The Alto Knights - Black Bag - Snow White - UK Film Club Ep 26

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Brian Penn
um I'm suffering and sneezing but hey what can you do

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Chris Olson
ah you ah Are you a regular hay fever sufferer then?

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Brian Penn
yeah I have good years and bad years but this year seem to started extra early so but you know it's it's life isn't it what can you do you know no

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Chris Olson
yeah ah Allergy season is is not fun. And made me think, actually, because... some In the past, I've tried outdoor screenings.

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Chris Olson
Have you ever done sort of outdoor screenings when there's been something?

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Brian Penn
No, what's that then? Oh,

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Chris Olson
So, like, sometimes there might be, like, a film they put on in a courtyard or they or yeah or they've done it in, like, um yeah, just like an outdoor event.

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Brian Penn
I what you mean. I see what you mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've done that, yeah.

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Chris Olson
Yeah. and is I think it's nice. They're good. But you are very much yeah open to the elements. And in the UK, it's not – I wouldn't say it's a great industry.

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Brian Penn
No, no, I know. they they have got the They do try the occasional drive-thru movie, don't they? Or drive-thru movie. But...

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Chris Olson
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
and but We haven't got the weather for it, have we really? It's that consistency's not there, is it? um Although it's a lovely idea to do an alfresco, isn't it? To see a film out outdoors. Because usually we associate films with with dark, sweaty rooms, don't we? that Where you go and see a film.

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Brian Penn
But maybe that's part the attraction for some people is that you you close the outside world out, you know?

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Chris Olson
Oh, definitely. And I think certain films work better. But what I think with the outdoor screenings was it, I don't think they work if it's a new film that you've not seen. I think it's good if it's like a kind of, so I went to see one that was, um it was Gremlins in an outdoor event.

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Brian Penn
Hmm.

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Brian Penn
Oh, okay. yeah

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Chris Olson
And that worked really well because everyone knew what was coming and everyone's kind of reacting, if you know what mean, to to it.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Whereas I think if you're watching something for the first time, don't know, I suppose also outdoor it could be, but it could also be at night, right?

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
Hmm.

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Chris Olson
You could be watching it.

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Brian Penn
Yeah, cool.

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Chris Olson
So it's still dark.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
But,

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
But yeah, like I was just thinking if a hay fever sufferers is a bit of a nightmare if it's anywhere near a yo-a.

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Brian Penn
Well, yeah, it could be. a But, ah yeah, I mean, the the rare occasions I've been to an outdoor screening, and there haven't been many, I can't even remember the last one I went to. um I've not been that effective, but it would be a no-no for me if it was anything like this year is going to be. But, hey, Chris, you put up with it, don't you? it's It's life, isn't it? What you do?

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Chris Olson
It's life. We put up with it. And if you're listening to this podcast, you're going to be putting up with us. um that's Brian.

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Brian Penn
What?

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Chris Olson
I'm Chris, and this is UK film club. And on this show, we review, a lot of films, a lot of films in this episode. I gotta say my, um, my tabs are absolutely running amok.

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Brian Penn
oh

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
My computer is going, what are you doing? Um, so we review films from cinema releases, indie streaming movies, um, independent movies and we also review a nostalgia pick at the end so that's a film from the past but yeah as I said this episode is absolutely chock-a-block so I'm not going to waste any time because we got a lot to get through Brian didn't go outdoors to watch any of these as far as I'm aware i all in the cinema uh these next few films we're going to start with Black Bad

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Brian Penn
and

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Brian Penn
Yeah. Hello.

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Brian Penn
We have.

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Brian Penn
No, All indoors, yeah.

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Brian Penn
Oh, okay, right, black bag. So, directed by Steven Soderbergh and starring Cate Blanchett, Michael Fassbender, Pierce Brosnan, Naomi Harris, Reggene Page, excellent cast.

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Brian Penn
In a nutshell, intelligence officer George Woodhouse, has received an order from his boss, Meacham. He has to identify who has leaked a software program called Severus.

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Brian Penn
There are five suspects and they're all a fellow spooks, one of whom is his wife, Catherine. The couple are joined by Clarissa, Freddie, Zoe and James for dinner. Here, George subjects them to deeper analysis and tries to discover their true motivation.

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Brian Penn
Now, I found this a very tight and well-constructed spy thriller. There's no padding. It's only 95 minutes... Sorry, 94 minutes long. Let's get it right.

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Chris Olson
I

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Brian Penn
So it gets to the point fairly quickly. It's not one of Steven Soderbergh's best films, but now you know you're in safe hands.

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Chris Olson
was going to say, he's a good filmmaker, he? He's got a good back catalogue, if you look at it.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. <unk> He's got a young very good track record. One of my favourite films, recent films, Out Sight, was directed by Steven Soderbergh with George Clooney and Andy.

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Brian Penn
Who else is in Outer Sight? Well, anyway, let's come back to that. um But, yeah, as said, a great cast, and they bring the story home.

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Brian Penn
But it all feels a bit routine. There are only so many places you can take a spy story like this. Nevertheless, all very well done. Great fun. Great entertainment. It's a goodie.

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Chris Olson
a goodie. I haven't seen Fassbender in anything in a while, actually. he sort of He did a slew of films that he was on everything, and then he sort of has a big gap.

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Brian Penn
No, he's... Yeah.

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Chris Olson
um

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
And obviously, you're having Pierce Brosnan in a spy thriller, that's always going to be you know reminiscent of Bond. i mean, how does this stack up against Bond?

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Brian Penn
Well, yeah, I think i think it's... um but Nothing really compares to Bond. I mean, it really depends how you see 007 generally. I mean, I'm a massive fan of Bond. Bond was the original spy on the big screen anyway, and he'll always be the big daddy of all ah spy characters.

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Brian Penn
But this, you know, if he's the big daddy, I think Black Bag could be the ah kind of the the um young and promising grandson of Bond.

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Chris Olson
yeah second cousin twice removed yeah something like that yeah

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Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, like something like that. ah Yeah, but there as I say, there are only so many places you can you can go with it. But I could see a sequel coming out of this quite easily. um You know, but It is what it is. And there are no great surprises, you know, but we're worth seeing.

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Brian Penn
But you need to be a fan of the genre as well, um I think.

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Chris Olson
Yeah, yeah.

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Brian Penn
But Soderbergh is very good at what he does. A very classy director. Chooses his films well and does a great job on it. And I've just remembered who else starred in it outside, by the way.

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Brian Penn
It's Jennifer Lopez with George Clooney.

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Chris Olson
There you go. That's

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Brian Penn
That's it. That would have bothered me. Sorry, listeners, if I've gone off the beaten track a little bit.

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Chris Olson
good.

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Brian Penn
and That would have bothered me all evening otherwise. um But no, to come back to Black Bag, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. You have to be a fan of the genre. um But it's it's good.

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Brian Penn
it's It's solid and really enjoyable. And it's still running, just about.

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Chris Olson
Wow. I was going to say, it looks like it's already available to rent on Prime Video, so I doubt it's got much longer left at the cinemas. But if you're listening to this um early on ah when we release it, maybe it's still out.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
If you've already seen it, do drop us say ah an email and and let us know what you thought of it. But yeah, Black Bag. Next up, I'm very much looking forward to your review of this, Brian, because it's got some heavy hitters in it.

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Brian Penn
Oh, yeah.

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Chris Olson
But Alto Nights with Robert De Niro.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
Oh, that's so nice. Yeah. Okay. Directed another great director, Barry Levinson, ah starring Robert De Diro, Deborah Messing, Catherine Narducci, and James Ciccone.

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Brian Penn
This is really the story of the Mafia's downfall. Vito Genovese and Frank Costello grew up together and become the driving force behind New York's most powerful crime family.

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Brian Penn
However, when Genovese spends the war in Italy, Costello takes control. He becomes the boss of bosses. But Genovese feels betrayed. It's a lot more we involved than that, but that's the gist of it, really.

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Brian Penn
um I really enjoyed this.

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Chris Olson
You did? Oh, good.

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Brian Penn
ah Yeah, really, really enjoyed it. you've got De Niro playing both roles. With the help of prosthetics and visual tricks, it really works well. I think he got some mixed reviews because De Niro was playing both parts.

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Brian Penn
But he's utterly compelling in both roles. His power hasn't diminished at all. Bearing in mind how long he's been around, he's in his late 70s now, but he's still compulsive. You can't take your eyes off him for one second. um Great direction for Barry Levinson, as you'd expect.

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Brian Penn
Nicholas Pelagyi, delivers a really sharp script. He also wrote the scripts for Goodfellas, so you know we know where we are. ah This is great storytelling for me.

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Brian Penn
Can't beat it. Yeah, great stuff.

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Chris Olson
So did it in the Irishman, right? In the Irishman, he played like different versions, but they made him younger.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Right. And I, well, it looked a bit surreal.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah,

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Chris Olson
I must say, i remember watching that and thinking it it's good, but it it looked weird.

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Brian Penn
yeah.

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Chris Olson
Um, but I don't, I don't see why that's a problem.

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Brian Penn
yeah

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Chris Olson
I think, know, they can do magic these days. Um,

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Brian Penn
Well, the interesting thing about the Irishman was that the I think they used some sort of visual tricks to make it to take 30 years off him. And it seemed to work more entirely. And you think, when he was driving the truck, this is in the Irishman.

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Brian Penn
When he was driving the truck, you think, God, they've done it. They've actually managed to make him look 30 years younger. And it seemed to me that the tricks just sort of dropped all of a sudden. But the difference here, I think, is that he's the two characters he's playing,

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Chris Olson
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
He's playing in later life. You know, they're not meant to be a lot younger than him. You know, they're both kind of like in their 60s. So it's kind of the right territory age-wise for De Niro. Although he could get away with, with a bit makeup and a bit of prosthetics.

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Brian Penn
It works really well. And you might say it's another Mafia story, you know. i'm You could argue you've seen one mafia story, you've seen them all, but this one is so well executed.

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Brian Penn
And when you look at the people involved and the director, Barry Levinson, who has a diverse portfolio of films, and he directed Good Morning Vietnam and Rain Man, and now he's directed a film about the mafia.

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Chris Olson
you

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Brian Penn
and It shows what what a great director he is. But all of that's at play. The film itself has... has had mixed reviews. You know, that's the way the cookie crumbles, I guess. But um I thought it was a great film.

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Brian Penn
And because um it tells the story of the beginning of the end for The Mafia as we knew it, it's kind of one of like those films that feels like a bookend.

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Brian Penn
You know, Gotti came after <unk>lo but you know, in terms of the Mafia being the force they were, this was the beginning and the end for them.

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Brian Penn
So it feels like it's bookended much bigger story that started with, say, The Godfather. And you could say he's kind of finishing here with, um with Alto Nikes, which is also known as wise guys, I think, in some countries.

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Brian Penn
but

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Chris Olson
Oh, really? okay, didn't know that different name.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Oh, yeah, no, that is, a I'm obviously De Niro and these guys that sort of synonymous with the genre, near the gangster genre.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Goodfellas, you mentioned that earlier, Irishman, all these films, and, yeah, There's so many. And yeah but if you're listening, keen-eared listeners may hear a Bobby De Niro pop up in a film we reviewed later on in this episode.

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Chris Olson
you know if you If you stick to the end.

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Brian Penn
Oh, right. Yeah.

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Chris Olson
um

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Brian Penn
That's an intensive.

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Chris Olson
I'm not saying weve we we haven't got him on the podcast, sadly. We're a little bit um small fish, I think, for for Bobby.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. and I know. Well, at the moment we are. You never know.

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Chris Olson
But hopefully we can get him at some point.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. We might get Bob one day. You never know.

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Chris Olson
One day. um They might have to CGI him to make him physically younger by the time we get him.

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Brian Penn
Yeah, I know, you never know.

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Chris Olson
Or they might have to to completely resurrect him. You know, that might have to happen.

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Brian Penn
You never know. and i Yeah, we don't mind wasting it.

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Chris Olson
um don't mind waiting yeah happy for that um moving on now to another cinematic release and this one has caused quite a stir I don't think I've seen a IMDB rating so low um for a movie and listeners probably already know what we're talking about but yes the latest Disney output of a classic Snow White 2025 Brian mate

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
It has, doesn't it? I know. know.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
ryan

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Brian Penn
Yeah, right.

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Chris Olson
go

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Brian Penn
Okay then. All right. So, directed by Mark Webb, starring Rachel Ziegler, Gail Godot, and Andrew Burnap. So look, we all know the story of Snow White, but let's just quickly run through the basics so we know know where we are.

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Brian Penn
The king and queen's daughter is born during a snowstorm and is given the name Snow White, but the queen tragically dies. He quickly remarries and leaves... and leaves to deal with a threat to his kingdom.

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Brian Penn
When he fails to return, his wife declares herself queen and is hated by her subjects, whom she rules harshly. Snow White is confined to the palace as a scullery maid. However, she soon meets the mysterious Jonathan and his gang of thieves, and also finds unexpected help in the forest as she seeks the truth.

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Brian Penn
Okay, that's it, really. We all know the story. We all know the story of Snow White, aren't Look, it's...

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Chris Olson
the

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Brian Penn
Dare I say it's the C word springing to mind again. And I do mean competent. You know, you were worried for a second there, weren't you?

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Chris Olson
Yeah. Yep. Yep. thought I was going to bleep you there.

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Brian Penn
ah ah Yeah, I've done that. I've done that. i won't do that one again because I've done it a couple of times in the past. um I try and stay original-ish. Anyway. and Yeah, look, I mean, it's a competent film. It's well made. It's live action up to a point.

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Brian Penn
and The new songs are ah terribly corny. I don't think they do anything for the film, but it's Walt Disney. um I can see ah can see a musical stage musical coming off the back of this. so So, Gird Your Loins and all that. um As we know, it's been a ah massive flop.

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Brian Penn
It's been followed by controversy. Rachel Ziegler's made some very negative comments about the original. um You know, she thought that Prince Charming was stalking Snow White in the original.

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Brian Penn
a for i read my ah If I read my publicity yeah extracts properly. please None of it helps, but I think it's masking what is a very ordinary film.

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Brian Penn
Walt Disney have shut a lot of money at it, and they might so far they've made an incredible loss. um it doesn't ah don't think it stays very true to and to the original film. I mean, for one thing, now we we have to think about the D word as well, and D word being dwarves, because the dwarves have been lost from the film's title,

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Brian Penn
They're not referred to directly, they're called special beings, which I find slightly odd. And um also, being animated, being CGI generated, they also denied work to Dwarf Actors, which Peter Dinklage has honed in on.

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Brian Penn
So lots of negative publicity following the film. The film itself is just OK. I can't say it's any better than that. um And I think Walt Disney are bracing themselves.

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Brian Penn
And they already are. And it's it's just not it's not as good as the original. I would always take the original animated feature any time over this film.

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Brian Penn
But it's it's it's okay. But it's no more than that. But you see, we're not looking for something that's okay, are we? We're looking for something that's great, that's going to blow you away. And this doesn't.

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Chris Olson
Yeah, I think these live-action remakes have always come out. yeah I think partly these studios, they all love the volatile reaction, right?

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Chris Olson
Because it means more bums on seats because more people are going to go see it.

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Brian Penn
Hmm. Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Everyone's talking about it. Yeah.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah,

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Chris Olson
and It's like the producers, right? They know what they're doing. and They know this is going to...

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Brian Penn
cool stuff, yeah.

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Chris Olson
yeah When they do like Little Mermaid and and and they know they're going myth people off because what they've got is they've got an old audience who all want to go see it because they want to see how it compares to their original and they've got a new audience who will know what the fuss is about so they know what they're doing but in terms of what they're putting out as you say it's not even that it's even that bad it's often it's just not that good it's just okay it's watchable and you kind of just forget it about it really quickly i remember watching ah I'm a Cinderella, one of them.

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Chris Olson
I remember just thinking, okay, yeah like you say, it wanted me to do is put on the original.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
I'm just going put the original on because that's a better made film.

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Brian Penn
Yeah, I know.

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Chris Olson
It's more interesting. It's original. And it didn't need this. um And it just I think it's just showing a little bit of contempt for audiences when they do this and they do this marketing stunt and expect us to just sort of put up with it.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
But I don't because i don't go see it.

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Brian Penn
yeah

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Chris Olson
But unfortunately, yeah we make you go see it, Brian. So...

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Brian Penn
Well, yeah, I know. i like This is what i what I do for Film Club, you know, and I'm happy to do so.

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Chris Olson
Yeah. Happy to do so.

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Brian Penn
But, ah you know, like like I say, there there are too many films being made now that are designed just to make money. That's always been the way, you know. That's why there is a film industry, to make money. But they're also there to entertain and make something that's going to last, that's going to stand the test of time.

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Brian Penn
um And now we don't see great movies being made. Or if we do, they're very few and far between. And this is going to just fall through the cracks. It's not a film that's going to be remembered with any a i mean affection.

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Chris Olson
Well, there you go.

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Brian Penn
and

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Chris Olson
ah Film of the month, Brian, at the cinemas?

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Brian Penn
Film of the month, Alto Nights.

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Chris Olson
I'll turn right. I thought so, but I thought check.

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Brian Penn
Yeah, anything with denarii is normally a go-to where that's concerned.

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Chris Olson
Yeah, I didn't think it was going to Snow White, but you never know. I thought you might be controversial.

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Brian Penn
I might have surprised you, but no, on this occasion, it was, I mean, Black Bag is good fun, but but it's, it's formulaized. I mean, Alto Nights is as well, but it, it's scott It's got De Niro in it, and it just raises it to another level, doesn't it, really?

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Absolutely. um So those are your cinema releases, listeners. We're moving now to our streaming pick. And before we review the film we're going to focus on, I'm just going to give a quick shout out to a film that we reviewed previously in the indie section of our episode um on can't remember which episode, February or ah January maybe?

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Chris Olson
uh a film called what no one knows um we both really enjoyed it me and brian and it's now available on amazon prime just wanted to give them a shout out because they got in touch and they're very excited about being released on amazon prime i think right now it's actually included with prime so if you get if you've got prime or get prime

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Brian Penn
and Good.

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Brian Penn
ah

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Chris Olson
then you can watch it for free, I believe. If not, you can rent it on there.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
But yeah, What No One Knows, it's called.

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Brian Penn
Nice. Excellent. Yeah.

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Chris Olson
um And yeah, also go back and listen to our review of it if you can find the episode because I wasn't very specific about that.

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Brian Penn
Very good.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
um And yeah.

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Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

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Chris Olson
It was the one where we had to be very careful about spoilers. So I'm not even going to talk about the film.

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Brian Penn
yeah

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Chris Olson
um

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Brian Penn
yeah

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Chris Olson
But yeah, it was very good. is It was a very good...

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
Worth watch.

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Brian Penn
Yep.

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Chris Olson
ah But moving on to a film that is available on Prime as well that we haven't reviewed.

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Brian Penn
Absolutely.

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Chris Olson
Big star, Viola Davis. And the movie's called This is... um this is as the name suggests, centered around a group of leaders who get together and who make all the decisions in life.

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Chris Olson
Um, but during a G20 summit, um, Viola Davis, who plays, President diana Daniela Sutton, um, they are interrupted very rudely by a group of, uh, terrorists, um,

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Brian Penn
Mm.

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Chris Olson
who decided to hold them at ransom to the world in this sort of economic stalemate to try and push, ah well, global instability, headed by a character called Rutledge, Anthony Starr,

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Chris Olson
plays this sort rogue operative who's very angry at the world leaders. um And what happens is is this big action kick-ass movie where Viola Davis manages to sort of elude these terrorists but must now try and escape and prevent their evil plan, their dastardly plan.

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Brian Penn
Yeah.

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Chris Olson
um What did you think of G20, Brian?

00:20:36.85
Brian Penn
G20. Yeah. Do you know I liked it? I liked it. But it's the type of film that you mustn't think about too much.

00:20:43.63
Chris Olson
Yeah, leave your brain at the door.

00:20:45.32
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Leave your brains at the door. Or if you do take your brain with you, just put it into neutral. ah because um if you try and think about this film too deeply, it just becomes preposterous.

00:20:58.58
Chris Olson
Oh yeah.

00:20:59.22
Brian Penn
Absolutely preposterous. You know, it wouldn't happen. You know, the fact that, now I love Viola Davis. I think she's a great actor. And she's totally convincing in the role.

00:21:10.94
Brian Penn
She pulls it off. No question you would believe she could be could be a president, right? But she also happens to be an army veteran, you know, a Marine who happens to be, happens to escape the initial hostage grab. Right?

00:21:30.05
Brian Penn
So she's out on the loose. She's the American president and just happens to have all of America's allies with them. You know, she's got the the British prime minister. She's got the Japanese president.

00:21:45.69
Brian Penn
She's got the French president. So all, All of America's broad allies are kind of with her and she's leading the the fight back. um But, know, it sounds a bit picky, but you think, oh, really, honestly?

00:21:59.54
Brian Penn
um And also, the you know, another good reason not to think about it too much is the it's kind of like the kind of the the techie part of the story. You know, the fact that they're holding the world's leaders to ransom, but they're also forcing the money markets to act in the way they want them to.

00:22:19.57
Brian Penn
to ensure that bitcoins are worth more or the major form of currency. That didn't entirely make a lot of sense to me. So that's something else you got.

00:22:27.50
Chris Olson
No, I struggle with that. i must when it when they talk about Bitcoin, I was like, oh gosh, I'm out of my depth here.

00:22:29.28
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:22:31.71
Brian Penn
No, it's like, I know. So that's something else you got to forget about. Um, but everything else is very well done. It's it, you know, as I say, you've just got to take it for what it is. So it is a very kind of exciting, uh, well well, um,

00:22:49.27
Brian Penn
comprised political thriller, right? And good action, great visuals, great fun to watch. But that's really really it, you know, doesn't it?

00:23:00.01
Chris Olson
i have I have one fundamental problem with and that fundamental problem is that they they should have split that character into two. I don't understand why you you have the President of the United States. Yeah, absolutely. Davis can play that character, 100%. Yeah.

00:23:15.77
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:23:15.85
Chris Olson
to the to the To the cows come home, she can play that character.

00:23:17.82
Brian Penn
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:23:19.06
Chris Olson
But playing that character and this badass, you know, like vet that can just, you know, knock out six agents once.

00:23:27.19
Brian Penn
and and I know, I know.

00:23:28.49
Chris Olson
i was like, that should have been a different character. There's there's there's no reason to have her have to do both.

00:23:32.87
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:23:34.24
Chris Olson
She could still be great, don't get me wrong, and you can make it a little bit physical, but there are bits where it just absolutely undermines the whole movie because she's doing things that she looks like John Wick.

00:23:34.25
Brian Penn
Well.

00:23:37.03
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:23:43.82
Chris Olson
And you're like, what are you doing?

00:23:43.80
Brian Penn
Yeah, know. Well, yes, know.

00:23:45.68
Chris Olson
like And you had characters there.

00:23:47.88
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:23:48.16
Chris Olson
There was like um hidden operatives within this like big hotel.

00:23:51.93
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:23:52.98
Chris Olson
They can do that stuff. You don't need her to do it.

00:23:54.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, Exactly.

00:23:55.72
Chris Olson
And I think they just almost sort of thought, this will be fun, wouldn't it?

00:23:58.67
Brian Penn
and I know, know.

00:23:58.72
Chris Olson
This is a bit of fun.

00:23:59.35
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:24:00.01
Chris Olson
And it's like, okay.

00:24:00.32
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:24:00.97
Chris Olson
I really liked Anthony Starr, though, as the bad. I thought he worked really well. He's really, like, unstable.

00:24:05.06
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's good.

00:24:07.03
Chris Olson
um And I like him when he's in The Boys, so this was was great.

00:24:07.21
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:24:09.63
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:24:10.79
Chris Olson
But, yeah, that that fundamental issue was just like, okay, well, you didn't need to do that. that was a That was an issue that you've put into that film on purpose.

00:24:17.89
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:24:19.30
Chris Olson
And I thought that was a bit annoying. But apart from that, it didn't drag. I enjoyed the sort What I did like about it, and by by no means are these comparable films, but it had a bit of a diehard feel to it where, you know, like they're trying to they're locked in this building and they're trying to get out.

00:24:32.79
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah, it

00:24:36.65
Chris Olson
It's all kind of happening. It feels like real time, right?

00:24:37.98
Brian Penn
did. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that that's a good point. that You know, the fact that it feels a bit like Speed. I mean, there was one scene where they're inside a lift, aren't they?

00:24:48.45
Chris Olson
Yeah.

00:24:48.60
Brian Penn
I mean, I almost think they borrowed that from Speed. But, you know, I don't mind that so much because they're transparent about it and it's not, they're not trying to pass it off as anything revolutionary or groundbreaking.

00:25:01.47
Brian Penn
um But, Yeah, I think you're right. I think they've overloaded Viola Davis' character. so Danielle Sutton a bit too much of a ah superhero, really.

00:25:12.11
Brian Penn
um I mean, she'd have been much better off just being flesh and blood. Do you know what mean? um

00:25:18.18
Chris Olson
and then I get it because they don't want to put her as this sort of like meek political person that just has no like strength but I'm just saying I think they lent into it way too hard and then they kind of went oh we've lost all sense of reality now like okay fine

00:25:24.79
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:25:30.12
Brian Penn
know, yeah. yeah

00:25:34.61
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:25:34.71
Chris Olson
And, yeah, not but it is, like you say, if you love your action heroes and you love your action films, patriotic and yeah just absolute foot to the floor, this is it.

00:25:42.57
Brian Penn
Yep.

00:25:46.06
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:25:46.74
Chris Olson
this is yeah You'll get that out this film. And don't get wrong, I love watching Vila Davis. I think she's great. I've i've seen her in so many films that i thought...

00:25:52.31
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:25:54.27
Chris Olson
just give her an Oscar. like But this isn't one of them. Don't give her an Oscar for this one.

00:25:57.20
Brian Penn
No, no, no.

00:25:58.54
Chris Olson
and There's so many other films that you can do that.

00:25:59.33
Brian Penn
No.

00:26:00.97
Chris Olson
um But yeah, g twenty is available on Prime Video. We're not associated with Prime Video, by the way. Well, not in any sort tangible way.

00:26:07.97
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:26:10.15
Chris Olson
So I'm not...

00:26:10.31
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:26:11.36
Chris Olson
We normally review Netflix films. There's just a lot is coming up with Prime these days. i don't know if they're sort of upping their game or getting more, you know, involved.

00:26:16.57
Brian Penn
Yeah, could be.

00:26:18.63
Chris Olson
Could be.

00:26:18.77
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:26:19.57
Chris Olson
Maybe it's us. Maybe they're just trying to impress us.

00:26:21.86
Brian Penn
Yeah, I know. The message is obviously getting through. We're touching, we're touching chords and nerves, aren't we? I can tell.

00:26:29.60
Chris Olson
Well, maybe we will get Bobby on the show if yeah if we continue in this ah and this way.

00:26:32.09
Brian Penn
Yeah. You never know. Yeah.

00:26:35.27
Chris Olson
um Moving on now to our indie film section of the show. This is where we review a selection of movies have been sent to us by indie filmmakers from around the world, would you believe? um

00:26:45.16
Brian Penn
Wow.

00:26:45.92
Chris Olson
They have actually asked us to review this. We've not just gone out of our way to sort of chip in in the discourse. They want to know what we think. So here it is, you know, we're going to do that.

00:26:53.50
Brian Penn
Wow.

00:26:55.53
Chris Olson
and And I'm very pleased say um we've got five in this show. And of all five, I've got clips or at least something to play for each one.

00:26:59.19
Brian Penn
boom

00:27:02.08
Brian Penn
oh well

00:27:03.61
Chris Olson
so we're going to start with a feature film called Time Rewind. And here is the trailer clip.

00:28:42.71
Chris Olson
There we go. Clip from Time Rewind, indie film written and directed by Lincoln Fener. Brian, do you want do the rundown on this one?

00:28:52.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, cool. So we have Sean Richards. He wakes up in a graveyard. Sorry, he wakes up on a graveyard bench, apparently suffering memory loss. He's suspected of murdering his teenage daughter, sir Jessica.

00:29:05.86
Brian Penn
To avoid arrest, he must unravel hidden clues from his past. As Sean recalls fragments of the past, he learns that Jessica may have travelled back in time to 1989 and fallen love with his old school rival.

00:29:19.05
Brian Penn
As pressure builds, he must find a way back to save Jessica's life. Now, I really enjoyed this.

00:29:25.17
Chris Olson
Yeah, I did. it had a nice um sci-fi time travel vibe without it being too sci-fi.

00:29:26.01
Brian Penn
i

00:29:30.19
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:29:32.33
Chris Olson
It was kind of cosy.

00:29:32.82
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:29:33.68
Chris Olson
It did remind me a little bit of um what one of my favourite films, About Time. ah do you remember...

00:29:38.38
Brian Penn
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:29:39.39
Chris Olson
yeah

00:29:39.66
Brian Penn
That's the Richard Curtis film, isn't it?

00:29:40.79
Chris Olson
Yeah, obviously no not in every aspect, but in terms of it being like it's a British time travel movie.

00:29:46.03
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:29:47.53
Chris Olson
You've got the sort of quaint streets of London being used.

00:29:50.25
Brian Penn
know. I love that.

00:29:50.47
Chris Olson
And yeah, I thought you might.

00:29:51.58
Brian Penn
it's but It's very London, isn't it?

00:29:52.83
Chris Olson
was watching and said, oh, Brian's going to like this because you it's set in Hampstead, isn't it?

00:29:54.37
Brian Penn
Yeah. It's Hampstead, yeah.

00:29:56.67
Chris Olson
and um

00:29:58.04
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:29:58.07
Chris Olson
And I thought, oh, Brian's going to love that.

00:29:59.72
Brian Penn
Lots of shots of the tube. I like that. I mean, look, it's home for me, right? It reminds me of home. And and that makes it even more rewarding and more pleasant to watch even.

00:30:13.66
Brian Penn
whilst um time travel storylines are so well-worn and so well-used, I've tried to do something a bit different here. You know, that it just feels a bit fresher, right?

00:30:27.29
Brian Penn
And this genre will always work and it will always have value if you if put your own stamp on it And that's what I think Lincoln Fenner has done. um and they're not as easy to make as you think.

00:30:39.76
Brian Penn
And also, it's got a limited budget. I mean, obviously, the bigger the budget you've got, the more money you can can chuck at it. But this uses purely... It relies more on the story itself, on the dialogue, to get it done.

00:30:56.42
Brian Penn
And it doesn't rely on any sort of CGI or special effects that I'm aware of. But a very enjoyable film, and ah and a very ah very sort of ah familiar catchy, icy soundtrack as well.

00:31:09.86
Chris Olson
and Yeah, I mean, we've got a couple of um yeah period pieces, I guess they would call them, um in this show.

00:31:10.23
Brian Penn
but

00:31:16.61
Chris Olson
And this is one of them. I love the aesthetic that they went for. It made me really miss cassette tapes, I must say.

00:31:20.02
Brian Penn
ah

00:31:22.33
Chris Olson
I was like, I miss cassette tapes.

00:31:22.80
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:31:24.32
Chris Olson
Yeah, you do a mixtape and things like that.

00:31:24.32
Brian Penn
Mixtapes. Yeah, we remember mixtapes. and I know.

00:31:27.49
Chris Olson
um Yeah, I think you're right mon in terms of the genre. It is well-worn and... There's a reason for that, i think, because it's it's an interesting contraption to use, right, for storytelling.

00:31:35.17
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:31:37.22
Chris Olson
And i think here, where they've sort of mixed in with detective-type element, yeah he's trying to figure out what's happened.

00:31:37.62
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:31:46.10
Chris Olson
It worked quite well because he's having to go to the past to work out We obviously know kind of where he ends up. And yeah, I think it works really well. I think it is confusing at times. I'll be honest. I think and and yeah it's not easy.

00:31:57.85
Chris Olson
yeah Sorry, it's not hard to confuse me. But it it was confusing, but it was in a charming sort of way. it didn't feel like...

00:32:04.23
Brian Penn
yeah

00:32:05.70
Chris Olson
oh my God, what's going on? I'm not enjoying this. felt more like, wow, what is going on?

00:32:07.98
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

00:32:09.65
Chris Olson
But yeah I'm happy to be on this rise. I'm happy to just carry on.

00:32:11.49
Brian Penn
Yeah,

00:32:13.20
Chris Olson
um But yeah, I think the the tone and the aesthetic and the mise en scene of the film work really well to... make it more of a mainstream type of film.

00:32:25.66
Chris Olson
I think it could capture a mainstream audience because it's got, and like you say the scenes of London and note that sort of nostalgia for that work even more to just throw you into this piece and make you kind of ah be absorbed by it.

00:32:25.90
Brian Penn
think you could.

00:32:40.65
Chris Olson
um And this yeah, the music is great. It's got called called whimsy to it, I found. it was quite It was quite fun and engaging at times and it knew when to sort of...

00:32:45.44
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:32:49.46
Chris Olson
um yeah bring it up.

00:32:52.02
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:32:52.12
Chris Olson
i' I'm kind of conscious of not going too much into the storyline on this one because of like you know giving spoilers away, um even though yeah that would be even more difficult yeah ah being piecing it all together.

00:32:55.84
Brian Penn
Well, yeah.

00:32:59.24
Brian Penn
know.

00:33:04.19
Chris Olson
But definitely enjoyed it.

00:33:04.68
Brian Penn
Yeah. i Yeah, i enjoy I enjoyed it. And as you you almost in a way can't describe too much of the narrative because... then you, you you know, the cat's entirely out of the bag then.

00:33:19.40
Brian Penn
So you you only want to go so far. And I think we've, we've gone as far as we can in in the way we've described it, because then the rest rest of it's up to the viewers to sit down and watch it and decipher it and work it out and properly understand what it means.

00:33:35.48
Brian Penn
But that's the type of film it is. And time travel films are like that. You know, you can struggle with time travel, the concepts of time travel and, You have to sort of forget about what's happening now because they've gone back to the past.

00:33:49.59
Brian Penn
But they've got someone from the past and maybe someone from the future. um But the complicating factor here, I suppose, in terms of the storytelling is you've got on the police are involved and the police are trying to understand what he's saying um based on what they know. And his conviction that there's something in the past about to affect the present.

00:34:11.29
Brian Penn
But it's very well done. I enjoyed it. I liked it.

00:34:14.22
Chris Olson
Yeah, wanted to shout out the main actor, you Tim Cullingworth-Hudson, who plays Sean, because that is quite a difficult role to play, yeah where you've got a character that's in two different zones and they're having yeah amnesia and stuff like that.

00:34:22.32
Brian Penn
Yeah. I think it is. Yeah.

00:34:28.22
Chris Olson
I think it's it's a lot to try and put on someone.

00:34:28.26
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:34:30.73
Chris Olson
As you say, it's not a massive budget film and some of the acting is a bit choppy in it at times, but he's he's pretty solid. He's pretty good throughout, I found, and i think...

00:34:39.61
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:34:41.62
Chris Olson
a film like this that is trying to do a lot it's not it's ambitious at least you can't say anything but ambition um i think it's good when you've got someone central who can hold the line and keep things on track because otherwise it would have been a de very different film if you had someone that couldn't handle that role so yeah shout out there um

00:34:47.80
Brian Penn
ah yeah i mean yeah

00:35:05.35
Chris Olson
Yeah, the film's called Time Rewind. I don't think it's available. We watched it on a past representative link, I believe.

00:35:11.77
Brian Penn
uh

00:35:12.86
Chris Olson
But I can signpost you. So if you want to follow the film, and they have an Instagram page called at Time Rewind the Movie. All ah one word there.

00:35:24.58
Chris Olson
And um you can also go to our website and read Jason's review. ah He reviewed it back in March. really really enjoyed it uh you can also watch the trailer appreciate we played the trailer audio there but you can actually go and watch the trailer if you yeah found it interesting and want to see what more about what the film was like give them a follow on instagram and then you can stay to date as and when um they make it available but i believe it's kind of in that process of being festivalled and all that sort of stuff

00:35:53.63
Brian Penn
Mm-hmm.

00:35:53.90
Chris Olson
I might be wrong. yeah but Or by the time you listen to this, that could have changed. But definitely um the best place is going be Instagram.

00:35:57.69
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:35:59.48
Chris Olson
Stay up to date with them.

00:35:59.89
Brian Penn
Mm-hmm.

00:36:01.19
Chris Olson
um

00:36:01.41
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:36:02.31
Chris Olson
But yeah, thank you very much to Lincoln and all the team for sending in Time Rewind.

00:36:04.32
Brian Penn
yeah

00:36:07.90
Chris Olson
Moving on now to another indie film. But this one, I believe, an American movie. ah Directed by Mark Hensley. Written by Mark Dupont. Called Clown and Out. And here is another clip.

00:37:57.65
Chris Olson
There's a lot in that trailer, by the way.

00:37:57.89
Brian Penn
Yeah. Hmm.

00:37:59.22
Chris Olson
Apologies if it's giving away any spoilers.

00:37:59.53
Brian Penn
yeah

00:38:01.55
Chris Olson
um But yeah, ah Joe Heck plays John, um a down on his luck clown for hire, who we find breaking into the apartment of Elaine, an actress.

00:38:15.15
Chris Olson
The... Reasons for him being there, I'm not going to go into at all, because I think that is a spoiler. um But when he ah finds his way into the apartment, Elaine is suicidal. and She's about to kill herself.

00:38:30.70
Chris Olson
And things become increasingly complicated and dangerous being there. and Not least because there seems to be a hitman there.

00:38:42.05
Chris Olson
causing trouble, and also ah elaine Elaine's neighbour is also packing and um may end up getting a few shots at our party clown.

00:38:43.92
Brian Penn
Like a nuisance yourself. Yeah.

00:38:53.04
Chris Olson
um What do you think of clowning out, Brian?

00:38:56.80
Brian Penn
Good title for a film, by the way.

00:38:58.74
Chris Olson
Yeah, like it.

00:38:59.76
Brian Penn
Clown and out, down and out. Yeah, I like that. It's very good. um Yeah, I liked it. I think it's very... It's very... don't know. It has that kind of Quentin Tarantino feel to it.

00:39:12.09
Chris Olson
You've literally taken that from my notes. You must have done that. That was in my notes.

00:39:14.92
Brian Penn
Well, it does seem that way, doesn't it You know, it's it's let's just say at the very least, it's influenced by Quentin Tarantino, particularly his early work. You know, if you look at something like Pulp Fiction, it's almost like the director has taken...

00:39:29.38
Brian Penn
that as a model, as a template. You know, you've got ah i ah serious a group of disparate characters that are all interlinked in some way.

00:39:41.11
Brian Penn
And it's like he's kind of broken up the story into sections and thrown it up and put it together slightly differently. it feels a bit more disjointed than it should be, but it kind of works.

00:39:52.36
Brian Penn
And I just love that kind of kind of idea that you've got a character who's a clown by trade but has got himself mixed it up in something very sinister where he can't really play his trade as a clown based on what he's involved in now um but as you say it's not something you can we can go into too much detail on because it gives the plot away and we don't want to do that but very entertaining very dark in places well acted it's a good cast

00:40:28.20
Brian Penn
know what they're doing, understand their roles really well, and it works. You know, it's got a ah very, um it's got a good sort of polish about it.

00:40:39.97
Brian Penn
It's very accomplished, and I really enjoyed it.

00:40:41.72
Chris Olson
Yeah, I found the first section of the film was hard to break into because a lot of the characters weren't interacting. Like there was, like the clown was, is it John? No, Joe, was... um on his own.

00:40:55.36
Chris Olson
And it was quite like, ah once him and Elaine kind of came together, then it was a bit more okay, here we go. Like we're into it. And it also made more sense later on once they sort of revealed what was happening.

00:41:02.24
Brian Penn
Yeah, exactly, yeah.

00:41:05.49
Chris Olson
Again, we can't sort explain that.

00:41:07.09
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:41:07.50
Chris Olson
But what I would say is to any viewer that's watching clowning out is stick with it.

00:41:12.23
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:41:12.42
Chris Olson
If you are feeling that sort of sluggish pace at the beginning, because it really picks up once you understand what's going on.

00:41:15.73
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:41:18.87
Chris Olson
um And as you say, it's got a nice polish to it.

00:41:19.70
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:41:21.89
Chris Olson
I found it... It was gritty. At times it was violent, but and i so not in an overly kind of way that's going to upset you. But you certainly it's um you can stomach that.

00:41:34.59
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:41:35.05
Chris Olson
And I found that, considering this is a really low-budget film, 4K, I think, which is not a lot, and considering it's a feature as well, not a long feature, but it is a feature-length film, I thought it was great.

00:41:40.20
Brian Penn
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.

00:41:46.46
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:41:49.24
Chris Olson
thought the chemistry between the actors was really great.

00:41:50.79
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:41:52.17
Chris Olson
um it looked and felt like a professional film.

00:41:56.13
Brian Penn
yeah

00:41:56.22
Chris Olson
um The music choices were really good. There was a bit, I think some of the sound felt like it was off, but that, yeah, that's definitely forgivable.

00:41:59.41
Brian Penn
yeah

00:42:05.03
Chris Olson
It's just the me being picky, I think.

00:42:06.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, I

00:42:06.85
Chris Olson
um ah so yeah I put Tarantino in my notes, but yeah, I think even the filmmaker had said that it was all paying homage to sort of gritty independent films of the past, and it definitely does that.

00:42:07.86
Brian Penn
yeah

00:42:13.74
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like i can I can see that. I mean, it's obvious where his influences lie. And there's nothing in wrong with that, you know, being influenced by someone like Tarantino.

00:42:26.71
Brian Penn
um It's not, that's not, no issues there for me there at all. But, What I think he has done where he has copied Tarantino is that he's broken the story into sections more.

00:42:39.33
Brian Penn
and that's big And for that reason, he makes you work a bit harder to understand how the characters relate.

00:42:44.36
Chris Olson
Yeah.

00:42:47.37
Brian Penn
And you're right, once John meets Elaine, it kind of all clicks. You think, ah, okay, right, I get it now. And there's a reward there, if you like. So he makes you earn it. And ah there's nothing wrong with that. ah You know, i don't mind sort of working a bit harder for my assignment.

00:43:05.76
Chris Olson
Oh, yeah. We talked about G20 earlier. Well, they don't do that at all. Yeah. They just give you this spoon feed you everything and hope you just sort of don't mind it.

00:43:09.72
Brian Penn
No. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:43:12.82
Chris Olson
Whereas with this is treating the audience with a lot more intelligence and yeah expecting them say, look, cool OK, yeah, this isn't going to be for everyone.

00:43:15.71
Brian Penn
Yeah, sure.

00:43:20.16
Chris Olson
But the people that stick around that like this sort of genre film are going to love it. And I think they will.

00:43:24.13
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:43:24.42
Chris Olson
I think it's got a lot going for it.

00:43:25.57
Brian Penn
o

00:43:26.38
Chris Olson
A lot going for it.

00:43:26.55
Brian Penn
Definitely.

00:43:27.48
Chris Olson
um as said the the chemistry the actors is really good so yeah shout out to the uh to the main actors uh katie mayhard joe heck maxi williams um zachari axel minatia smith positive i've pronounced any of those names wrong i thought i'd just take a little punt on all of them and some um some i'm i feel more confident than others but i i think it's you when we have such a small budget film it's great to give you

00:43:27.52
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:43:32.75
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:43:45.25
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:43:48.49
Brian Penn
Yeah. know that

00:43:53.33
Chris Olson
um and a little bit of applause to especially the actors because it it's not always possible you know because it's not always possible to film the scenes loads of times and get the best take so maybe they do have to kind of just run with it and do the best they can with what they've got and actually i didn't feel that the acting at all let this film down in any way um

00:44:04.11
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

00:44:07.72
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:44:12.49
Brian Penn
No, no, not at all. I think they're all really good. at And they seem to be, I think really when you've got a a low budget movie like this, an indie feature, is that I think by necessity, the actors have to be a lot better rehearsed before they go in and shoot because they've got less time.

00:44:30.78
Chris Olson
Yeah.

00:44:32.46
Brian Penn
and less money to to work with. But it was a very good cast. Maxie Williams played the but the ah producer, Frank. I thought he was really good, actually.

00:44:42.17
Chris Olson
Yeah.

00:44:42.21
Brian Penn
and

00:44:43.03
Chris Olson
A hundred percent.

00:44:43.03
Brian Penn
Yeah, good stuff. Enjoyed it.

00:44:45.45
Chris Olson
So the film's called Clown and Out. We don't have masses of information, and but there is a trailer on our website. So if you go and if you just Google Clown and Out, with like an N within the post-it, by the way, i and yeah review, you'll find our website.

00:45:00.72
Chris Olson
yeah Jason also reviewed this, and you the bottom of the review, you'll see the trailer. So worth having a look at that. um But yeah, we don't have masses of information about that, other than it was... um directed by Mark Hensley.

00:45:15.39
Chris Olson
So if you're a bit more technically apt, then the, um, the YouTube embed or Vimeo embed actually that has the trailer, you can follow Mark's channel by clicking through to Vimeo and finding him and subscribing there.

00:45:30.34
Chris Olson
If you want to stay up to date with what Mark Hensley is doing as a filmmaker.

00:45:31.95
Brian Penn
Wow.

00:45:35.59
Chris Olson
But yeah, that's all we have for you on Clown and Out. Moving on now, we're going back again in time, would you believe? um With ah an indie feature film called All is Fine in 89.

00:45:47.35
Chris Olson
And fabulously, we have another clip.

00:45:50.81
Brian Penn
wow

00:47:15.89
Chris Olson
Well, there you go.

00:47:17.50
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:47:17.66
Chris Olson
All just fine in 89. Want to take this one, Brian?

00:47:22.35
Brian Penn
Okay. Okay, okay. So we're back in 1989 again, strangely. um And the Berlin Wall, as you just heard in the clip, is coming down. The world is full of optimism as the Cold War seems to be over.

00:47:36.03
Brian Penn
One certain high school, the seniors are waiting for their last field party before graduation. Should be a time to look ahead as the future beckons. But what does fate have in store for them, as this night could have far-reaching consequences?

00:47:51.65
Brian Penn
I really like this. It's the 1980s again. You know, just hearing the soundtrack, that piece of music we heard, and emotion, obsession, great record.

00:48:02.88
Brian Penn
I just feel like putting on ah a jacket with some shoulder pads in it. It's like, I'm back there again.

00:48:07.90
Chris Olson
I was ah was driving in my ah my my podcast room, I must say.

00:48:09.01
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:11.88
Chris Olson
Bang in tune.

00:48:12.13
Brian Penn
yeah um But yeah, look, I really liked it. it It does have shades of the the breakfast club, you know, with its strong sound.

00:48:20.44
Chris Olson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to stop doing this, Brian. You're literally stepping on.

00:48:23.70
Brian Penn
I know, well, have I done it again, have I?

00:48:24.80
Chris Olson
Yeah, you've done it again.

00:48:25.26
Brian Penn
Have I done it again? oh Yeah, I think what's interesting about this is that initially you you could just see it as a typical high school story, right?

00:48:37.22
Brian Penn
um Because you see all all the classic stereotypes. You've got the heartthrob who can shut up honey woman you've got the bully you've got the nerd and you've got the nice girl who meets the wrong guy the hippie teacher who still thinks he's cool you know and they're all familiar stereotypes but then it it kind of jumps it dives in a bit further and it goes a bit deeper and teaches you more about the characters and the lives they leave uh i really liked it and really impressed by it and impressed by the way they use the music as well to tell the story and that's to me that's a trick

00:49:12.76
Brian Penn
that really gathered pace in the 80s. um Filmmakers really got the hang of how music can be harnessed with on the screen with a good story.

00:49:23.84
Brian Penn
um But yeah, really good. Good, strong characterization, one-acted.

00:49:27.76
Chris Olson
Yeah.

00:49:30.25
Brian Penn
Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

00:49:32.37
Chris Olson
Yeah, I think if the previous film paid homage to Tarantino, then this was definitely paying homage to, like, Mark Hughes, me John Hughes movies, know, The Breakfast Club and all that sort of stuff.

00:49:40.46
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:49:43.65
Chris Olson
Yeah, I liked it. I found the... production really slick uh the music in particular was absolutely driving the movie i i was really enjoying that i think yeah as you say the stereotypes are all there and you if you're looking at this through the lens of 2025 you'll see it's a very different interaction between school kids but often we're still seeing the same types of

00:49:52.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, it was.

00:50:12.28
Chris Olson
Challenges, problems, you know, issues that kids have, albeit, you know, there are differences, but some of them are still the same. And I think throwing it up against this kind of Cold War event, you know, the event the end of the Cold War, as yeah as it often feels now we're on the brink of a new one, um that it just is an interesting sort of parallel to draw.

00:50:22.13
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:50:25.13
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:50:29.47
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:50:32.07
Chris Olson
And the fact that even the title was saying all is fine in 89, it's like, well, was it, you know, do or do we all have still had the same problems then that we have now?

00:50:38.11
Brian Penn
Hmm. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

00:50:41.42
Chris Olson
And I think that's kind of quite telling.

00:50:41.48
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:50:44.05
Brian Penn
yeah

00:50:44.61
Chris Olson
The one thing I found with it was it's doing a lot of heavy lifting with lots and lots of different characters, which is always true of like a high school movie. You're going to have that sense of there's lots of people.

00:50:54.85
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:50:55.75
Chris Olson
But I think there was almost there's too much of that going on that I didn't feel particularly connected to any one like person's journey through the film.

00:51:04.27
Brian Penn
yeah

00:51:06.04
Chris Olson
And i don't, I, I enjoyed it. Absolutely. I was, so I was happy to be in this atmosphere of this movie. I just felt like I wanted to be more connected to what was going on with maybe one character.

00:51:14.78
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:51:16.68
Chris Olson
Um, i didn't have that because there's lots of things going on.

00:51:16.94
Brian Penn
Yeah. Hmm.

00:51:20.60
Chris Olson
You've got one character, is's a bit and This might be a bit spoilery. I'm not going to spoilery, but it might be. If you if you don't want to know anything, then just maybe skip ahead a few minutes. But yes, you've one character who's like pregnant.

00:51:31.86
Chris Olson
You've got a teacher who's having marital problems. I'd say you've got someone being bullied, someone... Actually, I'm not going to say that bit because that would be the potential spoiler.

00:51:41.32
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:51:41.42
Chris Olson
do you know what i mean? There's a lot of different characters and you're not quite sure who to root for, who to be sort of you know following, who's going to...

00:51:42.52
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:51:47.43
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:51:49.84
Chris Olson
Obviously, they set it up at the beginning.

00:51:50.18
Brian Penn
yeah

00:51:51.63
Chris Olson
We heard it in that clip with the news broadcast about something, tragedy has happened at school and then we go back to earlier that day and the whole day is like building up to this...

00:51:56.75
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:52:00.98
Chris Olson
legendary party so it works quite well in the sense of you're wondering what's going to happen but I just wanted to be more connected to someone I think

00:52:06.71
Brian Penn
Yeah. they

00:52:10.62
Brian Penn
Yeah. I think that's always the problem with an ensemble piece though, isn't it?

00:52:14.96
Chris Olson
yeah

00:52:15.59
Brian Penn
Is that you're not necessarily going to get a lot depth with the characters, but you have... a number of tantalizing storylines that run concurrently and they kind of ah overlap a kar occasionally and they, they kind of, they're intertwined, but you don't see enough because there simply isn't time and it's a multi-character format.

00:52:38.14
Brian Penn
And that is the weakness of an ensemble piece really is that, is the, the idea that you, you've got one particular character. It's always one character you're more interested in than the others.

00:52:49.52
Brian Penn
Um, And you want to hear more about that one. And you't you never quite do. But it's sometimes the the character depth is sacrificed for more general approach. And that's what you've got here.

00:53:02.97
Brian Penn
But yeah, do I do see what you mean.

00:53:05.31
Chris Olson
Yeah, and it's not that I didn't enjoy it. ah It's more just, I think, you know when you finish a film, going to oh, it would have been nice to have done that or nice to have done that.

00:53:13.55
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:53:13.84
Chris Olson
And to be honest as well, I'd have happily watched more of this. It wasn't that long.

00:53:17.11
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:53:17.29
Chris Olson
Like, oh, yeah, you could have stuck at another 20 minutes and I'd absolutely watch more of that.

00:53:19.74
Brian Penn
and I know. And yeah, I mean, I i would i wouldn't have had any quibbles. mean, often bring up the the running length for a film because i think it is important. But here, i wasn't overly concerned about them running the running time.

00:53:35.20
Brian Penn
And, you know, another 20 minutes, possibly half an hour could have given you time to flesh the characters out a bit more.

00:53:42.51
Chris Olson
Yeah, or or at least just yeah spend more time with them and and it might have even clicked even further.

00:53:42.71
Brian Penn
Hmm.

00:53:45.81
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:53:47.11
Chris Olson
But what I did like ah as well was there's this youthful spirit to the film that felt kind of timeless.

00:53:47.64
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:53:53.24
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:53:55.86
Chris Olson
And I think people anyone watching this, even if you went to school, yeah not in the 80s, before the 80s or after the 80s, I think you're going to connect with this film in a sense of that youthful experience and that they're on the cusp of adulthood.

00:53:56.17
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:54:02.52
Brian Penn
yeah

00:54:09.65
Chris Olson
it's that coming of age trope, you know, that everyone knows about that, that this film has that popular appeal. And because it's done in a way that does feel slick, the production values are great, the soundtrack's great, the costumes are fantastic, that I think it's, you feel like you're watching something far more fascinating than an indie film.

00:54:30.64
Chris Olson
This this felt, i was like, this could easily you know, a Netflix film or or or even at the cinema, would happily watch this.

00:54:35.09
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah. that's like

00:54:37.56
Chris Olson
And I think it would get a great audience because you've got that wide appeal. It's not aiming specifically at any so one genre and it's doing it in a way that is very accessible.

00:54:48.44
Chris Olson
The whole kind of mystery around what is the... terrible thing that's going to happen will also hook you.

00:54:53.69
Brian Penn
yeah

00:54:54.53
Chris Olson
I think that's what hooks because otherwise it's just like a, you know, it feels like it could be an episode of the OC or something, you just something else. It's all just high school kids being high school kids, but because you've got that potential teams, you know, horror thing going on as well, it it ah elevates it slightly above that.

00:55:03.60
Brian Penn
yeah

00:55:07.31
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

00:55:11.04
Chris Olson
So yeah, I think it's, yeah it's got a lot going for it.

00:55:14.16
Brian Penn
yeah Yeah. Definitely has. it's got real potential.

00:55:17.70
Chris Olson
um All is Fine in 89. If you Google it, you will find our review written by Chris Buick, who absolutely loved the film. Spoilers there, he gave it five stars um back in March, end of March.

00:55:25.83
Brian Penn
Yeah. Hmm.

00:55:29.66
Chris Olson
and And he also did a video review of the film. So if you go to that review, go to the bottom, you can hit play. on our YouTube channel is a video of Chris talking about his ah very glowing verdict of the film.

00:55:44.33
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:55:45.69
Chris Olson
And you can also watch that you're on our TikTok channel as well.

00:55:47.46
Brian Penn
So the listeners have got great value then, haven't they, for this review? You've got but but it all covered.

00:55:51.49
Chris Olson
wow you can hear all these different opinions, are all generally positive. Yeah.

00:55:55.04
Brian Penn
All covered. Yeah.

00:55:55.87
Chris Olson
um

00:55:56.20
Brian Penn
Yeah.

00:55:56.61
Chris Olson
So yeah. And the film itself has a Instagram page. So it's at all is fine in 89 or one word there. And we have tagged them in certain things.

00:56:07.30
Chris Olson
so We should be able to find that fairly easily. And I think you said film, you should definitely check out, at least check out, you know what you can of it.

00:56:11.88
Brian Penn
yeah

00:56:14.48
Chris Olson
and Because I think it's going to be one of those ones that we suddenly go, ah right. yeah Yeah. We reviewed that and it's, it's doing really well.

00:56:18.78
Brian Penn
I know, yeah.

00:56:21.08
Chris Olson
um But yeah, that's all is fine at 89. Thank you to the filmmakers there for sending that. Moving on now to another indie film, this one I reviewed, and i actually yeah did a video review of this as well.

00:56:32.11
Brian Penn
Oh, wow.

00:56:32.70
Chris Olson
ah The film is called Retreat, and we're going to play little clip from the movie.

00:57:35.58
Chris Olson
Do you think he did? Do you think Jesus did ABBA?

00:57:38.26
Brian Penn
Well, yeah, I've always been aiming. Yeah, well, fair bet, isn't it, really?

00:57:39.93
Chris Olson
Always be aiming.

00:57:41.99
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:42.97
Chris Olson
Well, yeah legend says that he was.

00:57:43.53
Brian Penn
yeah

00:57:45.45
Chris Olson
um Opinions differ. But yeah, um in the movie Retreat, written and directed by filmmaker Christopher Newbery. The film stars Denise Wilton and Harry Walters, who you heard in that clip.

00:57:57.73
Chris Olson
Mother Jane and her son Jamie. They're on their way to a mindset retreat um in the hopes of finding a happier and more positive life. There's the death in their family a few years earlier and they're hoping to find a better future. But once at the retreat, Jamie meets Sophia, easy kid.

00:58:17.08
Chris Olson
And she is the very much vexed daughter of the host of the retreat. And they both share the same kind of exacerbated outlook on the on the world, and as well as the people they are in the company with. um Whilst escaping from a nappy home may seem idyllic, Jane's wayward behavior and promiscuity embarrass Jamie no end and reveal a darkness in their past, which may come to a head during this weekend getaway.

00:58:45.07
Brian Penn
I have to say, Chris, it surprised me.

00:58:45.21
Chris Olson
What do you think of Retreat, Brian?

00:58:49.94
Brian Penn
You know, what? when you you you start out with this film and set up for it, they're going off to a weekend retreat. It's father and son.

00:59:00.13
Brian Penn
They're trying to reconnect with each other as much as themselves, aren't they?

00:59:03.15
Chris Olson
Mother and son, not father and son.

00:59:05.05
Brian Penn
Did I say father and son? I do apologise. Mother and son.

00:59:07.91
Chris Olson
Freudian slip there, Brian.

00:59:09.05
Brian Penn
Yeah, Freud and son. Sorry about that, yeah. um you've got a mother and son trying to reconnect with each other. They go off to this retreat and for me, you know, you you have a kind of an expectation of,

00:59:20.95
Brian Penn
where the story might go, where you think it's going, then it doesn't. And it delves into what i I think is an engrossive, engrossive engrossing. I don't know what's happening to my words at the moment. um But it dives into something a lot deeper.

00:59:38.17
Brian Penn
It becomes what I think is an impressive psychological thriller. And it fleshes the characters out with real depth. And they become very dynamic. And the relationship between Jamie and Sophie becomes the most telling relationship of all, doesn't it?

00:59:56.75
Brian Penn
Where they're essentially kindred spirits and they find that they both have the same worldview or something very similar. So they one knows knows the other better than they realise.

01:00:08.26
Brian Penn
And it one it winds up to what I feel is a surprising plot twist.

01:00:14.88
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:00:14.90
Brian Penn
But we like plot twists. That's what you kind of expect. um very well done, very dark, very sinister in places. And you've got this kind of counterbalance because you've got the, um, I think it's Candice, isn't it?

01:00:29.74
Brian Penn
The, the host of the hostess of the, of the, the camp, the retreat who's, who's endlessly happy and on the high, hat happy on the high side, you know, and then you've got Jamie who's, who's deeply down for reasons that we won't, uh, delve into.

01:00:34.50
Chris Olson
yeah

01:00:48.46
Brian Penn
um And it's a great contrast between the two. And they're both, they're all searching for something, aren't they? But do they find it? Well, you need to watch it, but it's very good. It's very well executed, well written.

01:01:04.45
Brian Penn
i liked all the actors in it. I think Harry Walters, who played Jamie, was excellent. He had a great sort laid back delivery, up which I really liked. So ah think it's got a hell of lot going for it. And it's,

01:01:19.12
Brian Penn
he Deserves a lot of credit. he Deserves some attention. And I'm so glad we've shined a light on this. Because it is good.

01:01:26.05
Chris Olson
Yeah, this definitely felt like one of those kind of indie horrors, indie thrillers that you kind of go, I'm so lucky to have seen that because yeah it could easily not be something that falls into your path.

01:01:33.13
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:01:36.76
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:01:36.96
Chris Olson
And with Retreat, there is that element of like, again, we can't really spoil it, but it doesn't go the way you think it's going to go. And it doesn't fall the way that you think it might.

01:01:49.27
Chris Olson
The characters are brilliantly written. they there's They're really interesting characters and they're not

01:01:52.10
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:01:55.56
Chris Olson
trying to do too much with them. they They know that, okay, let's keep this because they're already doing something slightly ambitious with the plot that You're not being sidetracked too much.

01:02:07.70
Chris Olson
yeah There's not lots of, okay, all about all this and all that. they They keep it fairly tight through most of it. um yeah obviously Yeah, definitely Harry Walters was great. I also thought Denise Wilton was brilliant.

01:02:18.11
Chris Olson
um I think that's a really fun character to play, the mother Jane, who's just absolutely wayward.

01:02:19.81
Brian Penn
yeah

01:02:24.99
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:02:25.13
Chris Olson
And yeah, Denise Wilton's having a lot of fun with that and just... It is is great to watch. It's so much fun to watch the someone do that.

01:02:33.87
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:02:34.07
Chris Olson
um Yeah, I think... the the movie works on a lot of levels it reminded me i mentioned this in my review it reminded me slightly about of midsummer where you've got that kind of daytime creepiness to it like because it's not it's not trying to scare you with like oh they're walking around at night in the in the camp it's more kind of going you know what there's something weird going on here we don't need to give the night time it's just weird in the daytime and it was like it really was quite quite disturbing

01:02:44.11
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah. yeah

01:02:53.96
Brian Penn
yeah

01:02:56.32
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. ah

01:03:00.94
Brian Penn
Yeah, I think myths i think your sort of analogy with Midsommar Murders is is a good one um because it does have that kind of slightly dark and sinister feel to filter it. Not that you think something's going to happen, but you think it's the countryside.

01:03:15.19
Brian Penn
It just reminds you that where they are is desolate, you know. um So, yeah, it's really good. it's um I was impressed by it.

01:03:25.58
Chris Olson
Yeah, absolutely. um Retreat is one of those films that I hope people can find, but whether they'll be able to, I don't know. i'm Oh, yes, it's you can rent it on Amazon Prime.

01:03:38.54
Chris Olson
There we go.

01:03:38.75
Brian Penn
Oh.

01:03:39.26
Chris Olson
That's nice. We don't always get to to do that. So that's nice to be able to signpost people to that.

01:03:42.08
Brian Penn
Ah, okay.

01:03:44.94
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:03:45.49
Chris Olson
um I think... you probably feel this listeners with some of the films we reviewed tonight because we're not able to go too much into the plot for fear of giving it away.

01:03:55.82
Chris Olson
We're doing our best to sort of skirt around what happens.

01:03:57.45
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:03:59.77
Chris Olson
um

01:04:00.09
Brian Penn
yeah

01:04:00.89
Chris Olson
But honestly, we would love to just go into more details in terms of what happens and and why.

01:04:03.65
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:04:05.76
Chris Olson
But with retreat, it would be absolutely terrible to spoil what happens. So yeah, do find it. yeah Go on Amazon and watch it and tell us what you thought of it.

01:04:13.08
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:04:13.92
Chris Olson
And yeah when you find the... um

01:04:17.10
Brian Penn
Well, I think we we've with all the yeah films we've featured tonight, we've given you enough, we've given the viewers and the listeners enough so to know what it's about and where we think it's going and what what it's worth.

01:04:30.70
Brian Penn
But then the rest of it's up to them, isn't it?

01:04:33.02
Chris Olson
It is up to them. um

01:04:34.29
Brian Penn
and

01:04:35.10
Chris Olson
If you want to hear me talk more about the film, you can go on to the UK Film Review YouTube or TikTok channels and watch my video review. Head to our website, um look for the Retreat... It's just called Retreat, not the Retreat.

01:04:46.32
Chris Olson
Retreat Review. And at the bottom is the trailer, so have a watch at that. The film itself, I say, is available on Amazon, I believe, and... Yeah, the director has a an Instagram profile, Chris K Newbury.

01:05:02.26
Chris Olson
What was it? Newbury with a K.

01:05:04.14
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:05:04.18
Chris Olson
K Newbury. Yeah, no, that must be his middle name. I'm going to guess. K. Carl? Carl? Could be Carl. This isn't important. I'm just just doing it for fun.

01:05:15.23
Chris Olson
um Yeah, Chris K Newbury Instagram page profile. If you want to follow his filmmaking, And, yeah, do check it out if you can, because I think it's really good, really strong.

01:05:27.31
Brian Penn
worth it. Yeah.

01:05:28.67
Chris Olson
In the same kind of, I would say, tone, tonally with Clown and Out, those sort of two films, they've got that gritty kind of disturbing feel to them.

01:05:34.76
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:05:38.00
Chris Olson
And both, yeah know that would make a great double feature, I'd say. Watch those two.

01:05:41.25
Brian Penn
Yeah, actually.

01:05:42.26
Chris Olson
And then on on then on the next night, maybe Sunday night, you watch Time Rewind and All is Fine, because you've got two films

01:05:48.82
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:05:48.90
Chris Olson
you know, period pieces, know, going back in time, you know.

01:05:51.27
Brian Penn
Yeah. They're both based in 89, aren't they? Yeah, you got...

01:05:54.10
Chris Olson
And if you've yeah if that's your vibe, then you know where you're at.

01:05:56.83
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:05:57.25
Chris Olson
Or just watch all of them in one night.

01:05:57.58
Brian Penn
So...

01:05:59.88
Chris Olson
um

01:06:00.81
Brian Penn
So you've given them a ah great choice there.

01:06:03.53
Chris Olson
There you They've got no reason not to do it.

01:06:04.24
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah. Oh.

01:06:05.68
Chris Olson
That's Retreat. We've got one more indie film to review. It's a documentary this time, though, ah called It'll Never Work, directed... by Joe Osborne and mainly starring Hans' uncles, who has very kindly provided us a little promo clip.

01:06:20.66
Chris Olson
It's him talking to us directly, so you can hear from Hans right now.

01:06:22.60
Brian Penn
oh

01:07:45.28
Chris Olson
Well, if the president is listening, actually, I don't know what I'd say.

01:07:49.71
Brian Penn
Yeah, well, I mean...

01:07:51.98
Chris Olson
I'm not going get into I'm not going get into it.

01:07:53.55
Brian Penn
know, I...

01:07:54.54
Chris Olson
um But Taylor Swift, if you're listening, welcome.

01:07:54.56
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:56.74
Chris Olson
um

01:07:57.31
Brian Penn
Where have you been?

01:07:57.80
Chris Olson
Lovely to have you here. ah But yeah, thank you, Hans.

01:08:00.23
Brian Penn
Where have you been, Tyler?

01:08:01.30
Chris Olson
How have you been, tay

01:08:01.35
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:08:02.86
Chris Olson
Send us ah and there's a message. ah But yeah, lovely to hear from Hansette. And he he did a lot of explaining about what the film is, which is great.

01:08:10.83
Brian Penn
yeah

01:08:10.90
Chris Olson
ah Documentary called It Will Never Work. And It's all about the struggles and challenges that Hans faces attempting to convert a petrol, no diesel boat into an electric boat and it's not so much the actual physical transformation of the boat that is challenging, it's actually all of the bureaucracy and administration around it ah in order to do something which realistically should be fairly simple, you know, trying to do something better for the environment, go more green, which they're always telling us to do and the documentary is his journey through all of that red tape.

01:08:51.04
Chris Olson
What did you think of It Will Never Work, Brian?

01:08:53.89
Brian Penn
Well, the first thing I say is I'm not sure it's got the right title. It's very negative because he's

01:09:01.70
Chris Olson
He's not at all, is he?

01:09:02.87
Brian Penn
No, exactly. This is why I'm saying it's got the wrong title. I really liked it. I think Hans' uncle is incredibly likable as a character. You kind of root for him all the way through because bottom line is, what's he trying to achieve? He's trying to build a better life for himself, but he's trying to develop a new way of working for the fishing industry, right?

01:09:24.39
Brian Penn
He's trying to prove that the industry can be sustainable on more than one level, right? And he's saying, look, We can build an electric boat. It can work on solar power.

01:09:35.45
Brian Penn
Better for the environment. Better for the industry. And you're just rooting for him from day one. Now, I don't have a clue what goes into retrofitting a boat that works on diesel and putting an engine in to make sure it works by battery.

01:09:53.06
Brian Penn
But you buy into it. You're completely invested in it. you know And it it's the kind of thing yeah i would watch, and I mean this as a compliment, kind of thing I would watch on a Sunday afternoon. I'd sit down with a cup of tea and a bit of toast.

01:10:06.58
Brian Penn
I want to watch something comforting and hopeful and positive. And this is kind of it, right? And yes, you' you're right about the bureaucracy. well All the hoops he has to go through.

01:10:19.27
Chris Olson
Thank you.

01:10:20.10
Brian Penn
The fact that he's looking for a grant, he's looking for funding and that he's risking his own savings, hoping that the grant's going to come through. He needs to get clearance from ah the compliance authorities, the Maritime and Coast Guard Agency needs to approve oh what he's done.

01:10:37.95
Brian Penn
And every step of the way, you're kind of, you're part it, you're feeling it and you're living it and you think, God, i hope he does it. Because bottom line is he's such a nice guy, of the earth.

01:10:48.93
Brian Penn
You know, he he's the the c type of person you would like to meet in the pub and buy him a beer and say, well done, because you've done something really worthwhile.

01:10:58.96
Chris Olson
Yeah, I 100% agree with that. As you say, it's not a criticism to say that it it's got a likeness to it that you can enjoy in in that environment. yeah It felt at times more televisual to me than cinematic.

01:11:14.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, I think so.

01:11:15.27
Chris Olson
It felt more like it was something you could watch, as you say, on a small screen.

01:11:16.14
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:11:21.54
Chris Olson
That being said...

01:11:21.63
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:11:23.17
Chris Olson
There are some some good shots of the the coast and and obviously where it is is a beautiful setting. I wanted more of that. I think I said this in my review. wanted more of...

01:11:32.06
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:11:33.64
Chris Olson
at sea. I think there is a lot of footage. Maybe it was making a point. yeah i think it was making a point saying how much of that journey actually was nothing to do with the boat. It was to do with the paperwork around it.

01:11:44.93
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:11:45.66
Chris Olson
But from a audience perspective, it felt a little bit um tedious at times when you're having to look at all that paperwork. Yeah, I get it.

01:11:52.88
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:11:53.24
Chris Olson
I get it. But it'd be nice to sort of go back to the boat, right? And you go and look around some of the islands and or yeah around the coast because it's more visually pleasing.

01:11:55.58
Brian Penn
Yeah. more arresting, isn't it?

01:12:02.32
Chris Olson
um

01:12:02.59
Brian Penn
yeah more arresting isn't it

01:12:04.62
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:12:05.14
Brian Penn
you know You can only so look at the inside of a workshop for so long, can't you, as well?

01:12:10.01
Chris Olson
There was a lot of that. There was a lot of yeah things.

01:12:11.27
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:12:12.01
Chris Olson
And some of it is really interesting. you know Just like, yo okay, well, yeah they don't need the engine now, so where are they going to put this?

01:12:15.21
Brian Penn
Yeah, of course it is. Yeah.

01:12:18.35
Chris Olson
But then they're like, okay, yeah, but yeah you've got all these problems with

01:12:18.62
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:12:21.84
Chris Olson
but what if water gets in here or whatever it's it's it's at yeah that stuff is good i think the um i just would have happily had more of the sort of scenic shots that could have been there but as it is as you say it's a very enjoyable um documentary not least because of han's uncles and also some of the other characters around there like you know like his family and friends that are helping him

01:12:24.16
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:12:44.09
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:12:46.74
Chris Olson
um you know they're all there was a great scene where he's playing music and it's actually part of the soundtrack you he's playing some music something on the accordion or something that's gonna yeah and that was great you know stuff like that really adds a lovely charm and warmth to the movie and to the documentary and I think that that's something that will appeal to a lot of audiences probably

01:12:46.81
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:12:54.96
Brian Penn
You called in. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:00.34
Brian Penn
Yeah. yeah Yeah, it does. Hmm.

01:13:09.24
Chris Olson
older audiences more than younger people.

01:13:11.05
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:13:11.40
Chris Olson
you know, anyone can get a kick out of this, especially if you do have an interest in greener technology, boats in particular.

01:13:11.84
Brian Penn
Fair to say, I think. Yeah.

01:13:21.22
Chris Olson
this um This is great for it. And as you say, it's something that he's doing that makes you want to buy him a beer. You want him to go, yeah yeah, well done, mate, good job, you especially going through all that.

01:13:28.26
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:31.23
Chris Olson
And he says, even in the documentary, saying...

01:13:31.48
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:13:34.20
Chris Olson
he could just not do it, right? He's not, he doesn't have to do it, but he's almost trying to pave the way for other people to do it It's actually a bit of a shame you mentioned in his little audio clip there that it's not happened by the sounds of it, that there is still the only one.

01:13:36.70
Brian Penn
Well, yeah, yeah.

01:13:46.32
Brian Penn
well Yeah. yeah

01:13:48.96
Chris Olson
and Although in the documentary, he mentioned that there are other people with the same technology being used. I think it's just different types of boats, right, or different types of vessels.

01:13:57.03
Brian Penn
yeah

01:13:59.42
Chris Olson
So I think it's great that things are going in that way.

01:13:59.46
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:14:02.13
Chris Olson
But what's really poignant about the documentary is the fact that for all the talk, all the political spiel about how we all need to be greener and we need to have these initiatives, when someone tries to do it, they throw up all these blockades.

01:14:11.90
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:14:16.45
Chris Olson
you know They stop them, you make it very, very difficult, very, very expensive for anyone to even do it.

01:14:21.60
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:14:22.04
Chris Olson
And a lot of it is actually just unnecessary. It's just things are just, okay, well, yeah yeah, but there's no classification for this.

01:14:24.30
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:14:27.48
Chris Olson
It's like, okay, yeah, but just just create one.

01:14:27.80
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:14:29.04
Chris Olson
you don't to Someone shouldn't have to spend thousands of pounds for you to make it you know possible for them to do this.

01:14:34.97
Brian Penn
it's so

01:14:35.06
Chris Olson
Bonkers.

01:14:35.81
Brian Penn
yeah It's always the way, isn't

01:14:38.39
Chris Olson
Make it the money.

01:14:40.58
Brian Penn
it? There's always got to be ah ah standard ah criteria that you need you need to satisfy somewhere. you know And that's one um one one of the last great annoyances, isn't it? Is that you need to tick boxes, continually tick boxes.

01:14:59.93
Chris Olson
Box ticking. Well, I also do, yeah, you mentioned about the film's title.

01:15:01.13
Brian Penn
yeah

01:15:05.85
Chris Olson
What would you change it to though, Brian? Have you thought about it so are you just throwing, you throwing things around though?

01:15:07.58
Brian Penn
Oh, do you know what? That is such a good question that I can't answer. and

01:15:13.73
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:15:14.31
Brian Penn
I know it's not right. You want something a bit more, oh, I don't know, a bit more hopeful because is ah hopeful thing. It is a positive thing.

01:15:25.73
Brian Penn
What about positivity even?

01:15:28.31
Chris Olson
Well, it's a bit bit cliche, bit on the nose there, but I can't think of a better one at the moment. But, you listeners, send us your out your ideas.

01:15:35.69
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:15:35.98
Chris Olson
yeah You can rent the film on Amazon Prime, so go rent it.

01:15:36.93
Brian Penn
Yeah. All right.

01:15:40.55
Chris Olson
See you think? Or just based the name of what we've said. you know just just didn't hear What's that? I will be honest, I love a pun. And there are so many puns around this. you know Fish, boats, green energy, whatever.

01:15:52.89
Chris Olson
Give me your best pun one.

01:15:54.05
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:15:54.12
Chris Olson
yeah Send it in because I will love to hear them. I don't know if the filmmakers will enjoy it, but... we'll Maybe we'll read the best ones out on the next episode.

01:16:00.90
Brian Penn
but We will. Yeah, we'll read the best ones out. Yeah. Yeah.

01:16:05.60
Chris Olson
Yeah, so that that's homework.

01:16:05.80
Brian Penn
Yeah, come on, let's do it. Yeah.

01:16:07.48
Chris Olson
We don't often set homework for listeners of Film Club.

01:16:08.73
Brian Penn
No.

01:16:09.89
Chris Olson
Even though it sounds like we should, we don't.

01:16:10.00
Brian Penn
No. Yeah.

01:16:12.04
Chris Olson
um But yeah, do send us that.

01:16:14.94
Brian Penn
Yeah, definitely.

01:16:15.05
Chris Olson
ah The film... has been reviewed on the website by me so you can go and read what I've said if you like it's generally what I've said to Brian um but maybe I said something more eloquent because maybe i wasn't doing off the cuff like I am here and you can also watch the trailer

01:16:24.07
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:16:31.32
Chris Olson
So that is available on the review page. You can follow the film, I believe, on Instagram at It Will Never Work. There is, I believe, a Facebook page. But yeah, Instagram and they're all kind of linked, aren't they?

01:16:43.20
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:16:43.26
Chris Olson
And as I say, the film is available to rent on Amazon. So yeah, have a little watch. It's perfect for an Amazon viewing, actually. you don't I don't think you necessarily need to see this in a cinema.

01:16:50.29
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:16:52.66
Chris Olson
But yeah if you've got one of those local screenings that you can go to or you've already been to one, as Han said, they did really well, then let us know. Let us know what you thought. um Moving on, lastly, to our nostalgia pick.

01:17:06.70
Chris Olson
So this is a film from the past.

01:17:07.22
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:17:10.15
Chris Olson
Brian, I've done it again. I've gone with 1995. I keep getting films from 1995 and

01:17:15.30
Brian Penn
well What is it about 95 then, Chris, in particular?

01:17:17.55
Chris Olson
so well it's 30 years ago and I just often that make that scares me to death that that has gone so quickly ah absolutely frightening this one I did pick for two reasons one it has Bobby in it it's got Bobby De Niro in it um alongside al Pacino so the second reason though is it's one of those films that you have to go back and watch again and and you have to find time for it again because it is

01:17:22.01
Brian Penn
ah know. Yeah. It's frightening, isn't it, really?

01:17:32.99
Brian Penn
It's got Bob, yeah.

01:17:37.64
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:17:47.93
Chris Olson
One of the best films ever made. It is so good, in my opinion. But we'll hear what Brian thinks in a second. If you haven't guessed it already, it's Michael Mann's Heat. um It's also due for a remake, I believe.

01:17:57.96
Chris Olson
Oh, not remake, a a sequel, right? They're doing another one.

01:18:00.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, apparently. Yeah.

01:18:01.47
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:18:02.06
Brian Penn
Yeah, so I hear.

01:18:02.45
Chris Olson
Which I'm fine with, but I don't think you can touch the original here. I just don't think it'll be possible.

01:18:09.00
Brian Penn
Oh,

01:18:10.58
Chris Olson
Um...

01:18:11.28
Brian Penn
don't know I don't know. yeah

01:18:13.54
Chris Olson
If you haven't seen it, I mean, Brian, in a nutshell, what how would you describe the plot of Heat?

01:18:20.12
Brian Penn
ah well, it's cops and robbers, really, isn't it?

01:18:23.89
Chris Olson
There you go. That's it.

01:18:24.60
Brian Penn
But, ah yeah, you could leave it at that, literally, couldn't you, Reid?

01:18:24.71
Chris Olson
now I think you could you could do just do with that, couldn't you?

01:18:29.03
Brian Penn
But it goes a lot deeper than that. You know, um it's not sort of saying we're not so we're not just talking about good guys and bad guys here. We're talking about the people they are, their relationships, their families, their partners, their lives, their and how they're affected by the jobs they do.

01:18:52.69
Brian Penn
right um And it all it all leads up to, well, there are two standouts.

01:18:57.79
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:19:00.16
Brian Penn
I mean, I think it's a modern classic, by the way. It is one of the greatest films ever ever made. Michael Mann was at his very best.

01:19:07.08
Chris Olson
yeah

01:19:07.15
Brian Penn
I don't think he's done anything better than he. It's fantastic. And you don't want it to end, you know, and the fact that they're, they're contemplating a sequel.

01:19:19.76
Brian Penn
It brings to mind ah ah description applied to Godfather Part III by Nathan, who's a reviewer on Empire magazine.

01:19:31.00
Brian Penn
And he said, the problem with with ah Godfather Part III is that you crave it, but you don't want it. And that is going to be the problem with the sequel to Heat.

01:19:42.15
Brian Penn
You crave it, but you don't want it. you you what you want to see more, but you don't want the legend to be tarnished in any way. Because it's a masterpiece.

01:19:49.96
Chris Olson
yeah

01:19:52.04
Brian Penn
And there were two standouts for me in the film. It's obviously when when ah Pacino and De Niro meet on screen for the first time.

01:19:59.35
Chris Olson
the dynainene The classic diner scene.

01:20:01.24
Brian Penn
The dynasty. There's that scene and also the shootout, which I think is it's incredible.

01:20:04.83
Chris Olson
Oh, that shootout was so loud, wasn't it?

01:20:08.53
Brian Penn
Absolutely incredible. You know?

01:20:10.53
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:20:11.18
Brian Penn
um And, you know, it's not just, i mean, you've got, um, you've got, you've got De Niro and Pacino, obviously, but you've also got Val Kilmer, God rest him, uh, John, John Voight, Ashley Judd, and a fabulous supporting cast.

01:20:23.50
Chris Olson
Yeah, NRIP.

01:20:32.18
Brian Penn
But, you know, in some ways you think you've got a great cast like that, but you've also got De Niro and Pacino as well. And, um it's an historic moment, isn't it?

01:20:40.94
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:20:42.02
Brian Penn
The dynasty is an historic moment. And what I think is particularly interesting about that scene is that they don't have a lot of dialogue particularly. You know, they don't pack it with a lot of dialogue, which would have been tempting to do that.

01:20:55.31
Brian Penn
But they kind of joust with each other quietly, don't they?

01:20:58.91
Chris Olson
yeah

01:20:59.32
Brian Penn
But, you know, and I think it's a classic moment in the in the movies generally. And a great film, just a great film.

01:21:09.98
Chris Olson
And earlier we were talking about G20, it's an action movie through and through, leave your brain at the door movie. Whereas that he shows what an action movie can be.

01:21:20.42
Chris Olson
Like this can be, like say, modern classic, where yes, the action scenes in this film are still, even now, incredible. right You watch them and just think, wow, that's so well filmed.

01:21:33.44
Brian Penn
um

01:21:33.88
Chris Olson
it Funnily enough, to um there's the heist scene. with the trucks and things. And it reminded me of like how Nolan made the Batman films.

01:21:39.47
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:21:42.69
Chris Olson
Like I feel that they were inspired by heat.

01:21:43.33
Brian Penn
What? Right, yeah.

01:21:45.84
Chris Olson
You you've got that gritty brutalism to them and it just felt like visceral when you're watching it.

01:21:49.85
Brian Penn
Mm.

01:21:52.60
Chris Olson
um But then you've also got not just those action scenes, you've got some really poignant drama going on.

01:21:58.20
Brian Penn
Mm.

01:21:58.41
Chris Olson
know, you've got the character, De Niro's character, who seems the whole title is around the idea of like, you know, if the heat is on, yeah you need be able walk away from your life within 30 seconds.

01:22:09.19
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:10.35
Chris Olson
And his whole character is so detached from anyone and he's so kind of just ready to leave at any moment.

01:22:10.35
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:18.17
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:18.59
Chris Olson
And it's how that has impacted him, you know, his happiness.

01:22:20.29
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:21.47
Chris Olson
And then you've got Pacino's character who's sort of similarly so invested in his job. He can't, you know, can't leave it alone.

01:22:27.58
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:29.43
Chris Olson
And there's all that going on. It's it's got lovely undercurrents of human drama,

01:22:34.53
Brian Penn
and yeah

01:22:35.56
Chris Olson
But you're you you're being presented this through incredible scenes of action.

01:22:41.19
Brian Penn
yeah

01:22:41.24
Chris Olson
It's just, and as you say, know, any movie where you get some people like John Voight and Val Kilmer being, you know, absolutely put in the shadow by these two leads that just dominate.

01:22:42.42
Brian Penn
and

01:22:49.49
Brian Penn
Yeah, I know. Yeah.

01:22:52.80
Chris Olson
It is, in the the casting of this film is incredible.

01:22:53.31
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:22:56.06
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I know. You can't force it. You cannot force it. It's difficult. You see, what I think brilliant, though, and this this shows what a great director Michael Mann is, is that the the action, you might look upon it as an action movie.

01:23:10.44
Brian Penn
And I don't think it's just an action movie by itself, right? It's a great study. It's a human study of motivation, the human conditions. what drives and motivates people to do the things they do.

01:23:22.49
Brian Penn
And he's quite happy to break up the action with long passages where he delves into the characters more. But you kind of you don't sort of necessarily miss the action when he's doing that, but because you you get so engrossed in the characters.

01:23:37.22
Brian Penn
But then when the action arrives again, you think, oh, great, right, we've got some we got some visuals to ah to look at now. And it's just amazing. I mean, another great scene that springs to mind Tom Sizemore, terrific actor as well.

01:23:52.51
Brian Penn
during During the shootout, when he picks the kid up and he e eyeballs Pacino, what a brilliant thing that is

01:23:55.92
Chris Olson
Yeah.

01:24:01.80
Brian Penn
you know so so For someone like Pacino's character to stay that calm and focused on what he needs to do. um you you run i i run out of superlatives for a film like he. I've not watched it in in a fair number of years.

01:24:18.94
Brian Penn
But it seemed very fresh to me as well.

01:24:22.29
Chris Olson
Yeah, it's this is absolutely compulsory viewing heat. i think anyone who's a fan of cinema yeah has to make time for it. And you can by watching on Disney. Disney Plus, it's on there right now.

01:24:34.76
Chris Olson
um I'm not going to mention the other platform that we seem to have mentioned loads on this show um because, to be honest, they don't pay us to. So I'm not going

01:24:41.41
Brian Penn
I know. I know.

01:24:42.54
Chris Olson
No, none of them pay us.

01:24:42.57
Brian Penn
and i but but

01:24:44.14
Chris Olson
Not yet.

01:24:44.45
Brian Penn
But if they did, no worries. well

01:24:46.78
Chris Olson
If they did, i would I'd spell out their name, you know,

01:24:47.78
Brian Penn
and wor Yeah, exactly.

01:24:50.89
Chris Olson
on my, ah I'd get a tattoo. No, and that's not true. i No, I wouldn't do that. But yeah, or or a cap, know, because this is an audio based podcast anyway, so it wouldn't matter.

01:24:55.37
Brian Penn
we might wear We might wear T-shirts with it on. Let's say that. Yeah. Yeah.

01:25:02.63
Chris Olson
um

01:25:02.67
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:25:03.28
Chris Olson
But yeah, he is available on Disney and it was a tie in because Bobby is in the Alto Knights. So I wanted to make sure that we sort of did that. And also I just love going back to 995. That might just be the theme of the nostalgia picks this year.

01:25:14.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, it could be.

01:25:15.39
Chris Olson
Any film that came out 30 years ago.

01:25:16.04
Brian Penn
Yeah, I'm... I'll have to try and work out what film from 1995 you're going to pick for the next one now.

01:25:21.46
Chris Olson
Yeah, see if you can work it out. um Alongside working out a new title for It'll Never Work, you know, a pun-infested one.

01:25:27.14
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:25:28.95
Chris Olson
yeah By the way, we're happy with that title, by the way. Hans, don't listen to us.

01:25:32.85
Brian Penn
Yeah, I know.

01:25:33.09
Chris Olson
yeah It's a great title.

01:25:33.41
Brian Penn
it's It's just, we're just joshing, aren't we, really?

01:25:34.41
Chris Olson
We're just We're joshing. We're being we're being picky.

01:25:37.26
Brian Penn
Yeah. Yeah.

01:25:38.43
Chris Olson
um But yeah, thank you if you've made it to the end of this episode. I know not all of you do. And to those people, you are dead to me. um But to those people who've made it to the end, thank you so much.

01:25:49.08
Chris Olson
It's been it's been a journey through many films. I think 10 films-ish on this episode.

01:25:53.36
Brian Penn
Same films, yeah. Yeah.

01:25:55.60
Chris Olson
which is, that's about as much as we do, guys, all right, and girls and everyone in between.

01:25:58.56
Brian Penn
Hmm.

01:26:00.16
Chris Olson
That's about as far as me and Brian can handle. So thank you to all the indie filmmakers for sending their films and their clips.

01:26:02.87
Brian Penn
Oh my...

01:26:06.47
Chris Olson
It's great being able to play a clip as well. If you've enjoyed like the sound of any of those movies, head to our website, read the reviews, and drop a comment on our post when we post about them because the filmmakers love to see it.

01:26:08.79
Brian Penn
Yep.

01:26:19.16
Chris Olson
They also love to know that other people have watched them, not just us.

01:26:21.86
Brian Penn
A

01:26:22.89
Chris Olson
We'll be back in May with another episode, hopefully. And in the meantime, just want to say a big thank you to Brian for watching all those movies.

01:26:30.95
Brian Penn
ah pleasure as always.

01:26:31.32
Chris Olson
Thank you, Brian. ah Thank you to the listeners and to the filmmakers. Yeah, this has been UK Film Club. We'll see you again next time.

01:26:39.32
Brian Penn
bye for now.