Priscilla - Argylle - Poor Things - UK Film Club Episode 12
UK Film Club
00:00.00
Chris Olson
So end of February already.
00:03.67
Brian Penn
Ah, no, that' I'm flying. You know be Christmas before you know it? ah and and and now you'll be thinking about Christmas presence soon I tell you you will.
00:07.50
Chris Olson
Are gonna are gonna try and leave it to at least June we start talking about Christmas again our to what we are. It's Oscar territory.
00:18.65
Brian Penn
But at the moment we're we're in the middle of a war season aren't we yeah.
00:26.29
Chris Olson
Um, and yeah, there's been lots of awards flying around. Um do do you keep track of all the awards shows Brian is that something you like to.
00:30.46
Brian Penn
I I try to but there are so many aren't they you know when it's usually when the golden globes start. You know that's the beginning. Don't you then you got the screen as guild or you've got the baftters and the screen as guild then the oscars. And is of course trying to keep track. But I think it's fairly clear. What the best films of the year have been I don't think they deviate very much. Do they I mean they say that the golden globes of the precursors to the oscars and they're a good indication of where they're thinking is but the word is Oppenheimer is new I think.
01:00.83
Chris Olson
Yeah I was gonna say do you think that's gonna win like yeah, it's already won several right at time of recording this? um I think it's goingnna win most of the ones left I haven't seen it. You've seen it haven't you.
01:07.21
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:12.56
Brian Penn
I I've seen it. Yeah I mean obviously I have my issues with it which are not that substantial to be honest I just found it slightly over abitious, but it is a very good film and I'd be quite happy if it won the Oscar for best best picture you know, particularly when you look at what else is nominated. But. Yeah, go. Perhaps we can talk about that post post. Ah Oscars but.
01:34.82
Chris Olson
Well I think it's one of those discussions that gets everyone very heated and I'm I'm so far behind because I don't catch up with the films as as quickly as I should but you're yeah, right on the front line of this all. Yeah, you're really watching all these films as they come out. Yeah was there a film.
01:40.20
Brian Penn
And.
01:49.75
Brian Penn
Ah, well yeah I know.
01:53.72
Chris Olson
Was there a film last year that you thought it was deserving of the Oscar but it's just nowhere near the yeah, the front line of the contenders.
01:59.25
Brian Penn
Yeah I mean there are certain films that never never quite get the attention they deserve and I think that's more the case case now than ever one film that always stood out for me, but that completely missed out any nominations of any note was till the film that Emmett till. The 14 year old boy who was lynched and ah murdered and it was more about the story of his mother Mamie how she showed the world what they did to her boy brilliant brilliant film but just completely got eclipsed in in the Oscars and the bathrooms nobody's sucking notice of it. And I think it is so sad. But I think that's the the products of the the age we live in now that certain films will not get the attention they deserve and some films are overpraed. it's it's odd
02:44.69
Chris Olson
I I definitely agree with that in terms of like the marketing strategy now like last month we reviewed saltburn and it's a good film. Don't get me wrong I think it's a very good film and I really enjoyed it. But it's I'd say it's.
02:56.64
Brian Penn
Me.
03:03.90
Chris Olson
Yeah, in the middle I don't I don't think it's anything particularly ah jaw dropping. There's the thing about it's a good. It's a very well-made film. but but I think because it had the Amazon star power machine behind it that everyone was talking about and like you say a film like till I remember you talking about that on our show last year
03:06.00
Brian Penn
I and I Then. And.
03:18.81
Brian Penn
I yeah.
03:21.78
Chris Olson
And ah, it's yeah, that's the type of film here. It needs to have a light shined on it. It needs people to go and see it. But if it got like a a minimal kind of theatrical release. You know people didn't You didn't get the bums on seats that it needed. Um, it just kind of gets lost in in the the waves of all the Cinema releases and I think.
03:25.40
Brian Penn
Ah I.
03:29.40
Brian Penn
You there? Yep, that's all it was down. So yeah.
03:41.15
Chris Olson
That's a bit of a shame sometimes but then awards season does also have the ability to shine a light on some gems because sometimes it does you you a few come through especially in the lesser known categories like you suddenly go oh that that won an Oscar for something and you go but better. Check it out because yeah, it wouldn't.
03:46.75
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.
03:59.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, it it makes you curious I mean I I think it's interesting because maestro's been nominated for an Oscar. It's got 4 or 5 nominations in the big categories and that's the life story of Leonda Bernstein which starts.
04:00.30
Chris Olson
Get that recognition if it wasn't at least half decent.
04:17.12
Brian Penn
Bradley Cooper and rosmond point and it's very good. Had a very limited release in order to qualify for an Oscar it has to go on theatrical release for a certain amount of time but you could literally have seen it on Netflix at the same time more or less you know, but they satisfy the rules and that's.
04:31.55
Chris Olson
Um, yeah.
04:36.32
Brian Penn
That's kind of the opposite. That's a film that that might have been might have flown under the radar had it not been for the yeah, the pulling power of Netflix it is very influential now.
04:49.12
Chris Olson
There you go well in this episode. Um, we are chock ah block I don't this has got to be 1 of our biggest slated ah list of films that we've ever tried to attempt? Um, so.
04:54.40
Brian Penn
I and I this a lot. Yeah.
05:05.69
Chris Olson
Welcome to UKFilm club if you're wondering what the hell is going on. Um, it is essentially Brian and myself um, discussing all manner of films we will cover cinema releases some streaming films indie films and also look back at a classic movie.
05:17.72
Brian Penn
And yeah.
05:23.53
Chris Olson
Um, I won't tell you what the classic film is right now but I will go dinner a Dan a dinner. Um because I've had it in my head. Yeah I've in my head quite a lot. Um, but yeah, we have got an enormous amount to get through. Um, so.
05:30.50
Brian Penn
Ah, very so very subtle. Yeah.
05:39.93
Chris Olson
Yeah, what we do is we like to review some of these films shine light on them. We have some that people have actually asked us to review it physically sent us so we'll get to those in the indie section. But first off, we're starting with the films that have been or are available at cinema recently. Um.
05:55.30
Brian Penn
And.
05:58.90
Chris Olson
And we even have a film both of us have seen this I hope um that isn't available yet. Um, it's coming out in March I believe I will look up the official ready state shortly? Um, but we were giving we were given a pre screener to this. Um.
06:07.69
Brian Penn
And.
06:14.19
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.
06:17.97
Chris Olson
And the film is called banel and aharma and now from your ums and Rs Brian you have seen this right? Yeah and um, whilst I look up the release date. You want to give a a quick synopsis on this one.
06:18.76
Brian Penn
Yeah I've seen it. Yeah.
06:28.72
Brian Penn
The yeah sure cool so beno and a dharma directed by ramaa to Leisai starring Katie Main and Mama do dialo a young couple in senegal must contend with the disapproval of their remote village and its elders a visually beautiful film. Great use of light shade and color. They've got the wire plains of Africa to film. So it looks absolutely stunning the storyline I found slightly thin on the ground. We've got this couple trying to break free of the tribe's influence and the fact that a dharma has refused to be head of the tribe. Which has led to supposedly led to a drought and the death of villagers I might see a bit more going on there but otherwise a very solid picture very well made beautifully short and some very sensitive portrayals there of. A different way of life and a way of life that we wouldn't comprehend that all a very simple life. A very austere life but not always a very happy life if the two carats is portrayed or anything to go by but good stuff. There's a lot of good stuff going on there.
07:39.16
Chris Olson
Yeah I think you're right in terms of that. Ah, for me, it felt like a gothic story and it was like you had this way of life that was completely like anything that we are used to in the Western world. Um, but there was so much going on there that was relevant. Yeah in terms of talking about.
07:53.66
Brian Penn
Button first.
07:56.88
Chris Olson
Gender roles and talking about expectations of the generations below and because Dma Obviously he's like the is a chief of the village but he's very young I think like his father died or or something and they are very keen on keeping those bloodlines in the.
08:08.00
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
08:15.94
Chris Olson
In the chiefdom as it were um and then so there's a lot of expectation on him as a male you know to provide not just for his own family. But for his village and yeah for everyone. Um, and then but he's torn because you've got this love story obviously with banal and yeah, you're like rooting for them as this.
08:23.96
Brian Penn
And here.
08:34.75
Brian Penn
So yeah and I know I know that? ah but it just makes you yeah it just makes you wonder what? what? an incredibly different life that we lead and the comfortable life that we lead compared to some but.
08:34.85
Chris Olson
Beautiful young couple. They dream of like digging their home out of the sand or on the outskirts of village and heartbreaking.
08:52.41
Brian Penn
The life they are living in their village in Senegal is probably no different from the life that their ancestors would have lived a hundred two hundred years ago that's what struck me about that is that progress in itself or what we would see as progress in the western world. Um literally stand still.
09:02.68
Chris Olson
Um.
09:11.30
Brian Penn
And that's what I find interesting about it. Um, but you know as I say visually, it's great to look at absolutely brits look at I mean you may well think that you can't go wrong filming in Africa really because the scenery is absolutely spectacular. But I like the way they handle extreme closeups. And they allow silence to drop into the story from science to time some I'll come back to with with other films that we're reviewing. But I think silence if you do it properly can be really effective in a script because you allow the stories to breathe the characters to breathe. And you have time to contemplate the story as well. So yeah.
09:51.17
Chris Olson
I Think it makes it that much more haunting as well as a film like because there's lots of different genres at play in this movie but it's definitely got horror elements to it like um, what happens in the story and some visuals as well I won't go into it but is this.
09:59.20
Brian Penn
I.
10:06.61
Chris Olson
A shot of her on top of a well and a red dress and it just really stuck and like you say I think that silence is so unnerving. It makes you go Oh it sends chills down and that's why like I said it felt gothic. It felt like ah um, a story that you would have told you know centuries ago.
10:07.63
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, and it. Yeah yeah. Um, know that.
10:26.27
Chris Olson
And there was something about it as well. That felt almost um so unnatural to it like it had this element of like what's going on around these characters around this village and yeah, they they allude to this as well. That yeah maybe she's um, done things to cause these.
10:32.13
Brian Penn
The.
10:45.10
Brian Penn
Yeah I.
10:45.25
Chris Olson
Ah, horrific things to start happening and and also it doesn't ever veer into that territory. It doesn't veer into that. Okay, right now we're going to get all gruesome like at all that's not at all what this film is like it's far more intelligent and mature than that It's more sophisticated I think it it causes you to do a lot of the.
10:53.98
Brian Penn
Good. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is which is more challenging it in a way where you don't see it like it's where the filmmaker leaves a certain amount inside your own head which I think is quite clever and not easy to do so.
11:04.46
Chris Olson
Imagining yourself I think um yeah.
11:19.60
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, it it just it's got a great look and a great field to it really has but you know it's the visuals that strike strike me more than anything else. But you know it is so I guess it is about tradition Superstition responsibility being passed down from father to son.
11:39.28
Brian Penn
And really I feel they're trying to break away from that tradition and live their own lives that seemed to be the the tenor of the story and it's a question whether they were able to do it or not and they have parental pressure on them. Don't they as well for them to do what what they feel is the right thing not necessarily what.
11:51.61
Chris Olson
Yeah.
11:58.19
Brian Penn
But now in a dharma think it's the right thing as well. So.
12:01.16
Chris Olson
I Think that came to sort of lot fruition with the like the expectation on Banel to like have children and I think that's a strong theme through this yeah terms of what's expected of men and what's expected of women and I must say Kaie Maini plays the banel character. She's.
12:07.76
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:20.79
Chris Olson
Incredible. She's so engaging to watch like you' you're watching her and absolutely lethal with a slingshot am I right? I mean those pop those poor birds. Yeah, no, um, but it's a fierce performance. It's really strong and I think on a film like this where.
12:21.86
Brian Penn
Yeah, you like yeah I'm gonna say yeah you will you were You wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of it Would you let's but put it that way you know, but but yeah, yeah.
12:40.32
Chris Olson
You know it's playing to its strengths like the the location's amazing, but it's not going many places so you do have that element of it's very claustrophobic. It's insular that you're relying heavily on the actors to do that sort of heavy lifting.
12:41.98
Brian Penn
And.
12:52.37
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah I think they've they've all got potential I think the lead employers in this film. You would imagine them going on from here and you know breaking out into the.
12:55.30
Chris Olson
And I think that they've got a great cast here and the direction's really good.
13:06.28
Chris Olson
Um.
13:10.57
Brian Penn
Us Strike British film industry. Shall we say but you can't imagine them staying put you know in other words I suppose what I'm saying is they won't stay provincial. They will break out of that because that they very photogenic both both leading as have got something there. You know? So yeah. Very solid piece I would say and.
13:33.54
Chris Olson
Go so bananaa dharma is out in cinemas in the Uk and Ireland on Fifteenth of March Twenty Twenty four depending on when you're listening to this um and has done really well at festivals you may have caught it at last year's bfi London film festival.
13:47.58
Brian Penn
And.
13:49.43
Chris Olson
It was also a can selection toronto as well. So it's it's done very well critically I yeah we were talking about till earlier this feels like the type of film again. It will go completely under the radar up and yeah, as much as we'd love to say that we're shining a light on it I I don't do you get that feeling that is not going to get.
14:01.60
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, yeah I think so it's it's not going to do great business Sadly, but that's no indication of how good it is. You know.
14:09.37
Chris Olson
The the eyes it deserves.
14:17.62
Chris Olson
Um.
14:17.90
Brian Penn
Because so many films now I think we often say this on film club that so many films deserve a bigger platform and deserve more praise but it almost works the wrong way around that films that deserve the Attention. Don't get nearly enough. And films that you think kind of yeah okay, but you know you shrug your shoulders a little bit but they go mad over it and I don't get it I mean I don't know it's all about opinions isn't it and you know some films have and and a natural momentum about Them. Don't they that there's ah.
14:37.20
Chris Olson
Yeah, 50
14:51.13
Brian Penn
They are self-perpetuating and they generate their own publicity and for some reason they work but it's not immediately obvious to me or pu for you but you know as I say you know, um, it's the way it works now but it doesn't you know it doesn't always make sense to me. Um, if I'm really being honest.
15:09.27
Chris Olson
There you go. It's not meant to make sense. But and that's the thing. Well hopefully the next film makes sense I'm George clooneys the boys in the boat.
15:10.70
Brian Penn
But there you go? No no, it'd be boring. It'd be boring if it made sense wouldn't it really? well.
15:23.36
Chris Olson
Um, you've seen this Brian I haven't seen these next cinematic films but Brian has what do you think of the the boys in the boat.
15:41.47
Chris Olson
3 2 1
15:43.22
Brian Penn
Okay, then. So let's do the basics then directed by George Clooney starring Joel Edson Callum Serner Hadley Robinson and Peter Guinness this is a true story based on the book written by Daniel James Brown the story begins in the mid. 30 s as Joe Rance is tryinges to pay his way through college Washington University are looking for rowers to fill their junior eights boat. The lucky 8 will get better and bald. But more importantly, a regular wage. They might even clinch a spot represents in the Usa at the 9036 Olympics Boys come under the watchful eye of coach al ubrickson who has the moulded scene that will compete with the wealthy ivy league universities Joe is gently motivated by a childhood sweetheart Joyce whose sense is a champion in the making now Chris this is all about underdogs fighting the system. Working class boys out to prove that money can't necessarily buy success. It's a touching story of sporting excellence and a desire to be the best. It's never cornney or sentimental but tells a story of honest graft and genuine endeavor. It was a much simpler world on the cusp of global conflicts yet these values still endure as an example of the way a good life should be lived I love this Chris I really think it's great for me the film of a month because yeah film and a month I got to say it of the 5 that we're looking at.
17:04.33
Chris Olson
Um, yeah, oh film in a month
17:12.54
Brian Penn
Say 6 including um, including benal ah and a armma. This is the best of them. It's a true story so it has more impact because you know it's a true story but it's told with a lot of guts and a lot of honesty I love the way George clearly directs. Rowing I don't think he's a particularly easy sport to capture on film either. You know you don't see a goal being scored or a touchdown or a try being scored. You're just you're just filming a boat on a river but the way he captures. It is absolutely brilliant I love it. There are really nice performances throughout. Peter Guinness is very good as the the grizzled boat builder. Really good. Love this. But as we've just mentioned that you know how great films can fly under the radar this one's going to do the same. It is still on general release. You've got a look for it. But I think it will be coming to the end of its run on theatrical release more's the pity because I think this is a terrific film. Really a lovely film.
18:22.64
Chris Olson
It looks fabulous and nice I Ah got a lot of time for clean these filmmaking and with a cast like this is yeah yeah, got a lot of reasons to to be watched I think you know that you say there's that essence of it's mostly about rowing that.
18:27.46
Brian Penn
I Yeah yeah.
18:36.95
Brian Penn
Yeah.
18:39.93
Chris Olson
It's going to fall outside a lot of genres you know sports films. Yes, that's a big category. But I mean I just googled like rowing films and there isn't really much on there that sort of I'd say that um that that big. It's not like boxing. Yeah, like boxing films you could list them all day. Um.
18:44.40
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
18:52.83
Brian Penn
And and yeah.
18:59.83
Chris Olson
But often with these stories. Obviously it's it's far more about the context. Yeah, obviously what's going on and I love films that are set in the depression era I think that's it's such a ah rich ah ground for stories and this sounds like 1 of those movies where it's going to be that I'm so glad I've heard that.
19:07.14
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, is.
19:17.54
Brian Penn
I yeah and one life about Nicholas Winson yeah yeah i. I
19:18.72
Chris Olson
Story it was like um in our previous episode. It was the anthony hopkins film was it one one life so was called well life. Yeah, but oh I never heard about and it was like such an important story that suddenly it's like yes we we know we we got that and that I think is really important, especially at the moment with. The way filmmaking is going yeah becoming more ah just bland like guess like just yeah that they they're trying to make the movies as cheaply as possible as blandly as possible that someone like Clooney who does have such a artistic.
19:42.79
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
19:53.64
Chris Olson
Merit to his name. He could have gone off and just been an action star but he hasn't like he's chosen to go and do this, you make these films I think they are worth our time. Um is it is it cinematic though. Is it worth the cinema visit. That's why I always wonder with these films.
19:57.52
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's a good point actually because because I would say most films do but a lot you can get away with this film. You've got to see on the big screen to see that have the full dynamic view get the benefit of dollby surround this has got to be seen on the on the big screen and. I think you realize what a very good director George Clooney is you know I I'm a a huge fan of Clooney as an actor and a director but he knows what he's doing. You know he's got a a great eye and he sees what's most important in a story now look you know what? a big fan of sport I am in general. I didn't know this story at all. You know when you vaguely are vaguely aware of it but I didn't know the background so I learned something new I felt slightly embarrassed that this was big. These are olympic ah competitors and I knew nothing about them and so. Even for me as a huge sports fan is something I didn't know about. So if I didn't know I'm sure there are a lot of people that won't be aware of the story as well. So.
21:08.95
Chris Olson
Absolutely yeah, you are doing a service Brian by telling us all about these films because yeah I wouldn't have known either. So that's the boys in the boat as Brian said currently on release. But.
21:12.14
Brian Penn
A hope sign I hope so that's that's that's my job. But if I can do that My job is done. Yeah.
21:25.79
Chris Olson
Very limited I'm probably going to go to streaming not not too long. Ah for that. But let's know what you think because it sounds like a fantastic movie. Um poison the boat now I watched the Elvis film recently. Um.
21:27.40
Brian Penn
And. Yeah, yeah, love it. Love it.
21:42.83
Brian Penn
Oh right? Yeah there. Alright yeah.
21:45.64
Chris Olson
1 called Elvis gives you a hint guys and girls and everyone in between that we're where we're going next to the next film. Um, and I thought that was really strong. Yeah bas lurman film. Ah great. Great movie. So I'm very intrigued to hear what you're gonna say about Sophia Coppola's Priscilla.
22:02.34
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah as you say directs by Sophie Copler very very solid director. Ah you know a careful hand on the tiller you'd expect to be to be good and it is good stars. Caylee spy and jacob ilauddi. Who we saw recently in sawburn don't we ah based on the book written by Priscilla Presley this is the story of her life within all this now because it's based on on the book written by Priscilla I don't doubt it's all Authenticicity. There's no exaggeration. No mudslinging. She's got no reason to lie and can only be a true account of what happened on that basis I find it disturbing and quite creepy. Actually let's make no bones about it. Elvis groomed Priscilla from a young age. She was fourteen years old when they met. He wouldn't let her go out to work. He told her what clothes to wear. It's a textbook study in coercive control if that's what happened if that's true. But I'm working on the basis that it is a true account and there's no reason why it wouldn't be but I put that proviso in um so fas of Elvis will not enjoy this film. You know they say never meet your heroes. I'd supplement that proverb and say never learn the truth about your heroes because you will be upset and disappointed. But you know it throws the light on the dark side of Elvis um, as I say Sophie Coppola does always does the sound job in the films that she makes although.
23:34.58
Brian Penn
I would say though that the the interior shots are are in darkness I'm not really sure what they were getting out there but the lighting was terrible and with the interior scene. So I'm not exactly certain why that was the case but otherwise very good film very well made and. Interestingly there are no Elvis songs on the soundtrack which are which I think is a good move in some ways because it's not necessarily about Elvis it's about Priscilla but there's a great soundtrack of 6 sixty s and 50 s music but a good solid tell and as I say quite.
23:53.35
Chris Olson
All right.
24:10.44
Brian Penn
Quite disturbing in it in its own way. Very effective very well made.
24:15.93
Chris Olson
It's interesting. Yeah I I hadn't heard amazing things I sort of read some good reviews and some sort of middling reviews and I think of just my my very limited knowledge of Elvis and Priscilla Hours I thought yeah it's definitely a.
24:21.80
Brian Penn
So yeah.
24:31.54
Chris Olson
A person of history that deserves a a film you to find out. Yeah, she was so close to Elvis but also had her own story to tell. Um, and I think these the sort of films and stories that if you're a aficionaddo of the time. Yeah, you're gonna you're going to watch it like say and and you'll know the history whether it's true or not.
24:32.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
24:43.80
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.
24:51.50
Chris Olson
Um, I don't personally I don't care if it's true or not like I find sometimes that does get in the way like people get a bit funny about it. Oh well that didn't happen like this and it's like yeah but you know they've got to tell this story right? It's not about yeah what actually physically happened.
24:59.13
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah I Ah I.
25:07.78
Chris Olson
Um, I mean even documentaries don't do that like even documentaries have to try and like yeah, kind of put together some narrative. Um, but I I Also think that you say that when there is authenticity when you are at least sure of the source that you can kind of go.
25:08.60
Brian Penn
I yeah.
25:25.85
Chris Olson
Be a bit more invested in it I guess because it's like okay, watch know some of this is gonna be based on truth Obviously you take it with a pinch of salt. But there's a there's a enhanced viewing experience there because the narrative is coming from that person.
25:26.80
Brian Penn
Yeah.
25:34.55
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, I mean even for Priscilla, it's an interpretation of the life that she had with Elvis right? Who better who who better placed to to talk about Elvis than Priscilla she was married to but again like I say you always kind of put that. That health warning on it. But then again as she points out. It's interpretational isn't it. It's what you see it's what you experienced. It's the it's the spin you put on the facts right? And in 1 person's eyes. It's going to be totally spot on in somebody else's eyes. It won't be you know and.
25:58.39
Chris Olson
B.
26:14.14
Brian Penn
That's I suppose. That's the challenge of of putting true events on screen is that you can't always be absolutely faithful to the truth. But it's supposedly based on a firsthand account on that on that basis. You'd go with it and say well. Yeah I mean. And you you put yourself in her shoes and what she must have gone through and you know that everyone you know everyone has a dark side. 1 thing I would say about this film like um Jacob Ilaudie who plays Elvis who we saw in saltburn is one hell of an accent. He. Perfective elvis' southern draw down to a sea. Absolutely brilliant. You know you wouldn't think he's australian Jacoblaudie and in saltburn he played a character with us. You know, ah a home county's accent and you wouldn't have thought he was lost anything but english you know and there he is.
26:53.85
Chris Olson
Shift.
27:11.69
Brian Penn
Playing ah a high profile historical figure like Elvis with as authentic a southern american accent as you'll ever find. He's definitely ones who watch I was really impressed with him.
27:24.63
Chris Olson
There you go fans of Jacob Alaudy will be very happy to hear that. Um, so that's Priscilla yet currently in theaters as well. But um, at the time that you're hearing this. It may not be but do let us know what you think because some more's intrigued. Um.
27:33.35
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So.
27:41.10
Chris Olson
Now this next film has been talked a lot about is a lot of people obviously big fan of the director yogoslanthemos um, and I've I've seen a lot of different things I'm intrigued see what Brian is going to make of poor things.
27:55.46
Brian Penn
Yeah, right? Okay, so this you know it's on general release doing good business um directed by as you just mentioned Yorgos Manthem Latheus mathhammo.
28:08.34
Chris Olson
Lathemo You are well is one of the few directors where I was like'm gonna learn that one. Um because I love the lobster thought lobster and the killing of the sacred deer both fabulous films i' so I'm intrigued to see with this one.
28:10.50
Brian Penn
But you've been rehearsing them I can yeah hello.
28:18.61
Brian Penn
Yeah, he's he's a very capable director for sure. This is starring Emma Stone Willem Defoe and Mark Ruffalo what we have here is a female version of Frankenstein with some bells and whistles added. This is the tale of Bella Baxter a young woman who is brought back to life by a brilliant and highly unorthodox scientist called Godwin Baxter Bella's life takes an unexpected turn when she escapes the gilded cage built by the doctor she lands in Paris where her life is never quite the same again now. I would have to say this is ah a very well-made film. It's a good picture I'm not denying that for a second but what I am surprised by is acclaim that it's received again. It ties in with what we were discussing earlier on about films that. Get passed over films that are overpraised. This film has been nominated for 11 oscars and it's won five baftters and I'm whilst it's good I'm not sure it's that good. Um, you know it's actually very explicit. The sex things are really really explicit leave nothing to the imagination. It's virtually all I can remember the film really strange that isn't it. But anyway, um, it leaves nothing to the imagination as I said and it obscures what is a very intriguing story. You know it has its merits. It's it's good but it's not that good and
29:36.59
Chris Olson
Yeah.
29:52.97
Brian Penn
The fact that it's got fire baters already shows. How highly regarded it is but this is where you've got an academy of elected representatives voting for a film set against what the public might vote for so there is that kind of tradeoff and we've got the same scenario with the with the oscars as well. Very good film. It's good, but it's not that good if I can put it that way.
30:18.22
Chris Olson
Ah Wow I mean I wasn't expecting that but it it hasn't put me off watching it at all because I think yeah I've I've recommended his films before to people I said oh you should watch the lobster and they've done that awkward thing where they've come back to me and gone. Yeah I couldn't get through it and I'm like oh okay, yeah, right? Um, and.
30:23.31
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
30:36.61
Brian Penn
Ah.
30:36.86
Chris Olson
Like if you haven't seen cu funny enough Barry Keegan who we reviewed in saltburn last month keeps coming up that film. Um he he was in the killing of a sacred deer I wouldn't recommend that lightly to anyone because it's quite is a very dark film. Um, so with this I think you if.
30:41.12
Brian Penn
Yeah I know Strangeise isn't it. Yeah. And.
30:55.54
Chris Olson
If you're in that genre and you're happy with that genre. Then definitely, you're going to watch it. But I think like you say when a film starts to get all that acclaim you do start to think okay is there a reason behind that like is there a reason why this is doing that. Well um, is it connections is it? Yeah is it ah a voting thing I don't know. Um.
30:58.11
Brian Penn
Yeah.
31:07.89
Brian Penn
And yeah, ah, yeah, yeah, ah well look you there Always always is that possibility because you know members of the Academy members of bafta are elected. They're put there for a reason.
31:15.36
Chris Olson
So be cynical but it could be.
31:25.39
Brian Penn
And there is this kind of relationship between ah the Oscars and the baftass and awards that are voted for by the people by the the public and I I think you would get something totally different if the people were voting for it. That's not to say this isn't a good film. It is but I don't feel. It reaches the the heights and the zenith that that it seems to ah have Klein to but Emma Stone's very good Mark Roffo's very good William Defoe goes without saying he's going to be good. You know it's a good cast It's wellde designed. Um. Emma Stone plays the part world because for much of the film. She is very childlike and as the film progresses and the plot moves on she grows up very quickly without giving too much of the plot away but she grows up and she becomes an adult so I would say it's a challenging. Role to play which he does very well. Ah, you know it does kind of to me I look at that film the way it looks it. It does remind me a bit of Bazzluman the way he would approach a film. Um, but you know it has its merits. But. Don't really see how it it gains that much support and how it's so revered that you know it's all about opinions. You know I saw we have all we have it that could be our bus phrase for the time being. It's all we have is there opinions.
32:49.31
Chris Olson
It is and that's all we have at the end of the day.
32:59.48
Chris Olson
Exactly I don't think it'll catch on unfortunately as too much but too much marketing going on these days. Well hopefully the next film tries a bit harder. Um, so let's see what Brian made of the color purple.
33:00.52
Brian Penn
Yeah, no well I and I we'll have to try a bit harder won't we yeah.
33:14.63
Brian Penn
Ah, right? Okay, but.
33:17.84
Chris Olson
Now listen it listeners will be thinking that little bit by Brian there is that good. Ah, right or a bad all right.
33:22.55
Brian Penn
And oh right? Okay am I Still that mysterious I thought I was quite easy to read Well Okay, let me tell you then right? color purple directed by Blitz Buzzeroole I hope I pronounce that current correctly.
33:36.35
Chris Olson
I I'm going to give you full credit for that that sounds sounds right.
33:40.64
Brian Penn
Well, if she's listening in I I do apologize it. But you know anyway starring fanassia berino tarage p henson coleman domingo now this is an adaptation of the broadway hit musical based on an original book by Alice Walker listeners may also be aware of the 1985 film directed by Steven Spielberg and starring Whoopi Goldberg the story in and in a nutshell should we go for the story in a nutshell we're in Georgia at the turn of the century sisters seeli and netsie are separated by circumstances beyond their control.
34:07.34
Chris Olson
E.
34:16.90
Brian Penn
Seely suffers years of abuse from a cruel husband in a loveless marriage but gradually she finds strength to lead an independent life thoroughly enjoyable film. The songs are great I'd love to see this on stage I find it amazing. It's never been on on the west been on at the west end never been there. Um, but hopefully this film will might give it a a route to the west end. You never know I've got to name check the songwriters Brenda Russell Ailey Willis and Stephen Bray they did a great job The performances are amazing too. Fantasia berino god that girl can see. She's amazing. The only downside for me is that the songs bury the story to a certain extent the original novel goes to some dark places and you lose that in the context of a musical because it is so joyful and happy clappy. You know, um. But if you want more of the story itself this spill the spillberg version is better but hugely entertaining really is gorgeous film in that way, but it dilutes the story. You know the the mute the fact that with a musical the song should carry the narrative and they do that. But because the story is is so broad and challenging. It gets lost when they convert it into a musical but that might be a minor point to some but very good entertainment though.
35:39.84
Chris Olson
Wow I see I misedread you I thought you weren't going like this so that yeah beginning ah right I got completely wrong so listeners if you guessed right? Then you know you know Brian better than I do um absolutely I mean yeah, did.
35:46.27
Brian Penn
I ah yeah ah yeah yeah I'm keeping you on your sidees line Christmas you.
35:59.62
Chris Olson
I'm always ah reticent when it comes to musicals because I do find sometimes I get a bit i' just a bit bored of it or or it's not sinking for me that you the whole breaking into song I It just jolks me Out. It's kind of like theater sometimes when you watch really good theater you okay I was really immersed in that then there's other times where you go. Yeah I was very aware that I was watching people act. Yeah, it, There's that I think you want to be sucked into the musical if if you're going to do that and it sounds like this does that and it's entertaining I think that's another thing with Musicals. They have to be entertaining. Um, but people will let us know um it's in.
36:20.98
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, yeah, and yeah, yeah I think.
36:38.46
Chris Olson
Cinemas and I think you can even get it on Amazon already. It's on the the rental side of things.
36:43.17
Brian Penn
Yeah I think it is I think they they tend to overlap now because logic would tell you that you won't get it won't stream until it finishes at the cinema but they do you know they do overlap so you can you can actually sit. Yeah so you can see it on the small screen but you know the.
36:53.40
Chris Olson
Yeah I think they've got deals in place and the.
37:01.88
Brian Penn
Ah, take on board. What you say about about musicals and I'm I'm always very ambivalent about musicals on film because I don't think they always translate particularly well but you know I think the the Steven Spielberg version of the color purple is that an interesting counterpoint. Because if you want to appreciate? The story is Steven Spielberg every time you know it's that's got to be the best. But if you want pure and sustainment great songs. That's buzz buzzeroola and I was showing off it I know I pronounced the right to me I thought I'd say it again anyway, um, yeah.
37:34.46
Chris Olson
A.
37:40.54
Brian Penn
Very good otherwise though, but you know it's I think I think you look you always lose the story slightly with the musical you know that there you go.
37:49.41
Chris Olson
There we go color purple. Let's know what you think um to the our last cinematic release um not a film about the plymouth football team I'm guessing ah this film is called Argyle ah written by Matthew Vaughan
38:03.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, mean should we care? Well, it's a middle it. It's a fairto middling sort of yeah like bit away then did I give away there. Yeah, okay so yeah Macy V film.
38:07.29
Chris Olson
What's this one Brian and should we care.
38:13.31
Chris Olson
Ah, oh yeah, you could tell your tone there. Definitely yeah, very quickly. Yeah.
38:21.77
Brian Penn
Starring Bryce Dalu Howard Sam Rockwell Henry caval and a host of cameoes I feel this film can be a filler whilst we're waiting for the next bond movie if I'm being honest Ellie Conway is a successful novelist who specializes in espionage tales her latest book features Argyle. Ah, recurring all- actionction spy masterster Andie lives quietly but is constantly berated by her mother Ruth who thinks she should get out more of them as fate takes her hand Ellie finds herself on a train sitting opposite the mysterious odden wild. He urges eie to trust him as always not what it seems. Surrounded by aggressors she is quickly convinced though. Life is in danger they flee with her cat Alfie strapped to her back in a c through glass case it seems so stories are getting too close to the truth and threaten at a sinister ah organization led by agent ritter.
39:17.55
Brian Penn
Great entertainment brash colorful set pieces are well executed. Totally absurd. But that's okay, you know it's tiny. She it sends up the spy genre and Bryce Douglas Howard Sam Rockquil are great in their respective roles. They have an absolute ball playing this part. These parts good cameos as I mentioned but I've got to say something about duo leappa as lagrange. Ah she I feel she struggles in a very limited role that demands too little of ah abilities cease. Um.
39:55.57
Brian Penn
It's not the film. She should have chosen if she wants to break into serious acting on screen. She looks absolutely sensational. She looks gorgeous but she doesn't do a lot of acting struggles to put 1 word in front of the other It's not the part she should have taken and. Almost in a way I'm surprised she took the took the role because it gives the impression that she's there for decorative purposes I mean she does a great dance routine with with Henry Caville who plays our guy at the beginning and it looks great, but it it just feels so disposable the character in this scene. It it doesn't do anything sort of film was so and I think she would have chosen something a bit more challenging but there you go.
40:42.82
Chris Olson
Go? Well yeah, some other actors that pop up richardie grant John Cina it sounds like yeah that sort of film. It's been made with a lot of fun in mind. Yeah, there's all yeah, we're gonna just have a blast. Um, the reviews aren't.
40:51.54
Brian Penn
I Oh yeah, yeah, no, they not no yeah.
40:58.82
Chris Olson
That favorable for it. But I don't think they would be with it with a film like this. Um but be interesting to your people think and let say you know if you're into the bond films and all all that's what stuff? Um, then yeah, the man from Uncle I actually quite like that Henry Caan and um I thought that was all right? um.
41:12.63
Brian Penn
Yeah, well I mean yeah I mean bear in mind that Matthewville directs the kingsman and it shows and I found them hugely entertaining but you know it's a question what people like and don't like if you're not a founder of spy.
41:20.37
Chris Olson
Um.
41:30.75
Brian Penn
Like ahearted spy movies. You won't like this it' all. But if you're a bond fan as I said at the beginning of the the review. Um, it's it's kind of like a filler. You know if you've got that kind of James Bond shaped hole in your life then this could temporarily fill it. You know so. It's not as dynamic as mission impossible shall we say but it's certainly at the bottom end but it it does the job and it's pleasant to watch as ridiculous as it is you know and in the written review I I finished the the review by saying that. You need to have your disbeli suspended for prolonged periods of time because otherwise you you'll get it'll get tiome. But for its type. It's all it's all good.
42:21.56
Chris Olson
Hey guy I just love the idea of them putting on the poster great if you're looking to fill your James Bond shaped hole I just think not that would be great that no, but um.
42:26.40
Brian Penn
You know I know I know you think that's good last way um, wasn't bad. You know? yeah it wasn't bad, but.
42:35.87
Chris Olson
Um, what a but great place to finish our ah reviews of the Cinema movies. Um, so all of those are either at cinemas now um or coming cinemas in the case of Banal Laharma Ah, do let us know if you're on certain platforms. There's comment sections or just on our social media. Just let us know.
42:45.88
Brian Penn
The.
42:52.80
Chris Olson
But you thought of those movies. You's always good to hear what everyone else thinks um, unless in which case you're gonna be nasty. Ah, which you know while about us in particular we we don't want to hear about that like that's fine. Keep keep that to yourself though we want to know that.
42:53.74
Brian Penn
Yeah, like well we yeah know no, that's right? Well yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, we don't really want to know that do we? We don't need to know na.
43:11.40
Chris Olson
Um, we're moving now to a Netflix movie and this came out in February I believe and yeah February the ninth on UKNetflix anyway original title cool in english means ashes and we've both seen this.
43:27.22
Brian Penn
So yes, we have Yes, yeah yeah.
43:31.10
Chris Olson
Brian yes, both bothing this and I I hope be honest I enjoyed it more than the reviews did I think it's been. It's got a very low score on Imd B four point two. Um, but I had more fun with it. But I interested just yeah, just your gender impression Brian are you is it was it good was it bad.
43:36.45
Brian Penn
And I.
43:45.00
Brian Penn
Yeah I Yeah yeah, it was reasonable for me. You know? Yeah I I think it worked reasonable. What I think was a problem with it is that it's a Turkish film isn't it oped into English I don't think dubbing lipsynking turkish.
43:56.71
Chris Olson
E.
44:03.85
Brian Penn
Answer English or English onto Curkish doesn't work quite as Well. If you're dubbing a French film or a German film lipsynching works better generally. But I think with Turkish It doesn't work at all because what you end up doing is that you watch the lips of the characters or I do anyway. To see how well it it syncs up and it doesn't quite do it and I think subtitles might have been better for this film and I see I didn't change it over. Yeah I see I didn't think of that I just watch it.
44:26.86
Chris Olson
Oh did you not change it I changed it to. Ah yeah yeah I changed I had it on on the original language. Yeah I didn't have a problem at all with that and I strongly recommend everyone do that? um.
44:38.57
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I Yeah yeah yeah.
44:38.93
Chris Olson
I'm the same I've seen so many films where I started in English and gone Whoa Whoa Whoa! What's going on and um, yeah, now. Definitely recommend if you're gonna watch Ashes. Do it in the original language and also I think just generally yeah, this is a story.. It's even near set in that. Location I think it's important that people feel that authenticity coming through.
45:00.88
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, that's right I agree with that it was an oversight on my part because I just started watching I know and it didn't occur to me to switch back but I like the story I like the story. The the idea that ah I think it's is it goka or goaxa ah happily married woman. To Mariton Eison who runs a publishbbtion company. She has her own clothing business and edits new books and then she becomes enthralled by new manuscripts and is drawn into the plot where reality and illusion become blurred I like that I don't think that's an interesting take I've not seen a storyline like that before.
45:36.20
Chris Olson
Yeah, it's got this kind of like a fascination with books isn't it because obviously they're a publisher then they've got this book that seems to be not coming alive I think that's kind of being a bit silly but she's reading into the story and then she sort of immerses herself into the story by chasing after the characters and.
45:37.10
Brian Penn
About you and look. Yeah, yeah yeah.
45:53.31
Brian Penn
But yeah, that's right I yeah um and yeah I like the idea you know originality so took what's Com buying films in in in any any sort of genre of right? There are you know.
45:55.48
Chris Olson
It starts to take on kind of like a sinister sort of feel. Um, yeah, it's very interesting premise.
46:09.95
Brian Penn
Are only so many possibilities you know you think there are hundreds of thousands of plots you could come up with but they're all derived from 7 or 8 classic plots aren't they but this is different. It's unusual and when she meets with this the carton sir Keenan then the story. Gets to the the heart of the matter more visuals are great I think it again like bennoharma beautifully shot the colors light and shade again, it's all going on there I I pickeds up on the facts. It didn't get good reviews. Um. I think he's pretty decent I think he's pretty good you know um once you've got the you've got it worked out whether you want subtitles or the dubbed english version. Go for the subtitles as you points out. It's a lot better stick with that and I think it's it's ah, an enjoyable movie.
47:04.37
Chris Olson
Yeah, the the chemistry between those 2 central characters. Obviously yeah with their voices as well. That is so powerful he now was one of the best parts of the film was those 2 for me and and I think the film much like a few films that we've talked like benal and aharmack it brings in.
47:05.42
Brian Penn
It works.
47:12.51
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
47:23.93
Brian Penn
Yeah.
47:24.15
Chris Olson
Multiple genres but without jarring you because there's this like powerful romance story. But then there's kind of a bit more like of a sinister thriller aspect going on and I always know a film is is is good if like.
47:34.94
Brian Penn
Yeah.
47:42.10
Chris Olson
My wife walks in and kind of goes. Oh what's this like she sort of she got caught up in it almost instantly she was like oh yeah, um I said but she's not a big fan of subtitles my wife so she was she didn't sit through it. But um I think you know it's that sort of film is's going to sit on UKNetflix and a lot of people won't.
47:42.94
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:57.66
Brian Penn
I No the yeah the yeah.
47:58.81
Chris Olson
Watch. Yeah, if you're not a fan of subtitles then you probably already have skipped past this review but I think it's it deserves a bit of recognition just for being an interesting story. Well-made like you say beautiful locations. The shooting is is amazing. Um, especially when they get onto like the rooftop and things that would like that section.
48:14.94
Brian Penn
You? Yeah yeah I think.
48:17.77
Chris Olson
Um, it's worth your time and one of those films as well that it didn't get all of the promo that a lot of other films get so hopefully we can do a service here just to shout out. So yeah, Pronounce Cool which is K you with yo La L If you're looking up or ashes. Um, so.
48:23.29
Brian Penn
I My yeah less less I'm so yeah, yeah. And.
48:37.20
Chris Olson
Yeah, let's know if you watch it and what you think it's on Netflix u k at the moment and all the best to those filmmakers because I thought it was great. Four point two I do I think that's outrageous I really do I don't think it's four point two yeah um.
48:44.93
Brian Penn
So yeah, yeah, good job did a good job that's unfair I think that's unfair.
48:56.93
Chris Olson
Okay, we're now moving to the indie section of our show which is where we review a selection of films that have been physically sent to us. They've said please review our film and we are very honored to do so um because often these films get reviewed on the website but we don't necessarily get time to chat about them. But.
49:05.42
Brian Penn
And.
49:14.20
Brian Penn
So.
49:16.46
Chris Olson
Here we can make some time um and great selection in this show. We've got four films to review the first of which is a feature length ah called suit hung.
49:27.67
Brian Penn
And yeah, that's good I Know it's deliberate. It's deliberate isn't it on purpose. So.
49:28.73
Chris Olson
Tied tongue now I had to read that slowly because so many times I've said it the wrong way around or said that right and I think it's meant to right I feel like that's a tongue twister. Yeah yeah, ah, um, which is a feature length drama directed by saudatchi and based in Ireland um, and it. Takes on this kind of documentary style to tell a story about 2 brothers who people are talking about them and some horrific events that have transpired involving them whereby I don't think it's a spoiler if I say what happens because it does get mentioned very early in the film.
50:02.44
Brian Penn
No yeah, yeah, it ah was it? Yeah yeah, yeah.
50:05.64
Chris Olson
Yeah, but a political figure gets assassinated by these 2 brothers and they are and and a police officer and they're talking about them. Um, yeah, there's like their family members or close relatives or friends and it's it's got this like say documentary style and we then are.
50:20.30
Brian Penn
There.
50:24.64
Chris Olson
Going from say like their childhood. They're talking about they would sort of normal boys go into like guitar and things like that. Um, but then how they drifted towards this sort of radicalized position that they were in and started doing videos and really talking about. So it's this.
50:37.75
Brian Penn
Me.
50:42.22
Chris Olson
Um, minister for change I think that's who he was reformative and we see press shots of him talking about his role and what he's going to do for Ireland and how this kind of stirs up trouble with the boys because they or the brothers they are.
50:42.78
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, minister for reform and change I think yeah.
50:58.98
Chris Olson
Under the belief that he is corrupt and ruining Island and yeah, the film kind of starts to get momentum and escalate towards a really strong almost visceral um conclusion which.
51:00.26
Brian Penn
New.
51:06.99
Brian Penn
Me no.
51:14.54
Chris Olson
We already know what transpires. But I think it's still really powerful in the way that it unfolds. What do you think of soup hung ti tongue Brian.
51:16.21
Brian Penn
Yeah. Well let's let's not discuss the title anymore because like you did really well pronouncing that problem. Yeah I know I know I couldn't even even attempt to I was absolutely fascinated by this film this This is so clever what they've done because it's told in documentary style and.
51:27.97
Chris Olson
Ah, yeah, say it 5 times now.
51:39.99
Brian Penn
I was watching it first 15 20 minutes I was bearing in mind that I didn't read too much about the film prize watching it so I went in and watched it cold first twenty minutes I thought to myself god I didn't know about this I was convinced. It was real right? I was convinced that they were talking about something that happened.
51:53.68
Chris Olson
Yeah, yeah, me too.
51:59.65
Brian Penn
20 minutes in I thought after Google this why don' I know about this if this happened in Ireland why why didn't I hear about it. You know and but now I won't Google it. But then I think half an hour in it kind of dawns on you that it that it's purely fiction is dramatized but that gives you an idea of how. Effective the film is because it makes you buy into the characters as being real right? and it's only when the I think it's only when they were interviewing the police inspector that I can't onto it and then as you say it turned very sinister and very ugly then and the 2 the 2 brothers the helping brothers. It became more obvious what they were about who they were how their um, their attitude and anxiety grew from early in life to make them what they are now and make them do what they did. But I think what was also very interesting about the storyline was that.
52:57.29
Brian Penn
What they did polarize the nation didn't it that they either were either villains or they were heroes to some people because they were challenging the status quo the nor the norms what people accepts as being normal and civilized very clever filmmaking. Got to say. Very impressed and I I was taken in for first twenty minutes half an hour I was absolutely convinced. It was real.
53:23.32
Chris Olson
And I'm I'm always dubious when the so Pseudo documentmentary styles use I've always like okay, right because it gives you a lot of ability to explain. Yeah, it' explain the story and give give away the yeah so exposition right? But the way this is.
53:28.55
Brian Penn
In.
53:35.17
Brian Penn
I Mean yeah.
53:42.46
Chris Olson
Done is really clever because it's really mysterious like they're giving you feel bits about what happened but you don't know the picture yet and it kind of Unfolds really brilliantly and what I liked as well was when the brothers start doing the videos. They have this countdown as to when they're going to attack. They say they state when they're going to attack.
53:47.50
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:56.93
Brian Penn
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:01.83
Chris Olson
This Politician and they're even surprised at how much momentum grows from these videos that they get like lots and lots of views and it starts to almost swirl out of control because maybe they weren't really that serious or maybe they weren't yeah it certainly wasn't going to go the way it did um and.
54:06.90
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:14.66
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.
54:21.45
Chris Olson
That I found the most compelling aspect was it was It was genuinely thrilling genuinely thrilling I was ah I don't know where even though you know where it's going. You don't know where it's going. You kind of feel that you must. You must keep watching and I love the bit because the.
54:29.87
Brian Penn
Yeah, and I.
54:37.79
Chris Olson
Title refers to a poem I think or at least it's a bit of a poem and that's that's read over the film at one point. Um, and I thought that was brilliantly done. Lots of great shots. There's this really good adol drone. Oh I'm I'm assuming it's a drone shot over the landscape. At one point I Thought that was really well done.
54:40.91
Brian Penn
Ah, right? okay.
54:57.48
Chris Olson
Um, because a lot of the footage is this sort of like it talking head sort of um approach but there are bits in it that are really cinematic. Um, yeah I I thought it was great. Really enjoyed it and sometimes when you when we sit down to watch indie feature films. There is that element of like okay we no idea what we're in for um, this.
55:01.94
Brian Penn
Um, yeah, Amy yeah i.
55:17.26
Chris Olson
Really stood the test I thought this was great and would thoroughly recommend it.
55:19.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, so would I So am I actually and I'd like to see it on a big screen as well. You know? Yeah yeah I think you would.
55:26.41
Chris Olson
I think yeah, it would work on a big screen. Um in terms of seeing it so suit hung tied tongue. We were given a a password protective ah screener which would suggests that it's yeah, still doing the rounds i'm. Want to find out more about the film. The the company behind it is called standard practice. They have a website standard practicetic dot I e and they're also available on all the social media is the film itself has a Facebook page. So I think that's probably the best place to go for information about release and things. Um, so you've go to facebook.com/.
55:54.91
Brian Penn
You.
56:01.22
Chris Olson
Suit hung 1 word dot tied tongue 1 word. Um or Google it. Or yeah, if you're that desperate do email us someone will direct you to it. But um, yeah, you should be able to find it and yeah ah dar recommend that you do because it's one of those films that deserves.
56:03.39
Brian Penn
We ahead comment. Yeah, well.
56:18.63
Brian Penn
Me.
56:20.27
Chris Olson
The eyes that I think there's a lot of lot of effort going to make this movie and for it to be as powerful and as evocative as it is it really deserves. Yeah, good viewership. So.
56:32.11
Brian Penn
It's very impressive. It really is.
56:35.90
Chris Olson
I Okay so that was suit tongue tied tongue I've done very well pronounced in that can I just say I've kept I don't think I got it wrong once we're moving now to a film that I can pronounce very well ah settling down feature length.
56:38.34
Brian Penn
Yeah.
56:50.49
Chris Olson
Comedy film. Well dark comedy I think ah from writer director Tom Risuto ah Brian want to give the synopsis on settling down.
56:51.75
Brian Penn
Here.
56:57.90
Brian Penn
Yeah I'll give it a go. So We we have We have a couple faith and Mike who have shall we say a dysfunctional relationship. It has Peaks and Troughs like all relationships. Do. She wants to move house and he doesn't. However, P is unperturbed and contacts whom are a local estate agent who has ways and means of removing troublesome tenants and other difficult clients and they are gradually sucked into a sinister train of events I might say more than that Because. There is so much going on in in this piece that to tell to reveal more would I feel in some ways almost spoil it but it it's surreal in places but ah I was gonna say gripping gripping something the right word but it's it's Compulsive. It makes you watch. And there are rather scenes that honestly don't make any sense. Yeah, when when they're in the restaurant and the woman's eating spaghetti off it off the man's bare Chest. Ah I Still don't I Ah still don't get that I'm sorry I don't get it at all. But you know what it it Works. It's interesting. They got um.
57:58.60
Chris Olson
Yeah, that code to my head. Yeah as I Oh it.
58:11.14
Brian Penn
Packed it with interesting characters that do work and they can all act as Well. I mean what we mentioned on the last podcast that well I did anyway that often with with small indie Features. You do often get as who have very very basic acting skills. But. Here They've got. They've got a cast they can all do it. They can all acts. They're all very proficient answers and that makes a big difference really? but yeah I liked it. It's got something about it. But I'm not sure what but it. It's got lots of good things going on there. Yeah.
58:46.66
Chris Olson
Yeah, it was definitely um, a mixture of genres again like we saw said about a few films but this was kind of more in the ballpark of like a surrealist comedy you with a bit of a dark edge I thought and it was yeah there were scenes that were.
58:50.28
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
58:57.66
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
59:02.75
Chris Olson
Very strange but it kind of it made sense tonally when you're watching it. You kind of go this makes sense in the film that I'm watching and it what they say The compulsive is a great word to use for this I thought it was compulsive to I found that I wanted to know what was going on I wanted to know how it was gonna yeah.
59:09.40
Brian Penn
Yeah.
59:17.35
Brian Penn
Yeah.
59:21.54
Chris Olson
Conclude Yeah, with the the wife kind of unwittingly enlisting the services of these I mean maniacs. Really yeah, what they do the the actual the person who goes in ah try again trying to spoil person who ah does the nasty business.
59:27.28
Brian Penn
Attack.
59:37.83
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
59:39.69
Chris Olson
He is particularly disturbing like when he's talking I was like you are really like odd and strange and and you can't take your eyes off him. Um, and then there's like the 2 cops who are kind of investigating but quite badly. Um who I think the director is one of those.
59:42.30
Brian Penn
Yeah, hello Yeah, that's right, it has some impacts on you when you watch Thunder out about it.
59:53.91
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
59:59.12
Chris Olson
Actors I think I might be wrong. Um, that had a kind of comedic element. You know it puts in lots of moments that are so funny in the film I found it scrappy at times I thought it was scrappy that you can tell it's not a big budget film and I think that element of.
01:00:09.56
Brian Penn
You.
01:00:18.20
Chris Olson
Everyone was really passionate to make this film. There's a lot of people there putting in a lot of effort that their the result is scrappy. It is a bit like okay yeah, like you've really got to be into this just to stick with it I don't It's not a mainstream film by any means. Um, but.
01:00:18.67
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:00:26.74
Brian Penn
The.
01:00:32.00
Brian Penn
And 9 it.
01:00:36.27
Chris Olson
There's something there. Well I mean we've reviewed some surrealist comedies and things on this show a few times and this is definitely better than some. We've see ah but I can also see that there will be people out there that don't get on with it that don't get on with this style. Um.
01:00:38.12
Brian Penn
So there. I Will not.
01:00:52.95
Chris Olson
But I think that's true of it, especially comedy I think that's true of any comedy film and.
01:00:52.96
Brian Penn
It and and I think you have to accept that an independently made film will have certain characteristics about it and it will be rough and Ready. It will be ragged but you could argue that's part of its charm that it's raw right. And that's what gives it a distinctive edge so you accept that you accept that it has its imperfections and its flaws and that you know if you're a fan of slick big-budget movies a lot of indie features won't necessarily work for you. Because they can't afford the same production values but you accept it what it is and within its Genre. It works well and this film does but I take on Board. The fact that it is it. It is rough around the edges. But I mean that's more about budgetary limitations than anything else isn't it.
01:01:43.43
Chris Olson
Yeah, hundred percent hundred percent and I also thought they did well to capture the there. There's a lot of comedy and bizarre things going on but there's also a theme running through about yeah being. Ah, dissatisfied with midlife. You know there's this yeah, she looks at her partner who's wearing the the mask to stop him snoring and it's kind of like that that there's that there's that undercurrent of dissatisfaction with midlife I thought that there will be things there for viewers to connect with and that there's things there for you to enjoy and.
01:01:59.17
Brian Penn
The the. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:02:18.77
Chris Olson
If you can stick with it I think it's It's a decent film by the time you you get into that latter section and it does start to sort of vamp up in terms of what's going on. Um, but yeah, hats off to to the filmmakers and everyone involved with selling down. Um the film itself I don't.
01:02:19.88
Brian Penn
Of course.
01:02:31.51
Brian Penn
And.
01:02:36.30
Chris Olson
Ah, yes, we had it. We have a Youtube link let me check. Um, it might be unlisted. Ah yes, unlisted and there is a web website settling down film.com but I've just been on it and there is any information about screeners currently that may change by the time this comes out. Um, but yeah, you can.
01:02:36.65
Brian Penn
There.
01:02:55.66
Chris Olson
Ah, stay tuned on their website um or have a look. Yeah, they've got I am db page as well. Sometimes that gets updated with screenings and platforms that it might be available on but the film is called settling down 2023 because I think there are other films called that if you struggle to find it? Um, yeah.
01:03:01.19
Brian Penn
And.
01:03:10.57
Brian Penn
I Ah yeah I Ah I know I know and know they go limitations to the English language isn't really.
01:03:14.55
Chris Olson
Yeah that's the that's the situation we're in nowbra. There's so many films they've even got the same names that it's just you know where will it end there. Yeah so settling down we're moving on now to a short film written and directed by filmmaker Charlie Norton called the lost weekend now. This um could be a triggering film for for some people this there's a few bits in there that are sort of slightly upsetting but it largely reveals that deals with toxic masculinity I think that would be the the strongest thing that came up for me. Um, it is ah about.
01:03:39.57
Brian Penn
I Mean. So yeah, yeah.
01:03:52.77
Chris Olson
3 guys the central character being James played by Brendan Egan who are having a summer blowout I guess um, a nice place in cape cod and in typical, almost kind of american pie esque fashion they're chatting about.
01:03:59.72
Brian Penn
And.
01:04:11.68
Chris Olson
Conquests and sex and all the things that you guys apparently do decided it not wasn't my expert. Ah, but anyway, um, that was ah yeah, and then we've got so James is within this group but he has had quite a conservative upbringing who so in catholic school.
01:04:13.99
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah yeah.
01:04:27.76
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:04:30.39
Chris Olson
And hasn't had any experience with women yet still a virgin and struggles to deal with the sort of masculine views being put on him as well as being kind of goaded especially by the character of nick played by Henry Lynch who is quite a toxic force. Um and the film starts.
01:04:38.52
Brian Penn
In yeah.
01:04:50.40
Chris Olson
With James refusing to not want to jump off a bridge and I thought that was brilliant because I don't know about you Ryan but when I was younger my mom always said to me when I got in with the wrong crowd. What if they jumped off a bridge was you I think that was.
01:04:53.20
Brian Penn
And yeah, yeah.
01:05:01.14
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah, and I Yeah yeah and and know it does remind you a little bit of what your mom or dad might sell you in it. Don't don't do what the others do don't do what the what the big boys do I I like this I really enjoyed it.
01:05:04.98
Chris Olson
Every boy's childhood. They had that said and I thought that was a great way to open this film.
01:05:19.78
Brian Penn
I think it was well captured wellobserved I like the dynamics between the 3 guys because James as you say had the very causted sheltered upbringing who's been brought along by his friend Dylan and you've got that friction between James and and Nick Nick who's a lot more much brasher. More forward James is very nervous uncertain of himself and he's basically the plus one isn't he James on that this particular trip and so I like that dynamic the one that develops. Um, when the girls are introduced into the storyline Caroline.
01:05:45.50
Chris Olson
It? yeah.
01:05:56.69
Brian Penn
Then everything changes and it's interesting to see the way James's personality evolves and develops over that weekend and the way again it is a study of masculinity isn't it about a guy proving himself ah to his peers. That's that's what comes through really. Really strongest for me. But yeah I like to I think it was nicely played wellacted well observed. It's good. You know I think for a ah, a small independent feature. it's it's got it's got a touch a gloss that you might not necessarily get. With yeah yeah, yeah.
01:06:34.40
Chris Olson
Yeah, definitely felt a high end production value. Um, which I think goes in its favor and 1 thing I felt was they did really well capturing this sort of essence of coming of age and what I loved about it was this idea of it being.
01:06:47.24
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:06:51.91
Chris Olson
Yeah, a throwa away type of weekend. You know they're going to sort of drink beers by the beach but actually these are the type of events in someone's life that can actually be really defining. Yeah that his reaction to characters put in front of him like Caroline and yeah, the sort of bullish nick it's.
01:06:52.47
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:01.80
Brian Penn
I Yeah you yeah there. Yeah absolutely won't and.
01:07:11.98
Chris Olson
These are that what actually become really important to someone even though they might not seem so at the time and I love that but I did feel that James's struggle to find these identity could have been fleshed out more I don't I think there was more to this. Um.
01:07:27.68
Brian Penn
And there.
01:07:31.30
Chris Olson
There's quite a rapid movement from where he is at the beginning of the film to where he is at the end of the film. It's not big enough within there I think you know it's this kind of they have this party and everything kind of kicks off but I felt that.
01:07:38.53
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I felt that as well. It it felt abbreviation in places because they you know.
01:07:45.80
Chris Olson
It needed more? Um, yeah, yeah, that that was just my personal feeling on this.
01:07:57.11
Brian Penn
You know they can't give it all the time they want. They've got a limited amount of screen sign. They know that and you just feel that the story loses something as a result of the time constraints which is unfortunate but there's something in there and that's the sign of a good strong narrative that. Probably needs more than they could give more time than they could give it. But yeah, you do sense There's more there you you peel back the like the layers of a character and the scenarios they're fleshing out you think want to see more about that. Want to see more but didn't quite get to it? Yeah yeah.
01:08:28.46
Chris Olson
Yeah, and I think that's a is a good thing right? It's like you want more of this film and it does Well you explores youth friendship relationships really well that touches on like religion and yeah, yeah, lots of things that are big but I thought that yeah.
01:08:34.67
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah I.
01:08:45.41
Chris Olson
Definitely would have been happy to watch more. That's another thing Sometimes you're watching a show you kind of go. Ah, that's a shame that's finished yeah was I was just getting into that.
01:08:45.73
Brian Penn
It? Yeah yeah I know what it? Yeah,, That's right, You think it's just developing. It's just getting going and then it then it stops but no one likes it. Yeah, it's good I likes it and. You know what you mentioned earlier on ah about pivotal moments in someone's life that almost sets the tone for the way their life carries on That's what that's dealing with here is that those key experiences moments in their life when they're on the Casp. Of adulthood when they're not not quite a man not quite a boy. You know it's It's that kind of the inbetweeners isn't it if I can quote um the Channel 4 Tv show in between is where they're on the cusp of of Manhood. So it deals with a complex area of.. Anyone's life really well and as you say covers a lot of lot of things in the time they have available.
01:09:43.38
Chris Olson
So so that was a short film called the lost weekend. We were again given a password protected screener but you can find out more about about the film on Instagram at the lost weekend film or 1 word or at their website flying cardproductions.com ah, yeah, definitely recommend seeking out often with these short films. They end up on platforms like Youtube and Vimeo and easy places to watch them and I strongly recommend seeking that one up really really good. Okay, onto our final indie film.
01:10:03.77
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:10:09.34
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So.
01:10:20.74
Chris Olson
And this is a feature length. It's film called tiger not pronounced. Ah sorry, not spelt like the animal spelt t y g e r now before we get into the film I just want to ask Brian do you know what reference that had within the film I couldn't spot it. But.
01:10:35.53
Brian Penn
I No no no I thought you might know I thought you'd know these interest. No I didn't I couldn't see I thought it might have been something to do with um the the cudly toyer that belongs to.
01:10:38.60
Chris Olson
I was hoping maybe you would? yeah no ah ah.
01:10:53.90
Brian Penn
Joe Sta I thought it was that I thought I yeah yeah I i' been that? Yeah yeah, that was a conversation between us wasn't it really.
01:10:55.52
Chris Olson
Oh yeah, ah not sure, but because also the spot The spelling was different right? but it probably does probably apologies if we've missed this? Ah, but yeah, but sorry that was on aside but just you back to the film So tiger.
01:11:11.10
Brian Penn
Yeah, so.
01:11:11.20
Chris Olson
Ah, directed by Alexander Milo Bischoff and co-directed with sorry co-written with Dylan Edwards the film stars. Ah Ben Aldridge sebastian hold on I'm on the right right film.
01:11:25.26
Brian Penn
That's right? Yeah, yeah, it's definite edwards place Joe yeah, but Sebastian Sebastianir was his Sebastian's in it.
01:11:26.64
Chris Olson
Didn and Edward sorry I was reading the wrong character. Let me damage it. It let me just let me just do that again hold on let me just pause this. So ah, directed by Alexander Milo Bisoff and co-written with Dylan Edwards the film is about a character called Joe who's just been released from prison he's in he's an ex soldier and very much going through. Ah ah, still going through a terrible time in his life.
01:11:49.67
Brian Penn
And.
01:11:59.18
Chris Olson
Um, he gets shown to this sort of depressing apartment where he can start to rebuild his life. Um, he tries to sort of keep to himself a lot but his plan we discover is to make enough money to get back to Scotland to be. With his his daughter who he often narrates letters to through the film. Um, he falls in with a well it was the leader of a group like ah, an alcoholics anonymous type group. Um, he falls in Neil.
01:12:24.11
Brian Penn
Um.
01:12:36.80
Brian Penn
New. Yeah, so.
01:12:37.57
Chris Olson
Ah, played by Shaun Sean Dooley ah was he falls in with him and they the 2 kind of become friends and then Neil offers him a job and things start to look like they're kind of picking up for Joe unfortunately something happens in his apartment that caused him to have to go on the run and.
01:12:51.20
Brian Penn
New.
01:12:54.73
Chris Olson
The rest of the film is seeing him basically try and make his way back to Scotland encountering a few people on the way such as ex soldier that he was he served with there's some other people on the way that he meets um on his bicycle. He's on his bike for for most of the film now. Um.
01:13:08.21
Brian Penn
I As you do? Yeah I No absolutely not no I I Yeah I I loved it. Absolutely love this. It's grim.
01:13:13.49
Chris Olson
It's not a light film by any means this is a dark drama but it is an absolutely brilliant one I thought this was incredible. What did you think of Tiger Brown
01:13:27.53
Brian Penn
2 words I wrote down when I was watching this film grim and riveing. It's absolutely compelling. You can't take your eyes off it for a second brilliantly acted brilliantly written I think Dylan Edwards is excellent as Joe. Sean Dooley who will be be familiar to listeners. It appears in film and Tv frequently. Very busy actor but a great supporting actor and it made me think out how important supporting actors are to any film that they do make the film. Tick over and ah the the exchanges between Joe and Neil because niil's a reformed addict isn't he who it was kind of like a counselor to Joe I thought he was excellent I thought the script was brilliant what you know what? I loved about the scripts here was that. It's quite sparse. They didn't feel the need to fill the script with lots of words they didn't fill the need to fill to fill the film with lots of dialogue and we mentioned about silence being worked into a script. They do that very well here particularly where Neil and Joe.
01:14:34.94
Chris Olson
Um.
01:14:42.74
Brian Penn
In the car together and Joe sister ne what made you stop and ten fifteen seconds passed by before he reveals the reason why he stops do you know the part of the film I'm talking about.
01:14:54.67
Chris Olson
Yeah, yeah, that scene was absolutely heartbreaking. It was I yeah yeah I I think that I hundred percent agree with you about the power of a supporting actor.
01:14:58.91
Brian Penn
But wasn't that intense wasn't that in sense though you know.
01:15:07.92
Brian Penn
Yeah, so. Yeah.
01:15:12.90
Chris Olson
And I think doley does that amazing in this film because alone Dan Edwards says great. You know he? there's a lot of scenes actually where he is alone. But I think without that foundation of him and Neil in that that beginning part of the film. The rest of it would have.
01:15:19.25
Brian Penn
And. And.
01:15:31.70
Chris Olson
Not felt anywhere near as as breathtaking as it was because you get that emotion and it's not just the story. It's just the way that Sean Doley does that scene he does it incredibly I was mesmerized and I was absolutely heartbroken I don't want to say what the story is.
01:15:32.87
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
01:15:43.34
Brian Penn
Yeah, no, no yeah I know it was it was and I felt I found it I was really surprised by it.
01:15:51.19
Chris Olson
But as a parent listening to that story. My God that was hard to listen to. Um, amazing, amazing section. Yeah I love that bit. It's amazing.
01:16:03.27
Brian Penn
This film delivered a number of emotional punchlines that I wasn't expecting and that was one of them really? Ah, yeah, it's It's kind of that type of film. You think well I feel quite drained through watching that. But I'm glad I did watch it. You know it's that type of.
01:16:18.30
Chris Olson
Um, yeah.
01:16:21.83
Brian Penn
You know when he comes out of prison this is where I think it's so well observed because he's ah, an army Veteran Afghan Veteran Reform reforming drug addicts. You know he's put up with a lot in his Life. He comes out of prison and he he enters something resembling a prison where he's in this tower block. Even though he's free. He's not.. He's kind of imprisoned in in another way isn't they living with unsavory types. You know it's almost like he's living a similar life to what he lived inside. So I think that's quite acute the way they've observed the experience of an ex-con and someone coming out of Prison. Without any immediate prospects of of work. But yeah.
01:17:01.70
Chris Olson
Yeah, it's more like his psychological state right? because he when you when he comes out and even like throughout the film you're watching him you're like this is a guy that's never left prison like he's not left really right? emotionally and and psychologically and he is.
01:17:13.00
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.
01:17:20.99
Chris Olson
Ah driven. Yeah by this destination. Um, we I won go into it but he's driven to do this journey and you know he's absolutely sat on it so much. So but that's that you can't help but watch it feeling so sad for him that.
01:17:26.73
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:17:40.50
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:17:40.44
Chris Olson
He's not finding peace. He's not finding. Yeah what he should have found with his freedom and yeah is ah one of those films that you say it isn't up be is that he's very grim and you watch it is so grim but but done in a way that is so.
01:17:51.83
Brian Penn
And oh there'
01:17:57.92
Chris Olson
Enjoyable. It's not the right word but it is enjoyable. You watch it. You want to watch it. You want to see more of it. You want to feel those tears running down in your face when you're watching it when he has these moments and when he has that I think it it touches on lots of different themes as well like about War Pcsd addiction.
01:18:04.80
Brian Penn
The.
01:18:13.64
Brian Penn
So yeah, that's all nice things. Yeah.
01:18:16.57
Chris Olson
Um, all these things that so come up ah naturally through history and it's but also it doesn't just do that. There's there's visuals that are amazing that he's by the sea. Um at the beginning is it margate I think he comes into I read in Jason's re review he said Margate. Yeah.
01:18:25.87
Brian Penn
Its yeah, it's yeah, it's it's Ken isn't it. It's the kent coves isn't it.
01:18:34.96
Chris Olson
Ah, so you know it's It's also got those elements to it to make it really powerful. It's beautifully filmed. It looks the part and I I Just sometimes you finish a film where you just kind of take a little a few moments to just kind of just breathe it in and this was one of them. Um, yeah I thought this was.
01:18:39.56
Brian Penn
And.
01:18:47.93
Brian Penn
Yeah, doing yeah. Yeah I know yeah it it? Yeah no doubt about it like you know you you fight you reach for so many superllaatives about a film like this and you none of it seems quite good enough that.
01:18:55.22
Chris Olson
Phenomenal, Absolutely phenomenal. Um Tiger Yeah, strongly recommend it strong to regret.
01:19:11.48
Chris Olson
Yeah, yeah, you got to struggle to it. It was more how you felt if you could have been there. Yeah when you when you felt it. Um, it's about T Y G E R Um and this film is available to watch and.
01:19:13.54
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah, that's why it makes you feel. Yeah.
01:19:27.26
Chris Olson
Ah, do you know what? I don't often say this but stop listening to this podcast and go watch it. Um I think it deserves it. it's it's available um on a few streaming platforms. The filmmaker did actually should be I think the producer Olga had messaged me or or 1 of the from people from the film.
01:19:31.26
Brian Penn
Ah, yeah.
01:19:44.46
Chris Olson
Twelfth of February it was released prime video Itunes and Google so you have no reason not to go watch this I I think it's a rental and if you're going to watch it in those places. But yeah, 100% recommend it because this is that type of film that like some of the films we reviewed at beginning of the.
01:19:48.47
Brian Penn
Man watch. Yeah.
01:19:59.21
Brian Penn
Definitely.
01:20:04.21
Chris Olson
Show it won't get the views that it serves I could say that yeah because even if 1 person on the planet doesn't watch it then it didn't get the views it deserved. So I really really loved it. Um, tiger got here now.
01:20:07.38
Brian Penn
Um, it's the worst thing isn't it. Yeah yeah, oh exactly? Yeah well.
01:20:21.54
Chris Olson
What are you doing? Why are you still listening come on I probably because we've got one more film to review haven't we yeah, that's probably why you're still here listening honest people do tune in for the nostalgics lot. Um, so if this is your first time to Uk Film Club um we review a film from the past.
01:20:21.76
Brian Penn
I Love you? Yeah, it's the nostalgia slot isn't it. Yeah, they want to hear that person.
01:20:40.39
Chris Olson
That we like to revisit or maybe it's our first time seeing it. But it's just something that a lot of people talk about and recently we've been tying these into new releases as well. Where possible so we did June last episode because part 2 was coming out and this month if you didn't get it from my Jingle at the beginning of the episode. Um, is the 1984 ghost bustards film now I believe our friends at the phantom zone also were covering this in an episode. So Chris Ian and the gang please don't shoot us for also covering it. Um, it's a film that deserves lots and lots of people chatting right? to be honest.
01:21:02.54
Brian Penn
In. Yeah, oh okay.
01:21:13.66
Brian Penn
There? Yeah yeah.
01:21:19.57
Chris Olson
Um, and this is tied into the the release of the new ghostbusters film in March ah, if you're up for that. But um ghostbusters Brian now I'm always intrigued to know. Where you stand with nostalgia films in terms of because sometimes I say oh you how many times do you sin this and you say oh I saw it when it came out and that was it is that true for ghostbusters.
01:21:35.74
Brian Penn
It Yeah not quite I saw I saw it when it when it first came out once the Cinelin saw it I can't believe it's false years old It nice and nighty four that is absolutely terrifying but I've seen it a few times since then but I've not.
01:21:49.70
Chris Olson
Since is.
01:21:54.80
Brian Penn
This was the first time I'd seen it in maybe eight or nine years so um it's it kind of feels relatively new but it's of course it's ah it's a film I know so well and and it's it's a film that I I love more more now than ever. It's It's great. It's such a simple storyline to start with um you know you've got these 3 parapsychologists who suddenly lose lose their university funding and they set up shots as a ghost removal service as you do as one does um and. Just tells the story of how they attract frightened sometimes skeptical customers and the 2 things stand out about this film haven't watched it now after forty years forty years after I first saw it 2 things stand out one is. It's how well the special effects ah have held up. You know if you think of how the way of how film technology' evolved over the last forty years the special effects in this film are still good. They're still decent and secondly I've been reminded how funny it is.
01:23:03.69
Chris Olson
Yeah.
01:23:05.43
Brian Penn
And of course if you've got good lines in a film and you've got Bill Murray who are you going to give the lines to you're Goingnna give the lines to Bill Murray aren't you. There are so many good lines in it. No job is too big. No fear is too big. Um, let's split up and we can cause more damage that way you know. These are just great lines. They still sound fresh to me. Ah the um, the other I suppose the other thing that strikes me about ghostbusters is the the strength of branding in the film. You've got that great logo that appeared on every t-shirt and kitchen magnet. You can you can imagine it was everywhere. Ah, had the title song sung by Ray Parker Jr that was every year when it came out so they had really really got strong branding to for the film and it's a it's a franchise that I welcome with open arms because the characters are so strong. Ah, loved afterlife I'm looking forward to seeing the latest instalment but it's such a great film. Great memories and it still wears. Well after all these years correct.
01:24:10.52
Chris Olson
Yeah I echo what you say I Definitely think it's a film that doesn't I mean yeah, it looks dated but it doesn't look dated. It's still effective for what it's doing especially dealing with the yeah the is called the paranormal is that is that the right phrase paranol that you've got that.
01:24:18.24
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
01:24:29.25
Chris Olson
Quirkiness to it but some of it is still genuinely scary I not scary I wasn't like behind the sofa but there's a bit where they're in the library and all the cards fly out and I was like it's a practical fact. Yeah, that's not been done with computers and it's brilliant. It works amazing. Um.
01:24:31.82
Brian Penn
And yeah, no I Well no, but mean I Yeah yeah, no know that's that's one Yeah, that's what what I felt was that the special effects are still good. They hold up.
01:24:47.35
Chris Olson
No.
01:24:51.80
Brian Penn
They still provoke a reaction. You don't feel you don't laugh it and say oh look at that look how ridiculous that is. You know it's not. It's very well done. You know? Yeah yeah.
01:24:58.93
Chris Olson
Yeah, yeah, it is it definite. It doesn't do that does it. It keeps its quality about it that you're still watching it enjoying it for what it was meant to be enjoyed for whereas when we watched June last month.
01:25:07.77
Brian Penn
I Yeah yeah I and I Yeah, yeah yeah.
01:25:13.60
Chris Olson
Remember watching that feeling. Oh my god this feels like a relic and not an enjoyable one. It felt like an absolute slog game through that film whereas ghost restets I enjoyed every minute I finished it and I was like I'm gonna watch the second one. Yeah and I'm definitely. That's just how these films feel and there's a reason that they keep coming back. These sort of films because they know that they've been done so well that the audience is so invested they're hoping that they're going to keep the the heights of these originals I I'm always a fan of Rick Moranis if he turns up in anything and I think the fact that he's only really a secondary character in theirs I was like ah I want to see more of him.
01:25:39.76
Brian Penn
There. He Yeah, and I Yeah, good. Yeah yeah.
01:25:51.39
Chris Olson
Um, but it's a great cast. So gony wea is terrific. Um, yeah, it's only Hudson he's in as well. Ah, really just such a strong film.
01:26:01.12
Brian Penn
Even down to the gray boiler suits that they wear. It's all part of a great image builds a great image for the film. The characters the storyline you know and it's a dead simple storyline to follow. You know there's nothing particularly elaborate or challenging about you don't yeah it doesn't need it really. You know it's all about buying into that experience. You know? And yeah I really enjoyed it and you know I suppose that I could say I enjoyed it as much as I did. The first time I saw it because nothing can beat the impact of seeing a film for the very first time but you know nostalgia can bring. Can trigger great memories and also reminds you what of what great filmmaking is about you know and not.
01:26:41.52
Chris Olson
This definitely fell well into the nostalgia category for me because I grew up with a brother who was 4 years older than me and he would show me films that to be honest were probably a bit inappropriate.
01:26:46.38
Brian Penn
And yeah.
01:26:57.80
Brian Penn
I.
01:26:58.26
Chris Olson
And ghostbusters fell into that category ghostbusters I found terrifying when I was watching it as a young young boy like especially the I mean in the first film It was the hellhounds The dogs I always terrify them in the second film. It's the painting but the painting that just creeps me out it still creeps me art tobut.
01:27:01.70
Brian Penn
Yeah, was a young kid. Yeah I guess it would be I. Yeah.
01:27:14.77
Brian Penn
Yeah, yeah.
01:27:18.10
Chris Olson
But the first film. Yeah, those dogs and but there's lotss of bits in this that are pretty ter terrifying to a child. Um, but it also really reminded me of so many great um stories from my childhood because we had the we had the ghostbusters car we actually had it as a toy and.
01:27:21.52
Brian Penn
Then.
01:27:34.26
Brian Penn
Brought out I was Stillnna mention that earlier on actually that much nice. And yeah.
01:27:38.12
Chris Olson
Yeah, so I had that toy and this is great memory I have of us as kids and we had a family cat called Bubbles who she got in through the back of the car through the boo and would and would push the car along like through the and that came back to me ah the stay puffed.
01:27:44.27
Brian Penn
You right? Oh right? Yeah there and oh Mr. But yeah, Mr. Yeah yeah.
01:27:57.33
Chris Olson
Big thing you know that is like a visual memory from my childhood. Yeah, the marshmallow man kind of thing. Yeah that there's so many of bits of this film that was oh yeah I remember that I remember that. So yeah, it felt like a real trip back to yeah childhood.
01:28:03.47
Brian Penn
Mr. Marshalo yeah mush mar yeah yeah and also the yeah the 80 s was a pivotal sign for the film industry in general because I think the they cottoned on so in the 80 s in a big way. They cottoned on it to branding merchandising. Ah, they realized how important a good soundtrack was to ah a film as well. So I think during the as in general there were some great films made because you had it was a pot boiler had all these relatively new creative talents coming into the into the genre into the game and you you just had great. Great films I think the eighty s a bit like pop music. Really. Um, the as was a great sign for films and they may have who knows they may have reached their peak in the as you know these days I I think you you get films. Ah good but very few are great. Some I always return to and it's not just That's what nostalgia does Chris I think it reminds you of what great filmmaking is and you don't necessarily get it these days. It's it's a rarer thing back then you were tripping over great films.
01:29:21.72
Chris Olson
Well hopefully next month we'll see the release of a great film. Ah so if you're listening to this one. It's come out in feb um or early march ghost bussters frozen empire comes out on March Twenty Second so very intrigued see because I yeah I've like I've that's all though.
01:29:23.70
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:29:39.47
Chris Olson
Um, recent ones. Um I don't think there's been a ghost plus films that I haven't enjoyed I have been told that the new film the previous cast members do have more kind of to do in it. They're not just cameos as a bit more so to them in there. Um I love Paul Rudd as well looking for to him.
01:29:53.70
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:29:58.59
Chris Olson
I'm James a cast is in the the new film. So I'm looking forward to seeing what he does in there. But yeah, um, if you haven't seen the original ghostbusters film. It's available on now Tv so if you've got sky cinema or one of those packages or the now Tv movies. It's in that I just.
01:30:00.45
Brian Penn
Yeah.
01:30:15.59
Brian Penn
Yeah, absolutely.
01:30:15.74
Chris Olson
You just will have fun with this film if you go and watch it if you don't have fun with it then well maybe there's something wrong with you. You know? maybe I don't want to diagnose without actually speaking to you personally, but you know wonder.
01:30:20.92
Brian Penn
But yeah, well yeah, know yeah I I don't know, No no, no, no yeah, that's right, but you would wonder I'd get cause you might wonder better hey what? the hell but no, what the hell? well you know, but yeah great. It's the samement you.
01:30:34.12
Chris Olson
What.
01:30:39.45
Brian Penn
You can't really beat something.. That's just so Relatable. It's such a great film to watch and I think with the new films coming out. It's attracting a new audience isn't as well. It will be Curious. You should be curious about where where the genre where the um where the series came From. Where the franchise came from where did it all start where did it all begin and that's what it gives you.
01:31:04.90
Chris Olson
Yeah, and also it just makes a lot more sense as well. When you got these other characters turning up, You know you don't think who are these people that yeah you need to know that um and that's the end of the episode. Wow I mean this is an absolute Bm myth of an episode if you stuck with us through all this. Ah.
01:31:05.67
Brian Penn
And and I.
01:31:16.70
Brian Penn
You well done you? Yeah yeah.
01:31:21.64
Chris Olson
Congrats well done. Um, we don't give out physical badges. We just ask that you make one yourself and yeah, just pop it on your lapel or something you know, um, but do send a pick. We'd love to see them. Um, yeah, thank you very much for joining us Brian. Thank you as always for seeing.
01:31:32.98
Brian Penn
And.
01:31:39.70
Brian Penn
For pleasure. Yeah I I never get bored. Yeah yeah I never get bor. Yeah, no chance getting bored. You know, keep meleasing. Yeah.
01:31:40.44
Chris Olson
But the cinema films as well as everything else thought I throw at you as was a big list this month I don't like thinking that you've got nothing to do I just think if Brian's not yeah if you've got a minute spare then I'll just give you another film to review? Yeah, yeah, absolute. Um, thank you to all the the filmmakers who sent us their films and yeah, if you want to do that then head to the website yoChris Olsondot code uk that is a button a big button that says get reviewed and you click that if you message me saying how do I get my film reviewed I might. Be sarcastic like Bill Murray in ghostbusters. Okay I make it very easy for you to get reviewed I have a button that says get reviewed. Okay, click it? Um, yeah, no, it's fine I understand people are busy. Maybe they just want to ask that's fine. You can ask? Um, thank you for listening please.
01:32:21.21
Brian Penn
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01:32:29.69
Chris Olson
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01:32:40.61
Brian Penn
And just put it put it in the background. You know it can be. It can be movie music. Can't it really? Yeah, yeah yeah.
01:32:48.48
Chris Olson
Ah, Dolcet Tones can just yeah, accompany you on a long drive or a train journey. You know? Um, but yeah, thank you as always ah to everyone for listening. We really do appreciate it. But that is your lot. Thank you and goodbye.
01:33:01.86
Brian Penn
And Bye for now.