UK Film Club - 004 - Fast X The Mother and Children Of Men

00:00.00
ukfilmreview
Hey Brian I'm good. Thank you you? okay.

00:00.60
Brian Penn
Like Chris say you doing yeah fine. Yeah yeah, all good, but it's it's still like Chris I mean the last time we did the podcast it was dark by Quas Fate wasn't it and now it's bright and sunny still or so anyway.

00:14.80
ukfilmreview
I know it's throwing me off slightly because it's that time of the year where you can't really watch certain films because you need the atmos. You know you can't necessarily watch like I don't know trying to think of an example but I guess horror films like you can't watch a horror film in the daytime.

00:18.35
Brian Penn
I.

00:30.23
Brian Penn
No now that that is probably true because it adds to the atmosphere doesn't it really? Yeah so I think you're probably probably right there. There are some films that you can watch at any time during the day others that just needs to be viewed at a certain sign. Don't I suppose it fits the mood.

00:44.76
ukfilmreview
I Say what they I did I remember watching um is it the strangers I think it's the strangers where it's like a home invasion film. And yeah, so that it's quite I think it's the strangers and I watched it. Um, oh was I I was on.

00:49.64
Brian Penn
No, right? so.

01:01.15
ukfilmreview
When I was working somewhere else and I had like a weekday off which was very unusual. So no one else was off and I was watching it must have been about like Eleven o'clock in the morning and because I wanted to create the atmosphere. So I shut the curtains and made it as dark as I could and I was watching it and I was still genuinely scared but it was quite weird that.

01:02.60
Brian Penn
Okay, all right? okay.

01:19.54
Brian Penn
You Yeah God you go to a lot of trouble. Don't you you love setting. The scene aren't yeah hey um I'm in prayer you see I I Just don't have the wherewithals to do that. But I know what you mean though, it's got it's got to create a move but that's not something you can do in the Cinema is it because it goes to the cinema.

01:19.55
ukfilmreview
Kind of finishing and then me kind of carrying on with the rest of my day I definitely.

01:37.56
Brian Penn
And it's in darkness anyway isn't it. You know? um so that kind of kills it a little bit but you can do that more when you're at home can't you I think that's ah, an interesting perspective Chris you again, you give me a lot to think about here you know, really only 5 bits in I mean you've already got me thinking honestly, really.

01:39.73
ukfilmreview
Um.

01:48.46
ukfilmreview
Here you go I'm getting you already set out. Yeah well there go. That's the best way to enjoy horror films you know shortcuts and if the Amazon man comes to the door. You just don't answer it. no no. no

01:55.32
Brian Penn
Yeah.

02:01.25
Brian Penn
Yeah I know and know yeah I's just back getting into the spirit things isn't there are literally Wow Yeah, scary. Yeah.

02:08.73
ukfilmreview
Is? Well we are back with episode 4 of ukfilm club. How exciting? um, it's the show that. Reviews everything really we review right? from the top right down not to the bottom because that sounds bad but to the shortest to short films. You know to the indie films. Um, and if you haven't listened to the show is your first time. Welcome welcome to the show um me and Brian are cricks where you go from review and.

02:19.93
Brian Penn
The yeah yeah course yeah.

02:30.39
Brian Penn
And.

02:37.42
ukfilmreview
In these episodes we like to cover the cinema releases largely by Brian um, and then we do a streaming pick so a film that's on streaming services then we do a couple of indie films and then we finish up with a nostalgia film which is something that basically is.

02:40.53
Brian Penn
He.

02:50.10
Brian Penn
That is like.

02:54.73
ukfilmreview
A little bit older I guess there's not really much and funny enough the film that we've picked this ah for this month is another bleak film. We did fight club last month and I'm thinking we've got to stop picking these bleak films like I know you can imagine me myself.

03:02.95
Brian Penn
And I we we've got to cheer ourselves up a bit next month and we a little bit on that school. Yeah.

03:11.21
ukfilmreview
Sitting in the dark watching these films getting all depressed like now need's something happier for next month but we'll get to that. Um, and in this episode very specially I everyone round of applause please made it to the cinema and Brian was there to witness this.

03:14.42
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, you need a bit light and show don't you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:24.72
Brian Penn
Yeah I was there I witnessed it I actually saw you go in. Yeah I sat next to you? Yeah, that's right? yeah.

03:31.42
ukfilmreview
You're witness that. Yeah yeah, so we were um, very privileged to watch the ah Media premiere I Guess of um, the new fast and furious film fast X and which is really good I reviewed it for the site and I know that.

03:41.33
Brian Penn
Yep.

03:49.51
ukfilmreview
Mad Wolf They also reviewed it for the site. Um, so I think it's my one that you'll see up there so we'll get into that in a minute but I think I'll first off just got a quick promo I Love a bit of promo. Um, so picture house got in touch to say that.

03:52.55
Brian Penn
Oh.

03:58.44
Brian Penn
Well tell me? oh yeah.

04:06.45
ukfilmreview
They are promoting the sundance film festival London for 2023 and that's taking place in July the sixth of the ninth. So yeah, we put a shout out on our stories. Um, although when you're listening to this. It's probably already gone.

04:07.25
Brian Penn
Oh wow.

04:19.56
Brian Penn
Oh ready I Wanna never do that. Yeah, someone's got down. Yeah.

04:21.80
ukfilmreview
But yeah I was on there but you can go to picture houses with an s at the end. She's a bit strange picture houses. Yeah I wonder who's got picture house someone at someone's got picturehouses.com/sundance and you'll be able to see the lineup. Um, interestingly. There's a short film showcase which a lot of our festivals do and one of the films in there is my eyes are up here and that was recently reviewed on the web site by William Hemingway and he loved it and he's not an easy critic to please. So yeah, he does give his fair share of of.

04:53.46
Brian Penn
Um, right? we like we like speaking strots if don't we at the same slim though. Yeah.

04:57.41
ukfilmreview
The low scores shall we say so we do we do and don't we wrong? William's a really great writer. Um, so for him to sort of give this 4 stars I'm thinking wow that must be something. Yeah yeah, um, so that's um, part of the the lineup at the sundance film festival London.

05:08.24
Brian Penn
It's square price indeed. Then? yeah.

05:15.99
ukfilmreview
So yeah, just shout out to those guys for for getting in touch and yeah, that's in July so shall we shall we go with the theatrical releases and then do fast x last does that work because I know you had some other films that you were going to review first. Let's let's do those.

05:20.22
Brian Penn
Um, it's stuff.

05:28.20
Brian Penn
Yeah, why not? okay, all right? So we do the my 5 for this month what or did you want me to take them in this time Chris any any particular preference right? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh nice one? yeah.

05:38.57
ukfilmreview
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna direct you this time I don't know why because Normallyman I let you go a free reign but I'm bit more organized this this time. So I'm gonna go well as long as you have seen them. Um, big George Foreman

05:48.13
Brian Penn
Yeah, cool course laugh. Oh big George Forman right okay then so right big George Foreman I want to give you the full title here because I don't know how they managed to get it on the poster but the full title title is big George Foreman colon

06:02.66
ukfilmreview
Um.

06:06.14
Brian Penn
The miraculous story of the once and future heavyweight champion of the world 16 words I mean honestly did they need a subtitle quite that long. It's beyond me I mean surely big George Forman kind of does it don't you think you know.

06:18.40
ukfilmreview
I I mean because I'm looking at now and that poster design I probably thought I'm not going to put anything else on. It is no point just put that and the guy and and that's it is to yeah.

06:24.55
Brian Penn
Yeah I know know you it crowds it out doesn't it anyway. So this is directed by George Tillman Juniorr starring Chris Davis as foreman and Forst whitakeo is trainer dot brous now this is the story of 1 of the greatest heavyweight boxes of all time. Yeah I don't know how familiar listeners are with boxing if I just mentioned Muhammad Ali Joe Frazier Ken Norton Jimmy Ellis and George Forn himself you had fighters who were at rare quality and distinction and they were all in their prime during the 1970 S ah, formerman won the world title from Joe Frazier but lost it to Muhammad Ali in a fight famously known as the rombo in the jungle. But I guess the bigger part of Forman's story was coming out of retirement to win the world title again at the age of 45 overall it's a solid bypic with a steady pace. 6 auto right? boxes. There are no great revelations unsurprising as forman himself was executive producer so there'll be no skeletons rattling here. Chris Davis is very good in the title role but in many ways, the film belongs to forest whitaker as the battle hardened trainer. What I like about his performance is that he doesn't overplay the character. It's like Billy Wilder the director used to say less is more. He reins it in and makes a bigger impression as a result a thoroughly enjoyable film great soundtrack if you're a fan of 70 soul and funk.

07:56.21
Brian Penn
This is the film for you. Ah, yeah.

07:58.79
ukfilmreview
There we go I mean I love a boxing film. Um I think we've said this before on the pod. It's it's a genre upon itself isn't it specifically boxing I think um, it's got everything cinematic that you kind of want and I mean George Foreman is household name.

08:04.42
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, it is yeah. Yeah, yeah.

08:16.66
ukfilmreview
Ah, even even over here and and even kind of yeah now.

08:17.29
Brian Penn
Well yeah, yeah I mean even even if you know him as the promoter of the lean mean grilling machine as well which he made an awful lot of money out out of back in the ases but like.

08:29.30
ukfilmreview
I was doing my best not to bring it out but I'm glad you did because you know it's relevant there. We go.

08:34.16
Brian Penn
Yeah I mean was Scott I mean they mentioned it in the film. So if they mention in the film we can mention it here. Yeah, it's relevant. It's current and it's relevant now a very good film I likes it I think it's been getting some slightly mixed reviews I don't know whether people expected to see a bit more dirt being dished. But I think it gave a fairly.

08:51.87
ukfilmreview
Um.

08:53.63
Brian Penn
Balanced account of his life particularly his humble beginnings coming from a very poor family in a very poor part of Houston in Texas to winning the olympic gold medal at Mexico City 1968 cer professional the old story of. Making a fortune then losing it through bad investments bad deals. Bad management deals then having to make a comeback in his in his forces. It does really read a bit like a hollywood film script. But it's all true and I think I know George Forman's story relatively well enough to say that's a fair account. You know it. I mean no pundding intended it. It doesn't pull any punches get it. Ah, it had to be done dent. It really come on. Be honest, ah.

09:31.28
ukfilmreview
We are if I'd have reviewed it. It would have just been full of it. That's all I do I'm just full of puns. That's all I do.

09:39.91
Brian Penn
Ah, ah, but you see the thing is though boxing's got lots of great phrases that that have entered into alexcon aren't they really you know out for the count beaten sort the punch all that type of thing. Um, but no a very good film I really enjoyed it and it.

09:50.40
ukfilmreview
E.

09:57.87
Brian Penn
Such is it such is a cold with with people in in some way because pugilism is the ultimate warrior art isn't it and I I take it as art because when it's when it's done properly when you've got 2 great vices in the ring and George Foreman represents a great era for heavyweight boxing. In general. So yeah, good stuff really enjoyed that.

10:21.63
ukfilmreview
There you go big George Foreman I'm not going to do the full title because I've already clicked away and I don't want to have to look it up again. Um, now this next one I've got this vague feeling that you said you didn't get to see it. Um, but let's just see if it's the film the unlikely pilgrimage of harold fry.

10:27.22
Brian Penn
Ah.

10:30.85
Brian Penn
Which was yeah I saw that? Yep yeah I saw that I Okay then so yeah, so what we got then is it's film directed by Hessy mcdonald.

10:37.89
ukfilmreview
You did see it all right crack on.

10:47.48
Brian Penn
Starring Jim Bent as harold and Penelope Wilson as his wife mooring when I sat down to write this review I had to resist the sensation to use phrases like heartwarming and lifeairming. It's that kind of film. It's based on a book by Rachel Joyce and tells a story of Harold and mooring.

10:59.27
ukfilmreview
Um.

11:06.19
Brian Penn
Who live in quiet retirement on the South Coast harold receives a letter from queenie who is in a hospice and writing to say goodbye was quite sad anyway, he struggles to write a response on the way to the post office. It has what would you call it an epiphany. Perhaps. And decides to walk all the way to barrackon sweed so he can say goodbye to queenie in person now to appreciate this film. You need to omit the logic because the first thing you think is why doesn't he just get on a train and go and see her but this is Harold's eccentricity at play.

11:37.51
ukfilmreview
Um.

11:42.56
Brian Penn
Sees the walkers in atonement for all the things he's got wrong in his life. It's a charming film the story gently unfolds and we learn exactly what the deal is between him and queenie and it's not necessarily what you'd expect. We also learn of a troubled relationship with his son David which fills in all the blanks. But I would say it's a very british film and a very likable film. Really really a nice watch. Yeah, it is great. Yeah, absolutely yeah, you've you've nailed it. There.

12:07.11
ukfilmreview
This feels right up my street I love a this is my warm Sunday feeling film. Um I watched um the fisherman's friends to the weekend. Um, which is not as good as the first one.

12:18.44
Brian Penn
Ah, right? Yeah, what you think of it. You never at the never are are they I spin Never all.

12:24.61
ukfilmreview
Um, where they never are the first one was was good but the second one it was very pull in it. Yeah, put in it strings and trying to make something I think that wasn't really that or needed. Um, but it.

12:35.76
Brian Penn
Yeah.

12:39.85
ukfilmreview
You got to go into these sort of films very forgiving and very kind of like you know what? I just kind of want the sensation of a film washing over me. Um, and that's why I get with that.

12:42.19
Brian Penn
You? Yeah yeah, you yeah exactly you want to like it and the thing is I think fisherman's friends not as good as the original courses. But it's so well written and the characters are so well drawn and they're very likeable. Ah, that human quality and you you can't it's the same thing with the harold fry movie. Um, they're just very likable and they do grow on you as people I like Jim Brall bent I like pen. Ah yeah, and I like pet Penelope Wilton so what I would say though is that after I write my review I don't want you to. But do you.

13:07.71
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, he's great isn't there.

13:19.27
Brian Penn
Do you write your own view review then read other people. So do you? What do you do here? ah.

13:24.20
ukfilmreview
It depends Sometimes if I'm really struggling I go and steal someone's review. No I don't um now I think sometimes I'll go and read reviews then when I've seen the film and I I've got maybe like my draft because sometimes.

13:33.82
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:39.63
ukfilmreview
You think something but you can't quite put it into words. Yeah, not that you're trying to steal it more just trying to shape it in your mind as to what it is that you're trying to write about Um, ah so sometimes but rarely I normally like to just post my review and then I'll go read elsewhere.

13:41.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, no you you? yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm more or less the same as you I mean sometimes reading somebody else's review. Can you can articulate your own thoughts a bit more can't you I think that's what it boils down to.

14:02.10
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

14:05.92
Brian Penn
But usually I do exactly what you do, but I write my review first then I start looking at other reviews just to see how how close we are in opinions or how far apart we are now I read some of the reviews of the harold fry movie and I have to say I was a little bit disappointed with with the kind of the vibe I was getting. Because they were saying Well I the impression I got was that um, it's a film for older people because the characters are elderly or they're in the in their seventy s and I find that such a shame to think that because it's characterbased and it's good storytelling that.

14:39.20
ukfilmreview
Um.

14:44.47
Brian Penn
People think it won't be of any interest to people under the age of 30 You know what? I mean it I found that a bit a bit sad. Really.

14:49.72
ukfilmreview
It's for it's I think they know Target Demographics but I do think that's very unfair to to put those sort of things out. Um as I say I'm an absolute sucker for a soft warm film and I'm in my thirty s and I've liked these films for you know, a long time. Um.

14:55.42
Brian Penn
To. Yeah, yeah.

15:06.75
ukfilmreview
I Think genre is applicable because people are often drawn to more some some drop genres more than others depending on their age but it's the same thing like with animation. It gets pigeonholed Oh animation is for kids but it's so not is it at all.

15:13.84
Brian Penn
M yeah. Yeah, exactly no not at all. No yeah.

15:24.77
ukfilmreview
And it's universal and I think these stories are universal. It's just sometimes they sort of get a bit tied up with their own marketing. But um I Also think sometimes they lose a bit of their audience because of.

15:29.76
Brian Penn
Yeah.

15:40.98
ukfilmreview
Maybe they're trying to do that you say they're doing things that wouldn't make sense to a younger audience like him not jumping on a train or calling an uber or you know it's like it doesn't make sense to ah to a younger generation. So maybe there's that but I still think they can understand that I think people can and like you know when I watch a period drama. It's like oh I can't understand this at all.

15:43.35
Brian Penn
Yeah, exactly? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, who. And I Yeah I know Yeah, yeah, exactly? Yeah yeah.

15:59.54
ukfilmreview
Even though I yeah I because I wasn't there. It's like no I can understand how they lived like that and I can yeah people who grew up without phones can understand how people had to get by without a mobile phone and I'm saying that because I'm seeing him on the trailer inside like ah 1 of those classic post boxes. So I'm guessing that comes into it. Um, but I think it's.

16:12.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, that's right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

16:18.33
ukfilmreview
It's so in fair are these studios and things that that way and these marketing departments that kind of make these decisions and say oh well, they won't get it. So don't market those people. It's like well that's not really fair.

16:21.71
Brian Penn
It and I it's ah it's not fair. It's a missstop opportunity I think because they rob the film of a much wider rep Appealal because it's so narrow and I think that's such a shame because it's.

16:35.33
ukfilmreview
And.

16:40.91
Brian Penn
It's the type of film that that you know does make you feel it does make you feel.. It's a feel good film and what's wrong with that I think we need more films like that that that don't necessarily go for the jocular right? It's a gentle story that gradually builds and reaches. Ah, a. And interesting climax as a saider touched on it earlier on that it. It's not quite the the finale that you emerge in so it it surprises you as well. I think it does anyway. So yeah, but.

17:12.12
ukfilmreview
Well moving from one film shall I say aimed at ah, an older audience to another with book club to the next chapter.

17:15.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, right? Yeah book club two. Okay, then. So this is directed by Bill Holderman and stars take a deep breath here. Diane Keaton Jane Fonda Marysteinurgeon Caniceceberg and Andy Garcia Don Johnson and c crazyine nelson pew it it and I is is I've actually forgotten Hugh Quay as well isn't it. So that's an even bigger more quality cast than you could ever imagine. So um, it's a sequel to the first book club made in 20 a c.

17:39.65
ukfilmreview
Gosh That's a cast isn't it. So since.

17:55.90
Brian Penn
This time four friends go on a bachelorette party swicily as they mark the engagement of vivian played by Jane Fonda now it's a great cast and they they do carry the film up to a certain extent it does't. We've just touched on this actually. It does foul the the test of all sequels. It's just not as good as the original in the first film they read 50 shas a grey and went on to show how the book affected their lines. How their relationships were enhanced shall we say but this story runs more on fumes. It's just not really enough there to keep it going. Um, having said that it's a pleasant watch you get to see skill practitioners at work and it would be less of a film without them. 1 thing I did mention in the review that the written review that I have to mention here though is that italy looks absolutely spectacular. It might it could just as easily be an advert for the italian film board a tourist board like Peggy upon um, suscany rome Venice look they look spectacular now'd be difficult to film italy and make you look na I know that's true, but it does add to the appeal of the film. But.

18:49.31
ukfilmreview
Fin.

19:07.58
Brian Penn
But it is very lightweight. It's very lightweight but I think the cast do carry it through just about.

19:13.96
ukfilmreview
Well we have got fast x coming up and yeah, they did also film in Rome so we'll get into that. But um.

19:16.48
Brian Penn
I did yeah yeah that's right well yeah but but yeah I mean a very a very nice film but it's not going to be for everyone to everyone's taste and in some ways it's the I mean we just mentioned fast x we were location filming thisly as well. You couldn't get a. Um, more of a contrast really? but ah I just like the cast I think the cast lifted above mediocrity. It would be nothing without them really if you if you put 7 or 8 lesser actors in that in those roles. It wouldn't work I mean you've got some what used to be some very big players. There. You know you've got Jane Fonder and Diane Ke and Mary Steamberg um you know Candysburg and maybe not quite such a major player but these are all really topno charts. You had their time but are just jumping on on something that did well the first time around and. Yeah they're making the most of a sequel which doesn't really do it but I enjoyed it more for the cast and more for the way they interact together. Um, you can tell there's a natural chemistry. They all get on. They all seem like friends. You know if you ever watched a movie and you thought you think to yourself. They really get on. There's nothing. Act they're not in some ways on an accent because they do see seem to be like friends anyway, you know do you know the type of thing I mean yeah.

20:39.00
ukfilmreview
I Do I think you in that chemistry is right? You feel it You do feel it as an audience and whether you believe it I think there? Um, yeah, especially if you're looking at like ah not so much this but like a romantic film like you know whether or not you believe it and funny enough again with fast x.

20:48.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:56.46
ukfilmreview
I'm not sure I believe it I'm not sure I believe they are family but you know but were yeah but that doesn't matter. This is what all my review I I said with Farex It didn't really matter because it's just you're just there for something else. But anyway again, we'll get to that I keep jumping ahead I'm just so excited. You can tell I haven't been to the Cinema for a while. Can't you.

20:56.60
Brian Penn
Well now add to see that. Yeah you know? yeah.

21:06.37
Brian Penn
Yeah, that's right's right? Yeah, so slight I know I know your hyper right? Yeah I can sense it. Yeah I know.

21:15.93
ukfilmreview
Yeah, so that was a book club the next chapter now I'm confused about this next one Ryan because it's called the notebook I thought that film would come out a long time ago.

21:23.15
Brian Penn
No yeah, actually the I replaced it with another film I got I got my list Mita see list mixed up all right? So I replaced it with it with another one which is missing now missing. This is an interesting one.

21:31.89
ukfilmreview
Um, okay, go on him.

21:38.50
ukfilmreview
Yep.

21:43.99
Brian Penn
Now this film I was actually going to review on the on the previous podcast but we just didn't I didn't have time to see it but it came out on the twenty first of April um, and it's still running now and it's directed by Nicholas D Johnson and will Merrick. Starring storm read as June and near long as mother grace her mother Grace and ah so yeah, it's an interesting one because it's a genre known as screen life movies which is visual storytelling where all the events are shown on a computer.

22:12.76
ukfilmreview
A.

22:19.45
Brian Penn
Ah, tablet or a smartphone now. The story is fairly simple Grace goes on the holiday to Columbia with her new partner Kevin she leaves June a list of dos and donmes but a teenage you parents away. Well you make the most of it don't you anyway. June goes to the airport to meet them on the day of their return. But they don't show up. She grows increasingly anxious and realizes they've gone missing back home June begins to track their movements online and you really don't realize how easy it is to find people now. None of us could flow into the rado anymore which is a blessing and a curse and equal measure. Film itself has real pace and sometimes feels like a blur if you're ic literate which I am not particularly um, you'll pick up a lot more from it because I was thinking wow how can you do that I didn't know you could do that I was thinking that all the way through the film but it very compact and very cleverly put together. And a film where well worth catching if you can before it goes goes onto stream.

23:20.67
ukfilmreview
Funny enough you you said about this film and I thought oh I've already seen this um and it's because which I haven't by the way. The reason I thought I had is I saw a film um, twenty eighteen called searching have you seen that film with John cho.

23:24.40
Brian Penn
Ah, but yeah.

23:32.32
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's actually actually you yeah I have seen it and it's made by the same team The same team of directors and writers I Yeah no is it's the same directors Now you've mentioned that it's reminded me because when I was doing my research on this.

23:40.11
ukfilmreview
I was going to say because if not, they are really trying to rip off this other film.

23:51.74
Brian Penn
Ah, did it reminded me of the fact that I saw that film when it when it was first on but I didn't connect the 2 But yeah, you're right? it is. It's very similar and it's written, but it's written on directed by the same same people. Yeah.

24:02.62
ukfilmreview
You sure she doesn't say that is on now Mt B but oh might I think they wrong? Oh no, you're all rightev serve Ohhanan um, big. Yeah because even the posters are like identical. They've got this blue kind of screens everywhere. Um.

24:05.88
Brian Penn
Yeah I thought yeah I thought so yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:17.60
ukfilmreview
But yeah, no, it sounds great I Love those sort of films when they're done Well they can be awful because you know no one wants any more time looking at screens. But when you when they're done and they're compelling I actually think it's a genre that could be very adaptable and very relevant to audiences at the moment. We all kind of are living a lot more in these.

24:22.31
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

24:31.80
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I I have to say though the genre itself was news to me I'd never heard of it previously screen life. But I see what it's getting out though because they're containing all the action on a couple of screens.

24:37.10
ukfilmreview
Screen So interesting.

24:49.85
Brian Penn
But a lot of the time you don't notice it because when the film's playing and you're watching it. You'll see her working on screen but she'll bring up a news report or an Abc report or something and it doesn't feel like it's necessarily. You're watching a screen on a screen on a screen kind of thing.

25:05.73
ukfilmreview
Fifty fifty there

25:08.75
Brian Penn
If you see what I'm getting at but you don't necessarily. It doesn't necessarily come across that way but very good film very different, very unusual. But yeah, it's a genre that I think will will grow but it has to be properly done and as you say we spend so much of our lives staring at screens. All right when you go to the movies you're staring at 1 big screen but they're kind of this. You know the screen itself splits since 3 or 4 but it's it's scary again. It's that word that I've sometimes come back to with a filmline is is's scary. What? what? But you can learn about people online what you can do. But. Online. We are really living the shroomman show now aren't we um, Lord don't get me slighted about ai. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

25:49.92
ukfilmreview
Well, especially with the rise of ai I mean we're all doomed now anyway, so yeah, let's ah, let's enjoy it while we can um by Brian that was four films did you do another one or was it fast x goneip.

26:02.95
Brian Penn
I did another one yet I did oh yeah, right? Okay, um, it is what's the fifth one yet. It's called. Are you there god it's me Margaret now. Yeah.

26:17.69
ukfilmreview
You're right Brian you have and a little turn. Yeah.

26:19.52
Brian Penn
Yeah, you think about in a moment. Yeah, no man. That's really what the film's called. It came out actually on Friday on the nineteenth of may so it's just come out now. Um this is directed by Kelly Freeman Craig and stars Aie Rder Forson Margaret Rachel Macadams plays on mother Barbara. And we also get the brilliant Kathy Batkees ' grandma sillvia now this is a family drama that gently tugs at the heartstrings but is never sentimental or predictable Margaret is twelve years old and about to enter Sixth grade. However, a world is turned upside down when her dad is promoted and they move to New Jersey this means a new school and new classmates Margaret is quickly welcomed into a private club headed by Nancy who to a horror is the owner of a 32 a bra. The girls set each other a series of challenges including who will be the first to get a period the pressure cranks up even more for Margaret whose family is divided by religion. Jewish father and a christian mother puts her in the middle of a domestic war. However, a teacher Mr Benedict makes a suggestion writes a projects about religion and what it means to her I absolutely love this film. It's the film and a month for me at the 5 that I've reviewed.

27:33.87
ukfilmreview
Wow.

27:36.84
Brian Penn
It's it's my favorite. It takes the girl reaching puberty storyline and adds a unique twist. What does religion mean to a twelve year old is god listening to our hopes fears and aspirations which is where the title comes from originality is such a rare thing in films these days. You know it naturally stands out from the rest. Because of that it does something different it like it takes a world warm storyline and think right? How can we? How can we present this to the audience in a different way. It's based on a book as well. But I think it was very clever I think the the girl that plays Margaret. She's the type of. Type of child out aby rid forson she's the type of actually think god if she can survive growing up. She's gonna be a massive star. She really is you know, but really enjoyed it very good.

28:27.20
ukfilmreview
Fantastic, well those are your 5 that Brian has very kindly gone unseen and reviewed. Um, we're going to move to the premiere that we were both able to attend which was fast x um, and.

28:37.50
Brian Penn
And yeah.

28:42.86
ukfilmreview
I myself am a fast and furious fan would you classify yourself as 1 Brian.

28:47.74
Brian Penn
Um, I'm probably um I'm probably on the on the way you know I'm on the way to being a fan I think this this is probably the best 1 for me so far. Ah, maybe because it's still fresh in my mind.

28:50.63
ukfilmreview
On the way.

28:56.79
ukfilmreview
Wow.

29:03.10
Brian Penn
Maybe when the when the next one comes out which it inevitably will do. Ah maybe that'll be my favorite but but yeah, but I think it's difficult not to like a film like fast and furious because it's so visually arresting that you can't help but like it you know I mean they're in the entertainment business and it is about entertainment. So.

29:06.16
ukfilmreview
Perfect.

29:21.43
ukfilmreview
So.

29:22.39
Brian Penn
Yeah, you know I'd class myself as a fan but probably not not in the advanced stage that you are shall we say.

29:29.33
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and don't get me wrong I I know everything that's wrong with the films like I've had some people kind of have big chats with me about them saying you know you know this is rubbish and this is rubbish. Yeah I know it's rubbish. But that's not why I like them. Um, if I mean.

29:32.12
Brian Penn
E.

29:39.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, ah.

29:44.70
ukfilmreview
My eyes roll nonstop when I'm watching these films because the dialogue is just atrocious. The dialogue is is it was like it was written by yeah, one in the 90 s who was just yeah on a sugar rush but it's got that kind of first off, it's pure cinema you you.

29:45.17
Brian Penn
And I and I and I yeah I and I yeah.

29:59.64
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

30:02.58
ukfilmreview
Get about 10 times more enjoyment out of this by watching it on a big screen than you would watching at home and with the screening that we were in at least 5 or 6 times the ah audience erupted into applause and yelling and yeah because of things that happening and that's the kind of experience I think that you only get.

30:05.89
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

30:12.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, that is yeah yeah.

30:19.54
Brian Penn
Yes, yeah, yeah.

30:20.60
ukfilmreview
This sort of film at the cinema. So um, it's got all that going in terms of the actual plot I mean I I was a little bit sketchy in terms of the last couple of films because I think I've only seen them once and they did just they went in and went out like as they always do but essentially dom and in his family. They're all kind of settled.

30:28.44
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

30:39.57
ukfilmreview
And they're working with the cia and all that lot like they're kind of now in on the same level. Um the character a car remember is named that one who tires Gibson Plays Roman is now kind of going to be leading operations. They're about to go and do one in Rome as we've mentioned. Um.

30:41.40
Brian Penn
My own there. So.

30:53.39
Brian Penn
And yep.

30:59.40
ukfilmreview
But at the beginning of film. We essentially see clips from the previous series of films of fast and furious whereby a character. We didn't know was there was actually there the whole time and it's it's pleased by he was wasn't it and he's not a small guy either I'm surprised we didn't notice him at.

31:06.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, hard in play select. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:17.51
ukfilmreview
Jason Momoa who plays Dante and did you think there's some kind of connection with like you know the volcano like Dante's inferno is that what they're doing I thought that's what they were doing but I didn't want to kind of put words in their mouth. Um, okay yes, ah.

31:24.00
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I guess so that's the reference point isn't it really I think Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, it looks like that to me to be honest, yeah.

31:36.13
ukfilmreview
So Dante was this son of the bank manager who got robbed in film 5 I think where they're put in the safe across the the city and the 2 cars so he is then has been plotting against Dominicque Toretto Vidy's character for many years and.

31:43.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

31:51.17
Brian Penn
And.

31:54.96
ukfilmreview
Has orchestrated his doom shall we say in a series of incredible as you might expect stunts and scenes and sequences that just kind of they don't stop. It's absolutely relentless this film. Um, it.

31:56.65
Brian Penn
No. Are yeah. Yeah, yeah, it is it is It is definitely.

32:11.13
ukfilmreview
Just keeps coming and yeah, essentially this is definitely part of at least two films I think it might be 3 films I think there's been some rumors about being three films. Um, whether or not that's then going to be the end I don't know I think it makes too much money for anyone to say just yet. But um, yeah, this is all now part of dominick's.

32:23.21
Brian Penn
That.

32:30.38
ukfilmreview
Potential biggest foe that he's faced who's always always seems to be at least 3 steps ahead in this film like he just seems to know exactly what's going to happen every single time.

32:31.68
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

32:37.76
Brian Penn
And know and I yeah bit too clever freeze I'm good when you think how on Earth can you can he but be that that forward thinking you know and so think that quickly and when you when you're mucking about with cars and explosives and guns and what have you? yeah.

32:45.81
ukfilmreview
And I.

32:54.23
Brian Penn
Does leave much room for error is it really when you think about it.

32:56.27
ukfilmreview
No I mean there was at least 3 or 4 times when the Dante character could easily have been killed in the film and he isn't but I'd thought yeah I'm not gonna tell how to do a job. Vindy's all, but you know, um, there's loads of subplots in this film as well. There's so many subplots because you've got.

33:01.34
Brian Penn
Yeah, and we hang on I mean on.

33:14.14
ukfilmreview
Char Theron Her character cypher is kind of involved. She used the first one who kind of warned dominic about Dante but then she gets kind of taken away to a um I Don know some kind of secure facility and Michelle Michelle Rodriguez is there I'll try not to give away too many spoilers but there will be spoilers in this review.

33:14.70
Brian Penn
Oh yeah.

33:28.99
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:34.70
ukfilmreview
Um, you've then got John Sina who is on a road trip with vindy's or Dominic Row's son and because he's trying to protect them then you got ah the 3 of them have ended up in London which is like the ludicrous tege character Ramsey played by Natalie Emmanuel and roman.

33:42.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

33:50.70
Brian Penn
Um, no.

33:54.12
ukfilmreview
They've ended up there. So everyone's kind of split up at this point. It's very much kind of globehotting again for the fast and furious and what did you think of that.

33:57.90
Brian Penn
And yeah. Well, but I think that generally speaking the the film itself is jawroping the good entertainment. It's just no question. It's you're visually stunning the plot itself I think they leave a lot of strands running. Don't they which is obviously a sign that. There. There's gonna be another film maybe 2 or 3 but you know I think the plot though such as it is gets buried by the visuals that you all you it almost seems incidental. What the what the storyline is and where the plot might be going. You're completely distracted by the visuals now. Think it's all about the stunts and all about the visuals to be fair, it doesn't pretend to be anything else. It's very It's very honest about what it's saying out there but but it's it's ah you you we sat there watching it didn't we and you think god that's incredible and it was as you say relentless you think. How and after they do that. It's really challenging the laws of physics some of the things they were doing and I think with a film like this I think I'd even say the stmp men and Stump women are more the stars than than Venn dies always but you can't argue with the entertainment by you there can you really.

35:16.20
ukfilmreview
No, and I think again, it's what people know they know about what they're going into by this point I was talking to a friend who he likes the the early films in the series. Whether it's more about the the cars and the racing and yeah and that could have been an interesting.

35:21.58
Brian Penn
And yeah.

35:28.78
Brian Penn
I.

35:33.58
ukfilmreview
Franchise you know where if they did go down that route where it was a bit more gritty and more underground whereas this is more in line with like a James Bond kind of film and and all that sort of stuff.

35:35.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, but it is yeah it is kind of guy that way I mean you look at I mean you look at something like mission impossible The franchise there. It's gone so far away from what it was meant to be that you've almost forgotten.

35:45.84
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

35:54.39
Brian Penn
What mission impossible was all about that mission impossible was based on it on a brilliant series show from the sixty s and seventy s but you would never know that where it is now where it started out and it's the same thing with fast and furious is that they've taken it off it. Off on a route that they know is going to work. They know it's going to please the punners but that I think in some ways when when you get the next one when the next one comes out. They've got to try and top what they've done in this one. You know it's got to get progressively more adventurous. Otherwise you're not. You know you're not going to get any joy if you just repeating what you've already done. You know I mean my overview of a film like fast and furious. Great. It's the same that I enjoyed it but I could use this said the same thing about the previous line films because it it's visually stimulating. You know, um. My reference point for action movies as I'm sure you know is diehard Lethal weapon bad boys that's type of film. You see what they do is that they give you they give you the visual stimulation but they give you strong characters and they give you a good script.

36:54.72
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

37:05.14
Brian Penn
That's funny and engaging. So it gives you a bit more than just the visuals and that's where I think fast the furorists could they could try a little bit hard. But then again, maybe it doesn't really matter Chris at the end of the day because you you go by how much you've been in sustained. So.

37:12.82
ukfilmreview
50

37:22.64
Brian Penn
Might in our function as critics we say well this is where it might be falling down but the bottom line is our people weren't the same by it and you say hell yeah of course. Absolutely.

37:32.30
ukfilmreview
Well I don't think I if they haven't put that on the poster I think they should you know? hell yeah there we go Hell yeah um so well fast and furious. It's all about family and what do you need in a family you need the mother and that's where we're going next.

37:36.40
Brian Penn
Wow Hell yeah hell yeah.

37:49.81
Brian Penn
Oh that is the Seamless link. Oh I am impressed Damn that is good that is so good. Oh God Ah not honestly I'm not worthy now. Oh no, really yeah, okay then.

37:53.24
ukfilmreview
Boom and I made that up off the top of my head me know there we go. Ah so it's um, starring Jennifer you've seen this right? you you said it is yep.

38:05.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, so yeah, yeah.

38:06.94
ukfilmreview
So on Netflix this month I believe ah may if you're listening to it now and stars Jennifer Lopez you want to give the synopsis on this one Brian.

38:15.36
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yep, ah, that's gettingdding. Let's getp my notes up? Yeah, okay so this is on Netflix then it's directed by nikki carra stars Jenifer Lopez as answer the mother I don't think she actually has a character named does she they just call her the mother I don't know.

38:31.41
ukfilmreview
Yeah, which I think is is very telling isn't it.

38:33.78
Brian Penn
And yeah, anyway, yeah so Lucy pay has plays her daughter Zoe and Joseph Finenes plays the arch villain Adrian Love well Adrian Lovell but they call him the val don't they see aspirates. We'd say lovell.

38:49.56
ukfilmreview
You can imagine you can imagine him in the school yard in the U K or love a love what you're doing ma oh you lovell.

38:50.11
Brian Penn
But they call him lavale course they would do? Yeah yeah, no and I so now the mother is an ex army that a trained assassin who has crossed 2 heavy, juicy villains. 1 of whom is Adrian Lavell she later gives birth to a baby girl who immediately becomes a target the Fbi arrange her adoption and give her a new identity. The mother is banished to deepest Alaska but the badies find her daughter called Zoe and this brings the mother out of hiding to face her demons now i. I really enjoyed this that this I think is top nor chance entertainment. It really is for 1 thing. How does Jennifer Lopez manage to look so young. You know I mean she's 50 3 or 54 or something I mean. She's either got a very good classic surgeon or she's got pi of hands's jeans honestly I mean again, visuals are great. The stunts are great. She she is kind of believable ah in the right world is that reason why she wouldn't be but what struck me about this film Chris though was that if it had been made. Thirty years ago or twenty years ago this film would be called the father and the title role would be played by a man. But now we've got the mother title or I played by a woman now the the bus phrase is all about a equality errors you know and there you got a great example of a quality.

40:07.73
ukfilmreview
Yep.

40:22.20
Brian Penn
Because the lead is female strong powerful determined a leading role that would have been played by a man. Do you know what? I'm getting at and you think isn't that good though to.

40:31.28
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, a hundred percent because when I was watching it I really enjoyed it I thought excellent that what I likes about it that it felt yeah, this feels like it's Liam Leesson's role right? It feels should me and Neland is going to play this role and.

40:35.84
Brian Penn
Yeah.

40:41.77
Brian Penn
Yeah I know yeah.

40:47.00
ukfilmreview
If've not, you've got someone far more interesting. You know we've seen Liam do all those films already and and he's done so many of them now but this felt fresh. It felt a bit newer but also still believable. It didn't feel like they were shoehorning in. Oh it's a female garrot but you know it should be a man is it? No, it is should be ah, a woman because the whole.

40:50.46
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:59.12
Brian Penn
Yeah, you buy into it. Yeah.

41:06.42
ukfilmreview
Point of it is that you know, especially in the earlier scenes where there's a very disturbing situation which um, she gets attacked whilst pregnant that it's actually and her maternal instincts are coming out through the film. Um, they're playing on that like with the.

41:11.58
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:21.97
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is yeah.

41:22.58
ukfilmreview
When she's in Alaska and there's these wolves that are around and they're very protective and it's it's it's playing on a lot of themes that actually haven't seen a lot, especially not within the action thriller kind of um genre that I found it.

41:32.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

41:37.44
ukfilmreview
Very engaging very compelling I was so surprised to see a lot of negative reviews around the mother I thought really I thought it was much better than that and than what I'd seen.

41:45.54
Brian Penn
Oh I mean yeah, it does surprise me but I mean it, everyone's got got got a view haven't I you know everyone's got an opinion. But ah, you know I think to to criticize that type of film the way they've approached it the way it's been made. You know you buy into the currency you believe you believe the character you believe it's happened. You know, um, anything's possible. You know, beneath that set you know the surface that we live in our lives of convention routine respectability. There's an undercurrent right? There are things going on that we don't know about. So. It's perfectly possible that a character like the mother could exist somewhere right and could be this skilled be a skilled Mark Marksman be skilled with with in martial arts. You can take care of us so and can come out of hiding. To protect a daughter that she's never met. You know it's it's keeping a sufficient grip on reality but it's it's it's kind of outrageous enough to say well, that's that's a bit of a jump but it's possible. It's feasible and I like storytelling where it's kind of out there a little bit but you can believe it. It's kind of feasible. You know it's possible. It's slightly you know I like that. So yeah, I'm surprised by the negative reviews because I don't know what what else you would really want in a in a film. They're good at action movie you know and it's also got got great Kate Bush on the soundtrack. This woman's work which is a great track as well.

43:17.48
ukfilmreview
Yeah, that works really well in that scene when it comes on new. Yeah, yeah, because I always watch with subtarts on and when you see the lyrics over the top of what's playing actually as ah, that's very very telling very potent. Um.

43:18.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, ah you know at the end when it's just sort of when the clothes and starts are coming up is Kate Bush this one's work which is a great song. So.

43:28.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, very apps. Yeah, definitely.

43:34.34
ukfilmreview
I reallyd as well was the fact that they didn't drag out the fact that Zoe was her daughter in terms of because it could have easily been that film where you know ah Jennifer Lopez is being very protective but the the girl doesn't really know why but they she the girl is really they.

43:42.17
Brian Penn
Ah.

43:48.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

43:53.65
ukfilmreview
Cluew her in quite early on and she guesses she's like are you my mother like she kind of works it out and I liked that they they didn't make her like this like fool of a child. It was like no no, she actually is quite formidable herself. So.

43:57.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, and ah, yeah, no yeah, she yeah, that's right, she's um, mature enough and intelligent enough to know that yeah I know what's going on here but you see the thing is again. That's where where the. Kind of the notion of common sense kicks in a little bit and you can say to the audience yet. We thought that bit there you know so we've made her a bit wiser that she's not going to be quite that naive I mean she's 12 or first scene isn't she so she's old not to sort of work out. What's going on right? I ah I don't think it's possible that. Someone in that situation would know absolutely nothing about their background at school something will get out. You know I don't think anything can stay secret for very long and that's partly what he trains on but you know great visuals I think Alaska looks amazing. You know of all the locations they could have gone to I mean. Alaska is spectacular that kind of purity and that simplicity and that scene that you mentioned with the wolves looking after the cubs when she's confronted by the wolf and the wolf sees sees her. She sees her cubs. You know it's almost that that trade-off between you know she appreciate. Appreciates what being a mother is you know and I think there's nothing that's said or it's written, but it's just visuals and that's beautiful to look at I think yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:19.74
ukfilmreview
Pretty good. That's the mother. Um, and yeah, definitely want to watch I I actually do hope more people seek out because I think it's well worth your time. Um, and that's just streaming pick for this month we're gonna move on now to a couple of.

45:29.77
Brian Penn
Yeah.

45:35.82
ukfilmreview
Short indie films because what we love doing it and also the filmmakers reached out to me on my Twitter feed which is pinned to my profile if you want to go to that and have a look at some of the other films that people have asked us to review and we've already done a few of them on the podcast. So listen to those episodes to do everything.

45:38.40
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

45:51.84
Brian Penn
M.

45:55.93
ukfilmreview
Everything listen to everything share everything like everything. That's all you got to do that's all we want isn't it Brian we just want everyone to pay us all their attention. That's all we want exactly? um you seen. Ah, you've seen both of these Brian so it doesn't matter where I start. Ah, let's go with iba.

45:56.84
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I Saw win. Yeah I I need some life a simple one like really you know? Yeah yeah I see both these No. No, not so But. My home.

46:15.62
ukfilmreview
Um, directed by Zan Gilmore and this was an interesting short. This was the first one that I watched that's what I'm doing in this order and it's about this um writer. He's a wouldbe writer and he's on a road trip with his. Um. Think it's his friend I'm not sure if it's friend or partner. But um, they're on their on the way somewhere he is very obsessed with um so scottish mythology I guess in terms of what's going on. Um, and then he ends up speaking to this mystic character and she.

46:33.43
Brian Penn
Yeah.

46:42.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I think.

46:51.90
ukfilmreview
Tells him of a gateway to another world which is through water. Um, and he's completely obsessed with this meanwhile his friend is getting kind of increasingly worried about him. Um and decides to follow him I'm gonna leave it there with the synopsis because I don't want to give any more away than that. Um.

46:51.62
Brian Penn
O m.

46:59.36
Brian Penn
The. Yeah I know I know yeah I liked it I think it's very good. It's it's very dark. It's visually very arresting I I think Rachel the friend.

47:11.40
ukfilmreview
But what do you think of this one part.

47:18.30
ukfilmreview
Um.

47:23.56
Brian Penn
We think might be the partner but possibly the friend. Yeah yeah, okay, we'll stick with friend you see I think the way way Rachel was reacting is she kind of represents us the audience because it kind of instills a sense of foreboding the whole the whole sort of setup I mean.

47:23.93
ukfilmreview
It says friend on the synoptras on Imdb so I'm going with that.

47:35.28
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

47:43.67
Brian Penn
It's beautifully put together and you know she is sort of she sort of saying what are you nut so you raving nuts you mad doing doing this because it kind of sit scares her it scares her but he he feels the need to immerse himself in. Celstic Mythology. That's this thing and it as it progresses you you feel that sense of forbodium and that fear for him and it it does feel quite quite claustrophobic the more you you kind of get into the story but it's very well done and it leaves a market. It leaves a kind of a. Marking you afterwards because of the imagery and I find that quite quite arresting and it does leave as I say it leaves a mark on you but it's very good. It's very good, but it's very dark as well though not just in the terms of the light in being quite dark but a very dark story. And lots of sort of celtic crossing sort of emerging as we go Along. So But yeah, um, it's It's very good. It's very good I'm very impressed.

48:44.52
ukfilmreview
Shooting.

48:49.37
ukfilmreview
Yeah I picked out a few things that I really enjoyed about the film. Um, which first of us the chemistry between the the couple or the friends I Thought that was really good I enjoyed you talking earlier about this about whether or not you believed it and I believed I believed them? Um I thought they their performance is really good.

48:57.20
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

49:06.57
ukfilmreview
Love the locations I Always love these sort of locations. Um, when you've got the the landscape forming part of the story. You know it's like this isolation I So a men reminding me of you know during but during the festival We we watched I think it was called Brother Troll or something like that. Yeah.

49:08.35
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:20.72
Brian Penn
Yeah, the one that was based in the feroh islands. Yeah, yeah, it is a bit like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:26.28
ukfilmreview
Yeah, a bit a bit like that just in terms of them being cut off from everyone else because you don't get that really a lot in society anymore in terms of like that in the in the mainstream. So when we see these films set in these places I think it really adds a good depth to the story. It really helps it? Um, love that and then.

49:34.26
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Definitely yeah.

49:45.70
ukfilmreview
The the last thing was the music I liked the music where it was a bit more fantasy and ethere or like it kind of had a weird vibe I wasn't so sure about when this like electronic dance track comes in. There's a bit where the the music pumps him with the when he's in the waters up and I was like I'm not sure if that worked for me but I like the.

49:56.65
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:03.72
ukfilmreview
The other music that was being used I dont know is interesting shift.

50:06.87
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, ah and you do wonder whether that was meant to signpost something significant in the story where whether the incident incidental music changes but I'm not entirely sure. But yeah, it did seem seem to stick out more than it should or maybe it was meant so you see I often take that as a kind of a.

50:10.26
ukfilmreview
M.

50:23.96
Brian Penn
Something significant but it might not be Maybe it's a kind of a double Glos Perhaps see I overthink things all the time unit know. Yeah, that's what we do. That's what you over talk it? Yeah, it's got be done doesn't it really.

50:30.43
ukfilmreview
Buss what we're here for bro. We're here to overthink all this aren't we and over talk it. We over talk everything? Um, but yeah, thank you to Elizabeth Mcnally for um, sending that to me. She's in the film as she plays. The space viona who is the sort mystic that he meets. Yeah so she was the only got in touch with us to review the film and um, yeah, I'm very glad she did because enjoyed it a lot so that's iba I'm not sure if you can see it anywhere um trying to look at our link was it public or not.

50:47.25
Brian Penn
Ah, ah she done right? Okay, yeah.

51:00.71
Brian Penn
But.

51:04.60
ukfilmreview
I don't know it's on vim vimeo but I don't know if his's password but took dude. It's not. It's up a year ago now so you should out. Yeah vimeo.com search for iass which is IMB a s I'm probably saying that wrong. But um, that's online for you to watch and enjoy so that's that one.

51:07.67
Brian Penn
I Don't think it is no yeah.

51:23.28
ukfilmreview
The second short film that we watched and are now reviewing was called allow tier which is that how you'd pronounce that or or tear now to l a UTIR um this was um also very good different. Um, and.

51:26.47
Brian Penn
La Lord said laer boser. Yeah yeah.

51:43.13
ukfilmreview
In the opening credit. So this isn't really like a spoiler but you realize that Laoutie is an anagram of ritual and did you miss that? did you visit? Yeah yeah, so the letters all kind of come across and I was like oh um, so yeah, and it's um.

51:50.55
Brian Penn
You know what? I never I never spoiled that. Ah I neverpied that Well yeah, why I can.

52:01.46
ukfilmreview
There is this. It's kind of set I Guess again in a fantasy slash fairy tale kind of world and where you've got this community who are playedgu by a terror. Um, that comes and takes them people that are sinful comes and.

52:05.71
Brian Penn
Okay, yeah, yeah.

52:20.26
ukfilmreview
Very violently rips them out of society I guess um because no one in this society in this community has proven themselves to be innocent enough for this demon to go away but there could be these 2 girls who may be the answer who are going to journey I think to the.

52:20.80
Brian Penn
There.

52:28.86
Brian Penn
Oh.

52:39.63
ukfilmreview
Um, to a place where they can stop this demon and they go through the landscape. It's very sort of tranquil and Serene at times it feels a bit like fairtel. But then it gets increasingly um worrying I guess and troubling.

52:41.52
Brian Penn
A yeah yeah.

52:54.75
Brian Penn
Yeah I know it is like that isn't it. Yeah I liked it off. It was very good again a bit like in bass it creates a great atmosphere but very kind of claustrophobic very foreboding to me. Um.

52:57.35
ukfilmreview
What do you think of this one Brian.

53:10.27
Brian Penn
Anything set in a Forest or a wood ah is quite intimidating anyway is that sense of desert. But yeah, but is that but you look at it through the prisma of film and cv bad things always seem to happen in a Forest or in a wood because there's that sense of isolation.

53:14.47
ukfilmreview
This terrified is the.

53:30.11
Brian Penn
Of being alone or they're not alone. There's a 2 of them there but because it's it's it's outdoors. It's in ah in ah, a Forest or a wood. However, you want want to look at it. But that is scary in itself that is intimidating by itself is that sense of being alone and when you. Look at the way the ah the intro sets the story up that the demon has to feed off cut. You know the the demon feeds off something something or someone that's pure and that's what gets rid of the demon and you know something's going to happen and you you get increasingly concerned when you think oh some.

54:05.72
ukfilmreview
Persists.

54:08.52
Brian Penn
Bad's gonna happen in a minute it is is and they kind of keep on walking and 1 of them says now it's time and then you tense up because you kind you know and you kind of get ready for it. You know? um, but it's very good. You know it is very well done and it is.

54:18.13
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

54:26.22
Brian Penn
Ah, would you call it horror Would you call it does it fit in a horror genre. Do you think give? yeah.

54:27.55
ukfilmreview
I think it does. It's not labeled as such but I I would because that's the first thing that comes to my mind when I think about the film and you I think think about the themes and the way in which they're presenting this story I mean it's got a very big fantasy element to it as well.

54:43.45
Brian Penn
Yeah.

54:46.10
ukfilmreview
But I would say it's got horror elements and a horror vibe to it. Yeah I think but not in a way that's going to be very offputting. It's not trying to upset you in any way It's more just important for the for the story to unfold in I think.

54:51.34
Brian Penn
No, no it. No it. Yeah it Gri is gripping it. It say it takes you long. It's very similar to Iba in a way I think Iba has elements of horror about it as Well. There's nothing wrong with that. But but it makes. It makes the um, the narrative even more gripping in a way the story they're trying to tell is taking you along on a it's not fear, but it's anticipation isn't it I think that's the essence of Horror is anticipating what's coming next and they both do that. They both do that in their own way. But it. It's a slightly different approach to to storytelling but you very good. You know, very impressed that they've managed to tell a coherent story in a very short space at time which is always the test that we we give it does it does it sell ah a story that's relatively end to end and it makes sense and it's complete enough. To be to be a story by itself and it is so yeah, impressive. Yeah.

55:51.72
ukfilmreview
And so different as ah I thought it was quite a different story to have told I liked it. Um a lot I'm Martin Hardwick who's the co-director with Georgia Conon who conon wrote the film he got in touch and Martin Hary got in touch with me about reviewing it.

56:02.20
Brian Penn
E.

56:06.96
ukfilmreview
Um, the film itself is actually available I believe on Amazon prime so quite easy for people to watch if it's still there sometimes I say these things and then it's gone. Um, but it yeah much like our our ah nostalgia pick this month. Um, but yet. But yeah lauti should still be on Amazon prime if you were.

56:13.41
Brian Penn
Ah, um, it's always a way isn't it. Yeah.

56:26.40
ukfilmreview
Want to watch it is again, not long. It's any seven twenty minutes I think so it's you got plenty of time to watch it. Um, so yeah, that's that we are now going to move on to our nostalwager pick now I picked this film for 2 reasons 1

56:28.82
Brian Penn
And I doesn't take up you saw too much use i' all. Yeah.

56:45.89
ukfilmreview
A good friend of mine. Always recommended it to me kept saying it was really good and I watched it years ago and I just didn't like it me and my wife both watched it I thought I didn't like it didn't get it did not get all the buzz. A lot of people had said they loved it. The second reason I picked it was because it was emphasis on the was.

56:46.48
Brian Penn
A.

56:55.19
Brian Penn
Yeah.

57:01.95
ukfilmreview
On um Bbc I player which was part of the reason of this podcast was to give you films that you guys could listen watch. Um, it has now disappeared from I play unfortunately, but luckily I had a Dvd copy of it in my garage because that's where I keep my Dvds now.

57:04.66
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yeah.

57:15.17
Brian Penn
Fair enough? Yeah I did yeah because I mean when we spoke about it on the previous podcast I'd never seen it I didn't see it when it came out and I thought well I really want to see this now and when I realized it wasn't on a eyeplayer anymore and I saw it was on Amazon prime. So I thought.

57:17.58
ukfilmreview
And um I think Brian you went to the trouble of renting it.

57:35.13
Brian Penn
Why not what the hell let's let's have a look at it. Let's let's let's test this metal. Let's see how good it is or not you know? yeah.

57:39.21
ukfilmreview
There we go and I am willing to throw my hands up and say I was wrong. This is a good film I very much enjoyed it on a second watch I don't know what happened the first time I think maybe I wasn't expecting something quite as bleak as it is.

57:48.11
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yeah.

57:56.10
ukfilmreview
Um, but actually this now doesn't look so bleak in the world that we live in now this feels very much like I could look out my window and see this now. Um.

58:00.30
Brian Penn
Well yeah, know Yeah, but basically it isn't it strange as society moves on and in the light of experience it. It doesn't seem quite as frightening as it once was but we're learning to live with various challenges that confronts us.

58:18.73
ukfilmreview
It's weird as well seeing films that you know this was released in 2006 and they are showing a version of the Uk in 2027 so almost yeah or over 20 years in the future but us now being 2023

58:21.69
Brian Penn
E.

58:33.42
Brian Penn
I.

58:35.92
ukfilmreview
It's strange seeing these visions of dystopia that are yeah so close to where we are now in our lives that you know how much that I don't know whether they do affect you. Um, because.

58:51.39
ukfilmreview
All right? Yeah, maybe this isn't what the U K looks like but there are places in the world that still are going through incredible incredibly tough times and what what's being a showcase because the idea of the film is um that the the whole world has somehow become infertile and babies just aren't happening. They just suddenly stop happening and yeah.

58:53.88
Brian Penn
And yeah.

59:04.59
Brian Penn
M.

59:11.00
ukfilmreview
Like the the film starts with the world's youngest person kind of being killed in a mob and he's not yeah, he's not that old. He's 18 Um, but there's no 1 younger than him and yeah, so then you've got Clive Owen who's

59:13.93
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, that's right, the racing now now.

59:28.18
ukfilmreview
Kind of just trying to get by in life. But we realize that he's linked to an activist played by Julianne Moore who needs his help because someone that they've because she's part of this activist group they have found someone who has become pregnant and is quite late in the term. So.

59:31.89
Brian Penn
M.

59:45.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

59:47.22
ukfilmreview
Is imminently going to give birth so they want to try and get her to safety away from the government who seems to be very corrupt and evil but can we trust this group because why is juliamo gay and Clive Owen involved and essentially that film is him um, getting involved I think that's. Ah, terrible synopsis. But as the best I can do without giving away too much of the plot.

01:00:05.43
Brian Penn
Nice. It's good at yeah, no, it's good and that's that's pretty a pretty good sum solution as well as far as I can see I like you I really enjoyed it I mean I this is the first time I've actually seen the film and I yeah I was very impressed by it. It's. In a way it plugs into our very deep spheres because if we think of a cataclysmic event. It might be a pandemic or a virus something that scientistss can deal with but in children and men women are becoming firstile. The human race is no longer able to reproduce and is slowly dying out and that is that is scary. Um, but as you say I think in light of what's happened since then um, where we've had this pandemic. We've we've had covid 19 seen in some ways it takes the urger feet a bit but it's stills still powerful. It's still very ah affecting I think. It might have affected me a lot more if I seen it when it first came out ah but what I did think was very clever about the film though was that they would take landmarks in London like fleet street where the bomb went off that was in fluet street and they also feature region street but it. You can see it's it's for street or it's reach street but they've kind of toned it down to an extent where there is a sense of anarchy here because you know the human race is slowly dying out and they have this issue with with immigration and there's.

01:01:39.50
Brian Penn
It's throwing all kinds of ideas that you all kinds of sub notions and concepts. Yeah, the only thing I find I found slightly irritating and it's nothing to do with the film as such, but the story doesn't really explain in any sort of detail. Why it happened in the first place because. You know they they're trying that there is the human projects and they're they're researching into the cause of infitivity. But it doesn't seem to elaborate any further. Yeah.

01:02:08.43
ukfilmreview
See I Quite like that when I saw the bit. Um they were talking about some kind of panel that someone had been on and they started saying Oh yeah, they're trying to explain what happened and there was all the usual theories which was.

01:02:13.85
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:22.62
ukfilmreview
All different things like gamma rays and I don't know Cama else they listed but it was like about 5 or 6 different things that it that could have caused it and what I liked about that was having' just gone through obviously covered in the pandemic was you had all these people trying to spout theories as to what was really going on.

01:02:39.13
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:40.85
ukfilmreview
And how all of that confusion and all of that mistrust with what people are saying and what scientists might say I think that works. Yeah, and yeah, this predating that by so much was was really powerful. Um I think a film like this as well is easier to watch.

01:02:50.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:00.22
ukfilmreview
Then something that's going to deal with say like a virus or something because it's just maybe a little bit too close to home. But because so many of the themes are so recurring and and what we've we've gone through that. Yeah I don't know maybe I just found it more powerful this time I Love the well there's there's a few bits I Really love. But.

01:03:05.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:14.42
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:19.82
ukfilmreview
First off, there was a bit of graffiti on one of the walls which said last one left remember to turn off the light or something like that I thought oh that is genius um, and then there's another scene where they're in the car and they get roadblocked by the by this group and then the car then has to reverse and this the groups are attacking them.

01:03:23.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that I.

01:03:36.95
Brian Penn
Um.

01:03:38.54
ukfilmreview
And the whole scene just doesn't quit the camera carries and go and so many things happen in that scene I won't say kind of what happens. But oh it was just magnificent. Ah amazing bit of filmmaking.

01:03:39.88
Brian Penn
Yeah, and know that yeah that yeah it was. It was very good. It was very well well sort of well planned Well Full. So and very brilliantly constructs with you know and it. Kind of enters at a point in the film where where it kind of they kind of think right? We need to pick up the place a little bit here now we need to put something and that's going to give the viewer a bit of a Jolt and I think that's what that particular scene does. But yeah I was very impressed with it and as I say um. It's a Pd James novel as well isn't It Peterie James used to write all the mystery thrillers. You know she? yeah.

01:04:24.50
ukfilmreview
I didn't even know that as well until I saw it this time and because my mom reads a lot of Pd James and I was so oh I did I didn't know that at all and um, but I'd I'd be interested to see what the book is like to be honest.

01:04:29.31
Brian Penn
Like but yeah, well that was got to be my next point really because now I really want to read the book. You know I mean almost always always you've got to be disappointed if if you I always think that.

01:04:38.96
ukfilmreview
E.

01:04:48.62
Brian Penn
You should either read the book or see the film never never see both because you'll probably be disappointed. But umm, really ah, really want to read the book. Um on which this film was based I mean for pie James it was really left the center for it. She's done something completely different to what she normally did and this is from the writer who created Adam Dlelesh and you. Couldn't get more different really could it. but yeah I but I was impressed with it and a nice cameo by Michael Caine as well. So boop? Yeah Jasper I'm still trying to get used to Michael Kaine with really long hair past his shoulders. But you know.

01:05:16.73
ukfilmreview
Yeah, he plays a really cool character. Actually there. Um I know I don't think it worked for him If for Mon is it was a bit distracting for me.

01:05:28.97
Brian Penn
Wasn't yeah it wasn't a good look for him was it really? But yeah I mean I'd recommend it. Definitely recommend it. It's I think you you said it alongside the pandemic. You see you keep on think the template you have in the mind your own mind is a pandemic but to me. So watch a film like this is a more of a nightmare scenario than the pandemic because there is a way of fighting the pandemic you know and that's why I kind of when I was watching it I had that kind of Russia concern think why they're not offering me any explanation as to why this has happened you know and. Um, but as you say though it could well be that kind of gives it more of an edge because there are no easy answers there that it does give rise to conspiracy theories which maybe is probably what makes that society to descend in some more chaos because nobody knows why you know. People know what what? the what the yeah, the outcome. What the fallout is and what the effects are but not what the cause is so maybe that's what does give it a edge but you know, um I'm into knowing all about this sort of stuff Chris you know wow what did happen you know, but lose you once and more I guess. That's what a good film should do.

01:06:42.26
ukfilmreview
Absolutely and a good film. It is I will hand up hold my hands up I will admit defeat I was wrong and that's what's great about this section of the podcast because it's given me a chance to revisit some films have a reason to revisit some of these films and.

01:06:52.97
Brian Penn
M. Yeah, yeah, the friendly. Yeah.

01:07:01.80
ukfilmreview
Yeah, children are men albeit very very bleak but also very very good and that was excellent. So I'm going to pick our nostaltropic for next month now because I think we need something funnier lighter ah because we've we've been through a lot.

01:07:04.55
Brian Penn
Yes, absolutely. Oh drum roll. Hey yeah.

01:07:21.26
ukfilmreview
Um, I'm going to go with 1988 Tom Hanks film see if you can guess what it is not yeah yet 9 96 yep um

01:07:30.80
Brian Penn
Oh I see Ah um, oh plan here? Yeah um, I'm not I'm not gonna look it up like could I could Google Glip I'm not going to. Um.

01:07:35.75
ukfilmreview
And see if I I mean so I'm giving you so far just the year. Um, yeah, direct directed by Penny Marshall not sure if that helps.

01:07:45.26
Brian Penn
Ah, Darris but is he been in a film by Dar by punny marshwell obviously he has um oh no i'm.

01:07:51.86
ukfilmreview
Obviously yeah, let's yeah and it's ah also stars Elizabeth Perkins

01:07:59.34
Brian Penn
Is it big. Ah big. Yeah yeah.

01:08:00.13
ukfilmreview
It is big. Oh you got that pretty quick I thought I was going to have to give you loads all. Um, it's currently on Disney plus so guys and girls and everyone else anyone listening this is currently on Disney plus it may not be by the time we get there. And I don't think I have a Dvd copy of big. So I'll have to rent it if it falls off. Um, but I'm hoping that they'll keep it on because I haven't seen this probably since I was a kid I don't think so um, my brother used to love watching this film and I wasn't.

01:08:18.41
Brian Penn
Ah.

01:08:31.20
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:08:35.16
ukfilmreview
Always into it so I'll be interested to see how I feel about it now as a 35 year old so I will I will let you know in the next episode.

01:08:40.37
Brian Penn
Yeah I yeah I mean I I haven't seen the film since it came out so it will it will be like seeing the film for the first time for me I mean um, you know when when you look you and I were film buffs aren't we we see literally. Hundreds of films and you kind of you hear a film site and you think oh yeah, I've seen that but you know if it's that long ago she's seen it for me. It'll be like seeing it seeing it first time you know.

01:09:09.23
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, hundred percent to be honest now I have this so films I've seen ages ago I can't remember films I've seen very recently I forget very quickly. It's the films in the middle that are kind of stuck with me the films that I maybe watched in my sort of late.

01:09:17.74
Brian Penn
Um.

01:09:24.91
Brian Penn
My.

01:09:25.69
ukfilmreview
Teens 20 s where I'm like I can remember those all right? But yeah, and like yeah, what do we review today. The mother, what's that about guy remember you know that's not true I could still remember the world but it's but it is true like I find that your your brain is like this kind of bucket that can hold that stuff but new stuff just drops out.

01:09:33.12
Brian Penn
Yeah, ah yeah, no know you mean? yeah.

01:09:41.31
Brian Penn
That Yeah yeah, oh yeah, have you Dreamt So have you drum some but about him lately.

01:09:44.59
ukfilmreview
And old stuff seems to be leaking from the bottom I don't know that's the best metaphor I can come up with but um, we're going to review big because we love a bit Tom Hanks anyway he's an absolute um legend but also haven't I want to? no um.

01:10:00.61
Brian Penn
No, no then more dreams. Ah.

01:10:04.32
ukfilmreview
He does he does pop up sometimes but he's always quite Ah, he's quite nice but then in that one dream where he was trying to um, get me involved in some kind of scheme I've lost a bit of trust. Maybe that's why I've picked this subliminally I've picked this? Yeah, what's what's the.

01:10:17.59
Brian Penn
As it. Yeah, he's ruined it for you as know he's just ruined it now. Yeah, ah yeah now I look forward to saying that as I say I've not seen it since it came out So um.

01:10:22.52
ukfilmreview
Big idea. Hanks hey come on. That's the best I could do with that.

01:10:30.70
ukfilmreview
Yep, and you've got you got Disney plus have you just let you know listeners. We don't have any kind of affiliations with any of these platforms. That's why I kind of jump around quite a lot I have a bit of a distrust now of I player. So I'm not going to ah be recommending them for a while.

01:10:33.13
Brian Penn
I have yes no.

01:10:44.47
Brian Penn
Ah, and know it's sneaky that though isn't it I you know taking it off like that you know best lay plans Chris these things are sent to trius. Yeah.

01:10:47.71
ukfilmreview
How could they do that to me best they plans So that's your lot for this episode and it's what an episode Wow It's been huge. It's been bigger than Fast X To be honest, we've put more in here more stunts.

01:11:04.64
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I and I.

01:11:06.88
ukfilmreview
More special effects Brian's completely green screened. That's why you can't see him and we've been in your ears for over an hour and hour. So I think it's best that we that you all carry on with your days but thank you very much for listening. Um, it's been u k film club loved having you here hope to.

01:11:26.20
Brian Penn
That.

01:11:26.10
ukfilmreview
Yeah, well have you here next month um and stay stay good. Stay big is that nothing stay big. Stay big. It could have some connotations I don't want to hear about so ah yeah, um.

01:11:32.63
Brian Penn
Stay stay big. Yeah like that yeah that could be a new a new one? Yeah, like that us say you've said it now haven't you really? ah bye for now.

01:11:43.33
ukfilmreview
But yeah, until next time.