And and that's always interesting isn't it. You know if you talked to about a few films in this episode where we sort of said whether or not we wanted more or perhaps less that definitely with flight into darkness wanted more I think I agree wholeheartedly that it's a much bigger piece if it was wanted to be. However.

01:04:05.63
Brian Penn
For obvious reasons. Clever, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more or it's a much bigger. Yeah.

01:04:23.60
ukfilmreview
It still works in its current format because of the sense of Maria's struggle her plight. Yeah, it almost feeling like you can't get to grips with it. It feeling like you are struggling to keep up with the narrative is a real reminiscent of what she's going through and um, what.

01:04:28.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeahly, yeah, we 7 Yeah, definitely I think.

01:04:42.15
ukfilmreview
What's happening to her. There's that sense and I think you know that's always interesting to consider like like with um, the short we did earlier John Clark's snapshot. It's that sense of giving you a taste of what the character is experiencing is almost almost more important than delivering like a.

01:04:48.79
Brian Penn
Yeah experience. Yeah yeah, so all of more.

01:04:59.75
ukfilmreview
Ah, normal narrative. Yeah traditional narrative for for the viewer and I'm always yeah recently I've seen a lot of things about um creativity in the modern age and they're talking about what what artistic people are doing with the rise of Ai and things like that that often.

01:05:01.77
Brian Penn
You yeah.

01:05:07.25
Brian Penn
Made it was to keep doing I bit often.

01:05:17.14
ukfilmreview
They're not able to deliver the stories that they want or or in this case, they are. They're able to sort. Actually you know this is how I wanted to present it. This is how I want to do it and it's not for the audience. It's for me like maybe I want to explore something that's important to me and yeah, whether or not viewers engage with it is kind of by the by. So.

01:05:18.63
Brian Penn
Deliveratory one or for in this case, they are.

01:05:23.66
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's not. Maybe I go school. Yeah yeah, course looks like more of viewers engage base on by by yeah there doesn.

01:05:36.19
ukfilmreview
There is that sense of that. But I think within with flights into darkness. Yeah definitely I felt that it could have benefited from being longer and expanding more on what was going on and giving you all that it didn't necessarily have to tie everything together. But I just think that you do come away a little bit frustrated from the sense of okay oh.

01:05:42.73
Brian Penn
I Mean yeah, didn't necessarily I no I straight? yeah.

01:05:54.69
ukfilmreview
Right? Well I don't feel satisfied with that I don't feel that I got everything I wanted from it.

01:05:55.72
Brian Penn
Right? Yeah, you know, but yeah, but you see the thing is the fact that I mean I gave it 3 stars which it's good. You know, no doubt it's good. It's very well done. But the fact that I felt a degree of frustration shows. How much I rated it as a story.

01:06:10.81
ukfilmreview
In.

01:06:13.40
Brian Penn
Because it's not given me enough. It's not satisfying from ah from a view as my from my point of view. Yeah, yeah, oh.

01:06:18.96
ukfilmreview
But you want more I think that's what's key. It's not like oh I like ah yeah I wasn't satisfied. It's more I wanted more of that. It'd be like yeah I have a great meal when someone goes. Oh yeah, but I'm going to give you half plate you but no I want more of that and so like it is a compliment and obviously yeah, like we said with them.

01:06:26.20
Brian Penn
I wanted more if yeah, yeah, great meal is I gonna give you off. Yeah, exactly like physically is it title. Yeah see like you said to that.

01:06:37.93
ukfilmreview
Some manly I wouldn't be surprised if yeah, we get ah an email saying. Oh yeah, you're know we're doing a feature length. And yeah, we'd we'd love to show it to you and I think this film is is a few years old now and so but I think when I interviewed Alexander he was saying that they've got a.

01:06:38.37
Brian Penn
Be yeah things. Oh yeah, you know we're doing the beach like yeah yeah, we up go yeah, definite's what years old? Yeah yeah I.

01:06:53.56
ukfilmreview
Ah, studio a different um studio that they're kind of working with creating lots of films and they're like raising money for different films and so I don't think necessarily that's on the cards. Why I might be wrong. Um, pickco studio I think it's called piicosudio.com you can check out more about the different projects and things and if you go to my interview.

01:06:58.83
Brian Penn
So and they the value got so qualifie I love your own 5 Yeah and you here um, probably yeah, might be.

01:07:12.32
ukfilmreview
Which is on the website's quite easy to find if you go to interviews on the main menu. You'll see the one with Alexander is the first one depending on when you're listening to this but there's lots of links in that to like I think you can even watch the film. There's a link to watching the film online some of their other films. Um.

01:07:13.81
Brian Penn
That one.

01:07:25.20
Brian Penn
On excellent.

01:07:29.28
ukfilmreview
Interesting to see what other people thought of this yeah because like say I did feel similar to you I did feel that I wanted its belong but I did also enjoy it in the the length that it was because of the what it was reflecting.

01:07:31.95
Brian Penn
I did film 7 I wanted it to go so enjoy it. Yeah, the Linkedin it was yeah it definitely works in. It's in its current format. Absolutely no question it does. But yeah, yeah, very impressed again. Very impressed. Yeah.

01:07:47.79
ukfilmreview
Ah, so yeah, that's flight into darkness and say if you want to find out more and indeed even watch it just head to our website and click interviews or search Alexandra Ratta and you'll see the interview that I did. Worth a read as well. I just you find out more about his filmmaking and the studio that they've got set up and what they're doing sounds very exciting I think they're also looking for investors and things. So if that's sounds like your cup of tea. Ah, do go for it and yeah.

01:08:09.48
Brian Penn
Doing something very exciting sort of investors things. Like you? yeah.

01:08:19.31
ukfilmreview
That is the end of our in the only episode. Thank you if you've stayed with us and and listened to our reviews of all these films and hopefully some of them take your fancy and you might want to check them out online do get in touch with us all with the filmmakers. You know if you heard it here and and decided to watch it because.

01:08:23.51
Brian Penn
So.

01:08:39.35
ukfilmreview
It's great if we're able to shine a light on some of these films and get people to watch them and at least talk about what the different storylines are doing and what these themes are being explored are because as I say the caab of filmmaking out is incredible and it seems.

01:08:40.29
Brian Penn
Design a light that somebody builds Scan what.

01:08:53.73
Brian Penn
Something not. But I mean see now.

01:08:57.46
ukfilmreview
Now more than ever is harder to find these yeah great stories and these great filmmakers and we're very very lucky where we are because they get in touch with us. They come to us and say look you know we've we've got these films and we we go through them. But yeah, hopefully um, you found.

01:09:02.35
Brian Penn
Great stories. These grace films are very lucky again, but not as they look. So.

01:09:15.21
ukfilmreview
But we said interesting and you want to check them out more? Um, so yeah, that's the end of the year's episodes what a year ah I want to say a big thank you to Brian because you have been an absolute stalwart. You've been incredible reviewing all this yeah.

01:09:21.84
Brian Penn
Yeah, Wow Yeah I'm afraid I.

01:09:31.35
Brian Penn
Uminema name Also up building Indian short. Yeah, whatever. But.

01:09:32.81
ukfilmreview
Cinema films going to screenings and also catching up on all these indian short films and whatever ludicrous streaming pick I choose for us. Um, you know more of that. Yeah, more of that in the new year um

01:09:40.84
Brian Penn
Ah I'm ready for it. You know that you know yeah, it's been a pleasure Chris I've really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward till the next year it it just shows that this there's so much out there that we can watch and review and enjoy and we we go right across the board. Don't we. We look at general releases independent films nostalgia picks. What's streaming. We're across everything and.

01:10:08.54
ukfilmreview
Indeed and I've also you know, learned to play the drums. Yeah, no, not not really, but I thought it general I completely forgot to put it in the episode. So I just ah chuck one in now. Um, not bad Third yeah not bad. though not bad

01:10:13.83
Brian Penn
Where hey.

01:10:21.27
Brian Penn
Ah, well, why not you got? It's only the second time you used on this episode of thing always at the third third yeah you you you controlled yourself? Well really I would have used it a dozen times you sell so like.

01:10:28.17
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah, yeah, once once I click off I'll just be off doing that. Yeah, that's all I do sitling drum sounds? Um, but yeah, thank you all for listening. Do come back and listen more in the new year we're Goingnna have lots and lots in store for you out.

01:10:37.69
Brian Penn
Yeah, I'm hoping that. Thank you.

01:10:44.21
Brian Penn
Yeah, we gonna have lots lot you brother? Yeah, absolutely absolutely yeah, listening happy New Year happy New Year have a good one bye for now.

01:10:47.58
ukfilmreview
We do just keep growing this and growing. It's going to be great. Um, so yeah, thank you for listening and happy New year