UK Film Club: 001

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ukfilmreview
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Brian Penn
Something weird happened in there because it said your file was is now uploading or it's now finishing or whatever it says when the recording finishes then what? what? what happened there.

00:06.46
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it was weird it just it came on and you just immediately kind of fell off and I was like oh okay, as worth.

00:17.52
Brian Penn
And I would it's typical if anyone would do that I'd be me wouldn't it. Let's be honest, Yeah, how how are you do this.

00:20.75
ukfilmreview
That's why I thought yeah I thought yeah is is is that enough already gosh Ah much better. Thank you? Yeah, um, it's been. It's been weird because they've had illnesses and illnesses and illnesses and then we had this little brief window where they were okay and thought oh this is going Well this is good and then out of nowhere.

00:35.48
Brian Penn
There.

00:40.00
ukfilmreview
I thought guys I feel sick come ah come on so 5 and one. So yeah, that age where they lick everything.

00:40.68
Brian Penn
How old are they? Yeah well yeah, that's right, they that was going to say they're exploring aren't they and discovering like I Well yeah, let's not go there shall we yeah.

00:51.81
ukfilmreview
The although I know some adults that still lick everything. So yeah.

01:00.41
Brian Penn
Um I had a terrible cold early on in the week you know if we had to try to have done this on Tuesday or Wednesday I probably couldn't have done it I had a really bad cold but it's it's probably my first buy cold in about a year, but it's thank god it's cleared up fairly quickly. But yeah.

01:14.22
ukfilmreview
You do sound a little bit bunged up. Actually your voice has got that quite yeah quite and like a nice ah country in Blues kind of feel to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19.66
Brian Penn
Oh really, oh want a cool I want to so I now add an an interesting dimension to it wont that that how not please this could open up a whole new career for me couldn't you never know hey.

01:26.75
ukfilmreview
Bash out the karaoke later on Mate because it does sound it sounds good. It sounds good. Absolutely absolutely well have you been there haven't been haven't spoke to you since last year and I think.

01:39.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, no, not all good. All good, busy and work My my department's been dismembered. It's been broken into three but we're all still all right now. Um I I used to work in what was called Bays business ah business energy.

01:46.88
ukfilmreview
Gosh gosh.

01:56.38
Brian Penn
And industrial strategy. We're now just called db well we're called 3 different departments now you know, no no, one's lost in it and no jobs have been lost. It's just that we're we're in 3 different pieces now. So everyone's running around trying to work out how how we operate now because we've merged with another department called the department for international trade. So.

02:04.91
ukfilmreview
I.

02:15.49
Brian Penn
Um, don't don't ask me tweeten to go into detail because like I don't explain it Well it depends what you mean buy a property on doesn't it really? I'm what I work in policy which covers the multitude of sins and in the civil service Really we develop.

02:15.76
ukfilmreview
Sounds very serious Brian it sounds very serious and you know like a proper job if you got proper job is on your 10 be and.

02:33.30
Brian Penn
We Develop policy What it means is that we we make laws. Ultimately, that's what we do, you know in government central government you either work on the on the policy side formulating policy developing laws or you work on the operational side service Delivery. So I'm on the policy side at the moment and I don't Know. Um, how aware you are of these things but there's an economic crime bill going through parliament at the moment which is designed to make ah companies more transparent in the way they trade and do business and that it's less. We're trying to make it less easy for criminals to to use.

03:11.70
Brian Penn
Limsey Company structure as as ah as a cover So we we introduced legislation last year to force not just Russian Oligarchs but anyone who's been investing it in foreign regimes that that are.

03:14.71
ukfilmreview
Oh wow.

03:30.52
Brian Penn
Dangerous shall we say so um, have to declare property they own over here. So when Russia invitedd the Ukraine people were jumping up and down and saying you know the lights of Roman of Ramovvich and others could own prop over and we know nothing about it because it's all through a trust. So it's about transparency and making people more accountable, but that's the area that I'm work in. Are you still a white I usedton.

03:53.20
ukfilmreview
I feel I hope I hope you already have the rights to that story right? because you're gonna be yeah I can already see this as a film right? This works you know you're you're going after the russians money they're gonna come after Brian you know they're gonna be chasing you in the street. Ma.

04:00.99
Brian Penn
Oh Wow. Well yeah I Guess so but you know it's It's a very interesting area to work in and I wouldn't overplay my role in it really to be honest because I I sort of work On. Ah, special projects you might say um it but you know it's um, it's It's like a kind of roving brief. So Whatever they put in front of market on with it but a lot of it is to is paperwork really or virtual paperwork. So.

04:20.66
ukfilmreview
Of course you do. Of course you do.

04:38.41
ukfilmreview
So well, hey go.

04:40.12
Brian Penn
Yeah, so quite busying work. But yeah, um, I'm all good apart from that apart from the cold and yeah, all good.

04:47.60
ukfilmreview
Fantastic. Well thank you for joining me on what is a brand new chapter in the Uk Film review Story which I know you've been a big character already so far. Um, and for those who are listening This is episode.

04:55.63
Brian Penn
Well hope. So.

05:04.63
ukfilmreview
1 of a brand new show part of the Uk film review podcast we're calling for now Uk Film Club and we've been kind of toying with this idea for a while I spoke to Brian Ratz last year and the idea was to have a podcast that was kind of like a book club.

05:18.37
Brian Penn
Um.

05:23.32
ukfilmreview
Where you had maybe like set reading whereas we've got set viewing that we would have like films that we want to watch or that we're going to watch but what we want is actually for our listeners to pitch in you know, send in your voice notes and reviews of the films that we're covering and the films that we're going to cover.

05:26.39
Brian Penn
Over with.

05:42.81
ukfilmreview
Because everything's better when we share. We know this and it's better connected that someone's slogan I'm going to get in trouble for using that. But um, yeah, and also it gives us a chance to do what you came from review does at its very best which is cover everything like what we want to do is cover.

05:46.28
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah.

06:01.85
ukfilmreview
Cinema releases which Brian is going to be very much the the lead on that and some streaming and also some indian short films which we are always championing always on the lookout for it for good ones. So in this episode. Um, we've got. And absolute schmorgas board if I'm honest, there is ah I is right? Um, schmorgasord I said it's slower than um, this is great because Brian has seen a whole bunch of theatrical releases and we're going to tap into those first.

06:20.15
Brian Penn
Well, that's a good word So there again say again. Yeah.

06:39.22
ukfilmreview
Um, but coming up later on as well. We're also going to be looking at the big streaming release everything everywhere all at once which is very timely because the oscars at time of recording this are just around the corner and I know it's been doing very well in a lot of the award shows. We're also going to be doing a couple of. Ah, in the films one is called pavvo nocturnus and the other one is called love and we're going to be finishing up with what I'm currently holding the nostalgia hit or this nowja pick. Um, won't tell out any people what it is because I think you should listen in to get to the end to see which classic film me and Brian are going to review. Um, as long as I haven't put in the description of this episode and you're seeing it. Um, but before yeah I must make a note of that don't make a note with that. Um, but before we get.

07:15.72
Brian Penn
Oh yeah, yeah.

07:25.58
Brian Penn
Yeah, message to self. Yeah.

07:34.47
ukfilmreview
All of that we're gonna head to the big silver screen Brian where ah well I have the Whitney Houston film first. Are you happy to start there all right? So I want to dance with somebody go for it.

07:38.78
Brian Penn
Um, yes.

07:42.46
Brian Penn
Yeah, we can start there. Yeah, it's a film that's still running. It came out on boxing dy but it's still going strong and for a buyeric I think it's pretty much doned the jaw. There are no great revelations. There. It tells us things that we already know about Whitney but what it does do is showcase a unique talent and also brings to the for a very good accent noma right? Yeah naomi aey who was a wartime slow girl. She's a London girl doing a great. Whitney Houston now she she does sing occasionally but with the hits it's no miakki singing. But I think it's a really good entertaining. Fun movie to go out and watch now I suppose if you are a fan of Whitney that does help a lot. But even if you're not a fan. Um, it's it's worth watching. It's worth seeing just to get some depth of the talent that she had the person she was and the demons that she was always fighting which which are ah ah focused which I focus in on in in this film particularly this. Ah, constant fight that she had to be accepted as a black recording artist when she was always been accused of making pop records or making music for white people when it that wasn't the case at all because r and b is r and b is so and um.

09:17.35
Brian Penn
It's a very good movie Stanley Sushi's in it. He plays Clive Davis the um the record company boss who who signs Whitney um, so very good film. Some really good performances. There. We got Clark Peters playing John Houston who that's the the father of of Whitney and a very good film. Great hits to look back on if you grew up in the 80 s it will bring back some great memories for you but also tells a fairly balanced story of a fragile and damaged character who left this far too soon. Think that's the great sadness there is that you know they say the worst thing in life is wasted talent and it was and she was 48 when she died but here's an opportunity to be entertained by a great talent. Very good film. Very watchable.

10:07.64
ukfilmreview
Wow! Well I must say I'm a sucker for a musical biopic because big fan music. Yeah a musician song and I I find that there are always good stories because you're dealing with a character that is artistic and creative. So there always trouble.

10:22.70
Brian Penn
Course cell. Yeah.

10:26.88
ukfilmreview
And you've got. But yeah, obviously when you've got someone with complete household name and funnily enough on the poster for this. It says about it's from the writer of behemi rhapsody that these.

10:32.71
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

10:40.59
ukfilmreview
Household names people that I'd grow up. We are listen my parents help mentioned this person mentioned that person and suddenly we're getting these films about yeah the fictionalized films about these people or or an attempt to tell a story about this person that it's interesting and I think they obviously from a.

10:43.90
Brian Penn
E.

10:58.74
ukfilmreview
Um, production point of view. The film companies can kind of count on the fact that they're already tapping into a big base. Yeah know they know that people they're going to get bums on seats people are going to turn up. No one's going to sort of avoid this if they're already a fan of Houston's music so there is that side of it. But.

11:05.23
Brian Penn
Oh yeah.

11:12.26
Brian Penn
There there.

11:17.12
ukfilmreview
I do like about this year I've gone through um the Carson I've seen I also have've watched a trader and I've read your review and things and it's one of those films I know once it comes on like I will watch it. Um, just for the listeners. You might be wondering why Brian sees the the cinema films and I don't I've got two young kids and I find it very difficult to get out.

11:22.32
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

11:36.57
ukfilmreview
So um, that might change over the years who knows. But right now we me and Brian already have to reschedule our podcast because my kids are always sick. So um.

11:36.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, you know? Yeah yeah, ah.

11:47.98
ukfilmreview
Yeah Brian bless him gets to go out and go to the cinema and watch all these great films. But then I get to live vicariously through him. Yeah, he tells me what they're like and now that he's telling you as well. Um, but what would be great if anyone has seen or want to dance with somebody please do.

11:54.91
Brian Penn
Um, oh yeah, yeah.

12:03.77
ukfilmreview
Send us your um, your voice notes and things. Um, we'll put some instructions on our website on as to how to do that because we would like to add them into our actual show next time. Um, okay, good good. So that's I want to dance with somebody now.

12:21.49
Brian Penn
Um.

12:22.50
ukfilmreview
Next film I had on your list that you've seen. Um, till is that right.

12:26.36
Brian Penn
Ah, till yeah, ah one of my favorite films actually that's still our general release at the moment. This is a true story of Emmet till 14 year old boy who who was.

12:29.25
ukfilmreview
Wow.

12:40.78
Brian Penn
Lynched murdered in Mississippi in one fifty five because he winked at a white girl. It's an amazing story a terrifying indictment of the way human beings can treat each other just because the color of a person's skin is different. And what's frightening about this and impressive at the same time is that it actually happened you think this couldn't be possible surely but of all the the horrors that happened in the deep south ah of America this has got to be 1 of the most. Troubling episodes you are ever likely to see because you keep on checking yourself when you when you watch your filmist you think god this is true. This actually happened and the star movie is basically the the mother mamie played by Danielle Deweiler ah who was excellent. And the part and she is the star in the film essentially Jaling Hall's very good as Emmett's hill but it's it's Daniel Deadweer who steals the film from everyone because of the way mamie in real life reacted to the the murder of a son she insisted that. His body be viewed in an open coffin just so people could see what they'd done to us son and it led it led to ah a change of attitude really because um, they um, how can we put it. The.

14:13.34
Brian Penn
Mood at the time when there's laws in in in America were at a stage where they how can we put it? Um, ah sorry.

14:29.50
ukfilmreview
Pardons. Ah, we'll get Ill Now you've been around my kids too much know you right? you? Okay there.

14:29.71
Brian Penn
I.

14:41.49
Brian Penn
You can you edit that bit.

14:42.63
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, yeah, no worries. Good great take time they worries me.

14:46.44
Brian Penn
Yeah, oh I'm gonna make scare drink.

14:53.89
Brian Penn
Or I could do I could feel it You know when you get a sick when you throw and it spreads it gets worse right? where and where'd you want to start from.

14:59.81
ukfilmreview
Um, once it goes you can't do anything about it. Yeah, you have to just cut it out right? They worry um just talk about the the laws you you were nearly there. So just the the American Um, yes.

15:14.22
Brian Penn
Yeah, so so yeah the the beauty of till is that it tells a harrowing story of ah laws that in in America that precipitated the civil rights movement. And it just tells a wonderfully real story of what can happen to people just because their skin is a different color. It's a film that's been sadly overlooked I think ah it has won summer awardves and most films do win a awards in 1 description or another but it hasn't it's been bypass in the Oscars which I find surprising but it's it's an amazing film and this is great storyteing. So it's as to say it's one of the the best films that I've seen on release at the moment.

16:04.43
ukfilmreview
I mean I remember the the story of Emmett till when I was studying at Uni and it was um, shocking and obviously ah that period of american history is absolutely fraught with these horrific stories and times of. Discontent and um, we've seen quite a few films come from that period because obviously a lot of the popular figures around that time Martin Luther King who thought that you're going to have those films have all kind of emerged and with something like this. Yeah, you've got.

16:26.57
Brian Penn
In.

16:32.60
Brian Penn
That.

16:40.79
ukfilmreview
Ah, character that would have been unknown is not. You know, not like ah a celebrity character as such., You've got someone that is um and unknown I'm wondering if that's where it's kind of being missed Maybe because like I said yeah yeah I agree I've not really heard a massive amount of about this. Whereas you know some of the other films we're going to look At. There's been a lot of coverage about them. Um, yeah, and it's obviously tackling um or looking at racism that there does seem to be a lot to for people to maybe have to engage with here that maybe it's sort of.

17:01.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.

17:18.25
ukfilmreview
After the tumultuous few years that we're all having that It's what maybe it's been unfortunately timed you know with all that.

17:22.84
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it maybe there is a reluctance to confront the issues that they present in this film because I mean you look at George Floyd for example and and what followed followed that maybe it is uncomfortable to it's not an easy watch.

17:36.75
ukfilmreview
And.

17:42.19
Brian Penn
To say the least, but it's just it's it's scary, but it's it's riveting you just can't take your eyes off it and as I say Daniel Debweilo is amazing in the role incredible film. It really is but ah, we're quite right too. Um, it's nice to see that out. O.

17:53.19
ukfilmreview
Well, it's got a nominated for a bafta so you know we're trying.

18:01.48
Brian Penn
Our Academy ah as recognized. It's it's for you but a very good filmer.

18:04.46
ukfilmreview
Well, that's tilll so I do hope people seek out again. Yeah with anything Brian recommends goes on my automatic list of must watchtes. So I this sounds right on my street. It's exactly kind I fill my lu watching so I will be looking out for that one. Um, next up is an interest in one because it's been quite a bit about this so I'm intrigued to see what you think about babylon.

18:31.26
Brian Penn
Babylon right? Okay so Babylon is the story of the Hollywood Golden Era just as it's transitioning from silent movies into the tool keys. So it's ah it says it's ah, an area that's been raided. Frequently in the past by filmmakers this version stars brad pit as Jack Conrad an actor who fears that his career might be over because the tool keys are now with us and it also stars Margot Robbie as Nellie Leroy who's ah, a very. Smart fast talking kid that's trying to ah wheedle her way into into the filming industry and in many ways it's it's a handsome looking film. It's brilliant to watch but the length would put a lot of people off I'm sure it's 3 hours 9 minutes long and that. That is ah a hell of an ask really to to invest that amount of time to sit in 1 position to watch a film as to say it's a great looking film. You know it's very reminiscent of the classic hollywood era and so far that the the visuals are set pieces. You could say it's cecil b deille it's it's got that kind of. Appreciation is scale. So the visuals are fantastic, but it's very funny in places. It's hilarious. You know they're true within the film they're trying to shoot a scene in a film that um, they're trying to get. They're still getting used to the idea of.

20:04.14
Brian Penn
Sound as well as visuals and they keep on trying to take the same scene and they keep on getting it wrong and it is brilliant. It is so funny the way they're all reacting and Margot Robbie does anger frustration so well and it is brilliant but it's buried.

20:10.74
ukfilmreview
For fifth.

20:22.88
Brian Penn
You know at different points in the script. You think oh that's great I really enjoyed that bit but then it kind of seeps into self-indulgence slightly I think because of the the length of the film I mean they say that all films are 20 minutes too long I would say this film is an hour too long. You could quite easily chop an air off this and it would be a much better film for it. Having said that life. It is good because of the production values the way it looks because you've got margo Robbie you got Brad Pitt and it it does tell that story of rank debauchery in hollywood. That wasn't seen by the masses you know at the top you know the the the visible side of hollywood at the time was very wholesome and very clean cart but underneath it all that it was chaos. You know it was complete the ballry and that's what it. But that's what it it depicts very well. But. You know some places are very dark film as well. But very entertain if you can cope with the length of the film.

21:28.93
ukfilmreview
Yeah I always think you know any film that's pushing past or any like two and a half hours to be honest, be pushing past two. It's ah yeah, you got to have a reason this looks like the kind of film that has that cinematic feel to it like it needs to be seen in the cinematic it has that big screen appeal.

21:42.94
Brian Penn
Oh yeah, you've got to sit on a big screen. Definitely.

21:46.69
ukfilmreview
Yeah, that that feels like that's there obviously'll see um daen Chazelle known for his big epic blockbusters like Lala land and stuff that I think this feels very much in the same ballpark that you you kind of like go see at cinema it's a celebration of cinema and. You've got to I think invest in it I guess but with that kind of cast and the spectacle at least you get your money's worth from a cinema ticket. You know I think that that's worthwhile. Um, but yeah babylon I I will probably watch it.

22:13.85
Brian Penn
Oh yeah, no question.

22:21.20
Brian Penn
I don't.

22:22.76
ukfilmreview
But in my in my typical routine of a 3 hour film I will watch it in about 8 parts say.

22:26.76
Brian Penn
Yeah, probably yeah, kind of makes sense. Also if you're a jazz fan. There's a great soundtrack on the film as well. Which is really sort of jazz based. But it's brilliant brilliant soundtrack. So yeah, but I think what will probably happen is that people will wait for it to go online and they'll see it then and as you say.

22:35.26
ukfilmreview
Um, ah.

22:45.31
Brian Penn
Break it into parts. You know deerro said recently when he was being in when Robert de niro was being interviewed about the irishman which was 3 hours 27 minutes so he was asked. You know are you happy for people to see it in separate parts because it it aired on Netflix he said yeah, it's okay.

23:00.77
ukfilmreview
Please.

23:02.49
Brian Penn
And people were shot that even deerro said it's okay if you want to watch it in bits. So if deerro says it's okay Chris it's okay.

23:08.41
ukfilmreview
Well, we've been doing it since we have Vhs I don't know why people think that we didn't do it before and like it's not Netflix that invented the pause button and I think also there's there is a yeah, a good thing about watching a film or all in 1 go because you'd never.

23:15.68
Brian Penn
Oh not cook song Nine nine

23:28.24
ukfilmreview
Break your yeah momentum with it. But there are other films that often benefit from that little break, you know sometimes it's like okay, right? yeah and then you can come back in especially if you're looking at these kind of like um, three four hour films I when I watch the extended lord of the rings. We used to have them on Dvd.

23:34.35
Brian Penn
Yeah.

23:42.54
Brian Penn
O.

23:47.49
ukfilmreview
Or a blue rate and they were on separate discs. Anyway, you had to they couldn't fit it all on 1 disc so you had to like get up and change it over and it's just just was what it was it't um, some cinemas they still have intervals and they they still have like breakkes in the middle. So it's not I not unheard of I think people just get all.

23:48.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:00.23
Brian Penn
Yeah, that's right? yeah.

24:07.50
ukfilmreview
Ah, bit funny about it as if there's some kind of magic that happens if you endure 3 hours without somehow needing the toilet. It's like what.

24:13.46
Brian Penn
Yeah, but yeah, but I think also also though that you can make a film 3 hours long if you decide to sit down and watch it all the way through it make it 3 hours long by all means provided that you're doing something this is from the filmmaker's point of view. Do something meaningful with the extra time.

24:30.38
ukfilmreview
Um.

24:32.63
Brian Penn
Screen time and don't just let it slide into something. It's really self-indulgent thing. Oh this this is good I'll put this in because really, if an editor had sat down with the director they could have taken an hour off they could have kept the the full uncut version for late release. But I think that might have helped it stay on general release for longer.

24:49.87
ukfilmreview
Well going back to like the Whitney Houston 1 is it sometimes I feel sorry for historical biopics and with till as well because there probably is so much history and story that it want to put in because it gives context and it gives yeah.

24:52.18
Brian Penn
Um.

25:05.20
Brian Penn
O.

25:08.27
ukfilmreview
Information but as a piece of art you have to be able to tell that story in a way that's going to you because if you go back to the oldest form of storytelling which is just telling people. Yeah, then you're not Goingnna keep them around you. They're gonna wander off, they're going to walk off if you give it's too long if you don't keep it on point and I think that's.

25:16.20
Brian Penn
Um.

25:19.23
Brian Penn
Who Yeah coax. Yeah.

25:28.24
ukfilmreview
Yeah, like say the job of the editor. It needs to be done if you're saying that you could see they're cutting an hour from that film. Then yeah I think that's that's fair enough and like say it seems to be showing as as to the reaction to the film. So well. Well.

25:33.98
Brian Penn
There.

25:42.75
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

25:47.54
ukfilmreview
Ah, that's that's ah, that's babylon. So um, we're gonna head to 1 of the greatest directors of all time next Steven Spielberg who's latest film. The.

25:56.87
Brian Penn
Here.

26:01.52
ukfilmreview
Ah, you Pullmans is that I think that's still out that's still in in Cinema's moment.

26:04.48
Brian Penn
That yeah that that's still running the fiveos really should should be called the spillelbergs I mean it's the it's the story of Steven Spelberg's family when he was growing up. This is the ah typical family living in America in the Midwest. Ah, the father is a high-f flying technical whiz kid electrical executive who's dragging his family all over the country ah to further his own career and the the mother is a talented pianist but is. Is trapped in domesticity. She's there to keep the home raise the family and they have 3 daughters and a son who's obsessed with film by filmmaking I wonder whether who that is um, but it but it resonates it will resonate for a lot of people where.

26:50.30
ukfilmreview
This is.

26:57.92
Brian Penn
Where you have this dynamic between 2 very talented parents one has a career the other one doesn't because she's expected to be the mother to be the nurr and I think people obviously are going to relate to that and that was really the story of the spillbergs and it it kind of unlocks a secret. Ah, through his love of filmmaker. So it is pretty close to stevenpielberg's family and the way he grew up and the way his parents works as a unit if you like Michelle Williams plays Mitsy the mother she's been nominated for an Oscar and she's very good in it. Poor Dan I plays the father ah Judd Hirsch ah does a very brief term a 5 minute turn as uncle Boris and he's got an Oscar nomination for it. I still can't work quite work out. Harry's got that. But you know it's all about opinions isn't it. But um, not a typical spelberg film insofar that it's not. A popcorll movie. It's not like Jurassic Park or Indiana Jones it's not like that. So. It's a film that makes you that challenges you more and and a more in virtual level on a more emotional level. It becomes a different kind of Spielberg film but it is Spielberg and it works and it holds your attention so it does all the things. That you expect the spielberg films to do so very good film very watchable and at a more reasonable running length as well. I think this is 2 hours twenty I think on two thirty one I beg your pardon no two thirty one but

28:26.19
ukfilmreview
Two thirty on the I give you but but yeah, close enough I mean 10 minutes for for credits right? a.

28:34.53
Brian Penn
Ah I was guys got to say take off the credits. It probably is about two twenty but ah, a very good film. You know one thing you can say about stevenpielberg is that he tries something different with every film he makes and there are he's not afraid of experiment I mean this this is a semi-autobiographical sound. But. There are very few directors that are bold enough to try things that are different so you won't stay in his comfort zone and he is. He's confronting his own family story and there are some other uncomfortable home truths. There. Ah that come out as well. So he's brave on on his part to do that. But. Very very good film very watchable and a nice film to go out much.

29:16.45
ukfilmreview
Fantastic sounds great. Always gonna watch a spillberg you got to watch all the spill bugs. There's no way around it.

29:20.58
Brian Penn
Well, it's it's yeah, it's almost like a kind of an obligation when you become a film fan. You've got to watch the latest Spillbo movie. However, you however, it turns out whether you like it or not yeah Spillbo is that kind of director. You've got you've got a watch where he does.

29:26.19
ukfilmreview
The.

29:38.78
Brian Penn
You know? yeah he plays the daddy plays. But yeah, he's very good Seth Rogen's in it as well. Who plays the best friend Benny so again, very strong cast all work really wellke.

29:39.39
ukfilmreview
I'm also a big fan of Paul Dano and he plays a character in the film. So I'm very happy to watch him if.

29:56.80
Brian Penn
It's a nice fill. Very nice fill.

29:58.39
ukfilmreview
Here we go. Um, now if you haven't heard of this next film then I'm guessing you don't have the internet because it is everywhere and I'm glad it is because it stars 1 of my favorite actors of all time Brenda Fraser it is of course the whale.

30:12.21
Brian Penn
No yeah.

30:16.60
ukfilmreview
And I'm gutted I haven't seen this yet because it's been around for a while. It's also Darren Aronovsky who I love so tell me Brian tell me.

30:19.55
Brian Penn
Yeah, yes, it's I think you're in for a tree and everyone listening is in for a treat if they haven't seen this film yet stars Brendan Fraser in what you would call a career defining role is absolutely amazing. In this film. He's got the Oscar nomination for best actor and I I think he will win it I think the only other nominee that could challenge him really is bill naye for living. But I think he's he's nailed on to win the Oscar for best actor he plays Charlie who's an english chooseer who's morbidly obese. Ah, trapped in his apartment. He's carer Liz played by Honiao who's also been nominat night for an Oscar plays his carer who's fighting to keep him alive and as his health worses. He tries to repair his his relationship with East Daughter Eie who's played by Sadie think I think it's an amazing film. But it's amazing more for the performances than the film itself. What I think is surprising whilst the the performance of the actors as 1 universal a claim the film's got mixed reviews oddly enough I think if you look on rotten somemaos.

31:33.64
ukfilmreview
Um.

31:36.83
Brian Penn
It's got like 66% which is kind of like a middling sort of score which doesn't really match up with you know the acts in performances. You think how can that be and I think probably part of the problem here if there is a problem at all. Um, but being critics. We do take these things apart. Don't we um. It's based on a stage play and I think it really shows because the film itself barely ventures outside the room that e more or less inhabits and you think well that's what the character is because he's morbly obese. But I think it's not using all the options that film gives you because there are no. Flashbacks. There is a really interesting backstory there that it develops but they don't use that that option that they can use on film. So. It's obviously a stage plate but you know if you were being hypercritical. You could say that it it's simply filming the story on stage and pointing a camera at it. But that would be a minor quibble to most because it's it's a riveting film. You cannot take your eyes off it. The prosthetics are incredible really because obviously Brendan fraer Fraser hasn't put on. God forbid hasn't put on weight to play this role but the prosthetics are really convincing and it's ah there are the performances are stronger than the film itself I think because it is a stage plan. It kind of feels a bit rigid but I mean again, it's a minor point. It's a wonderful film to watch and by the way the well.

33:12.70
Brian Penn
Isn't a reference to him as a carrot so it's a reference to the well in Moby Dick which is integraed to the story. That's being sold here. But it's it's a brilliant film. The acting's amazing. I mean you you just that Characterrot's type of carro see it doesn't make you feel pissy for the character but you're rooting for it. And that's the secret of acting is to make you care and make you want a happy ending for him. It's lovely. It's beautiful. Film.

33:29.91
ukfilmreview
Um.

33:36.67
ukfilmreview
So well Brian thank you so much for rounding up those cinematic releases. Um, and I think yeah, what an amazing selection this time the year does tend to have some good releases because they're all in the run up to the to the oscars. So.

33:51.25
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

33:53.52
ukfilmreview
I'm not surprised that we've got some great films there. But yeah, very impressed by what I'm hearing and yeah, if you're listening and you want to share your thoughts on any of the films that Brian went through please do a heads our website you get from you credit k and there'll be a button somewhere I'll put a button somewhere.

34:10.37
Brian Penn
Pull upon it pull up on it.

34:13.30
ukfilmreview
Ah, but button. Um, and now we move to the streaming I might put in a funky little guitar there or something but you're not going to know that I would yeah I'm a a double little like in Wayne's world or something you know like that. Yeah.

34:19.19
Brian Penn
Right? do and I need something doesn't it. Yeah yeah, something know when it's coming in so people know when they listen when it's coming in. Yeah.

34:32.41
ukfilmreview
I'll put it in in posts. Don't worry. Um, but this film much like the whale has been everywhere and everywhere is even in the title. It's just I mean come on come on. Um I should write some of this down really but I don't um, everything everywhere all at once.

34:38.56
Brian Penn
No, that's a good link that is a good link. Really.

34:49.90
ukfilmreview
I Watch this based on a guy I work with it's like he said it's his favorite film and I'm always very much like if someone says it's their favorite film and it's a new release I'm like okay well it must be pretty good for you to have done that but um for me. Ah.

34:55.81
Brian Penn
You.

35:06.73
ukfilmreview
It was something I definitely wanted to watch because I'd heard great things I'd also heard it is a multiverse film which we've had a few of those in the last few years and it was apparently the the one to beat them all. We was this is the the multiverse film that's actually done it very very well so I was very intrigued to watch this and luckily it was on.

35:13.34
Brian Penn
There.

35:26.60
ukfilmreview
Amazon prime as I able to catch it. You see that too right bro.

35:30.40
Brian Penn
I've seen it? Yeah but I did what you did Chris I saw it in maybe 4 sections I I felt really on it can't be can I be frank can I be candid with you and I wasn't overly impressed with it. You know.

35:37.59
ukfilmreview
Go for it. Oh My goodness.

35:44.89
Brian Penn
I fire I find the story like I not I'm baffled I'm baffled by the storyline and I'm baffled that it's got an Oscar nomination that doesn't mean to say it doesn't have its points that it's not a well-made film if I was writing a review of it I'd give it 3 stars because it's very well made. The cinemaography is excellent. The visuals are great. Set pieces the the stunts you know all of that is all good. Say it be a 3 star film in that way but is it an Oscar winning film which is really for me the bottom line because it's got an Oscar nomination I I just I think I struggle with this type of storyline. You know you know the the idea that they're You've got this chinese family who run a laundette and suddenly Michelle Yoh's currents is being confronted by different versions of herself in a parallel universe and you're fighting an enemy of the multiverse and I think right? Okay, but you know it's like 1 minute they're arguing with Jamie Lee Curtis about their tax returns and the next minute they've all got fingers that look like hot dogs and ah I kind of just struggle. Um, and you know, ah, maybe it's me maybe it's me maybe it's the fact that I saw it in sections I don't know but it to me it was like a patchwork because it.

36:47.90
ukfilmreview
So.

37:00.95
Brian Penn
It felt a bit like a Jackie Chan film a bit like the matrix a bit like enter the dragon now filmmakers that's fine filmmakers borrow ideas from other films. That's so all well and good. But I I didn't see sense a coherent storyline and I get frustrated with films like that because. I like to see a clear story now. Maybe it's me maybe I'm not switched on enough to it. But in spite of all of that you have to accept I have to accept that it's highly rated. It's perform well at the box office people like it and your friend who said it's his favorite ever. Phil. Okay, fair enough, you know the people were spoken people like it. It's got that rating fair enough but I don't find it particularly accessible as entertainment. It feels more like a computer game to me but I accept I accept its its merits and then but people will like it.

37:55.11
ukfilmreview
I think 1 thing I would say and you've you've kind of mentioned it already that they're borrowing things from films like the matrix. The matrix actually is probably the best reference because first off, the main character is kind of like Neo in that she's like the only one that can save them and.

37:56.94
Brian Penn
You know, but but.

38:02.72
Brian Penn
Who.

38:12.16
Brian Penn
Um.

38:14.92
ukfilmreview
Also when I watched the matrix the very first time I really liked the matrix but it's one of those. It's one of those. It's one of those films that oh my god it it improves every time I watch it I find something else from that film and I think with this I've only seen this once but I think it.

38:17.31
Brian Penn
Oh yeah I did as well. Yeah I enjoyed it.

38:32.62
ukfilmreview
It's one of those films that needs to be watched multiple times I actually think yeah I don't want to assign you homework Brian but if I'm gonna have to do this. It says I think it's that it's the kind of film. Not I'm not saying because I'm I'm somewhere in between I I think I liked it more than you but I don't get.

38:33.73
Brian Penn
It could be Yeah, it could well be no, no noon you.

38:50.95
ukfilmreview
Quite why it's got 11 Oscar norms. Yeah I think it's really like wow.

38:53.26
Brian Penn
Yeah that's what um that yeah, that's what I don't understand because the ultimate benchmark for film excellence is the Oscars doesn't it. You know it's the baftoss and the golden globes and the critics choice awards. It's all of those but the 1 gold standard for filmmaking is the oscars you were an Oscar. You've got a license to work in America you've got a license to work in hollywood that's the ultimate benchmark for any filmmaker any a and you think really as this film got that number of Oscar nominations. Um I'm not sure I follow the logic and I do worry what as the same whilst this film has its merits. Um, I wonder whether the oscars are being dumbed down slightly you know, um, people listening can can feel free to disagree with me feel free to some conversation with me about it and maybe I do need to see it a second time. Maybe it is a slow burner but I don't see how it. It kind of fits into that bracket. It is just a good film. That's all it is you know.

39:55.50
ukfilmreview
There you go you heard it here first. Um I think yeah I I can see some strengths to it but I can also see yeah that there is an element of um averageness to certain bits I was I was dissimilar especially the first I'd say the first third of the film I was kind of like.

40:09.84
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

40:12.71
ukfilmreview
This is taking its time like this is really like it doesn't need to go through so much this because then what happens when it goes balmy and it all starts to go all over the place you are left in this kind of like what is going on that I think it needed to slow that bit down and speed the first bit up. Um, yeah.

40:21.63
Brian Penn
Um, well it. Yeah, it's it's a great title for the film. Everything everywhere all at once. Maybe they should add on to the end of that all over the place. It's it's kind of like that you know again look I'm the end of a day Chris it's all about opinions isn't it. You know, but.

40:36.27
ukfilmreview
A highhood.

40:46.25
Brian Penn
Do wonder when when a film gets this degree of a claim even if it doesn't win in at any oscars. It's got 11 nominations and that's that's quite an achievement for any film. Um I do sometimes think to myself. What do other people see that I can't see you know? um, but hey look. All credits them. You know total respects they they've they've created a film that people like and really, they're in the business to make films people want and that's exactly what they've done here.

41:16.80
ukfilmreview
There we go well be interesting to see when this comes out and in terms of how many oscars it picks up because sometimes they don't like because this I think this did really work the grammys or another showcase recently and sometimes it does. Not go their way like you have films that have got loads of noms and they come away with 1 or no oscars so be interesting, but um, yeah, that's our streaming film for this episode. We're gonna go now to our indie collection.

41:35.70
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

41:47.96
Brian Penn
Oh.

41:50.84
ukfilmreview
So we'll start with short film called pavo nocturnus directed and written by Brad case. Um I'm trying to bring up my notes for this film because I watched it a couple of weeks ago I don't want to make sure. Um you go first Brian on this one.

42:01.81
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah, again, a very a very short short film. Really, it's 10 minutes the thing. Ah but um.

42:15.65
Brian Penn
I mean it's big. It's it's very interesting. You know it's very good very well put together. Well-w writtentten. The the narration is performed by somebody with a fantastic voice. You know you're drawn to the you know acting a lot of actings is about using your voice properly and the as are ah voicing this part. <unk>s brilliant is excellent and he's relating ah a series of dreams that he keeps having about a woman and in some ways it feels a bit like an enhanced talking ah audio book. Um, but um, when it reaches the end it. I was surprised by the ending in this film. Actually it wasn't what I was expecting and so I don't know what I was expecting but it gently builds a story you know over that what is just a few minutes and kind of well I was I was surprised by the ending and and I think. If you can get ah an ending that surprises the viewer then it becomes all the more powerful but it's very haunting. It's gripping and it's it's very um, almost hypnotic in some ways. It's the voice again but I was very impressed with it. And but you you get you sense that there should be you want more and I think that's probably a good sign for a short film is that you want to hear more. But.

43:39.57
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think it's based on ah like a it's from a book that the actual filmmaker had written and yeah and what got because I sort of was troubled slightly by the film in the sense that some of the.

43:45.42
Brian Penn
Elucidation I think the series of short stories called elucidation. Yeah.

43:56.48
ukfilmreview
Um, Visuals were quite kind of banal. It was like him making coffee or whatever they kind of went on with a long time and I was like Okay, yeah, so you really are just being told to focus on the narration here like that's what you're you're meant to be doing and I was like would this be better as an audio book. Yeah, would that.

43:58.49
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

44:06.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, well I yeah.

44:14.28
ukfilmreview
Be more what this would have been suited towards and it wasn't until the actual reveal Once you start to realize what's going on here that you're like oh okay, yeah I should have been paying more attention I guess to to how to why this is important but it still I liked it and I thought that.

44:30.22
Brian Penn
Yeah.

44:32.81
ukfilmreview
There were bits that were were very good I like the way that the colors had kind of this weird mix of like being dreary but then like the reds would like pop and it would have like ah yeah, quite ah, an angry look to the to some of it. Um. Yeah, and there's a bit where he's like in the mirror and his face goes a weird like he kind of like goes crazy. Um, so there were some good visuals but I thought largely there wasn't a lot of that even in a 10 minute film as like there's not much remarkable from the visual side of things but the the story and the narration is great. So yeah, I'm just wondering whether it would have been better as a.

44:51.83
Brian Penn
Yeah.

45:01.24
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah I I think really I suppose what it boils down to it is that the visuals don't add much to the story. Do They really honestly apart from the final scenes and you think it's really got something here. You know the the actual story itself. The way it's being sold. You think.

45:08.40
ukfilmreview
And audio. But but.

45:24.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, be great if you could hear more of those short stories that this one is taken from but it doesn't necessarily need the visuals. Not really, but but it's very good. It's Interesting. It's different. But I think the visuals didn't really help the story as much as it should have done. Really.

45:42.89
ukfilmreview
There you go? Um, so that's pavil nocturnus I hope I'm saying that right? Um, if possible we will drop a link as to where you can watch the film. Um, but I think for both of these we were given private links so it could be that they're not actually out anywhere.

45:59.11
Brian Penn
M.

46:02.44
ukfilmreview
For some of our subsequent episodes. We're hoping to get more short and indie films that are actually available say like on Amazon prime or something because it'd be great for everyone to be able to watch them and then send us their thoughts. But for this first one this was just a couple of filmmakers that were already found at the website and they they got in touch saying that they were happy for their.

46:11.39
Brian Penn
Oh.

46:22.41
ukfilmreview
Films to be reviewed um because we do also understand as well sometimes indie filmmakers don't want us to review their films because you know we're gonna be honest and we're gonna put it out there to people and it might put people off watching I Guess um and I I don't like that opinion because I feel that actually yeah, what we do is to.

46:33.14
Brian Penn
M.

46:40.56
ukfilmreview
Shine The light on things even films that we don't like we're still going to explore them I think you make up your own mind really ah but it's um, we we don't want to hurt. People's feelings if we don't need to.

46:48.93
Brian Penn
But I think the thing is though Chris what what we're aiming to do is to to arouse enough curiosity for listeners to say right? Oh that sounds interesting I'll check it out I'll have look at it and that's that's really to me in essence is what reviewing is all about is to give people an idea. What? what? it's like and whether they want to investigate it further at the end of the day. It's an opinion you and I have opinions. It's as simple as that but this is just raising the profile of the films that we happen to review and whatever criticism we make ah of the films. It's always constructive and it's honest. And nothing is perfect. You know? Um, yeah.

47:31.22
ukfilmreview
Nothing is Perfect. You heard it here first. Um, we're gonna go do another short film. Um this one written and directed by saab dope and it's called Love. Um, and this one was an interesting one because it did have more of the feel of it. So. Short film that I would normally review for the site. Yeah, it had the I say like a limited budget. Um is not.. It's not a big production here. Neither was pavon octurnus which stands for night terrors by the way. Um, but with love yeah, it very much felt like okay yeah here we go This is like right in our wheelhouse. So We know these types of films. But I did.

47:50.83
Brian Penn
Um, yeah.

48:04.81
Brian Penn
Yeah, okay.

48:08.75
ukfilmreview
Like the story so you've got these two friends they're catching up after a long time and they're having some drinks but it's quite clear that one of the other friends. 1 of the friends is so angry with the other one. Um, there's a tension there even if the first guy can't really see it. Um and it turns out that.

48:28.80
ukfilmreview
1 of the guys is married and that is the cause of this tension I'm not going to go into much more about why because I think yeah if anyone does manage to see the film. It's nice. Good to not have that bit spoiled for you as to why? what's going on there. Um.

48:32.77
Brian Penn
The.

48:41.21
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

48:45.51
ukfilmreview
But it was an interesting film. It had that sort of classic storytelling know we've got 2 friends catching up simple location. They're not trying to do too much with the limited resources that they had um and then yeah yeah, what did you think about this one by.

48:53.93
Brian Penn
Yeah I actually quite enjoyed it I think it it was quite neat and self-contained. It's obvious I had a limited budget but I mean you can still tell a story with just 2 characters and it's.

49:11.27
ukfilmreview
Nip.

49:12.66
Brian Penn
Ah, course there is the third character that's so always offs screen and that's the the wife of the cool and that's how the 2 of them come together. That's what they begin to talk about I think that the story initially takes time to unfold a little bit I think it could have the first half of the story could have been a bit snappier but. Think it is good storyteing. Ah and it was quite enjoyable. All I would say about it is that um the um, the dialogue was partly in hindi I do apologizeise I forgot the language wrong I think it's Hindi isn' that is that it was spoken partly in hindi. Then they'd go into english and back in su hindi again. Um I found that difficult to keep up with because you're seeing a subty was coming up and then they're speaking in english then there speak you know that side of it I think it should have been one or the other they should have just been speaking in one language or the other I think that's.

49:59.57
ukfilmreview
Oh.

50:07.99
Brian Penn
Kind of stirred the pace of the story to me just a little bit but.

50:09.69
ukfilmreview
Yeah, well ah because sometimes you'll have it like because funny enough I was watching Shang Chi last night. My wife hasn't seen it yet so we were catching up on shang qi and um, they do that a lot like the film's going along and it'll be that they're talking in english and then maninal or chinese or whatever.

50:17.93
Brian Penn
Alright.

50:29.60
ukfilmreview
And it's like okay way that there' flitting between the two and I don't know if it's because maybe the characters find that what they're saying is better expressed in that language if you know I mean like maybe it's that because.

50:37.53
Brian Penn
Yeah, could be.

50:41.17
ukfilmreview
Also sometimes it happens when there's obviously different characters around but when there's just 2 characters. You'd you'd assume like ah so that we're talking right now in one language that that would be what they would do. But um yeah I hold my hands up I only know very very little german and french I can't really say what I would do if I knew a whole other language that um.

50:42.57
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

50:55.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it could well it could well be ah so that that was the that's the only kind of real downside for me. Otherwise it was a very good story very intricate.

50:59.30
ukfilmreview
Yeah, maybe that is just what very talented multilinguists. Do you know? um.

51:11.78
Brian Penn
Very well put together. That's a say the first half of that film could have been a little bit quicker but aside from that it was very good. It was well put together and um raises some some real issues in the way relationships develop and the dynamics between people that are very close to each other. So.

51:16.32
ukfilmreview
Ah.

51:29.58
Brian Penn
I enjoyed that I enjoyed the way it was put together name. It was yeah it was very good.

51:32.20
ukfilmreview
Excellent. So that's love um Sara Doke I say unlikely, you're gonna be able to find it on a streaming platform right now. We've not been told that it's ah it's anywhere. So um, to yeah, check it out if you can like do a Google and just see if if it's something that you want to watch. Um, so moving on to our final film of the episode. What of what has been a fantastic episode so far Brian well done. You've you've really brought your a game this time haven't you um, nothing you sir. Um.

51:58.14
Brian Penn
Ah, um, oh thank you? Oh thank you? Well done you as well. Yeah.

52:07.10
ukfilmreview
We are going to review the nostalgia pick which I chose for this episode. Um as it's one of my favorite films Goodwill hunting um, any reason to watch this film I just thought i' go of yeah, let's make this the first one because.

52:09.19
Brian Penn
There.

52:16.16
Brian Penn
Oh I love this film I love this film? Um, um, yeah going Karen off you.

52:25.20
ukfilmreview
Beautiful film I Just think it's a beautiful film and I think it stands up to the test of time. Yeah, you can still watch this now some of the characters because they're so flawed it's still is okay, the things that they say things that they do it sort of like like you're not meant to really agree with them and I think you know.

52:41.59
Brian Penn
There.

52:44.77
ukfilmreview
This is yeah me getting very dangerous territory. But I think it's potentially Robin Williams ' best performance. So I just think it's an incredible performance. You cannot take your eyes off him when he's when he's on screen.

52:49.66
Brian Penn
Well, he did get an Oscar for it. Didn't he he no and I know I think what What's really interesting about Robin Williams performance in this film is that he really reined it in you know? Yeah he said. Trade is a stand-up comic and the the tendency is is to exaggerate a persona but he really pulled this one in and it was very low-ke in some ways but it works even better in some ways I think it is his's film more than Matt Damon's film or that affle's film. It's he's film. He's as you say whenever he's on screen you're you're transfixed and that this just you just realize what a very good answer. He was and how tragic it is that hes his life ended in the way it did I think the film itself. Ah you chose such a good film here Chris you really did. It's It's a wonderful film. It doesn't feel and I've not watched it for a few years and it was like watching it for the first time in some weeks I might have it might be I don't know 10 years since I watched it but it still feels fresh. The the script is excellent. The acting spot. Um you and I love the. I see what I really like about Goodwill Hunting is the subject matter as well because really the focus is on a genius geniuses can sometimes be neglected overlooked dismissed they fall through the cracks sometimes and it's in the story. It took.

54:21.70
Brian Penn
University professor played by Stumman Scarsard to recognize his potential because he was a challenger that works out the solution to a mathematical problem. No one can solve and then he gets a psychologist to really get him out of his shell I love that kind of storyline. It's just challenging you in it and on a completely different level. Ah, think it's a brilliant film. Really really love this film.

54:43.53
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and I think the the way that it holds up is largely down to the cast I think it's it's a great cast. They've got a lovely chemistry like you're watching this film and whether it's yeah affle and Damon obviously they're going to be getting on like our was on fire. Best buds.

54:53.19
Brian Penn
Yeah, um.

55:02.58
ukfilmreview
Um, or if it's when Matt Damon's with mini driver I find that their bromce plot is just excellent like really find it very engaging because it's so believable. We we've got this almost Romeo and Juliet thing where he comes from the the poor background she comes from well what assumes to be a a wealthy background.

55:03.88
Brian Penn
Yeah.

55:13.76
Brian Penn
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:21.65
ukfilmreview
And the way that that has caused a central problem for them, especially for it seems for Matt Damon's character I love the way that that's explored and then you have this father figure of Robyn Williams who is like.

55:30.20
Brian Penn
Yeah. Who.

55:39.36
ukfilmreview
Him and st scarsard are these like surrogate parents they suddenly because because Matt da's character is an orphan that you suddenly have like the the the dad that really wants to push him which is like Stellan and then you've got um.

55:41.41
Brian Penn
There.

55:48.48
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, that's right? yeah.

55:53.00
ukfilmreview
Robyn Williams is like the yeah maybe the more maternal character I'm using gender stereotypes here but more eternal character that wants to just make sure that he can explore his issues and and be helped be a healthy person and I think that's what's really powerful platform them because actually it really does explore very.

55:56.37
Brian Penn
Yeah.

56:01.64
Brian Penn
There.

56:12.46
ukfilmreview
Ah, important things like um, yeah, toxic masculinity and male insecurities and things like that because it's it's doing all that and it is a largely male cast. You know it's It's only really miniage use The the female presence.

56:14.85
Brian Penn
There.

56:22.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but as to say it it still works. You know I think a lot of films will die. You know over time they they do. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing when a film does date doesn't mean to say that. The quality diminishes. It just becomes more typical of its time. But I don't think Goodwill Hunting is obviously a 90 s film. You know there are some films that are typically 90 s typically ass but this film could have been made today. It still feels so fresh. Tragically, we don't have Robin Williams here to play that part but its thats can't kind of film. It does I don't think it does die it' so all it's the strength of storytelling. It's what I always obsess about with any film I mean look honestly now seriously Chris you compare it to. Everything everywhere all at once. It's like comparing einstein to a caveman frankly.

57:23.92
ukfilmreview
Well I'm not calling it that anymore anymore I'm calling it everywhere. Everything everywhere all at once all over the place like I think yeah yeah I was that was brilliant I'm going to call it that.

57:28.79
Brian Penn
All over the place yet. But again, but but you see the point of making though is that we all like we all look for different things in the film now. Everything everywhere all at once has its qualities people like it people have voted with their feet. They say right? We like this. Fair enough, but this is my kind of film. This is a type of film that entertains you and not I don't like action movies I do but the type of action movie. Well I would like I like diehard or lual weapon or Indiana Jones that's my kind of action movie. That's the closest equivalent to everything everywhere all at once that I would like I like strong characters I like story liness like things you can really relate to but not something I mean I think this is quite this works on an intellectual level as well though doesn't it Goodwill Hansi I mean this is about a genius isn't it a mathematical genius.

58:20.10
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

58:25.48
Brian Penn
Not that it it delves into math mathematical theory very much. It shouldn't and it doesn't but nevertheless it's dealing with an intellectual mass who isn't it's dealing with the mind Robin Wins Place a psychologist. It's it's helping a genius think more clearlyly's it.

58:40.17
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and yeah, there's another film called a beautiful mind so Russell Cro and it has yeah similar like vibes but good rule hunting I think is's just leagues above it in terms of like memorable performances and just being a genuinely affecting film and that.

58:43.85
Brian Penn
Oh must cry. Yeah yeah, yeah.

58:55.45
Brian Penn
That.

58:57.67
ukfilmreview
Obviously everyone talks about that scene where Robyn Williams talks about his wife. Um it still on the bench and I like it I'd much like you I hadn't seen it for a good few years which is why I picked it because I'd watched it recently I was like you know I got a talk about this film and it.

59:00.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

59:10.80
Brian Penn
There and I does.

59:14.39
ukfilmreview
Got me again every time I watch this film it just every time and everybody does the bit. You know it's it's not your fault. It's that your fault you're like oh man now I'm going I'm going and I think it's just brilliant. It's got everything going for it and it still as potent today as it is as it was back then.

59:19.86
Brian Penn
yeah and I the yeah I mean I mean there are there are powerful emotional scenes throughout that film and that one particular scene that strikes me is again between Robin Williams and that damon. Where Matt Damon where will hunting's baiting him about his wife not knowing the background not understanding Robin Williams ' character properly. He makes a remark then Robin Williams character snaps the psychologist snaps and he he pins them up against the wall.

59:56.42
ukfilmreview
And.

59:58.58
Brian Penn
And you might think I would ask the end of that one because that was the fifth psychologist that the lamb bro I matched him up with but he he comes out of the office. He said bright Thursday Four o'clock you think great. We're on there. It's sort of like the battle lines are drawn it and we're in for a very illuminating encounter between great characters.

01:00:08.35
ukfilmreview
This is.

01:00:17.97
Brian Penn
And really cool actors. You know I mean Robyn William inspect Damon Ben Affle Stn scars guard a mini driver aren't they such cool actors you know, whatever cool is you know I I don't I can't define cool but I know it when I see it and this is cool.

01:00:33.27
ukfilmreview
Wow. Can't say better than that. Um, well that's our lot for this episode. Um, so for the next month we will probably release a ah more kind of firm list. But. Brian is there anything on your hit list in terms of cinema releases. You're gonna be capturing up with.

01:00:52.48
Brian Penn
Um, there's a couple that spring to mind. Ah there is women talking which is well representped in the Oscar nominations that's coming out this Friday I think and also what's love got to do with it.

01:01:08.80
ukfilmreview
Out.

01:01:09.81
Brian Penn
Not the not Latinina Turner film this is a film starring. Ah Emma Thompson and it's it's about arranged marriages or what they're now calling assisted marriages. So I'm expecting great things of that so it feels more like a light comedy so that. That's two that are will be on minus for the next podcast.

01:01:34.23
ukfilmreview
Fantastic. Um, we'll be picking up some indie films from a list that I put out on Twitter this week which where I asked some indie filmmakers whose film were on Amazon prime but I just need to go through and check with those? Um, but yeah. Check back regularly at uk film review anywhere on social. So Facebook Instagram Twitter will put the list out as soon as we can once we know what we're watching and yeah, any of the films that we've reviewed in this episode. You can also send us your your reviews of those I'm happy to maybe play them at the beginning of the episode then I'd be quite cool to just. Share those? Um, we're hoping to to get some contributions if not I'll hit up the podcast crew I'm sure they've all got lots to say about this. They always have lots to say those guys and girls those peeps. Um, but as always thank you for for joining us. We hope you've enjoyed this very first episode of Ukfilm Club

01:02:15.70
Brian Penn
You nowhere.

01:02:27.61
Brian Penn
Yes.

01:02:28.22
ukfilmreview
Very excited about it. Um Brian thank you as always good sir for joining me and for bringing such an amazing array of films to this episode. What a great start. We do um but that's it for this episode I think you get film of your podcast.

01:02:32.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, Welcome Yeah needs to keep it going now. Don't we.

01:02:46.70
ukfilmreview
We'll see you again next time.

01:02:47.78
Brian Penn
Bye for now.