Bob Marley: One Love - Wicked Little Letters - Spaceman - UK Film Club Episode 13

00:00.00
Brian Penn
No no, it's barely a month ago it's not really just about. You know we're kind of in asride now aren't we really have you been? You're right good I know I know it's springtime isn't it. The days are getting longer.

00:05.86
ukfilmreview
Yeah, generally been fine. The weather's picking up so that's always good.

00:17.13
Brian Penn
Easter's coming that means we can scuff loads of chocolate. So you know it's a win. It's a win-win really isn't it and.

00:18.61
ukfilmreview
Thank goodness. Um I mean I don't job because Easter films are not really a thing right? I don't think there's really many Easter films I Think there's like a few because I well I suppose it's.

00:30.90
Brian Penn
No no.

00:35.75
ukfilmreview
It's probably some religious ones which I I don't imbibe but I think it's a few about rabbits like hop and Peter Rabbit and stuff. But it's not really a genre is it. You really have easter films.

00:37.45
Brian Penn
Yeah, well yeah, yeah, no no I mean I think there there're probably a number of films set around easter but it's not It's not kind of an integral part of the film. You know there was a film back in the 1940 s called east of grade which was very little to do with the season itself. It was more just ah, a place to land the the plot on the characters. You know? So it's it's not a genre like to say Christmas films are for example.

01:04.82
ukfilmreview
Um, blue.

01:09.73
Brian Penn
You know that I pun careful will be will it what it really.

01:12.79
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it was like Christmas Halloween yeah, all those ones Valentine's day like there's you the seasonal ones. But I think East Is East is one of those ones where I it's ah it's an odd holiday. It's a very odd holiday because for the kids it's all about the chocolate.

01:18.38
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:26.29
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh course? Yeah yeah, no, no, it doesn't I mean but it.

01:30.26
ukfilmreview
And then if you're religious. Yeah, ah, it's a big important message. It should be It should be as important right? Yeah in terms of what it's talking about but it just doesn't feel like it has the same weight.

01:43.91
Brian Penn
But it in the u kind at least it does mean the longest bank all it doesn'st it because you got a good Friday and you got easter Monday so you got a four day Bri haven't you really just for the UK of course you know a course? Yeah, and yeah, and probably well. Yeah.

01:50.40
ukfilmreview
And it's yeah and it's what Jesus would have wanted really you know more time to sit at home eat chocolate and and watch movies that are not about easter.

02:02.34
Brian Penn
Or maybe watch films about the resurrection about the you know the Jesuss and Azareth and you know all those great sort of minieries that were used to be on. That's what used to used to be about you'd always see something wouldn't you about Jesuss and the the resurrection but you know.

02:21.16
ukfilmreview
So I'm thinking there's probably more films about chocolate than there is about Easter yeah, if you have right? You got the willy wonkers. Yeah, there's a few of those um is that film chocola that was ah a few years back but yeah that was all right? Yeah, um.

02:21.30
Brian Penn
Some Yeah yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, oh oh yeah, yeah I forgot about that one? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:38.39
ukfilmreview
Actually I'm already out I'm already out of chocolate based films. Well technically really won clear. There's like 3 of those films now right? So that's yeah, if you're gonna embard on all of those. But yeah, so too if you if you don't like the Willy Waka stuff ah but yeah.

02:39.17
Brian Penn
So well you got as far as 2 which I think is quite an achievement really right? Okay, yeah.

02:52.29
Brian Penn
Yeah, well if any if anyone listening knows about other films that we haven't thought about well let us know exactly? Yeah yeah, particularly particularly the chocolate ones as well. Yeah.

02:58.48
ukfilmreview
Yes, your chocolate or easter based films. Please send them in. It's very important. Yes, yes because um, it's making me hungry already. We only only 3 minutes in I'm actually it's fine. Um, so this is your first time to Uk Film Club yes

03:10.87
Brian Penn
And I and I and I.

03:17.93
ukfilmreview
This is the type of banter that you can expect. Um, it's it's it's 2 old boys just having a chat about movies. But we do cover a massive range so whilst we couldn't think of many chocolate based films. We will be reviewing films that are at the cinema we'll be reviewing films that are on streaming.

03:18.64
Brian Penn
Oh yes, oh yes.

03:37.82
ukfilmreview
We'll be reviewing independent films. So that's like short and endy features and we'll be doing a throwback nostalgic review of a film from the past and um, yes, all of that.

03:45.32
Brian Penn
Hi.

03:50.24
ukfilmreview
Within 1 episode of a podcast I mean and it's free I can't I can't believe this you're getting to listen to this just for free. You lucky things you lucky dogs.

03:55.61
Brian Penn
Yeah, fantastic I know I know fantastic value really is the all for nothing. You know? yeah.

04:03.88
ukfilmreview
Fantastic value. Yeah um I mean it's a massive lineup and oh and also in this show because here we are recording um, not long after the Oscars we're going to do a quick.

04:10.27
Brian Penn
So yeah I.

04:16.44
Brian Penn
Um, yes, yep.

04:17.14
ukfilmreview
Ah, chat about that Brian has seen quite a lot of the Oscar movies I haven't um I've only seen a few I think but we will just get Brian's thoughts on the winners and whether they deserved it um because the gay actually podcast which is another show part of the Uk film of your podcast. They.

04:22.35
Brian Penn
Oh a a yeah.

04:36.57
ukfilmreview
Teamed up with Phantom Zone and did a big huge episode covering all the winners. So if you are a big fan of the oscars and want to go into that I recommend that episode. It's very very funny um hearing Ian constantly lose himself about Christopher Nolan is always worth.

04:40.19
Brian Penn
Oh Wow yeah.

04:54.22
Brian Penn
Ah, ah, he he still hasn't recovered does he really he still not come to terms a it was he really with crystal.

04:55.28
ukfilmreview
Checking in for um, yeah, he he's not happy here. What's what's funny about it is Ian's getting bolder and bolder with his like. Anti Nolan rhetoric. It's now starting to become kind of yeah maybe he's going to become a bit of a cult leader because there is a bit of a Nolan backlash. You know people are sort of questioning whether he should get all theselaudits I think I think Ian will be their leader. Um.

05:07.45
Brian Penn
I Yeah I Yeah I won't be surprised I wouldn't be surprised.

05:22.27
ukfilmreview
I won't be surprised if I end up in front of the police and they say so why didn't you question him? Yeah, when he was like this I but look I ah barely knew the guy at the time. But yeah, he's a lovely sweet guy loves movies. He just was a bit of a harmless nerd. That's what I thought um, but yeah, got to be careful, especially Roundy and.

05:30.00
Brian Penn
Ah, and I know and I.

05:37.10
Brian Penn
Ah, you got to be careful. Um, yeah, you just gotta be careful. You never know? Yeah yeah, oh yes.

05:41.96
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah, do do check out that episode is very very funny. Um, so we're going to the Cinema releases now these are movies that should be in the cinema If you're listening right away as soon as the episode comes out if you're listening in the future probably not and um, hello to the future but do do.

05:52.68
Brian Penn
Easiest.

06:00.39
ukfilmreview
Check out the movies wherever they have landed by that point but they are big films so you should be able to find them on the top stream platforms. We're going to start off with an absolute musical icon Bob Marley's one love or he didn't make it though right? This isn't his film.

06:03.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

06:18.48
Brian Penn
Ah, well I mean Bob Marley 1 love um, directed by Renaldo Marcus Green starring Kingsley Ben adeer James Norton and Les Shana Lynch now the plot lands in the mid 70 s when. Mali has ascended to superstarton as reggae's poster boy Chris Blackwell signed into his iron record label but it's increasingly vexed by Marley's political activism Jamaica is a cordron of political instability and riven by crime Mali plans a concert to bring the people together. However, his enemies are quietly gathering. He moves to the relative safety of London where he enters the most fruitful phase of his recording career. He releases the exodus album and plays a series of legendary concerts culminating at the rainbow in North London however hangers on or exploiting Marley's popularity his long-suffering wife Rita. Bemoans his ignorance and chronic infidelity now all up up. Molly I love ra guy. Um I remember him well when I was growing up. The songs are brilliant ah reminds me of childhood as to say the portrao of London in the 70 s felt all thin sick and was a reminder of. What was a period of great social and political change. But for me personally as much as I enjoyed the music as much as I ah love the man himself. It all feels a bit too safe various members of his family were involved in the production and because of that it glows a little bit too much after all, no, 1 ne's perfect

07:50.99
Brian Penn
But good fun to watch a good introduction to Bob Marley's music if you're not familiar with it. But it also gives you some idea of the political impacts he had particularly in Jamaica but a good film. A good solid effort and.

08:05.14
ukfilmreview
It's funny with musical biopics isn't it because I think there is a big massive expectation if it's ah such a iconic figure like Bob Marley and we've seen really good ones like we we are talking about Elvis in a previous episode and I thought that was really good. Um.

08:11.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

08:16.96
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

08:22.40
ukfilmreview
But I always think as well. There's a sense of danger when they're either going to yeah veer too much into the myth and you know you sort of Miss out on that real authentic story or they're going to veer.

08:30.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

08:37.30
ukfilmreview
The other way which is sort of like oh they're going to go so random that you don't feel like he was served well or she was served Well yeah that that way it feels like this kind of plucks in the middle. Um and kind of maybe just went sort of yeah, not not offend anyone and just sort of make something that yeah like you say did a halffecent job and and.

08:41.11
Brian Penn
So yeah, that does.

08:53.31
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, ah yeah, a lot I mean look if you were making a film about somebody close to you for example about a close relative close friend. It is. It's going to be positive overall isn't that the picture you paint is going to be positive.

08:55.91
ukfilmreview
Is entertaining at least.

09:09.30
ukfilmreview
And.

09:10.96
Brian Penn
But on the basis that you you realize that everyone has as a downside. There's a downside to and an upside to everyone in life. You know and you're right? It is a very difficult balancing act because you want to paint ah an authentic picture. A true picture of that person and that representation you you went up. There has got to be faithful. Got ah, it's got to give you the the ups and the downs and I think you only alluded there isn't there's nothing particularly sinister about Marley's life not I know of but I think it's important to have a balanced view and portraying Watson. All you know, but I'm very wellmade film I really enjoyed it. You know. As I say if you're a reg fan if you love this music. You'll love this film because you won't really want that much more out of it because you just want to be entertained. You want to listen to the man's music. But you know it's it's a good film. It's a good solid film but you know there is always thatvo so with any with any biopic that. You know is it going to be balanced. So are you going to get a true view view because you don't you don't want it to be too critical either. You don't want want to sling mud at someone's reputation just for the sake of it so you got to get the balance right? But I think they did a reasonable job with this.

10:17.84
ukfilmreview
Yeah, there you go Bob Marley won love let's know if you have seen it and what you thought um, a couple of people have sort of mentioned to me that they found it a bit sterile. They sort of said it didn't really.

10:26.60
Brian Penn
But.

10:34.50
Brian Penn
No it. Yeah.

10:34.91
ukfilmreview
Dig that deep and try to sort of yeah Surface skim his like political side and the the music I think the I say it depends on the outcome that they wanted as well because for some people they might be thinking actually this is going to be more of a.

10:52.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

10:53.31
ukfilmreview
Record of his music and yeah, they wanted that. Yeah, they didn't want to go into that other side of things and yeah, there's there's reasons that people make films and there's stories that they want to tell and parts of that that they want to leave out so it's not for us to decide.

11:00.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, right? And also you can't please everyone can you as well. So there's always going to be that side of it that it's never going to be good enough for some people. It's no, it's never going to pick out. The bits of his life that people want want to know more about you know? So yeah star ohll is a good way of describing it. It's a very clean safe portrait of Moley but you know it's all by I mean we got the biopic of Amy Winehouse coming out next next month as well. Um.

11:34.56
ukfilmreview
And.

11:37.33
Brian Penn
Likes are black. Can it be interesting to see how they portray her you know, just.

11:41.13
ukfilmreview
Yeah I saw the um the documentary for her that was really good. That was a ah lot a while back? Um, so yeah I've interested to see what they do there. But yeah Bob Marley one love currently at cinemas. But I doubt it'll be there for much longer.

11:46.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:54.44
Brian Penn
I No probably not. It won't have a long long run or to thought but you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:58.46
ukfilmreview
No, that's not what you think I mean you know you can't help but when you talk about Bob Marley you just immediately start singing his songs in your head I'm all already I've got easy skankking going around in my head right now.

12:09.59
Brian Penn
But well yeah I know but you see the thing is that that's that you evokes so many feelings and memories and for me, it's it's waiting in vain and stir it up. It's the or um, get up standup get up Standup was was featured in the film that is such a great song.

12:16.55
ukfilmreview
Um, and.

12:22.57
ukfilmreview
Oh that's a tune the very first time I heard one of his songs in a film was in the beach and they played rendition redemption song sorry when there's a bit of a burial scene and they played it on the guitar. My dad said to me oh that's prop Marley and also.

12:27.35
Brian Penn
You know, really is ah.

12:35.84
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah.

12:39.13
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, course. Yeah yes.

12:41.79
ukfilmreview
Oh yeah, suddenly obviously a name that you'd heard loads suddenly like hearing a song and yeah, that was quite early on and when I sort of started to listen to Bob Marley's records. Yeah I saw it in the trailer I was okay yeah, that's um I've seen that before obviously. But yeah, ah, lovely stuff.

12:51.24
Brian Penn
I Yeah and um Redemption song is featured in the film as well. So yeah, yeah, yep I yep.

13:01.50
ukfilmreview
Great to start with such a legend Bob Marley let me just click that away because we're moving to the next film and we have a clip which I'm gonna play in the episode because I have it already loaded up I'm actually ahead of time Brian I've I've done a bit of admin. So um.

13:10.29
Brian Penn
Oh and well fan and lastly wo done. Yeah, it.

13:20.70
ukfilmreview
Yeah, you can enjoy this lovely clip from the film Wicked little letters.

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ukfilmreview
This is.

14:28.70
Brian Penn
I Love it. Ah, love it. Love it.

14:30.41
ukfilmreview
So I mean what's really nice about this so usually listeners. We I put the clips in afterwards. Um Brian doesn't actually get to hear them so what's nice is that we've played it and I played like a clip in the show this time of Brian's

14:37.58
Brian Penn
E.

14:44.63
Brian Penn
Brilliant, yeah yeah, okay, all right wicked little words directs bythea shaak starring Olivia Coleman Jesse Buckley timothy spool and i.

14:46.86
ukfilmreview
But its good to hear it again and what a clip to start with that hasvased. It sounds great. But I mean you over to you Bri Wicked little le.

15:03.43
Brian Penn
And Jane Oversan is based on a true story rose gooddding is a feisty irish girl who brings her daughter to little hampson in the 1920 s she aims to start a new life in a tightknit community. However, trouble is afoot when she falls out with godfeing neighbor edith' swamp and mysteriously receives poison penlesses. Ah, father Edward is an upstanding member of the community and repulsed by such vile prose soon these wicked little this or lesss are dropping through everyone's letterbox newcomers are always mistrusted and fingers point accusingly at wrong. The police are convinced and prepares to take action. However, Wpc Gladys Mos isn't convinced and wants to investigate the case properly wicked little lessons harks back to the classic british movie era take out the profatasy and this could easily be a classic e comedy I love this film so much I've actually seen it twice Chris oh.

15:56.50
ukfilmreview
Oh I said sea of approval from Brian.

16:00.97
Brian Penn
Yeah I've seen it twice. My niece want to sit and she said do you want to come I said? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll definitely want to see it. Yeah, the carrots are so rich and likable. It's also very funny and a true story as well. It's difficult to believe the defamation or libel could carry criminal sanction. But that was the case back in the 1920 s the law has changed now. So it's purely a civil action at least in the yeah Uk but a terrific film. Really funny intelligent well written well-acted and you know we've often mentioned in the past when you can sense that the as involved are really enjoying it.

16:34.82
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

16:36.88
Brian Penn
And they are. They're having an an absolute ball and why wouldn't you with a film like this. It's It's a wonderful film. It is such good fun and if you can provided you can cope with the pro fantasy and after all that is the subjects of the film These Wicked little letters are full of Pro fantasy and and they're actually read out but that's half the fun. It's a lovely film. It's a great film to watch and I Only hope that that people do it. The do it The compliment of of going to see it because it is such a good film. Yeah, it is.

17:10.12
ukfilmreview
Its incredible cast I mean I aside just you just you could not tell me anything about the film but just show me the castless I got I need to see this film because it's insane Jason Whatkin so Sawiv Coleman Jesse Buckley love all these people. Um.

17:16.27
Brian Penn
I I know? Yeah yeah and I yeah I mean it was yeah was a few as I did ah I didn't miss one I went through the introduction but you know it's a fantastic host. You know as that are instantly familiar to British Views anyway.

17:26.61
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

17:35.19
Brian Penn
Through film and Tv they're very familiar live Coleman she's brilliant Jesse Buckley she's fantastic she's so good. Um, she curses. Well let's put it that way. You know it's it's great. There's some you know there are so many great lines you could pick out.

17:48.30
ukfilmreview
Ah.

17:54.46
Brian Penn
Um, you know, um, when um, just trying to think for a line that I could I can repeat that doesn't have a lot of bad language and what what can I say? Oh yeah, when they first met now Rose and Edith were really good friends to start with and they fell out and. Rose started to use really bad language and Edith recoiled and said oh you using language indoors on a Wednesday a lot I love that so use language. Oh yeah, but it kind of plugs into that kind of traditional british sense of politeness and manners.

18:21.30
ukfilmreview
Um.

18:31.62
Brian Penn
And you can imagine the stir that it caused in a town like little Hanson between the wars I can't I can't recommend it enough. It is such a good film. It really is well I was just coming to that actually I was just coming to that it is for me the film of the monk. It.

18:40.67
ukfilmreview
O We haven't heard film of the month yet. But it's a contender on Ger saying oh I called it I code it Yes I can tell with the way you're talking about eye. He's in love. He's in love with this film.

18:51.39
Brian Penn
Is is I know yeah I know I know and I I mean look as as I say if you like traditional British filmmaking this is this is the one for you and it was co coproduced by Channel four and channel four since but always seem to have a a big run. Sort of a major role in British Films films that are British financed and made over here. You know I think ah a British film. It is a moot point isn't it. It's a question of how you how you class it how you determine it whether it's financed with British money or it features British actors. Um.

19:22.15
ukfilmreview
E.

19:30.50
Brian Penn
And british creators but grateful. You'll love it. Chris you see it just.

19:35.11
ukfilmreview
I yeah I I just feel this is a genre that I am very very um, passionate about which is the Sunday afternoon armchair film that I'm like this is I'm gonna put on and I'll just chill to this film and I will soak up the comedy and I just yeah.

19:39.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the on a no, no, that's probably no, probably best. Not no.

19:52.73
ukfilmreview
Not with the kids around it sounds like I won't have the kids are best. Not I mean that they they're already getting a bit foul mouthed as it is yeah the two year old. She's a nightmare.

19:57.75
Brian Penn
Yeah, it's for grownups. Oh well. Yeah, for honestly, really I don't know. Yeah, but so yeah, it's um, not necessary one for the kids. It's for grownups really because of the subject matter but you know it's It's just there's so much great period. These summers weren't there as well. You.

20:08.46
ukfilmreview
In.

20:17.60
Brian Penn
You know they couldn't actually film in little Hampson itself that was where it all happened because apparently little hamson is is quite modern looking now it doesn't have authentic 1920 style architecture anymore and they had to go further down the coast I think to to film. Ah, but you know.

20:32.58
ukfilmreview
Over.

20:37.16
Brian Penn
Shows that they took the care to get it right? and that it feels real. Yeah ah I can't say much more than that. It's brilliant. Love how good. Yeah.

20:44.40
ukfilmreview
There you go I mean film of the month everyone you've been told wicked little letters that means that if you're listening to this, you have to go and watch it at the center Mark right now. So stop what you're doing put this on pause.

20:54.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah yeah, and I Yeah yeah I know I know they it's taking you literally up I Yeah I know? Yeah yeah.

20:57.78
ukfilmreview
I'm joking do keep this and it's a nightmare for our numbers. Don't just stop I've told I've done it a few times I told people to stop and they have and it's like no no, no I was joking. Yeah, yeah, don't take anything I said um Wicked little letters. Um I mean just from the clip I played I was like I want to see so much more of this. Um.

21:13.41
Brian Penn
But then I.

21:15.60
ukfilmreview
But yes, please let's know what you thought? um, our final Cinema film that we were reviewing was covered again in rather extensive detail on the Phantom zone So do check out there. Um, a special episode on this film but this is.

21:27.37
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

21:34.31
ukfilmreview
Follow up to lush year door was it a couple years ago now June part one this is part 2 and again I've got a little clip. It's quite a long clip. So I might cut it off a halfway. Yeah I mean.

21:36.67
Brian Penn
And oh wow it. Oh you, you're spoiling us now aren't yeah 3 clips in 1 sho. Wow yeah.

21:48.64
ukfilmreview
Ah, you have to this is this is a clip as well. That really gets you in the vibe. So hope you enjoy this here. We go.

22:50.70
ukfilmreview
There we go I mean seamlessly cut off there where I then realized I'd i'dda also muted my mic so it's going Well tonight it's go really really? well. Um, but I wanted to play that clip not and only because of it gives you a bit of the film but also the hi the background right? what.

22:56.97
Brian Penn
Ah, right? Yeah, ah.

23:04.69
Brian Penn
Yeah, the.

23:08.33
ukfilmreview
When I was listening to the phantom zone I think Simone did it and oh I was just hilarious. So yeah, again, do listen to that episode but Brian come on June part two any good.

23:11.67
Brian Penn
And. Right? Well how can I put it? Well all right? Let's let's just go through the basics. So some you know who's doing what? um, directly by dennisvillener starring Timothy Chammerla senddaya Rebecca Ferguson javio bardham Josh Brolin and a host of great cameos. It really is an impressive cast as you'd expect. So the story if you can call it that ah Paul treaties unites with chenai and the freemen to seek revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his family facing a choice between the love of his life and the fate of and the known universe. Tries to prevent a bleak future only he can foresee. Okay, so think game of thrones meet star wars and you've got the essence of the scripts here. Um, oddly enough I really enjoyed the first part but I didn't enjoy part 2 quite as much. Probably because I feel I've already seen it. You know if you know what I'm getting at um, technically it's brilliantly executed brilliantly conceived ah cgii special effects combat sequences are excellent, but that's something we expect from all films don't now Chris that.

24:12.57
ukfilmreview
Okay.

24:29.32
ukfilmreview
In.

24:31.61
Brian Penn
They've all got to have that in ah I don't think that kind of raises it above other films to say that that it it is visually stunning to watch and it is it just leaves me a little bit cold. It ranks with marble and dc films now. They'll just chur out the same film over and over again. And I wouldn't bet bet against it being a part three I think it's probably safe to assume so we're going to get more of the same. So for me, it was okay but I'm not speaking as a huge fan of this particular genre wherever you feel it fits in terms of genres. Ah. To me it Varis much closer to Marvel in Dc more but for me it was it was just okay. I wasn't so to use a vernacular I wasn't blown away by it myself.

25:18.41
ukfilmreview
Wow they get I mean I mean because I really enjoyed the first one but I am worried that I'm going to feel the same way as you because once you're over that spectacle once you've ah you had that that what you're left with is the story and the storytelling and it does seem to be 1 of these stories.

25:25.52
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

25:37.10
ukfilmreview
Yeah, the book and the original film. Oh the David Lynch one we had to endure recently. Um, available in a previous episode guys. Um, there is a story that does seem to divide people does seem to upset people quite a lot. So um, yeah I don't know because the fatom zone loved it. They were they were really.

25:42.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, ah.

25:55.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

25:56.24
ukfilmreview
Go in for it say how much they loved it. So by I take your point massively because those guys they hold their hands up. They are very much fans of all that Marvel stuff. Yeah, that's kind of how their podcast was born. So for them. Maybe this is that sort of film that's going to appeal to that yeah genre. But um, for.

26:04.62
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I mean look I'm I'm not a as you know I'm not a huge fan of that seanre. But you know for the sake of the show for the sake of film club.

26:15.63
ukfilmreview
Yourself Not so much.

26:23.79
Brian Penn
I will watch these films and absorb them and give you my own honest, critical view of a film. You know I am a film fan of but I'm a fan of mainstreaming the movies but I wouldn't say this is necessarily my favorite genre. But for me, it's not giving us anything different. You know there's nothing. It's nothing there that I don't feel I've seen before in part one for example, but it's it's ah a general continuation. But if you're into the genre then you'll be able to dive deep into it and you get much more from it. But I'm speaking more as a mainstream film fan. What does it do for me, you know. If I set that against wicked little letters or one laugh. It won't come close in terms of entertainment value. But that's me but I try and review it and be honest about it and say yes, it's good. It's very good but then it Shara what it does. But what is it doing where is it adding value. Where are we seeing something we haven't seen before wicked little letters for example, um, is a true story. It's based on a true story something I had never heard of and for me the secret of great filmmaking is to uncover stories that have either been forgotten or been buried bring those stories back to life.

27:28.63
ukfilmreview
Me.

27:39.60
Brian Penn
And that's what they did with wiki little learn as well. That's what think's great about it right? that that.

27:41.56
ukfilmreview
And if you look at like the last few episodes of film club that we've done your film of the month has always been that so last month it was the boys in the boat right? which was that story. You said you hadn't heard of that you the George Creamy film and before that it was the one life set.

27:52.70
Brian Penn
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:01.11
Brian Penn
Ah, one life that Nicholas Winson yeah Yeah yeah,

28:01.40
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it switer again. Another story which you said look you didn't know this had happened and I think you're absolutely right of June is a story that has been done albeit they sort of said you know it's very hard to tell but it has been attempted but where you're getting these films like wiki little letters that you say oh what? this is a really unique news story that people don't know about.

28:12.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

28:17.52
Brian Penn
Exactly? yeah yeah yeah I mean but you know awesomely Chris people fight with their feet. Don't they and this film will do very well and it is doing very good business. You know.

28:20.55
ukfilmreview
And been delivered really? well Yeah, it's interesting. What people kind of want from their cinema and what they want to experience.

28:34.25
ukfilmreview
I wouldn't recommend voting with your feet in reality though guys because you may put a cross in the wrong box just saying and that may be what's happened the last few times not pointing any fingers or toes. Um, so anyway, student part 2 it's still available I think at cinemas it's been out for.

28:36.81
Brian Penn
Oh Yeah. So but well yeah I got it.

28:51.68
ukfilmreview
Not that long came I marched in it. So yeah, you've you've got probably got plenty of time to watch that one and I'm assuming because the first one did the first one came to Amazon prime pretty quick so I'm assuming this will do the same. Um, but I don't know sometimes they have different agreements in place. But yeah.

28:52.36
Brian Penn
So yeah, yep, yeah, it'll be good that will that will run for months I'm sure it will. Yeah I.

29:10.80
ukfilmreview
Um, I would definitely watch it because I'm a fan of the first one and I want to see kind of all the fuss is about but I'm probably more excited about watching Wicked little letters following your lovely review there brown. Ah.

29:12.75
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah I Ah well umm I'm glad I'm glad ah I've I've swayed you it in that direction you know, but I know I know you're you're a you're a film buff. You're a film critic and you'll you'll go it. You watch it all in time.

29:31.52
ukfilmreview
Watch anything what haven't watched is a lot of these op oscar films. So we have a little quick trickle down here and Brian you can sort of just let me know your feelings on this really because you you've probably seen more of these. Um.

29:31.56
Brian Penn
As we always do. Yeah oh right? yeah.

29:41.43
Brian Penn
Yeah, of course? Well yeah, um, really I mean it was all about Oppenheimer wasn't it really? um I'm I'm pleased that it did so well it got 13 nominations of which seven of those turned into oscars.

29:51.94
ukfilmreview
Oppenheimer did drowell.

30:00.35
Brian Penn
It got best film. Best director for christoline olan best actor Colon Murphy Best supporting actor Robert Downey Jr critically and commercially it was the the best film of the year so I think the academy for a change again. It's all about opinions I accept that. But. For me the academy got it got its spot on I think it it was a great film and I personally um, christopher islandlan does have his detractors. He does polarize opinion. We were just speaking about Ian's rather unique views about christopher. No, but.

30:35.16
ukfilmreview
50

30:39.63
Brian Penn
Yeah I think he he is a great director. You know, but I think he he attracts more respects than affection. That's the that's the problem with with crystal and on and people have very clear views. You know opinion just just polarizes with him and it always will do but I'm glad he got. Oscar for best director because I think he's earned it and he deserves to be in that club. You know you got to look upon it as a club you know anyone they get see oscar for best director. You know it's the license to make films in hollywood isn't it. You know your your budget for movies. Starting forward is never going to be in question.

31:11.71
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

31:17.67
Brian Penn
Ah, that's suppose it ever was anyway, but you know so I'm really glad it got the line share of us because we have to mention Emma Stone who got a statueress for um, poor things um wasn't madly came on that film but you know yeah yeah, was kind of got yeah you know. Ah, shrub my shoulders a little bit with without film but fair enough. Um, but you know a lot of the technical os oscars were were gathered by Oppenheimer as well. Unsurprisingly one thing I did notice this though was that um, ah for the fifth year in a row.

31:46.70
ukfilmreview
E.

31:56.35
Brian Penn
There has been at least one woman nominated for best director and I just wonder now whether the time has come for a new category. Best female director because you know we we have best. We have best acts. The best Actress. You know why can't we have a separate category for best female durant and yeah because I think there are enough women making films to make that category Worthwhile. Um.

32:23.12
ukfilmreview
It's so it's interesting because um I I was um, raising this point years ago on Twitter about whether they should have the whole split of gender like should it not just be best you actor you know best best director that's it and then when I put that out a lot of.

32:32.23
Brian Penn
Yeah, well yeah, the the.

32:40.30
ukfilmreview
Ah, female actors or actresses came back to me and said that no we want to keep the category right? We don't want to like we we're all for a quality. Yeah, we're all for general polly but they don't want to lose that opportunity of recognition and and I think you're right, There is plenty of films that could support a whole extra category for for female directors.

32:46.17
Brian Penn
And yeah.

33:00.28
ukfilmreview
I Think the question is that is yeah I think yeah you know like the Academy awards. It's already controversial like everything about it is controversial. It always seems to put its foot wrong.

33:09.86
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:13.76
ukfilmreview
Adding a another separate category now is just ah drawing its attention to the fact that they never had 1 and yeah, yeah, sort of like almost ah admitting that they're wrong or is it going to be like oh we're going in the wrong direction should it actually be like you said the just genderless kind of categories I don't know.

33:24.37
Brian Penn
Yeah I mean there's an argument for Genderless Cat categories I mean the brittle wallves gone for a tangent for a second but the brittle walls abolished male and female artist didn't they.

33:40.21
ukfilmreview
In.

33:41.97
Brian Penn
In in their awards categories. They just went for best artists but that led them in into a whole heap of new issues because there were no women nominated you know and you kind of you solve 1 problem you create. Ah another problem somewhere else or further down the line that is the problem. You know you're never going to quite satisfy everyone. But.

33:54.15
ukfilmreview
Are.

34:00.84
Brian Penn
It just strikes me though that you know have that separate category there give give female directors a showcase you know.

34:08.32
ukfilmreview
I Suppose The only thing to so to say for that is that is the direction relevant to their gender because with the roles It was different right because it was like all women played certain roles and men played certain roles. So therefore it was difficult for women to get.

34:21.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:28.23
ukfilmreview
Oscars because they don't play the big roles which is different now anyway, but with the directing it's behind the cameras like is it a case of that women would direct different types of films which isn't it. They wouldn't right? That's not what would happen.

34:34.54
Brian Penn
So yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no this, you're right there. There's no clear distinction is there between men and women making films but or being editors or being directors. But it's different if they're on screen isn't it that.

34:46.42
ukfilmreview
Yeah, in in general that we are generalizing. But yes, there is like there's going to be a potential that women are going to take women roles and men are go take menros.

34:52.30
Brian Penn
I have effort. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know I I think it's something they should think about, but it could be the reason they've not done it is because they think they feel the Academy may feel they they will open a account of worm sp. By adding a new category. But.

35:12.98
ukfilmreview
Well what? um Ian said on the podcast and I agree with him is he said that why bother limiting it so much because he's only like what is it 5 films or something that ah that make it through to that final list. There's like.

35:23.34
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:26.36
ukfilmreview
Best film surely they could have like 20 or something. Yeah, just have more recognition of more of the films because it's like you're cutting it off so much for it to have the same amount of final films as like costume design or editing not saying those things aren't completely worthwhile. It's just that the director award is such a powerful 1

35:32.64
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

35:45.91
ukfilmreview
It's like an absolute career maker. Um, but I suppose several of the other categories I mean the reality is listeners. We don't really know what we're talking about and we're just kind of yeah spitballing ideas here. But Academy if you're listening and you do take this up. We will want our share of the money for sure.

35:46.75
Brian Penn
Yeah.

35:57.10
Brian Penn
But it. Yeah yeah I mean I mean look it's only right isn't it I think we shouldn't put a mark down and say look we started this conversation off you know it was her idea but it yeah I know I know but aside from that though.

36:05.46
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

36:10.80
ukfilmreview
We started it with our rambling.

36:16.82
Brian Penn
You know I was quite I was pleased here. The the line show of oscars went to Oppenheimer because it is a very good film at the end of the day. It's not been a vintage year for for great movies. I don't think that good. Good films. The output's consistent but very few films will stand out you know and. My my continuing gripe is that certain films will never get anywhere near the academy awards and they should you know.

36:41.50
ukfilmreview
Yeah, absolutely listen back to our episodes in your see Brian Shine a light on some very very cool films. Um, that often don't get anywhere near this list. So yeah, that is that's part of what this podcast is all about and actually brings us very nice on to the next section. So.

36:48.56
Brian Penn
Yeah.

36:58.58
Brian Penn
Oh yeah.

37:00.82
ukfilmreview
We're going to be moving on to a quick streaming film and then we'll be looking at the indie films before finishing up with our nostalgia pick and for um, for this month's episode. Our streaming pick was on Netflix and it got quite a lot of buzz. Um. Certainly someone who deserves an Oscar by now surely um, the film stars Adam sandva and was directed by Johann rank called Spaceman um this you know so many people have asked me what I thought of this film and every time I've said the same thing which is.

37:19.26
Brian Penn
So.

37:25.94
Brian Penn
So.

37:36.41
ukfilmreview
I still don't quite know how I feel about this film if I'm more is it's very very strange. Um, so I'll give the synopsis because Brian bless him out to do 3 already. Um, so yeah Adam Sander plays an astronaut who's been sent off on an expedition. Um.

37:40.14
Brian Penn
It's that kind of film isn't it. Yeah.

37:56.82
ukfilmreview
Through the sidelar system to investigate this purple cloud that has appeared above the skies and he'll be gone for a very long time. Um, and he's on his own. It's a solo mission and essentially the film is following him on the spaceship also catching up with his. Um. Wife at home paper Carriey Mulligan and um, some of the other sort of crew that are helping him on his mission but whilst he's on the ship he befriends I'm not sure that's right word but befriend a creature very much looking a bit like a scary as spider.

38:25.73
Brian Penn
Yeah, a a yeah yeah.

38:33.14
ukfilmreview
Um, voiced by the always excellent Paul Dano um and yeah, this creature comes on the ship and starts to interacting with Sandler's character and the 2 have this first uneasy kind of relationship. But then they start to come very much attached to each other as.

38:44.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

38:51.30
ukfilmreview
Ah, sans character spirals towards this purple sky and into a fate unknown do know I didn't worry with that that wasn't too bad for me for synopsis which I do off the Cufff I don't write these down as you probably can tell. Um, but I thought.

39:02.17
Brian Penn
It's pretty decent. Yeah.

39:09.62
ukfilmreview
With this sort of film like we were saying a bit earlier. It's a different type of story to tell it is unique I've not seen something like this done but maybe it has been done in sci-fi before. But for me this felt like a new story I thought Sandler was great.

39:18.83
Brian Penn
But.

39:24.59
ukfilmreview
I'm showing his acting chops again like he did in uncut gems which if you haven't seen is excellent. Very much recommend that film but this and this aside turns it being unique and interesting I think it is all those things but I still don't know if I found it enjoyable I Just kind of got to the end of it and this sort of thought. Not sure how I feel it was a very strange introspective kind of film. How did it make you feel right.

39:47.84
Brian Penn
Yeah, know it's it's difficult to describe because you know on the 1 hand you you've got this one man who's in space solo what I meant to do before we we came on air was to to check and see if anyone has actually been into space solar by themselves. Because to me that gives it an edge. The fact that he's alone right? He's isolated and.

40:11.58
ukfilmreview
There was the Russian guy right? who got put into orbit I remember that this a no no not for that long. No no, no.

40:15.32
Brian Penn
But for that long though for for as long as it. Yeah yeah, you see this is it right? So you've got that kind of dynamic there where you think God imagine being alone in space for that length of time and having very very little contact with with earth. And with the people that you want to remain in contact with that He was constantly saying what about my wife I want to speak to my wife you know all the way through and you kind of sense that kind of anxiety right? that the fact that they were used. You know they were using him ah to score political points off to say look It's great look at what we're doing as an ocean.

40:39.73
ukfilmreview
Yep.

40:52.38
Brian Penn
But controlling what he said who he spoke to um what I found very quite moving was when when there was the the satellite link up and the girl in the audience or holmes said what's it feel like to be the loneliest man on Earth You know that's a very telling line and it tells you a lot about the.

41:05.69
ukfilmreview
There.

41:11.83
Brian Penn
The character's motivation and about you in your own mind getting straight. Why is out there. What's took him out there and as the film wore on it told you more about the relationship you had with his wife played by Kry Mulligan who it was I thought very good in the role and Isabel Isabella Rossellina you who played the um.

41:31.76
Brian Penn
The ah, the senior space commander strike politician the the person that was pulling all the strings really and then you've got this really odd relationship with this creature that apparently was stowed away on board. And he never knew he never realized he and after six months in space. He realizes this thing is actually on board with him. Um, so it's a very odd film. It is a very strange film but there's something quite gripping about it and um, Adam Sandler um <unk>s really showing you just mentioned shows. What a good a is now versus someone is because he made his name as a comedian didn't he really as ah as a comica standup you know and it's a million miles away from some of the characters. He's played. You know if you compare compare this character to the character who played in the wedding singer you know.

42:17.22
ukfilmreview
There.

42:25.97
ukfilmreview
Hey it great film by the way. Love the film.

42:28.82
Brian Penn
You couldn't get 2 more different characters. Could you really? and that show. Yeah I love it as well. Absolutely love that? Um, but no so I like you I wasn't sure how I felt about this film because it makes you curious. It makes you interested. But this. Such a high level weirdness there that you can't really come to any real conclusions about the film about a character. He's motivations about the creature as well. You know because it was interesting to see how that relationship develops and how it kind of. Peaked then it deterioated for various reasons that we weren't going into here because it will it will spoil it for people. Um, but aside from that no I wasn't short to make of it. But it's something that you will be drawn to once you start watching it and.

43:16.42
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think that people should experience it and make up their own mind I think it's ah, interesting enough film to give a go. There's a lot to take from it and enjoy. But I certainly wouldn't ever say to someone. Oh you're going to love this film.

43:24.30
Brian Penn
So.

43:30.45
ukfilmreview
I will not have any confidence to say that because I just I think it's gonna be a complete marite sort of film or even not even Marma I think you're gonna you're gonna have a go and go I don't know how I feel I don't I think I think that's terrific that a film can leave you like that can leave you in a space of like oblivion.

43:30.56
Brian Penn
No yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well yeah, just scratching your head all the way through it aren't you really because you're just not sure what to make of it and it's unusual to be confronted with a film where where you don't come out of it with any clear view. Of what it was about the impacts it had on you because you got to think about the impacts of film handss when you watch it, you know and I wasn't sure how I felt about it. It's all like here. It's just one of those strange films. You think? Yeah, Ah, it's got something.. It's definitely got something. It holds your attention. But.

44:16.97
Brian Penn
You You can't come out the feeling you've been in sustain but you don't really know what what you feel about it. Um's that kind of film is that it's just an odd one strange. Yeah.

44:18.00
ukfilmreview
A.

44:26.38
ukfilmreview
It's an odd one but check it out anyway, if you're already seen space fans that's been out a little while on Netflix so let us know? Um, but yes, it's a recommendation but with caution. Um, so.

44:35.74
Brian Penn
Yes, this.

44:39.87
ukfilmreview
Yes, we're now moving on to our indie films section and this is always very exciting So these are films that filmmakers have asked us to review. They've specifically sent us these films and said please review them on your podcast and we are very happy to do so um and I have a few clips for some of the films. Not all of them but some of them.

44:57.51
Brian Penn
Oh fantastic.

44:59.58
ukfilmreview
Um I know and I think that's very important to give you a bit of taste of the film and give you an idea of what yeah what it might be like um, we're starting first with an indie feature film written directed by David Stewart Snell called I bring joy.

45:02.69
Brian Penn
Yeah.

45:14.39
Brian Penn
O.

46:22.82
ukfilmreview
Always nice to have the word gyrate at the end of a clip I think I helped. Um, so yeah, but a very useful clip because it gives you such a sense of the tone of this film. Um London -based thriller starring. Um.

46:25.65
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:37.64
Brian Penn
A yeah.

46:40.92
ukfilmreview
Alena Rivers as the title character of joy the film Iss called ivoring joy but she doesn't bring joy she brings stabbing um there so she plays a dancer and is part of like a a crew that were they cool dancers. They're called a crew aren't they I think troop troop.

46:56.23
Brian Penn
Ah, Troop Troop Group troop. Yeah.

46:59.12
ukfilmreview
Trip. Um, and yeah, that's her kind of passion but ah, an altercation happens on one night and she ends up accidentally stabbing someone. Um I think they were trying to mug her and she sort of yeah things didn't quite go the way that the muggers had planned and she ends up stabbing them kind of accidents but she's.

47:10.34
Brian Penn
So.

47:17.60
ukfilmreview
Feels a thrill from this and also it kind of ties in at the time of her life where she's going through quite things. There's also a trauma in her past that links to so she decides to keep doing it um to people that Chief Bills deserves it um and the film essentially sees her.

47:27.81
Brian Penn
And.

47:36.37
ukfilmreview
Trying to live this duplicitive life of the dancer but also a psychopath. But yeah and in the background um very dramatic, very powerful. Lots of exploration of themes. What do you think of I bring Joy Brian

47:41.81
Brian Penn
You.

47:48.88
Brian Penn
I think it's very good very good film very strong characters. You know where where it starts off you know Joy Joy is an inspiring dancer. She's auditioning for film roles and roles in adverts and so on.

47:54.84
ukfilmreview
Question.

48:08.81
Brian Penn
And doing her best to make make make ah ah, a serious break ins into performing arts but a life has d rowled up to an a certain extent where she she confronts the the mugger confront um, and that leads to a train of events doesn't it where. She begins targeting people that have challenged her people that have wronged her. It's very reminiscent of death wish isn't the devilish movies that Michael Winnerner made with Charles Brunson where someone with ah a seemingly conventional background. Um, turns turns against the society and begins targeting the the darker side of life if you like um, very good film very well written. Well-acted well shot the lighting's great. The the atmosphere is very atmospheric as well. It's a good film.

48:50.94
ukfilmreview
In.

49:07.13
Brian Penn
It's a very good film and it's um, it's unusual to see a film like that with an indie tag where it see it seems to be very towards are more a film that would have a bigger Budget. You know it's almost doesn't feel like an indie film to me in some ways if that makes sense. But. I Really enjoyed it and if enjoyment's the right word because it's thing with with a very dark subject matter. But and I think it takess all the boxes well written and willll observe. Well-acted and it's interesting to see how that character develops.

49:36.40
ukfilmreview
It.

49:45.34
Brian Penn
And the relationship she develops online with us a person that she's discussing what she's done. That's interesting as well. Yeah, we yeah the dry writing person. Yeah, that's right? Yeah, so.

49:54.62
ukfilmreview
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the person try a rating. Um, so yeah I agree I think it's one of those films that does stand out as being very high quality. You don't feel like you're having to watch a film that's.

50:04.27
Brian Penn
Yeah.

50:12.31
Brian Penn
And.

50:12.42
ukfilmreview
Skimped on the budget for that stuff. Um, but also done things in a way that it's really tonally correct like they've they've captured that sort of dangerous element of London really well. Um, there's a lot of exploration of stereotypes and yeah, but there. There's the 2 black guys that are sort of watching at 1 point and they get stopped by the police and they've got immediately kind of sort of yeah roller eyes or thing. Um and that the news you starts blaming things on gangs and stuff like that and I think it's a film that sort of got that um social unrest. It's foundation. Yeah, it's not just the film you with a.

50:33.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

50:46.35
Brian Penn
And.

50:50.12
ukfilmreview
Very interesting story. It is actually pick picking apart some of these other parts of our society that are also really interesting. Um I thought it was because you mentioned death which I've actually seen defish but it reminded me of American Psycho which was that.

50:54.30
Brian Penn
So.

51:05.58
Brian Penn
It's yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

51:06.37
ukfilmreview
Idea you know that character that suddenly starts to just see themselves as outside the the norms of society and yeah, it starts to prey on people obviously not. There's not all similarities there but there's just that's just what it reminded me of that It was a character that felt really dangerous.

51:23.21
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah that I know you're right? yeah is powerful and it.

51:23.69
ukfilmreview
Because she just decided that she was no longer going to play by the rules and I thought okay wow like this is you don't know where where she's going to go with this? um I thought the the score was really good as well. It's just a really pulsing energy so had sort of synth score throughout. That was really really cool I Really like that.

51:42.46
Brian Penn
It kind of adds to the drama doesn't it that and it shows what you can do with a good soundtrack that doesn't necessarily drown out the the film itself. Yeah yeah, so yeah, it's a good film but there are element I mean American like I see the analogy there I can see why white reminded you of that.

51:47.23
ukfilmreview
Um, no, it's not obtrusive at all. It's really enhances it. Yeah.

52:00.94
Brian Penn
But there are elements of vigilanteism there and that's probably you know that's something a lot of people can relate to in some ways where you see the typical scenario is you know where where films are concerned. It is that a Killer goes free or somebody who's done wrong gets away with it. You know.

52:02.50
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

52:20.95
Brian Penn
And that's like you know a common emotion is to say right? They should pay for their crying you know and that's where it begins It doesn't end up that Way. It doesn't it doesn't go down that route necessarily. But that's how it starts out. But yeah, good for I mean really coming back to my earlier point about um. About it not being a typical indie film is that often with indie films part of their their charm and quality is that they are done on a limited budget and they are kind of rough around the edges but this seems to have a kind of more more gloss to it. Um, so I wouldn't It doesn't necessarily come across as a typical indie film. Um, yeah, so.

52:58.57
ukfilmreview
yeah yeah I agree I think you wouldn't necessarily have known that I mean also yeah, there is increasingly less of an ah distinction between those 2 types of films now. Anyway, you know so a lot of films are independent in.

53:07.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.

53:13.99
ukfilmreview
Quotes because they're just made by people Obviously do not what we're gonna do our way and people will find a way of making the film. Um with I bring joy it just felt that it just have it has that burning ball of energy that an indie film has that it's like a powerful story. They really wanted to tell and tell it their way. They also felt.

53:15.61
Brian Penn
And then.

53:25.74
Brian Penn
Yeah, and.

53:33.79
ukfilmreview
There was a bit of a maybe an insider track here in terms of so there's a whole um section of the film that talks about this legend in the acting sphere. Yeah, the legend you know this person who is unnamed I believe or does he turn up or something.

53:42.74
Brian Penn
Of the legend. Yeah yeah, so.

53:51.54
Brian Penn
Doesn't they don't appear on screen. Do they I don't think.

53:52.84
ukfilmreview
Do here? Good Yeah I don't think so and they basically are a very powerful influential filmmaker or director or or a part of the the to if he talk much to but he uses his position to ipress upon women and and yeah, unfortunately.

53:57.50
Brian Penn
So.

54:12.60
ukfilmreview
Abuse that power that that's at play here. Yeah, the idea that someone like that and then it all gets hushed up by the other people around him to sort of make sure that nothing's affected. You know business as usual and that these people just need to sort of keep quiet that I think it was rallying against that you know I mean there was like a kind of well.

54:24.39
Brian Penn
And.

54:32.58
ukfilmreview
This rage needs to go somewhere. And yeah, if the societal norms that we have and the structures we have in place that seems to protect These people aren't going to work then maybe that you have to work outside them and yeah I don't think the film's making any kind of judgment on that I think it's just all.

54:38.90
Brian Penn
The.

54:50.17
ukfilmreview
Proposing the question. Yeah, what would happen if people did just start taking matters into their own hands and living out that idea.

54:50.99
Brian Penn
It? Yeah yeah, it's a pro. Yeah, it's like a proposition isn' it. It's exam question isn't it in a way you know it's putting it out there and saying well what if you know? um so but it was good that I was impressed with it very impressed with it. So.

54:57.96
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

55:08.31
ukfilmreview
Well good. The film is actually available to rent right away on um Amazon prime I believe if you're in the Uk. So yeah I bring joy if you want to find out more about the film though. There's a Facebook page I bring joy the film or 1 word the director has a Twitter.

55:10.25
Brian Penn
Good, excellent.

55:26.21
ukfilmreview
So at Davis Snell or 1 word Instagram page I bring the joy filml or 1 word and there's also a website canyonmedia.co/film. do check them all out if you do get stuck. Ah if you saw can't find it or whatever and you've checked Amazon you've checked Instagram you've checked Facebook. Um.

55:27.00
Brian Penn
So.

55:40.67
Brian Penn
And.

55:44.22
ukfilmreview
Also check our website so we have a review of the film and often there'll be a trailer within that review and you can watch that or just send us a message and we'll point you in the right direction we are more than happy to do that? Um I'll forward all the emails to Brian Brian or Ford then to Ian and Ian will deal with it.

55:49.36
Brian Penn
And of course. Yeah yeah I leave it. My.

56:01.78
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah, no I bring joy do check out very strongly recommended Um, sticking with the indie field features now. Um and from a director that I have a lot of respect for I've been watching his career quite a bit. We interviewed him.

56:04.19
Brian Penn
Yeah, is good. It's good.

56:20.53
ukfilmreview
I interviewed him for um, a very short-lived magazine that we had running. We had the Uk From Review Magazine and I interviewed the writerdirect Marcus Flemings um and that was I was a very lovely moment. Unfortunately the magazine didn't really last too much longer because why would you go into print I mean that was a silly thing to do. Yeah, what was I doing.

56:23.16
Brian Penn
I.

56:36.97
Brian Penn
And.

56:40.11
ukfilmreview
Um, but fortunately Marcus has made ah better decisions with his career and has launched his new indie comedy film called everyone which again I have a clip.

56:50.57
Brian Penn
You Oh wow.

58:24.19
ukfilmreview
Okay, so everyone and that clip was from just which Brian is finding there which is just from one part of the film right? So it's a film made up of multiple storylines.

58:25.33
Brian Penn
But I hope yeah.

58:40.86
Brian Penn
So.

58:43.11
ukfilmreview
Um, all set within a restaurant in London and the one that you heard there was the clip of a a footballer and his manager or soon to be x manager having a quite awkward kind of push closing brief I guess ah, he's not happy about being ditched by his.

58:55.55
Brian Penn
You.

59:01.41
ukfilmreview
Footballer who he spent a lot of time and and money creating and the footballer feels that this guy isn't for him anymore and you know, judging if you just went on that clip I'd say yeah I wouldn't want him as my manager either? Ah um, but that's just one of the scenarios in this film all set in the same location almost for the whole film. Um, there's.

59:10.51
Brian Penn
A no I.

59:17.62
Brian Penn
And.

59:20.34
ukfilmreview
Other Storylines happening at the same time. There's a family of four like siblings that are talking about an inheritance and one of them is alcohol problem which is very very funny. Ah, there's a a mother and daughter. Um the daughter who thinks she's.

59:28.91
Brian Penn
A.

59:37.31
ukfilmreview
Messiah because she feels she can hear everyone. She's not the messiah. She's a very naughty guy. Um, there's a guy with a camera who's trying to get over his social anxiety by donating on his own and the the waitress who's going through her own stuff kind of comes the app she comes and sits with him. Um.

59:38.95
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, ah.

59:46.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, befriend them.

59:56.28
ukfilmreview
There is a threesome fish with or what do they call it. They called it something a situation or something. Um, where there's the be yeah, not a couple but a trio and yeah, the guy that one of the guys in that in that Trio doesn't feel comfortable with that anymore and there's also a couple.

59:56.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:06.50
Brian Penn
The trio. Yeah.

01:00:11.88
Brian Penn
So.

01:00:16.10
ukfilmreview
And older a elderly couple just sitting there talking not talking to each other. Um, yeah yeah I don't think I've missed out any of the story lines in that film. His kid is really good.

01:00:17.26
Brian Penn
And they so they think don't they they I think they they put their thoughts on screen occasionally. Ah if I remember right? like? No no, no, you've got it all I think this is brilliant I I absolutely love this. You know I will never go into a restaurant and think of people sitting around me in the same way I'm going to be curious as to what they're talking about now because you know the idea that you can have ah 6 different conversations going on and I think it was all in 1 take wasn't it I don't think they were they stopped then stopped. Choosing again, they were just panning a camera around weren't they the restaurant.

01:00:57.92
ukfilmreview
I'm not sure they felt like it. Maybe there was but I think they definitely did it because a lot of the characters are in the background of the shot. So yeah, there must have been a big amount of choreography going on here.

01:01:02.50
Brian Penn
But yeah, yeah I think they were close to it I mean it's It's this old. Um, this old boast of directors isn't it where where they say I shot this with one camera you know one take.

01:01:20.70
Brian Penn
And Sam Meners in 7 saying of course it can't quite be done. But I think that I think here he got close to it that it was all almost well. It was nearly all in 1 1 ne's take very good editing because I think it almost looked that way because I was trying to work out where they stopped. That's one of my annoying habits now when I watch films is that where did the editor get involved. You know it's a very fine dividing line between where the editors involved and where the directs is saying what? Ah yeah, yeah, real time. Yeah.

01:01:49.29
ukfilmreview
It was definitely in real time like or as close to real time as you could really want from a film. Um I think that was important right? because you're having this restaurant scene. You couldn't have it happening over like the course of two days or things. So.

01:01:58.20
Brian Penn
No like yeah.

01:02:00.91
ukfilmreview
And that would throw up its own logistical issues Anyway, just getting the lighting right? and making sure that yeah they get seen right? So yeah, really ambitious. Nope Really ambitious was literally how I was going to finish that sentence so you go.

01:02:03.14
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, it shows that? Well yeah, sorry Chris off you? Oh okay, that's that's fine. No, but I thought it was great. So I mean that to been really well rehearsed I think the script was brilliant. Really crisp and bright and funny very literate I love the 4 siblings that were squabbling amongst themselves. You know where the oldest sister says to the youngest sister. How did the tongue operation. Go oh she does speak. She's the one who never says anything the um, the ah.

01:02:26.49
ukfilmreview
Here.

01:02:35.30
ukfilmreview
Ah.

01:02:40.75
Brian Penn
The agent with it with a foot bla that was funny as Well. They were all great. They all had great lines. You know there were there were not. There was no sort of padding there that they all had good lines. None of them were kind of passengers. You know the the elderly couple were there to sort of represent. Ah, people in light years who just don't communicate anymore right? But they're not communicate. Yeah yeah I know yeah and I exactly that's it. Um I think the the scenes between the right twist and the lonelyne man with the the photographgrapher.

01:03:00.77
ukfilmreview
Which always happens right? You andever, you go to a restaurant and there is always a couple there that aren't talking. They've just been married for so long. They've just ran out of things to say.

01:03:18.25
Brian Penn
Quiteluching as well. Yeah, yeah.

01:03:19.46
ukfilmreview
Yeah, that added that sort of much needed heart didn't it because you couldn't just have loads of funny tables going on you needed something. But even the funny tables they still have that sense of like um depth. There's still drama that comes out and bits that do move you I think yeah, the photographer who's sort of struggling.

01:03:29.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:35.18
Brian Penn
So.

01:03:37.20
ukfilmreview
Was a immediate way of saying that this this isn't just like some wacky comedy. That's meant to be funny throughout like you're meant to feel lots of different emotions here. And yeah I think it was navigated really well.

01:03:40.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I I was really really impressed with it and it's really funny that the script is so sharp and I've not seen that a film with that kind of setup before. You know it's an ensemble piece and that in itself is not easy to work on screen to have an ensemble piece guy in where you've got I don't know how many characters have you got 2 6 8 10 twelve fourteen I think if you include the if you include the elderly couple.

01:04:12.99
ukfilmreview
Give a give or take yeah.

01:04:18.46
Brian Penn
And to get that ensemble cast working as well as that is wellw writtentten. Well-directed and wellrehearsed because you know as you say it's all taking place at the same time. It's in real time. That's the the correct phrase to use. But I love it I Think it's great. Really good. Fun. Yeah, but.

01:04:40.69
ukfilmreview
I Love it when a filmmaker sort of takes an idea like because it could be you someone sat in a restaurant and had that idea right of I Wonder what everyone's talking about but to actually just then and go and make that film is so ambitious. Um, and so.

01:04:45.32
Brian Penn
Yeah I. Yeah, yeah.

01:04:55.30
ukfilmreview
On the nose as well. It's really captured exactly what it's like which is like you you could imagine yourself maybe being in one of those conversations but also overhearing those other conversations and just being absolutely yeah yeah, drawn in by the T being spilled I think the um, the film. Also.

01:05:02.65
Brian Penn
I need.

01:05:13.13
Brian Penn
So.

01:05:13.25
ukfilmreview
Was able to feel fresh because what this idea probably lends itself to would be more like a theater production because you could imagine that you know the lights going up on one down on another and yeah, yeah, as a theatre production it kind of makes a lot of sense. But as a film.

01:05:20.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, it it would work out on stage wouldn't it. Yeah yeah.

01:05:30.61
ukfilmreview
I would say that you know this is throwing up so many logistical issues to film it that you would be a little bit like crazy to make it. But the result is really good and what I would say as well I am because it's it's listed as a drama but this is definitely I'd say leaning more towards comedy than it was drama. Um.

01:05:34.94
Brian Penn
But.

01:05:48.28
Brian Penn
It's a comedy. Oh I think it's a common. Yeah.

01:05:50.47
ukfilmreview
But either way it's a very successful comedy I laughed out loud and there is for me. There is no greater compliment I can give to a filmmaker because I don't give my my laugh out louds much? Um, but you know what the bit that got me that they then carried on laughing was the bit where.

01:05:53.16
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I Like you think.

01:06:09.87
ukfilmreview
Foot is saying can you get your receptionist to stop calling me dick and and then the manager goes dick is the nickname for Richard it's just I was balling with laughter at that and from now he' gone I was sold I was just laughing all the way.

01:06:13.96
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, yeah, ah ah yeah I know. Um, yeah I think the the football and the agent was particularly funny and.

01:06:31.24
Brian Penn
You know where where he's saying look I want to I want to I've grown I've outgrown you now I want to go and play for Barcelona They gave me a powerpoint presentation in a bottle of water. Oh well, that's it then and he said I can get your boscelo and I can get you a bottle of water and not just fizzy drinks. Um.

01:06:43.89
ukfilmreview
Here.

01:06:48.57
Brian Penn
Yeah I mean what was your favorite um scene I mean they kind of like it. There were a series of set pieces really weren't I what? what was the best 1 Do you think? so.

01:06:56.86
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah I think there's a bit where the table of 4 siblings. Oh I don't know what it was. It's where he pours the wine through her hand.

01:07:08.53
Brian Penn
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:10.64
ukfilmreview
You remember that scene is's getting very tense and he just he just keeps pouring the wine through her hand and I was like this is getting really harsh now and I thought that was excellent and but because that scene as all that the the 4 of them felt at first it felt a bit kind of like oh okay, it's 4 siblings who don't obviously get on. Um.

01:07:17.82
Brian Penn
The had I.

01:07:29.99
Brian Penn
The.

01:07:30.23
ukfilmreview
There's plenty of drama going on here but it felt kind of they were paying just lip service to each other's or okay, yeah I know we're related but and we like each other but as more and more was uncovered about their family and what was going on and the the depths of that and why they were having to have this conversation I.

01:07:36.36
Brian Penn
I.

01:07:48.40
ukfilmreview
I found that really a great arc to to watch amongst all the other really good arcs are they're all very good but that 1 particularly for me what about uber.

01:07:50.51
Brian Penn
I the um I think yeah that the football and the agent are really enjoyed the um the th threesome the the I think that was really very well played that that could. That could be a classic sketch from Peter Cook and Dody Moore or something you know that that was really good. Very clever clever wellserved and you know the the earnest guy sitting in the middle is really hurt by what's going on and the the guy to our right? So he's left who's kind of really.

01:08:08.89
ukfilmreview
Here.

01:08:21.13
ukfilmreview
It.

01:08:28.13
Brian Penn
Super intelligent and really philosophical about it or he's always got an answer and yeah, and yeah, and and of course the guy in the middle is is really upset by it all because he's falling for ah you know and.

01:08:32.74
ukfilmreview
He's very confident is he sat there just sort of Smug and like loving it. He's just laughing most of the time. Ah.

01:08:44.38
Brian Penn
The guy on on our right is sort of saying Well, what's the problem. You know this is life. You know, um I thought that was great as well. They were all great. They're all really good but you know they they work individually. Don't they they're working as individual sort of set pieces but they work as an ensemble as well.

01:08:47.66
ukfilmreview
I hear.

01:09:02.13
ukfilmreview
Yeah, you could have seen this film just absolutely chopped up into short films right? each 1 having their own little film. But as a piece together I think it really works because you get that sense of human ah evolutional most that or like societal evolution and also that natural.

01:09:02.24
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:09:20.46
ukfilmreview
Progression because you know it's like when you go for a meal and you know it's that sense of to begin with things feel really kind of odd because you're in a new setting you maybe yourself Even even if you are with someone that you know that there's a sense of like we don't know where we're going. We're in a different environment.

01:09:27.89
Brian Penn
And. I mean.

01:09:35.55
ukfilmreview
And as things warm up as things intensify the conversation becomes maybe a bit more truthful maybe a bit more honest and painful and then we get that kind of crescendo of of revelation which happens almost in all of the situations and I think the the filmmakers and the cast and the crew they handed it.

01:09:40.67
Brian Penn
And.

01:09:52.85
Brian Penn
I.

01:09:54.14
ukfilmreview
Expertly It's really really smartly delivered. Um, ah but very very funny and that for me is key I think if I'm ever going to recommend a film a comedy it has to have made you laugh and this did numerous times numerous times. Um, be ah, very good.

01:09:58.17
Brian Penn
Yeah, it yeah course. Yeah, yeah, it gets lots of lows doesn't it Lots of longs. Lots of lows. Oh well. Yeah.

01:10:12.64
ukfilmreview
Lots of loles more than we get Brian but that's okay, that's okay, um, unfortunately everyone is going to have to wait for everyone because I don't think it's out. Um the film has a website londonnewwave.com

01:10:17.66
Brian Penn
Yeah, Plus or.

01:10:22.53
Brian Penn
I.

01:10:29.96
ukfilmreview
Um, Marcus Flemings is available on so Twitter and Instagram things so you can find them. We've tagged him in a few posts. So um, oh that was always going to say Brian did you? So did you watch the credit. We got a name check on.

01:10:38.70
Brian Penn
What's that I did we got an name check didn't we like? yeah.

01:10:45.22
ukfilmreview
I can honestly say this listen I had no idea I wasn't told or if I was told I've forgotten because I'm like that and I was just I had the on I was in the background I was just sort of you know that mulling of the film I of all just letting the film sink in that's a wait a minute the producers wish to thank UKFilm review and I was like oh.

01:11:03.77
Brian Penn
So yeah I know what did we do then? Chris I mean you know.

01:11:04.55
ukfilmreview
We go that was a lovely little bit of claim to fame lovely I again could be wrong because my brain isn't what it used to be and that's not I'm not that old I mean my mid 30 s but I have had a lot of alcohol in my life and I think he has done quite a lot of damage.

01:11:13.30
Brian Penn
And.

01:11:20.96
Brian Penn
Oh I see my ah right.

01:11:22.53
ukfilmreview
Um, but I think it may have been that that interview that we did in the magazine and generally we've I think we've shared his um when he was doing kickstarters and things like that to raise money for films I don't know if it was that I mean Marcus can probably tell us more best of why and or he may have put in my mistake and that'll be terrible wouldn.

01:11:39.89
Brian Penn
I would not be a disappointment.

01:11:40.68
ukfilmreview
Said oh I didn't mean to thank you I meant someone else? Yeah I meant total film. Not you you guys are rubbish. Um, but no, he has been very complimentary about the UK fromview stuff in the past. So yeah, what an honor.

01:11:49.27
Brian Penn
Yeah, well, it's it's yeah, it's nice to get that. It's nice to get that sort of accreditation. So um, oh yeah, exactly got a permanent record of it. That's the important thing. Um I mean look I think it's great I.

01:11:55.57
ukfilmreview
And I took a picture so he can't remove it now her suck exactly.

01:12:05.61
Brian Penn
Frankly I mean you could tell by the way I reacted to it I've done a where to start first. It's just so good where I want to take all of it apart and think right? How did he do that. How did he do that You know what camera angles that he used sips all in real time you know was it Handheld was you know how many you know.

01:12:11.71
ukfilmreview
This is.

01:12:22.10
Brian Penn
When I when I start sort of going into the the deep sort of technical aspects of a film That's a sign for me that I've really got into it and really enjoyed it. You know.

01:12:33.98
ukfilmreview
There you go everyone? Yeah might be harder to find that one. But yeah, do follow the social media links that we mentioned and seek it out. Um moving on to another in the feature.

01:12:40.97
Brian Penn
So.

01:12:46.71
Brian Penn
We were very busy. Yeah.

01:12:47.10
ukfilmreview
We were busy this month weren't we right? We had 5 for this episode so we're on the third and this was another feature length. Um Matthew Butlet heart ah indie feature called dagger not spelt how you think it might be spellt ah DHER and this is the.

01:12:58.91
Brian Penn
And I want no.

01:13:05.41
ukfilmreview
Last film we have a clip for so I'm gonna play that for you now.

01:13:06.91
Brian Penn
And.

01:14:11.78
ukfilmreview
So I think that's the end of the clip. It suddenly ended and I thought is that the end of the clip that's end of the clip. Um, so Dagger um a absolute Knockout Horror thriller of the found footage genre.

01:14:12.75
Brian Penn
I Para Yes yeah.

01:14:29.32
ukfilmreview
Which I am a big fan of when it's done well and as well as this ah the story as you heard there is about 2 social media stars and they're known for their sort of Robin Hood type antics they pose as caterers for a posh commercial but their idea is they're kind of steal.

01:14:30.97
Brian Penn
So.

01:14:46.42
ukfilmreview
Of stuff while they're there and sort of just generally calls a bit of havoc but when they get there all hell breaks loose because they're in this very spooky house and things start to go awry. What did you think of dagger.

01:14:50.76
Brian Penn
I I I liked it I really enjoyed it. Ah you know I have a ah fairly kind of relaxed attitude towards horror. You know it. It doesn't. Don't scare easily Chris when it comes to horror boo. No it didn't scare me, you'd have to try a bit older than that. Actually yeah, but this actually I did find quite quite scary actually and I actually find it quite. Yeah I did find a bit scary actually.

01:15:11.92
ukfilmreview
Boo Now you're right? You're right. I did is a bit where she turned round and his behind I was old god.

01:15:26.60
Brian Penn
And that saying something for me because I just like the imagination to be scared by horror. That's what I think it boils down to but this was really good. What I liked was kind of like the transition in the characters in the way they come across because Thea and louise were kind of these two sort of ultraconfident, funny. Cocky girls who are just having a bit of a giggle and gate crashing this camera crew making an advert or so they think then suddenly snap it all all changes doesn't it and the last half of the film I think was genuinely quite gripping. You could fill the hair on the back of your neck standing up.

01:15:54.28
ukfilmreview
E.

01:16:04.78
Brian Penn
You know it it was that kind of film. It did the job I think there were elements of the blair Witch project spring to mind you know all films remind me of another film somewhere along the line. Yeah yeah.

01:16:15.49
ukfilmreview
It kicks died the genre right? that very rarely do you know when a film genre was was made but I think yeah, everyone kind of will agree that it was the blair which project that did film footage. Um, yeah.

01:16:23.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, but um, you know there's nothing wrong with being being influenced by a film like because within the Horizonre blowr which is is up there isn't it. It's it's a leading light in in horror horror genre. But yeah I likes it. I think it was really good. It was well shot it was it was believable and it it did feel like it did feel like you were watching something on Youtube it did it did feel real so they they kind of got over that that hurdle of making people buy into it because you do you just feel that it's real. You know? and yeah, very good. It's very effective. It does the job and you know the um the one of the scariest parts of it for me though is the is the I think we you played a clip that featured him was the guy with the glass is the. The professor or the the ah the expert historian that's it. Yeah um, but I trouble finding the right words tonight Chris thank you for helping me out there. Ah we see you're gonna do it when I'm not expecting it I'm really gonna.

01:17:21.65
ukfilmreview
Like Historian guy. Yeah, who's on yeah that so I'm just waiting the best time to scare you I Just gonna scare you and with the word That's right? yeah.

01:17:38.65
Brian Penn
Got a go night. Yeah, but no I thought he's really good I Thought he wass really good and I think he's gone down quite well isn't it. It's been getting some good reviews.

01:17:45.98
ukfilmreview
Yeah, it's done very well at certain festivals and things I think it is actually um, quite a bigger film in terms of like it's had some big reviews. It's had some um attention brought to it I think it's it's backed by Apple.

01:17:55.62
Brian Penn
Oh right.

01:18:01.14
ukfilmreview
Um, because of the found footage I might be wrong I think ah the director if he's in contact with him because um I wanted to get a clip and I had some issues with the watching of it. Matthew Butler Hart very lovely chap um had said something about there. Be involved with Apple. Um, so. I think it's it's showing what can be done using phones now and I think that is incredible. You look at this film. It does not feel any different to the type of horrors that you can watch in the found footage genre. Um, and even even without that you even outside of that because that.

01:18:20.50
Brian Penn
And.

01:18:37.60
ukfilmreview
Also it's so smartly arranged that I have a couple of gripes towards the end where I am a bit like would you still be holding the camera at this point but even so but but generally for like 99% the film. It's like yeah the way they set that up was.

01:18:45.35
Brian Penn
All right? Yeah, the.

01:18:56.00
ukfilmreview
Authentically done that you would say yes they would have put a camera there because they explained why there's a camera there or why they're still holding the cameras or doing selfies. Um, and even at the end. My last bit was kind of oh why they still hung the cameras. But I think it was largely because they had lights on them and they were holding them to sort of use them as lights.

01:18:57.23
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:19:10.15
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:19:13.32
ukfilmreview
More than actually as cameras. So I kind of will let that light pass but why have a problem with when people use the genres often because it's like yeah but people would have just dropped their cameras by this point and run right? That's just what they would do but in this situation The cameras had already been placed. They'd already. There was a reason for them to be in there and the whole.

01:19:24.30
Brian Penn
So. Yeah.

01:19:33.26
ukfilmreview
Setup of the film at the beginning we get told is that all this footage has been found and used by the police and then a group of filmmakers got together to put it into the film to show you what happened so it gives that sense of all this could have happened like obviously clearly it didn't but you know like with Blair which there was people that felt that the blowitch was real because they just delivered it so well.

01:19:40.22
Brian Penn
So there. Yeah, so yeah, it feels real. Yeah yeah course So yeah.

01:19:52.58
ukfilmreview
And created that myth around it and I think that this is is just as good as bleitch just as good um feels more modern feels like it's tapping into that social media generation. The idea of like Youtube vigilantes you know, causing chaos I love the fact that their names are nearly thelma and louise right? It's like theater.

01:19:57.58
Brian Penn
There there.

01:20:04.91
Brian Penn
And I yeah know and but yeah, they did. But yeah and I.

01:20:12.23
ukfilmreview
And they play on that right? and he's said why don't you change your names I don't want to change where they um but don't are. That's the other thing I wanted to really draw attention to the chemistry between those 2 actresses was incredible I could have genuinely watched their Youtube channel I hope they start one. Um.

01:20:21.14
Brian Penn
Yeah, it was yeah.

01:20:29.79
ukfilmreview
Yeah, so Riz Maritz and Elie Duckles were just excellent. They they really secured the film because the first like section of them of them going through the countryside and causing a bit of banter along the way was just what you needed it wasn't like the whole kind of.

01:20:32.48
Brian Penn
So well. Where the. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I.

01:20:46.30
ukfilmreview
Oh going to a scary house. Oh wonder what's going to happen. It was like no no, even no I idea what's going to happen with these two girls because they are just so reckless and so like just off the cuff deck. Yeah, she's she's going off for a pee. She decides to keep a a camera on. Yeah, she's just doing that.

01:21:01.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, but yeah does and it makes more believable as well because you know with this this approach to filmmaking is that it has to feel real. You have to sort of believe that it's happening and the the fact they do. They seem to have ah a proper relationship there. There is a friendship there.

01:21:01.29
ukfilmreview
I Think that really added a sense of comedy to the film as well that you needed. Yeah.

01:21:19.74
Brian Penn
There is kind of like chemistry and there's a rapper between them that that you get straight away so that makes it even more convincing. Um, but yeah, you got to be impressed with it the way it's been been done and the way it's been made.

01:21:36.26
ukfilmreview
very very good um don't know if I don't think the film is out yet because it sounded like they were still doing lots of touring. But if you um, check out Fiz and ginger films dot code at UK that's fiz with two zeds and ginger. Um, they are the the sort.

01:21:37.37
Brian Penn
Yeah, if you're already good.

01:21:41.74
Brian Penn
And.

01:21:53.84
ukfilmreview
That the company name I believe and they've got Instagram Fis and Ginger Films Twitter Fis and ginger. So yeah, plenty of um, ways to check them out again if not head to our website with the review. There's probably a trailer and you can find it on through there.

01:22:07.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, is something. Yeah there.

01:22:09.44
ukfilmreview
But strongly recommend it I am I'm really excited about that. It's something that maybe Rachel on the screen test podcast that we have she should review it. You know she should check it out because yeah, that's a really and great piece of horror filmmaking there. So yeah, dagger spelt D a g r by the way I know I said it earlier but' gonna say it again.

01:22:27.55
Brian Penn
And yeah, and thorough and thorough. Ah yeah.

01:22:27.79
ukfilmreview
Because I am nothing if not repetitive and boring. Okay I'm sorry oh I'm sorry that's what I meant to say not boring thorough. That's dagger we're moving on to a short film now I'm titled the a CTT so the act. Um.

01:22:42.33
Brian Penn
Oh yeah.

01:22:46.74
ukfilmreview
Which was reviewed on the website already by Jason Knight and we are reviewing him on the on the podcast. It's to do with a community theater I didn't quite catch the name of the the a the aquanic I had what did you have for fit the theater. Yeah, 2 theaters.

01:23:00.60
Brian Penn
Yeah qua community Thea Thea wasn't it 2000 as like yeah.

01:23:06.64
ukfilmreview
Which they make a joke about in in the ah the film. Um, it's kind of done in this sort of moary style where they're almost sort. Yeah talking about their theater and and the things that go on there. There's a ragtag group of actors and crew. Um, and then you know sort about the idea of putting on.

01:23:14.89
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:23:25.66
ukfilmreview
Ah, New play. And yeah, you've got this sort bizarre director who sort of thinks a lot of himself but he's just kind of like a local guy. You've got an actor who she sort of comes from maybe above this sort of type of community theater. But yeah, she's sort of roughing it I Guess Um, yeah, there's a few different characters in there and we sort of given.

01:23:28.62
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:23:35.69
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:45.20
ukfilmreview
Um, an insight into what happens within these these bases. Um, very low budget I think they actually told us that the budget was about $500 which I mean that wouldn't get you very much at all. So yeah, they they've done very well to create this short film it. It's ah it's not a.

01:23:46.68
Brian Penn
And.

01:23:54.60
Brian Penn
I now and I and I like that. Well really? Well yeah.

01:24:04.45
ukfilmreview
Tiny film movie is on um for a little bit and um, yeah, it goes through ah a different type of plot I think in terms of trying to tie in so there's like this main guy who's the sort of um, the lead character I guess.

01:24:17.92
Brian Penn
He.

01:24:21.40
ukfilmreview
And there's a reason why we're watching it and which happens sort of more towards the end as to why they're struggling financially. But oh I spoil that I feel that's a bit of a spoiler. Um, but yeah, what do you think of the act.

01:24:24.57
Brian Penn
I yeah yeah, no ah I think it is a really really good effort I really enjoy watching it the the fact that you've got this It's um, what we would call amdra in the Uk. You know you'd call it community theateratre in America. It's like the kind of the second set or the third tier of this. Ah you know it's where aspiring a learn their trade and. It's interesting to get that kind of friction between different characters where one of them is an equity card holder a professional actor who's used to something much bigger and is used to playing bigger audiences and trying to prove how superior she is which I quite like and then there's the other girl. Who's who's super enthusiastic who's bragging about the part she had in little women in a local production but its not doesn't quite pan out that way and then you've got the ah the direction they've all got huge egos really in their own way. Ah, he's he's trying to big himself up and if they're making ah.

01:25:34.82
Brian Penn
they're they're doing he's play basically um and he's directing it so you got all of that going on. Ah I think it's really good fun because it's just what happens in and the amateur amateur fit theatrical companies is that you've got lots of egos that people that have different expectations from what they're doing. Some are doing it for fun. Some see it as a stepping stone there are people on the way up in the profession. There are people on the way down and all that is kind of packed into like 10 to 15 minutes and I think it's really great, really great. It's cute. The way it's been put together and the fact they've done it on such a limited budget as well. I think it deserves a lot of credit. Good phone.

01:26:13.60
ukfilmreview
Yeah, I'm always impressed by people that do take an idea in they run with their yeah with limited resources I'm the filmmakers. So it's directed by Colby Cyrus and it's written by Andrew Madeirro and they both star in the film as well. Um, but I think.

01:26:25.45
Brian Penn
So.

01:26:30.44
ukfilmreview
They've submit films to the site previously and I think I love that passion. There's definitely an element of ah, almost poking fun at this world even like the filmmaking world as well. There's a bit where they talk about a film festival like said, no one cares about your film that won the the larvi da award in the random.

01:26:39.19
Brian Penn
I mean Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fin it the Phoenix It's a film festival. Something wasn't yeah.

01:26:49.13
ukfilmreview
Fell through wherever and I think yeah and I thought that's such a yeah important part of this film terms of what they're do they they're sending themselves up almost. You're sending up their own livelihood in their own place. But there's a lot of heart. There's a lot of characters that you could feel that were genuine and and you.

01:26:56.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:09.00
ukfilmreview
True to the sort nature of who you come across? Let you say we are amateur dramatics in the uk I do drama at ah, 6 form and yet you had these sort of people that were very much that sort of way. But um, yeah I think it's that film that will connect with people that have ever experienced this type of world. Especially from the inside. Um.

01:27:14.81
Brian Penn
Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:28.42
ukfilmreview
I Don't know whether the film has much longevity around other than that I in terms of will a wider audience. Enjoy this I think it's quite limited by its scope. Ah yeah, in terms of what it can do. But I think you that it would it will touch a nerve with the people that that connect with it. The idea of it.

01:27:34.53
Brian Penn
Yeah I I yeah you will do I Also I think it's a good showcase for the the directs on the writer it shows what they can do on on a shoestring. Really.

01:27:48.23
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

01:27:54.32
Brian Penn
And for what it is is well well it's self-contained. It's well put together and it works. But as you say probably not that you know it's probably not as accessible as some stories because as you say it's It's very niche isn't it So people that have been involved in the the. I mean I write this review So I kind of got more of it than maybe some people would have done because I've had some experience of it through the ah reviews I've written for first. So I get it. But it might not work for everyone and some of the they're in jokes aren't they. There's some jokes that might only work. If you if you work in that environment but aside from that. Yeah yeah, exactly yeah.

01:28:33.67
ukfilmreview
And it was yeah if you very expect. Yeah if you experienced characters like this before you'll kind of go. Oh yeah, That's yeah, That's what that person's like um, but yeah I think it's a very good effort special on that budget and again proof fear that these filmmakers are capable of doing a lot with. Not much yeah terms of resources I Just think that there is definitely a limitation to the appeal of the act but you can let us know you know you can go and watch the film if and when it's available I don't again I don't think it is um although the link we had. Yeah I mean check out.

01:28:54.12
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, I'd agree. Yeah.

01:29:08.59
ukfilmreview
Um, instagram.com and go to skip productions films. They'll have more information there you follow them. But I'm sure they'll be able to direct you to the movie if and when it becomes available for public consumption. But um.

01:29:13.72
Brian Penn
So.

01:29:26.36
ukfilmreview
Yeah, that's the act. Um, one of the 2 short films that we're reviewing the second short film written and directed by Elias suhel called beneath a mother's feet again. Don't have a clip of this which is a shame because it's a.

01:29:29.43
Brian Penn
Is in.

01:29:44.87
ukfilmreview
Only powerful film Brian Drnna do the synopsis on this one.

01:29:45.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, so tells the story of we dad a single mother who's trying to survive day to day in roco ah very skillfully put together minimal dialogue. But. It relies more on visuals to convey feelings and emotions and it's dealing with a very bleak outlook of very bleak life but you you get so much from it. But they're not it is an overburdened with dialogue I mean like it's only 50 minutes long but it doesn't overdo. It. It doesn't give you too much to. Take on board but you appreciate the situation. She's in and the decisions that she has to make and the impact that it has on her and others around her. The fact that she is a single mother. She has the opportunity to remarry and this gentleman wants to take it. Her and her 2 children on and the conversation she has with her parent that which is the key conversation in some ways where they're saying but not many men would take on ah a woman with 2 children and that's a very sort of a very sort of engrossing sort of dialogue. And it kind of sets it up. Um, but very so very sensitive very perceptive but gets the message across without cramming too much dialogue into the time they've got available but I thought it was really good, really powerful really moving. So.

01:31:15.26
ukfilmreview
Yeah I think you're right about the the dialogue as well that that absence of dialogue it really makes you question like the emotion of the piece instead and you start to feel more of what is going through her head. There's a bit where she's on the balcony.

01:31:21.52
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:31:32.27
Brian Penn
So.

01:31:34.00
ukfilmreview
And she's not doing I think she's just finally catching a breather from her situation and then her neighbor kind of interrupts her and she sort of gets back to work and she just again doesn't really say much even though the neighbor's kind of like rattling off about her day and what she's got to do that. There's this sense of such an internal struggle.

01:31:36.85
Brian Penn
The. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

01:31:52.77
ukfilmreview
This character. Um, and like say yeah, the conversation with her parents about this this gentleman that will take her on. It's really strong. There's also a adult I'm not going to spoil this but there is a scene where she goes to the bathroom that something happens and it is.

01:32:05.71
Brian Penn
The.

01:32:11.70
ukfilmreview
That I mean that was first off, not really expected and secondly wow how well was that film that was amazing. That's so good. Um, and it's tying into for me it tied into sort of these ideas of postnatal depression. It typed. Yeah things about expectations of.

01:32:14.21
Brian Penn
But no yeah I know yeah I know it was good. It's very well done. And.

01:32:29.30
ukfilmreview
Genders and things like that. Yeah and the way so you've got the silence which is really powerful but there's also the framing they were framing this actor really well often like very strong Close-ups or blurring her family in the background.

01:32:35.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:46.98
ukfilmreview
The neighbor who I mentioned you can't actually see her. She's not really brought into the into the picture and it's almost like our central character has just been detached from this this. So her surroundings are not her reality. It's almost like what my why am I here and I think that explains us to what happens in the sort of latter part of the film.

01:32:54.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's very good though I think her name's Nisrene adder. Very good, very charismatic. She's got real presence and.

01:33:05.13
ukfilmreview
Yeah.

01:33:13.88
ukfilmreview
Um, in.

01:33:14.33
Brian Penn
You know, certain scenes are so perceptive where they don't say anything you know one of the one of the hardest things to do for a filmmaker is to write silence into her scripts and be confident enough to leave it there and not fill that silence with words. There was 1 thing where she's preparing vegetables.

01:33:32.12
ukfilmreview
Yeah, yeah.

01:33:33.10
Brian Penn
You know the same I mean and she's kind of cutting an onion in half and just chopping it furiously in her hand and that in itself is so kind of a manifestation of her own frustrations about her life of what's going on and how she wants to change things. But there's no dialogue there. She's not saying anything. No One's talking to her. But it's just her a knife and a vegetable but you kind of get something from that you know the firsticalaxy of that scene is actually quite impressive when you look at it because I watched this film twice I don't normally do it with short films I don't normally watch them twice but I watched this one twice because I was curious and I wanted to pick up more. From it but very good for it. Very very good, Very impressed. Excellent.

01:34:15.40
ukfilmreview
Yeah, really powerful. It's got a lot of strong themes strong filmmaking. But it's also that that's all there. But it's also subtle and soft at times as well that the way the lighting is done and the way that kind of telling this film very heartfelt I Ah yeah.

01:34:26.35
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:34:34.68
Brian Penn
The.

01:34:35.25
ukfilmreview
I was really moved by I mean I'm a parent and and for me yeah, very strong film to watch Gay I watch it twice I do that with most shorts if I can but it was yeah well worth another watch and yeah, even just for that bathroom scene again I was like Wow that's incredible. Um, yeah.

01:34:42.81
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah I know I know it stays with you doesn't it really? yeah.

01:34:54.50
ukfilmreview
If you are um, looking for information about the film. There's a website dedicated to it so beneath a mother'sfeat dot com or obviously 1 word or there's an Instagram page I believe of the filmmaker which is at DA r underscore elias

01:35:13.90
Brian Penn
So.

01:35:13.19
ukfilmreview
So E L I a s spelling that out for you. So hopefully you can find it. But if you do get stuck please just let us know or you can head to our social media where if we are able to we would have tagged the film worker when we promoted our written review of the film just give you a little insight into how we help there. Yeah.

01:35:18.18
Brian Penn
Me.

01:35:25.93
Brian Penn
Yeah, maybe.

01:35:30.96
ukfilmreview
Can always go to us. Um I'm going to help another film right now. Um, so this was a film. We reviewed a while back and we're not doing a review and we're just doing a bit of a shout out to be honest swatti verma reviewed it back in May Twenty Twenty Two films called blank shas.

01:35:50.79
ukfilmreview
I believe it's a short film and yes it the filmmakers got in touch with us. We reviewed it. Give it a very good review. A Fourstar review they got in touch recently to say that it was now available to watch in full on the Youtube channel called dust which I think shows a lot short films or sciphon films and things. Um.

01:36:02.55
Brian Penn
Ah.

01:36:06.72
Brian Penn
What.

01:36:10.40
ukfilmreview
So yeah, it's available to watch on those channel in full and if you want to you can even watch it on our website because if you go to the review for Blank Shaws at the bottom of the review is the full film embedded in the review currently now I say currently because if you're listening to this in the future that may not be there because often these films.

01:36:16.44
Brian Penn
And plastic. Wow.

01:36:28.98
ukfilmreview
Don't stay on platforms. They don't stay all Joers Well I'll end up with a broken video but for now very happy to say that it works as all for recording and um, yeah I'm gonna watch it and I don't think I've seen it yet. So yeah, yeah, and what great value. We're providing here you can literally go onto our website and watch a whole film.

01:36:30.36
Brian Penn
But yeah, ah yeah I'm I'm gonna watch shit as well cause Love i' seeing. So.

01:36:45.13
Brian Penn
Online then.

01:36:48.59
ukfilmreview
For free just go and do it blank shores. It's called and so yeah, that is available now. Um, now that's all the indie films reviewed all the streaming all the cinema. So all that's left is our nostalgia pick and we are heading back to the same year I believe that we headed back last.

01:37:01.33
Brian Penn
Wow! yeah.

01:37:07.50
Brian Penn
Good. Yeah.

01:37:08.59
ukfilmreview
Last month we went to, we reviewed ghost bussters from 1984 and we're going back again to 9 8 4 to review gremlins ah written by Chris Columbus who always has a yeah strong place in my heart. He's written many of my favorite 90 s movies. Um, yeah, and even.

01:37:15.45
Brian Penn
Oh.

01:37:21.82
Brian Penn
Yeah.

01:37:27.90
ukfilmreview
Harry Potter he was seated the first Harry Potter directed by Joe Dante um ah do we need to say what gremlins is about I feel most people must know what gremlins is above quick rundown. Um you go for Brian you you love these bits. Don't you.

01:37:35.70
Brian Penn
Well, you think so wouldn't you really But oh that's an a quick rundown all right? Then it's a nice simple storyline Randall Paler is the inventor is looking for a present free sum. He buys a mysterious and cute creature called a magwa the celler warns him not to expose him to bright, light and water nor should he feed him after midnight or else biles. We know you've got a set of rules. What do you do you ignore them. Don't you. Simple as that and um, it goes on to ah well it it kind of um elaborates on what could happen if you're told not to do something and it's brilliant. It's it's still. Still one of those films that wears well is false years old which I find incredible I never realized it was forty years old and a bit like ghostbusters you you look at how well the the special effects have worn over the years and if we're really honest, you know the. Some of the special effects look a bit a bit basic now I guess um, but it still works and it's still great fun and there are still great things to pick out. There aren't I you know with the the g grams break dancing and smoking and getting drunk and you know it's still so well done.

01:39:00.39
ukfilmreview
Um.

01:39:03.21
Brian Penn
And the fact that it's co-produced by Steve Spilberg gives it that extra that extra dose of polish doesn't it really, but still great fun. It's I mean I enjoyed it when it was firsted out when it first came out and I enjoyed it now. It's just one of those films. It's a classic eighty s film isn't that.

01:39:18.99
ukfilmreview
Yeah, that's why I picked it because for me I had only a very vague memory of it like my brother used to watch it. He was a bit older than me and I remember being a bit scared because I must have been or been about sort of maybe 5 or 6

01:39:33.83
Brian Penn
The the.

01:39:36.89
ukfilmreview
7 when my brother's putting this on. Yeah that age would terrify. Um I've even completely forgotten that it's basically a Christmas film right? because he's he's at set at Christmas and he gets he gets the boy the present for Christmas um, and there's there's some snow and all that sort stuff. But.

01:39:44.50
Brian Penn
Yeah I forgot about that Actually I must admit. Yeah, no.

01:39:55.11
ukfilmreview
Really holds up and I think it's because of the practical effects being used. Yeah, they're using a lot of puppetry and and things like that and I think you know that's absolutely fine. Just still side note weirdly actually I heard that obviously they're doing a new and beetlejuice film and Tim Burton was saying about going back to more of that sort of filmmaking ah doing the practical stuff and.

01:40:05.82
Brian Penn
All right.

01:40:14.60
ukfilmreview
Because it wanted it to feel like that again, you know, not just relying on tgi.

01:40:16.22
Brian Penn
Well Bc this is the thing though. Chris isn't it I mean maybe that's the key is to go back to something a bit more basic that it you know it's to so I mean this is why my opening comments were focusing on the special effects because they look pretty basic by today's standards but what's wrong with that.

01:40:34.70
ukfilmreview
E.

01:40:35.86
Brian Penn
You know what's wrong with it being the way it was you know I think you can come up with something that's a bit too clean and a bit too stile. So I'm pleased to hit Tim Button It is looking back rather than just looking forward and just taking the easy way out which is the often the way we seegi now is that.

01:40:53.16
ukfilmreview
Yeah, and I think this is that sort of era where you did have some special effects. Yeah, we saw in ghostbusters. You know we sort of see the lights and things that but it wasn't too crazy. Um, especially not to modernize. But.

01:40:53.17
Brian Penn
Can sight the easy want.

01:40:58.97
Brian Penn
So.

01:41:07.81
ukfilmreview
With gremlins like I didn't really feel that there was that much special effects going on a lot of it was just kind of practical stuff albeit not that well done like. For example, there's obviously fake snow coming down like it is obviously that sort of thing but I I think there are also bits to to genuine needs or scary that.

01:41:17.63
Brian Penn
Well yeah.

01:41:26.49
ukfilmreview
Ah, gremlins do kind of still spook you up a little bit. Um I mean maybe not you Brian because you're not afraid of anything apparently but you know.

01:41:27.18
Brian Penn
So yeah, yeah, I so well yeah I know well of course naturally but I mean the thing is one one particular scene that I think is quite um, would be quite alarming for some is whether the is where the ah the bad griman shall we say. Break out the chrysalis or break out of the cocoon that's quite that's quite yeah yeah it was yeah yeah, that's a good analogy with alien yeah islandsia definitely so yeah, it still works on that level and you know I quite like the ah the special effects that were done back then you know we.

01:41:47.49
ukfilmreview
Yeah, yeah, that bit alienesque wasn't it. It felt like that sort of film. Yeah.

01:42:05.45
Brian Penn
Mentioned guy bosters just now I mean I saw a clip of the new ghost bussters film which we'll review in the next episode the new film but the the effects for the for um, the new ghostbusters film does strike me as being very reminent reminiscent of the first ghost bosters film that. They haven't kind of given it this radical makeover. It's like they kind of taken it and think right? We'll just preserve that and we'll maintain it and there's a degree of constuency there and it doesn't become this very sort of clean sterile treatment that can. But leave me cold. Let's put it that way you know.

01:42:43.35
ukfilmreview
Yeah I agree and I think touching back on these films has been such a nice treat because you do sort of capture that sense of films that obviously we're speaking to people that were born in that century. Yeah, that were worn around these object. Yeah that we were going to have that feeling towards them. It might be different for.

01:42:48.95
Brian Penn
I.

01:43:00.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:43:02.71
ukfilmreview
Modern modern eyes but I certainly think that especially what we're seeing now with this sort of um, splurge of Marvel films not doing very well because they're just failing to capture the storytelling that they've got all the special effects still but the stories of rubbish that.

01:43:14.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:43:19.49
ukfilmreview
Or even modern audiences are getting turned off from that because they want the good stories and I think gramner's is a great story. It's such a fun thing and ah a cool idea. Is it executed really well over a Christmas period and there's that sort of genuine sense of threat and peril from these creatures.

01:43:23.47
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:43:32.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I it's it. It's it's it's done it I just say it's really cool. You know we use that word call don't we we we know it and we know it when we see it but you can't redefine it being cool but it's one of those films that will always be cool.

01:43:36.14
ukfilmreview
It just gets delivered really really well.

01:43:50.47
ukfilmreview
So I Brian I already know my mom said that I'm cool. So that's that done? Yep yep! Thank you.

01:43:52.14
Brian Penn
And a way and I oh well. Okay, are you the definition of call it. Ah right? Okay, yeah, fair enough fair enough? Yeah ah, but yeah, um, yeah, its I also saw another thing about these these films and the nostalgia slot that we're doing is that. Kind of feel a ah case of where are they now coming on because there are actors featured that you think god what happens to them and in this film you got people like Phoebe cakes and Jake Galligan you know who are kind of you know they're vaguely around somewhere but they're not anywhere near. Being an a-list actor anymore. Do you I mean they have their time in Cory Phil you know now as's interesting. You mentioned Cory Feldman because 2 years after this film was made stand by me came out and we reviewed stand by me didn't we on the nostalgia slot and I can't believe.

01:44:33.65
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah, no Corey Feldman I think is in it. Um.

01:44:45.18
ukfilmreview
Um, yeah.

01:44:50.93
Brian Penn
Ah, two years elapse between these films because Cory Feldman in gremlins looks about 7 8 but in stand by me. He looks about 15 and he's put on a couple of stone I with um, but maybe that's just my imagination I know but um, but i's just interested to see the why a's careers ebb and flow and.

01:44:58.17
ukfilmreview
Um, just said out out.

01:45:10.73
Brian Penn
They experience different fortunes but they they have their time in the sun. Don't they but it seems to be more common in the a s where you you see a lot of Axs you think they're going to be the next big thing and they fought by the wayside for various reasons and oh yeah.

01:45:25.80
ukfilmreview
That's right, it's all down to decision making. Um and if you've decided to listen to this whole episode. Well done I mean this is a long one isn't it. We we have been through so much together Brian we've you know we've understood that you don't scare.

01:45:32.39
Brian Penn
So yeah on I Yeah I know I say what we we found a choer list. Um way.

01:45:41.24
ukfilmreview
That my mom thinks I'm cool and yet that there's some incredible phones right now. Um, it's massive I mean it's because as we're very fortunate. We get a lot of submissions to review on the podcast. We've already got some lined up for next month um

01:45:49.75
Brian Penn
Ah, really good sense. But.

01:45:56.19
Brian Penn
Alright.

01:45:59.30
ukfilmreview
And yeah, we're we're very very honored to be in this position. But yeah, thank you to the people that listen, especially right to the end my goodness I mean you're as crazy as us. Um, so yeah I mean my only advice would be to follow the Gremlin rules really you know don't get yourself wet. Don't eat after midnight or was the other ones.

01:46:01.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.

01:46:15.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, not bright lights Spriy lights sprayates. No bright lights.

01:46:18.27
ukfilmreview
Sunlight was it that I can't remember now. Yeah bright lights bright lights. But yes, thank you ad for listening. Thank you Brian again for your amazing reviews. Um, yeah, absolutely privileged to have you here as our chief film critic. Ah.

01:46:27.58
Brian Penn
No problem. Okay, Well thank you.

01:46:36.21
ukfilmreview
But yes, this has been the UKFilm review podcast with UKFilm club um and yeah, we'll see you again next time.

01:46:43.70
Brian Penn
Bye for now.